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tv   At This Hour With Kate Bolduan  CNN  April 24, 2018 8:00am-9:00am PDT

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hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. minutes from now, president trump faces reports and reporters' questions as he and his french counterpart emmanuel macron hold a joint news conference at the white house. in terms of the president, he's already had a lot to say this morning. a warning for iran and a scolding for a reporter. we'll get to that in a second. also new this morning, it is never good news when your confirmation hearing is postponed. that's what just happened to president trump's pick to run the department of veterans affairs. tomorrow's confirmation hearing for rear admiral ronny jackson postponed indefinitely. lawmakers pulling the plug amid new allegations of misconduct in the workplace and just after the
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white house delivered a full throated endorsement of jackson. let's begin with the state visit and what we just heard from president trump. kaitlan collins is at the white house. president trump right out of the gate, during what was just a photo-op with emmanuel macron, issues a warning to iran. what did he say? >> reporter: it was a stunning moment there in the oval office, president trump was seated next to president macron, they're just now getting down to business, they had a big ceremony with the pomp and circumstance. and, of course, on the agenda for them to discuss is the iran deal. now, president macron, part of his mission while he's here today, is to convince president trump to have the united states stay in that deal, but things do not look good for that prospect, based upon what we just heard from president trump here in the oval office. we're going to be talking about it. we'll see. people know my views on the iran deal. it was a terrible deal. should have never, ever been made. could have made a good deal or
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reasonable deal. the iran deal is a terrible deal. won't be so easy for them to restart. they're not going to be restarting anything. they restarted, they'll have big problems, bigger than they ever had before and you can mark it down. they restart their nuclear program, they will have bigger problems than they have ever had before. >> reporter: so you see there, kate, of course, the president was asked a question by abc news john carl about if the united states pulls out of the iran deal and iran starts the nuclear program and the president issuing a threat, saying there will be a big price to pay. that wasn't the only thing that caught the president's attention as the reporters were asking questions. generally in these settings, they're making electe inine ini statements. but the president was asked if he was considering a pardon for his long time attorney michael cohen, something that has been in debate lately with the president's legal team, saying they believe that michael cohen could end up cooperating with
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the federal officials who were investigating him for his business dealings, some which have to do with president trump this was president trump's answer there, sitting next to another world leader, when asked if he was going to consider a pardon for cohen. >> thank you very much. stupid question. >> reporter: so you see his face there, he was clearly quite irritated by that question. he said it was a stupid question to ask if he's considering pardoning michael cohen. it is unclear if it is a stupid question. it is obvious he would pardon michael cohen or it is so obvious that he would not consider so. he did not clear that up for us there, kate. >> or maybe he just didn't feel like talking about it right then and that is how he reacted. the president very fired up this morning, now you definitely don't want to miss the press conference when they're going to be speaking later this hour. kaitlan, thank you very much. i appreciate it. let's discuss this, tony blanken is here, former deputy secretary
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of state under president obama. we had a lot to talk about before the president spoke just now. i want to get your take on what you heard from the president on the iran deal. mark it down, he says, if they try to restart their -- if they restart their nuclear program, they're going to have bigger problems than they have ever had before. it had the feeling of when the president talked about fire and fury and his message to north korea a while back. >> i got to tell you, kate, my takeaway is the president made the case for sticking with the deal. he said if they restart their program. that says rightly and implies rightly they stopped it. that's exactly what the deal did. why he would want to throw out the deal and give the hard-liners a rational in iran for restarting it and heading us to a crisis either with our allies who may want to stick with the deal or with iran if it does move full force forward makes absolutely no sense. the only thing we succeeded in doing effectively in terms of meeting the threat posed by iran is the nuclear deal. so throwing that out makes no sense and the president acknowledged that it is working by definition. it stopped their program.
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and the last thing we want is for them to restart it. >> the president is facing a very big decision coming up next month, early next month, if he will recertify that iran is keeping with the agreement. he's sitting right there with emmanuel macron in that room and we know emmanuel macron's position, he wants the president to stay in the deal. the president says it is a disaster. it is the worst deal that they could have put together. emmanuel macron, france is part of the deal, they agreed with this deal. it was pretty -- it was also pretty amazing of a moment. >> you know, we ourselves have repeatedly -- our intelligence agencies as well as the international group that is monitoring the deal have repeatedly said that iran is complying with its obligations ur deer t under the deal. this is manifestly a good thing for us. no deal is perfect by definition. you're negotiating, you compromise a little bit.
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it took one big problem off the table far into the future. the french recognize that. macron said something very powerful in the leadup to this meeting. he said, look, if you want to throw out this deal, tell me, what is your plan b? there is no plan b. >> let's play that for -- for our viewers, i wanted to ask you about that. here is emmanuel macron speaking to fox earlier. >> what do you have? i don't see it. what is a what if scenario? or your plan b? i don't have a plan b for nuclear against iran. so we will discuss that, that's why i just want to say on nuclear, let's preserve the framework because it is better than sort of north korean type. >> tony, do you think that emmanuel macron is the guy who can convince the president to stay with the deal? >> two things, kate. one, he's exactly right. there is no plan b. and, you know, heading into this potential negotiation with north
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korea, the last thing the president should want to do is throw out the iran deal and send a message to kim jong-un that the united states is not good to its word. why would the north koreans negotiate anything with us if they think they can't be tested. macron is right on the substance of the iran deal and right to hint at the problems the president may face with the north korean notion egotiation there is one. macron is trying to turn himself into the trump whisperer. we'll see if he has success at that. he has been effective. he had the president come to france, celebrated him with making him the guest of honor at the bastille day parade. as a result, we may not get a parade in washington, the president was so impressed by it. i'm glad that he didn't get an invitation, the president, to the royal wedding. i was afraid he would go and come back and say he wants one of those too. the challenge for macron is to see if he can convince the president that it is worth staying in this deal, europe is going to do more to crack down on iranian misbehavior to deal more effectively with missile
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testing, but the price for that should be sticking with the deal. merkel comes a few days later, she'll have the same message. if that's enough to keep the president on the straight and narrow remains to be seen. >> a big moment later this hour. both presidents will be facing reporters at the joint press conference. let's see what president trump says, after this one meeting and many more conversations they're going to be having during this all important state visit. thank you for coming in. i appreciate it. >> bye, kate. when the president faces reporters, he may face questions about the other major drama unfolding over his handpicked choice to be the next secretary of veterans affairs. the man the president trump nominated to lead that massive agency is dr. ronny jackson. his nomination is now in something of a holding pattern as both democrats and republicans say they want to look into allegations of misconduct that they just became aware of from ronny jackson in the workplace. ryan nobles is on capitol hill. he's been following all of this. it has been moving fast this morning, ryan. what do we know?
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>> reporter: yeah, kate. that's a good way to put it. at this point, ronny jackson's nomination as the secretary of veterans affairs is not dead yet. it is on life support. this after johnny isakson, the chairman of the veteran affairs committee, announced this morning they're going to delay a hearing that was scheduled for wednesday, so that they can look into these allegations that have come up about his past. not only his past in terms of military service his behavior in the workplace, some other pretty serious accusations that have come out in press reports against ronny jackson. listen to what senator isakson had to say about this process this morning. >> we're going to have a hearing at some time in the future. >> why not? >> we need time to get more information. >> are you concerned that the white house is not doing adequate job of vetting this nominee? >> i'm concerned the press is making up far too many stories that aren't true before we have a chance to have a meeting. mr. jackson and myself and senator tester and everybody in congress needs to take a deep breath, give the man a chance to be heard, give us a chance to
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ask the questions and as chairman i'm going to see to it that information comes to my attention that ought to be vetted, it is vetted in the appropriate way. >> so what senator isakson wants to do is look into these allegations and he actually told us pretty forcefully he believes many of these reports in the press are simply not true and went on to say that he does not want ronny jackson to withdraw his nomination, he wants him to go through this process. and to that end, both senator isakson and senator tester sent a letter to the white house, they're asking for all documentation and correspondence related to ronny jackson's service in the military, not only as a military doctor, but also any information that the white house uncovered during their vetting process of ronny jackson. that might be part of the problem for the white house because there are many on capitol hill that are concerned that he just was not vetted carefully enough. this was someone who the president grew to like quite a bit during his annual physical. he was very impressed by his
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performance in the white house press room when he talked about the president's overall health and the president took a shine to him and decided he wanted him to become the next secretary of veterans affairs. and the white house still believes in ronny jackson, put out a statement in support of him this morning, but right now he still faces a pretty rocky confirmation process if he hopes to become the next secretary of veterans affairs. >> and just very simply, more questions than answers for the second largest bureaucracy that he would be heading up. that is a huge job that he would be taking on and right for senators to be asking the questions now. can't do anything about it after the fact. also this, when we're talking about the president's inner circle, ryan, there is the epa administrator scott pruitt, he's also facing continued trouble over ethics violations. the white house stood by him, really strongly, until now though. it seems things are changing. what are you hearing? >> reporter: from the very beginning of this -- what has become an avalanche of negative
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stories about scott pruitt and his past, and his interactions as epa administrator, the white house is always stuck by him. the president in particular has always stuck by him. yesterday, sarah sanders, the white house press secretary, was asked about this latest round of allegations about his past. and she said that the white house now needs to look into them and then decide whether or not it is something that they need to act upon. she did follow that up by saying that the president believes that scott pruitt is doing a very good job as the administrator of the epa. and there is also many people that believe that the president just has a personal affection for scott pruitt. he likes him, he likes he is, you know, carrying out his agenda in that job as epa administrator. so even though it does look as though he is in some trouble, the white house maybe not fully embracing him as they once did, at this point still in that job and there are no signs he's going anywhere. >> all right, with all of this, as we have to say, stand by to stand by. still many more minutes of this
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show to have it all changed. thanks, ryan. for more on this, let me bring in chris cillizza, editor at large. what is going on here with ronny jackson? >> nothing good from the white house's perspective, kate. i think and ryan mentioned this, donald trump is someone who very much embraces his gut instincts, his seat of the pants decision-making. he likes ronny jackson. they have a personal relationship. i think he liked how ronny jackson did in that press conference, we are talked about donald trump's health, said if he got on a little bit better diet, he might live until he's 200. that's all music to donald trump's ears. and so he picked him. i don't think ronny jackson was vetted. remember, being the white house physician, president obama named him the white house physician in 2013, that's different than heading the va, second largest bureaucracy in the government. there are already concerns among democrats, yes, but also republicans, about ronny jackson's sort of ability for
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the job based on his past. and now i think -- you don't delay a confirmation hearing for nothing. >> johnny isakson seems to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. it is all -- it sounds like this is really just coming at the senators, they're really just -- that also leads me to wonder, was -- did the white house have no inkling about it or they didn't -- they didn't care about it? the allegations against him, which it is not -- it has not become clear exactly what all the allegations are. >> that's a very good question. i'll remind you that we had incidents, johnny mcintee, rob porter, we have had situations where people working in close proximity to the president of the united states seemed to have issues in their background that you would think would have disqualified them on the front end and didn't.
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now, that doesn't directly answer your question, kate, which is how much did they know if anything. but i wouldn't say, well, just because he's the white house physician, i wouldn't say that means the white house was aware necessarily of some of these allegations because if past is prologue, they might not have been. >> we'll see. thanks, chris. great to see you. >> thank you, kate. coming up, we'll hear live from president trump answering reporters questions in a news conference with the french president. that comes up this hour, moments after -- you heard that stark warning that he issued to iran over the nuclear deal. what more will the president say? plus, stunning video from that deadly van attack in toronto that we're getting in. the suspect in the standoff with -- in a standoff with police and caught on camera. it is what the officer does not do that is making headlines today. stay with us. so we swapped your car out for the all-new chevy traverse. yes. do you think it's going to surprise your daughter? absolutely. wait, is mom here yet? where's mom?
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all right, breaking news now, we're getting new details
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about the allegations we were just discussing that led to delaying the confirmation hearing of donald trump's nominee to be the next secretary of veterans affairs. dr. ronny jackson. cnn politics senior writer juana summers spoke with two white house medical staffers. is that right? >> i've spoken with two former white house medical unit staffers and right now the members of the senate veterans affairs are reviewing allegations from these whistle blowers that under ronny jackson it was a toxic work environment. they told the committee, they tell me about excessive drinking by ronny jackson, the president's nominee to be the next leader of the department of veterans affairs. both sources tell me they observed this behavior while working at the white house unit. they're no longer there. my colleagues on capitol hill are also hearing from individuals with different allegations regarding the handling of prescriptions by the
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white house medical unit as well as an additional workplace survey that was done because of issues in the white house medical unit under jackson's leadership. now, these accusations have already rolled the plans for jackson's confirmation hearing. he was supposed to be on capitol hill on wednesday, that's been delayed according to leader of the committee. however, it is really important to note that the committee is still in the process of figuring out whether or not there is truth to the allegations. they have yet to substantiate them. there is little to no documentation so far. adding to new questions about a nominee to lead this agency that was already facing questions from a number of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle about whether he had the right management experience to lead this significantly large agency. >> and juana, real quick, the medical unit staffers that you spoke with, are they in communication with the committee? >> yes, they told me that two of them have told me that they have spoken with the committee. i spoke with them by phone over the last few days and they're expressing that there is concern over a toxic workplace under jackson as well as excessive
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drinking. >> juana, thank you very much. some details flushing out of what johnny isakson and john tester say they have questions about right now and why we're seeing the delay in confirmation hearing. juana, thank you very much. joining me now, ed markey of massachusetts, he sits on the environmental committee and foreign relations committee. senator, we're just getting this in from juana summers, some of the details -- some of the details about ronny jackson, the allegations of misconduct now about ronny jackson and the details of what this is all about. what is your reaction to this? >> my reaction is that the president clearly named him as the nominee to run the va almost on a personal impulse. he likes him. he thinks he can run the entire va. but clearly there was no comprehensive vetting of him for this job. not only in terms of his competence as a manager of an institution that has
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responsibility to provide benefits, medical benefits to the families of every veteran in our country, but also his own personal temperament and behavior. so now, it comes to congress to actually have to do the vetting that ordinarily is done by an administration, and clearly enough information has already surfaced that is calling for a time-out while more information on a comprehensive basis can be gathered about him in his suitability for this critically important job to protect all american families. >> do you hear enough though that you think he is -- you do not think he's fit to be va secretary? >> again, i think that the committee is taking the right posture on this issue. it is saying, let's stop, let's learn more, let's listen to people, let's hear from the whistle-blowers. let's do a more detailed analysis of his background both professionally and personally and then we can make a decision.
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but i think that there are troubling signs that have already emerged. and i think on a bipartisan basis democrats and republicans are saying let's stop, let's learn more, this is too critical an institution, that is already in need of serious help in order to make sure that the veterans of our country received the services they deserve. >> and that pause is happening as we speak on a bipartisan basis. let's see how that plays out. i want to ask you what we also just heard earlier from president trump. he's meeting with the french president right now. the iran deal was always going to be a very big topic of conversation between the two leaders. but president trump issued a warning to iran during their photo-op when they were having their first -- having -- sitting down for their first sit-down meeting. listen to this. >> we're going to be talking about it. we'll see. people know my views on the iran deal. it was a terrible deal. should have never, ever been
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made. we could have made a good deal or reasonable deal, the iran deal is a terrible deal. >> iranians say they will restart their program. >> it won't be so easy for them to restart. they won't be restarting anything. they restart it, they'll have big problems, bigger than they have ever had before. and you can mark it down. they restart the nuclear program, they will have bigger problems than they have ever had before. >> senator what is your reaction to that? >> well, my reaction is that the iran nuclear deal is working. it has rolled back the iranian nuclear program. it is under full scope monitoring by the international atomic energy agency, and that agency says that iran is in full compliance with the agreement. and if the president has problems with other aspects of iran conduct, ballistic missiles, human rights,
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adventurerism in other countries in the middle east, he already has authority to sanction iran or russia or anyone which is partnering with iran or he can come to contact and ask for additional legal authority to do that. but it is hard to understand a strategy that would burn down the house in order to remodel the kitchen. if he feels there are some problems with iran, bring those problems to us, and we will try to work with him on a bipartisan basis to deal with those issues. but the deal itself is working, it is monitored, it has rolled back the iranian program. >> emmanuel macron has said, as he was heading into all of this, he wants to convince donald trump to stay in the deal. do you think that the french president can do that? >> well, my hope is that macron and later on this week merkel, along with other countries persuade donald trump. it makes sense to stay in
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agreement that has already been negotiated and is being monitored very closely by the international atomic energy agency. i think if we look at a president that pulls out of the paris climate accord, pulls out of an iranian agreement and seeks to cut deals, for example, with north korea, on their nuclear program, there won't be any credibility that the united states stands by the deals which it has already made. if the president wants to begin a process to deal with other problems, then let's all work on that. but these central issues that got resolved on an international basis are right now working. and he is destroying america's credibility to be the leader and not the laggard on international policy if he continues to pursue this course. that's why i'm hopeful that macron and merkel will be able to persuade him to stay inside of this agreement. >> a huge task ahead of them. let's see what happens just today, get through today. i want to ask you real quickly about yesterday. a funny thing happened in committee.
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kind gesture which seems such a rarity these days, republican senator johnny isakson, he couldn't be at the vote for the secretary of state nominee mike pompeo because he was a funeral of his very best friend. the vote was tied. the committee would need to wait until 11:00 p.m. or midnight to get isakson to fly back and then cast his vote in support of mike pompeo. with the outcome certain, but just very much delayed, democratic senator chris coons offered to vote yes. what did you think of that gesture in committee? >> that's typical of chris. it was a courtesy gesture to johnny isakson and to the committee rather than reconvening last night at 11:15, which was the other alternative. instead there was an ability -- on a bipartisan basis, in the foreign relations committee to find a resolution of it that was respectful, especially of johnny
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isakson and his need to deliver the eulogy for his best friend at his funeral. >> it seems like such a rarity that these kind gestures happen, maybe at least in public. that bob corker the chair of the committee, he was visibly moved afterward. just for viewers if they haven't had a chance to see it, i want to play for you bob corker after the committee meeting and chris coons explaining his reasoning why he did it for johnny isakson. >> i particularly want to thank the senator for displaying the statesmanship that i've been accustomed to seeing in the senate. senators at the right time can do outstanding things. >> when my father died, a republican senator who i did not know well came up to me on the floor and said if you need to miss the next vote, i'll pair with you, i'll vote, i'll either
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leave or vote the way you would have voted so it doesn't change the outcome. that meant a great deal to me. so every now and then we should find our way toward each other in ways like this. >> really was an amazing gesture. what do you think moved senator corker so much, though? >> i think it was probably the combination of the fact that senator isakson was delivering a eulogy at a funeral, and the very rare moment in the trump era where people were trying to show personal courtesy to one another. and by the way, it happens on a daily basis in the senate, where on a personal level, people are still friends. but the overarching environment within which we work is one of bitter acrimonious partisanship. and so i think that's why this
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was a moment that will stand out, but it is not unfortunately from my perspective as we're now talking about ronny jackson, talking about scott pruitt, talking about pulling out of the iran deal, likely to affect the larger atmosphere within which we are continuing to work in the trump era. >> i sure would like to see those daily personal connections play out more publicly more often. it is good to note it when it happens. >> it was a beautiful moment, we hope that it is going to be replicated, but it is only with our fingers crossed that we -- that we express that hope because the atmosphere in general just doesn't lend itself to that. >> well, hope springs eternal. keep the fingers and toes crossed, thank you. any moment now, we'll hear from president trump, live from the white house in a giajoint n conference with the french president. after everything the president already said this morning, can only imagine what is going to come next. stay with us.
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it turned out to be a long meeting and could have gone on for another two hours. we discussed a lot of things, a lot of problems in the world, a lot of problems that we think can be solved. we have come a long way just the two of us, i think, as understanding we talked about iran, we talked about syria, we talked about a lot of subjects that really are big, big hard situations. and we think we have solutions to a number of them. so we're going to continue that
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now and then emmanuel and myself will meet again, i think, after this meeting. but we wanted to get the opinion of some of the experts in the room. we have great experts on both sides. so we wanted to get the opinion of some of the experts. very good numbers are coming out on our businesses. you're seeing the numbers that are getting released on our companies and our businesses, very strong. the economy is -- has been really incredible. unemployment now is at the lowest point ever in history in many, many states. the states were enumerated last night, late last night the numbers came out and we hit the lowest unemployment numbers in many decades in some cases and in some cases the lowest numbers, period. it was just reiterated that unemployment for african-american families has been the best in history.
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for hispanic families, the best in history. for women, the best in 18 years and close to going much higher than that. it is something very special. we're very happy about that. the president and i working on trade, the trade with france is complicated because we have the european union. i would rather deal just with france. the union is very tough for us. they have trade barriers that are unacceptable. our farmers can't send their product into the european union easily as they should and we accept their product. so we have to make a change. and they understand that. and we're negotiating wilbur and steve and everybody, we're negotiating with the european union. but it has been very unfair for a long time. we had a trade deficit with the european union of $151 billion last year. that's unacceptable. this has been going on for many years and that's unacceptable. the treasury secretary steve mnuchin will be going to china in a few days to negotiate on
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trade. china is very serious. we're very serious. we have no choice but to be very serious. you know we have put on very substantial tariffs. and that will continue unless we make a trade deal. i think we're -- we have got a very good chance of making a deal. as you know, they just stated president xi, terrific guy and friend of mine, but he's representing china and i'm representing the united states. president xi made a speech four days ago where he said china will be opened up. it is not opened up now. they trade with us, we can't trade with them. they did $504 billion last year. we did $120 billion. that's a tremendous imbalance, we can't have that. so we're going to have a delegation at their request go to china. that will be good. european union, we are going back to that, we are negotiating with the european union.
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they had their representatives come here. and i think we're negotiating very, very seriously. nafta, as you know, is moving along. they have an election coming up very soon. and it will be interesting to see what happens with that election. but we're doing very nicely with nafta. i could make a deal quickly but i'm not sure that's in the best interest of the united states. we'll see what happens. but we're doing very well. and south korea, on our trade deal, we're doing very well. and as far as north korea is concerned, we are going to be having a meeting with kim jong-un and that will be -- that will be very soon. we have been told directly that they would like to have the meeting as soon as possible. and we think that's a great thing for the world, that's a great thing for north korea, and south korea, and japan, and france, and everybody. so we're having very, very good
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discussions. kim jong-un was -- he really has been very open and i think very honorable from everything we're seeing. now, a lot of promises have been made by north korea over the years. but they have never been in this position. we have been very, very tough on maximum pressure. we have been very tough on, as you know, trade. we have been very tough at the border. sanctions have been the toughest we have ever imposed on any country. and we think it will be a great thing for north korea, great thing for the world. we'll see where that all goes. maybe it will be wonderful and maybe it won't. if it is not going to be fair, and reasonable, and good, i will unlike past administrations i will leave the table. but i think we have a chance of doing something very special with respect to north korea, good for them, good for us, good for everybody. and with that, thank you all very much. mr. president, would you like to
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say something? >> thank you, mr. president, for his words. i want together again before the press conference just to say that we had very good discussion on syria, on iran, the overall region and some other very important topics regarding our security. and i think we -- we have to work together because we have always worked together on issues and it is very important to preserve the stability of this region. and i think what we want to -- what we want to do and for the rest of our people is precisely to preserve stability, sovereign states without -- as for the trade issue, you presented your perception of the situation and you were fair to remind everybody that the bilateral relationship is balanced between france and the u.s., and i think it is very important to bear in
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mind that between -- regarding so important issues it is important to make a trade war. we have to deal with common global challenges regarding our trade. one of the global challenges is definitely overcapacity and we have to fix the situation. i think we have now to work fairly on that. we need several discussions and several discussions as you mentioned. but i think our willingness is precisely to preserve them. this framework and to work very closely together in the middle and to deal with this current destabilization of trade situation. as for the other aspects, we discuss as well about the paris agreement, and our common challenges regarding climate. i have to say that our business people, our scientists work
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closely together and we want to -- this corporation. we know everything about the treaties and the international agreements, but i think beyond that we have a lot in common to work on, and we will follow this discussion in the coming weeks and months and now we will have an opportunity to go into details on a lot of the issues. thank you very much again mr. president for the very direct and fruitful discussion we have, you and me, and to discuss with your vice president and your experts on this issue. >> we have had a great relationship. just about everything. and too bad it is not just us doing the negotiating for the rest of the world, but we have had a great relationship and our trade situation with france by itself has been very good. the trade product and the trade deals that we do with france, unfortunately european union
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represents to a large extent france and we had pretty unfair situation with the european union. a fair one with france. that will continue. that will always continue. we will always be very close to really our oldest ally when you think of it. france is our oldest ally and we will -- we are going out of our way to do that. i think we really had some substantive talks on iran. maybe more than anybody else. and we're looking forward to doing something, but it has to be done and it has to be done strongly and very much have been butchers, can't allow that to happen. so we understand each other. and we'll see how that comes out. and we could have at least an agreement among ourselves fairly quickly. i think we're fairly close to understanding each other. and i think our meeting -- our one on one went very, very well. i hope you feel the same way. >> definitely.
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>> thank you very much. thank you. thank you, everybody. >> let's go. make your way out. let's go. we're finished here. make your way out. let's go. >> you'll find out. >> thank you. let's go. everybody out. >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> let's go please. let's go. >> do i wonder what vice president mike pence was whispering to president trump right there. president trump and french president emmanuel macron sitting down for their second meeting of the day, this time with an expanded group, including the vice president and some cabinet secretaries. let me bring in right now cnn white house reporter kaitlan
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collins, cnn senior reporter nia malika henderson and jim sciutto. jim, i'm pretty sure you probably picked up on this one, pretty sure you probably picked up on this one as well, when donald trump was talking about north korea, he said that president kim -- north korea's dictator kim jong-un acted -- has been very open and very honorable in how they have been dealing with, i guess, planning out their meeting to come. what do you make of that? >> it is quite a strong adjective to use for a dictator of a nation that imprisons its people, right? what does he base that on? what concessions or assurances rather has the u.s. been given behind the scenes particularly when mike pompeo, the cia direct, soon to be if confirmed secretary of state, went to meet with him. seems to be signaling that the north korean leader was signaling that there would be -- that this would be a fruitful
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discussion. and we don't know what that is. there are a lot of questions as you know, kate, about what for instance kim actually means when he talks about denuclearization. does that mean giving up his nuclear weapons when in fact that is something that from their perspective they depend on for their very survival. so very strong words to use, perhaps he was given a hopeful indication via mike pompeo when he met with him face to face. it is remarkable thing. also, frankly, a remarkable turn from the language we heard just a few weeks, a few months ago, fire and fury, little kim, right, my button is bigger than your button. what led to that change, is there substance behind that change, that's something we know when we see what the deliverables are from this summit. >> also makes you wonder what the families of the three americans who are still being held in north korea are thinking when they say president trump has been very open and very honorable in -- to this point. nia, your take so far, they haven't even had their press
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conference yet, that's supposed to be coming, supposed to be behind schedule at this moment, likely. but supposed to be coming up this hour still and the president and emmanuel macron had a lot to say already today. >> they have. and a very warm display of this friendship, right? you hear the president over and over talking about how great this relationship is, they were at the white house, initially, and kind of sharing hugs and handshakes and here they are at this very meeting. we'll see what comes out of this press conference. so far, i mean, you see two men who are very different, right? president trump is 71. and emmanuel macron is 40. but they do seem to have this bond and symbolically that's very important. we don't know substantively what that is going to mean. you heard president macron there saying essentially this is the beginning of something, we'll see what happens in the months and weeks on any number of issues, the paris climate deal for instance, the deal -- the iran nuclear deal, can macron
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use his charm to convince this president to stay in the deal? is there a better deal in the offing? we'll see. the president is, for instance, said before that maybe the united states would get back into the paris agreement in terms of climate. is that something that is going to happen. they use very different language, right. you have macron talking about a global challenge, he's very much seeking common ground, he's very much a globalist. and president trump speaking more like a nationalist, speaking more like a dealmaker for the united states, who wants the best deal for this country and isn't necessarily concerned with this global community that macron speaks of. >> kaitlan, really quick, i want to get your take. when i heard from the president, he also said that between emmanuel macron and him, they already had substantive talk on iran. i think he was saying also that they're fairly close to an agreement among themselves. i think he was still talking about the iran -- the iran nuclear deal here, this coming after you and i already
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discussed that a warning that the president issued to iran from the podium. >> yeah, quite a change in tone there, kate, from what we saw in the oval office just a few minutes ago, earlier this hour when you and i were first talking. the president was angry while speaking about the iran deal, almost borderline threatening saying if the united states did pull out of the iran deal and did restart their nuclear program, essentially saying what the consequences of that would be.made some progress on their talks about iran so far, he said. he said there at the end that he then thinks, quote, they may have an agreement on iran soon. he was talking about iran there. that's pretty good because we know his mission while macron was here was to keep the united states staying in the iran deal. those prospects seemed very dim
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in the last hour, but there the president seemed very open to that suggestion. they said they wanted a better deal. just yesterday sarah sanders was saying she believes the president is the best negotiator to have at a table for something like that. but the question is where they're going to end up where they leave. now they're at the business part, kate. >> i feel like i just need to end this by saying, but wait, there's more. we're looking inside the white house where the president and president macron will be holding a joint press conference any minute now. stay tuned. we'll be back with more after this. have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast, for fast pain relief. tylenol®
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we are following breaking news. you're looking at live pictures from the east room of the white house where donald trump and french president emmanuel macron will be taking the joint microphones at the white house. facing cameras now for the third time this morning. let's see what happens when they do. should happen any minute. still with me, kaitlyn collins, jim sciutto. jim, to you, when the president was talking about the iran deal and his discussions with emmanuel macron and he said something to the effect of, they're fairly close to an agreement, at least among ourselves, when it comes tight ran deal. what could that mean? >> reporter: i was raegd over his words again and again. agreement among ourselves, presumably he was talking about france and the u.s., and one possibility macron was going to try to convince the president of is adding a second agreement, in effect, that would handle iran's
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missile tests, right, in post-sanctions for its missile tests, et cetera. also extend the life of the original iran deal. it has some sunset provisions in there. was the president referring to kind of a partner agreement that would address some of the president's concerns with the original iran deal? that's a possibility. how you do that just between the u.s. and france, if that's what he's referring to, without iran's agreement, i don't know. are they talking about imposing additional penalties on iran for its missile tests, et cetera? not clear. but that's a possibility. and let's hope he adds some clarity in the press conference. >> that's exactly what i was about to say, jim. there's now more questions to ask the president when he begins this joint news conference. what's your first question? you know what, what does he mean in terms of this iran deal? is this something that's actually going to happen? i think more substance on any of
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this is going to help on iran, paris, syria, just more details. >> more details on multiple fronts today. great to see allf of you. we're all standing by at the white house. president trump and french president emmanuel macron expected to take questions any moment now. we're going to sneak in a quick break. we'll be right back. so we swapped your car out for the all-new chevy traverse. yes. do you think it's going to surprise your daughter? absolutely. wait, is mom here yet? where's mom? she's in this car. what the heck? whoa.
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