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we'll use it the best waycan. sarah sanders to come on and talk about the first 500goos start with this horrible moment we're in. toxic. the crediblility problemsween the and media. p.m. ern.me time, tonight, t: congratlaces on the new show. >>. erin burnett " starts now. >> two top republins breaking with the pnt tonight. pouring cold water on trump's conspiracy th will the rest of the gop stand up? and trump keeping praise on his cabinet. over the top compliments to every single o e for one. who was it? and breaking news. the husband of kate spade speaking out tonight. wh say iing aboue final months before she took her life. let's go "outfront."
and good ooempk. evening. better late than never. two top republicans today getting up the nerve to debunk trump's thry now initially, only republicanss to stand up. they met with top fbi ab presidd evhing right and now paul ryan, who saw that same classified material, was at the briefing is king his silence togowdy is right. >> do you agree with him? >> normally, i don't like to comment on classified briefle i think his initial assessmentu. >> and the speaker of the hois the republican chairman of the burr, who by the way, isinvesti
and waieied eting says i think gowdy's description of the process was correct. you've got burr joi gowdy and mcconnell, all s there wa there. nothing to support what the president says. that is four of the top republicans in the united states who saw the classified info and are suggesting the president's accusations about ta spy have n basis in any of the single facts they've seen. and yet, as recently as last night, the president kept poundo be b a totally mad up accusation. spy gate, full force, i mainstream media interested yet? who would be who believe belief? it's a great question,ecause no
trey gow dpr wrkgowdy. while burr and ryan speaking out is bter late than never, they had they have allowed the president to pedal this theory for weeks without calling it >> all youave to do is look at the basics and you'll see. it looks like a very serious event. hope it's not true, but it looks like it is. h do you like the fact? they had people infiltrating our campaign. can you imagine? can you imagine?e's pedalling i whlieve it. poisoning the system. e president is also tweeted or said said some variation of the word spy at least 17 times since april. making wild claimsquote, he was only there to spy for political reasons and to help crook ed hillary win. why now are ryan and burr drawing a line today of all
days? could it be in part because they have their eyes on theexit? said running for re-election and ryan is in his final months in congress. the reality is that right now in the gop, trump's toughest critics are not running for re-electi re-e jeff flake say his concerns about trump have made him unelect unelectable. corker saying he's like a tod todayerer. manu is live on capitol hill, and whe ryannd burr finally speaking out now because as we point out, gowdy and mcconnell obviously camous days ago. >> those were the only ones in th republican side aisle in con reviewed this classified intelligence and ryan in particular is very close to gowdy. someone ryan clearly may have been taken aback by all the backlash that gowd yy got aftere
biid what it was supposed to do based on the classified briefings. but after he made those rurk remark, rudy giuliani, others on the right, came out to repudiate gowdy. paul ryan did this, to say he was right, the sameefing -- crediblen thi very issue. he's been the person that the has gone into these briefings where nunes who has taken a much different approach. really, nunes the o republican and member of congress who has seen this classified spey eied intelligeny gate claims. he said he would not comment the me but has previously talked to fox news and he's criticized the media coverage and demanded more records, but he's not going to
where gowdy, chairman burr, paul ryan andven mitch mcconnell have gone in the several days here. >> getting off of these indito s "outfront" now, ngressman, great to have you back. i know you have supported the president on this concept. do you accept what your leadership is now saying? top republicans who were in the briefings have seen the classified intelligence. in fact, every one of them except for nunes, who as you heard today, didn't want to comment. do you accept what their all saying? which is they don't see anything there? >> well, a couple of things. one is the documents were not actually given to them to review. so they have, they went to this meet, but did not review the documents. they didn't come back to congress. >> you think they were lied to by thebi? >> no, i'm saying there are documents and the speaker mentioned it this morning that there are documents that they haven't been able to review yet. so that's part of this.
additionally, we could have a difference of opinion with colleagues regardless of whether they're on my side of the aisle, doesn't matter to me. i believe that if for whatever reason, fbi, doj, the intel rying toet involved with b to the presidential that they should sit down with that major party presidential candidate and let them know. i'm not aware of any evidence that this coelligence effort was launched. targeting the president of the united states. i'm sorry, the nominee for president of the united states. >> he was told in at 2016 the russians were going to attempt to infiltrate his campaign. so they did have such a conversation in august of 2016. >> up front as the decision was be to send an to infill --
essentially, to infiltsurveil t point in time, i believe as a matter of practice, that it would be reallynt going forward forward. can wa can't recreate history, but sit down with the major party candidate and let them know as it's happening before you start sending individuals to start surveilling the campaign. >> what i'm confuseded about and just right now politico has come out with a story. they just spoke with tom rooney. he's been involved in the investigation. he said to them, quote, what is the point of saying there was a spy in the campaign when there was none? you know what i'm say iing, it' like let's create this thing to tweet about knowing the it's not true. maybe it's just to create more chaos, but it doesn't really help the case. does he have a point? the president just says okay, i can throw a fire bomb out there, congressman, and i can say it to people who come to my rallies
and who gives a if it's true, right? that's what this is is looking a whole lot like. >> yeah, i think the president believes that his campaign w spied on. >> but what basis does ef to believe that? >> because -- >> there's not a single fact to report it. nunes said there's not a single fact they have seen to support it. so it sounds like he's it upf thin air. >> no, i mean you have at least one person who was sent to the campaign who was meeting with members of the trump campaign. that you know, at the beginning of this counterintelligence effort before they sat down with donald trump of the nominee to let him know that they were, whether you want to call that someone was there surveilling, infiltrating, spying, informing, there's a lot of different words getting thrown around. the fact is there was a person sent there by the government. at least one person>> there's a difference, quong man, between sending someone. i agri with you.
some of these words without a difference, but sending someone in to spy on, to help hillary clinton, which is what the presidspecifically alleged is extremely different than someone saying hey, guess what, we think russians are trying to get into campaign. why don't you just go find out what's going on there. those are two extremely different things. >> as far as motive and individuals making the decision, that's one of the reasons w i believe it's important before concluding that the justice department, intel community, did nothing wrong. it would be importairst to re the that they provided when t went to that meeting. and i also, i'm one of these people throughout this entire process, i'm in favor of more information being provided, not less. i would like to see as much of that fisa application be declassified as possible and let the american public read it and decide for themselves. that you know, there have been documents that have been provide
ed to the american public. there's been some transcripts that have been provided. the inspector general's r is in th next few days. so i think the information coming out to the american public is most important sothey for it, mine. >> speaking abclinton, but we're talking about accusation made by the president of the united states that a spy was planted in his campaign with the expressed by theess purpose of and we all know this. you have the people who have been briefed, ryan, burr, mcconnell, gowdy, saying nothing has supported that. what asking you is at what point if someone just keeps say something and throwing out bombs is it not worth running down everything they're saying just it. it what's the point of saying there was a spy when there was none? it's like let's create this thing the tweet a knowing the it's not true. that is a republican saying this about the republican president
of the united states. >> yeah, and again, i do believe that the president when he says that campaign was being spied on, his definition, his use of the word and many other people who are calling it spying, t it's being consistent, not misleading. that's note's saying. on he's saying planted by the fbi to help hillary clinton. he has been very specific about it. >> so as far as the second part with regards to helping hillary clinton, there is clear asay evidence. peter had a role in this process, as to what we're talk ing about now with regards to the end of the e-mail probe with regards to the beginning of the trump probe regards to the fisa application. peter struck played a hugely important role. now he hasn't even come to congress. >> the clinton e-mail investigation. >> he was also invved in the russia investiga. the person who teed had a role to play in the overlap. he was definitely involved. he was a deputy head of counter.
through that role, as the deputy head of counterintelligence, when the fbi is launching a campaign -- >> am i just confuse d about, you're trying to make a days and i get it. you're supporting trump a the other people in your owny i there there. i'm wondering what it will take for you to say he's full of it. >> first off, it's important to get all the documents that the people who are making conclusions have not read yet. so in order to be ablesay this is what the document say, you have to be able to read the documents first. but again, the deputy head of counterintelligence -- >> and you have not been briefed or seen any of them. >> no one. >> you're basing everything upon what? no one has seen those documents. >> burr, mcconnell, ryan, gowdy have been briefed by the fbi in a classified setting about that. >> well, and again, i would point you to part of speaker ryan's comments this morning where he said there are still
documents we need to review. he was referring to the documents that when they went to the meeting, they were not allowed to review. now, those documents did not come back to congress with them. i'm not aware of those documents being here in congress. but you know, second part of what you're asking me with regards to motive and intent and the personal involved in a decision, to we have to understand that fbi, the highesr struck in the position he's in, the role he's playing, he clearly was, it's in his text messages, he was anti trump. he was pro hillary. >> also there's no there there. >> that's not true.>> you look is. >> i'm not going to repeat the expletives of f trump. >> oh, he had a personal political point of view, but made it clear he didn't think there was a ur,
yes, he had a political point of view. as does everybody. >> right. so i think though to answer your question as to when president trump is makinwith regards to te counterintelligence department the fbi and their motives ce that aware of peter struck involved, being the numbertwo, in this process and knowing his biases. >> so he knows peter struck personally, personally wasn't going to vote for him. he could assume that, but it's a big step from that to say the fbi is corrupt to spy on my campaign the preside it, cr hillary. i think we can acknowledge that's a different thing. it's a whole new ball game. >> but to say that there's no evidence. >> well there isn't as of yet according to gowdy, ryan, m, burr. as of yet, they have seen no evidence to support it and clearly, they believe it is important to say that to the american people. >> and i would encourage my colleagues before concluding as
to what these documents say to read the documents first. by the way, i'd like to read them and whatever is releasable, i'd fmerican public to read them and for all of us to be able to do more to form our o independent judgments rather thantaking everybody else's word for it. those developments have not be read by the people who are saying this is the conclusion being made based off of those documents. just saying to read them first. >> i apprecir time. thank you. >> thank you. next, the president heaps praise on his cabinet, except for one person. us,stmy daniels filing a new laut saying michael cohen colluded with her former lawyer to benefit trump. plus, rudy giuliani. went out of the country, so i guess he thought people might not be rolling tape, but they were. >> i don't even think there's a slight suspicious it's true when you -- excuse me, look at stormy daniels.
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incredible. secretary nielsen. what do i say about you? you are doing great. general john kelly is here some ace. general? good general. great job. administrator pruitt. epa is doing really, really wel and you know somebody has to say that about you a little bit. a friend of min for a long time, administrate or linda mcmahan, e of the real stars. >> just didn't stop. everybody was gushed over except one person. >> attorney general jeff sessnk you, jeff. thank you very much. >> all right. sorry. "outfront" now, since when did the words thank you just s much? white house correspondent, april ryan, former special assistant to george w. bush and former counselor to bill clinton. scott sh, ben carson is inspirational, elaine chow is
incredible. kearsen nielsen, whom trump has berated to the point she reportedly quit. she's great. jeff sessions, thank you. all we got. >> yeah, nielsen and pruitt, i thought those were the two most interesting things today given the history he's had with her, but on jeffns, clearly the president is mad cls mad about the russia investigation and jeff session ss the person who closely associated with that building. he's made no secret of his displeasure with session' job. the thing is is, jeff session' is doing a good job for the president. just puts his head down and goes to work every day. i think attorney general sessions has a thick hide and i think he sleeps easy at night because a, he believes he did the right thing on the recusal and b, when he recused, he gave the president a gift. which is that. when this investigation is over, if they find there's no
usion and jeff sessions was not part of the investigation because he recused himself, he's taking a key argument off the board. can you imagine if sessions was still running this thing and they found no collusion? the democrats would be all over the president. >> so, paul, look, to scott's point, we know trump missdespic sessio russia. ump said the russian hoax continues all because jeff sessions didn't tell me he was going to recuse himself. so many lives ruined and sessions knew better than most that there was no collusion. so i guess if you look att measure, paul, the president held back today by thanking jeff sessions. >> yeah, he kind of wimped out e, actually. >> you know, easy there. whatever, all over somebody on a tweet but when you're looking them in the eye, i guess you duodugo to thank you? >> i guess so.
we find ourselves in a remarkable historic moment though where the president of the united states has a warmer relationship with putin than he does with his o attorney general. he says tely, last few weeks, nicer things about kim jong-un than he does about jeff sessions. that's a, that's a really remarkable situation that we find ourselves in. >> april, here's the thing though. the president, obviously you have theuxtaposition of jeff sessionsith everybod but he was saying is to trumpian. heaping praise on people. it's easy for him to do. it's a crutch. here he is doing it on episodes of celebrity apprentice. >> so governor, you have a hell of a lot of guts, i have to tell you a that. i have friends where things have happened to them, they crawl into a corner, they die. you're out there punching. hi, kim. you look great. i love your fragrance. really special. i'm going to get some.
>> and khloe. >> she's a terrific person just like you. cindy, i love your hairdo. you're a big believer in hair like i am, right? >> yes. >>. >> that was the disingenuous. >> april. trump only said 11 words about jeff sessions. five of which were attorney general jeff sessions and jeff. so what's the game at this point because jeff sessions obviously has refused to resign. >> well, there is no game. this president is sincere and strategic. he heaped all the praise on everyone around that table to include thed pruitt. he told the transportation secretary, he produces quietly. he praised on ben carson. but when it came to jeff sessions, that was a jab. that polite thank you was a jab because he didn't get anything
else. what i will say is jeff sessions is that fly in the ointment for this president for various reasons. one, u.s. senators are, republican senators are very ainngry with this president abo messing with jeff sessions. two, if the president does decide to fire jeff sessions, it's obstruction of justice and three, this is the interesting piece to me. since the president doesn't like jeff sessions so much and really doesn't want to hear what he has to say, jeff sessions is allegedly the hold up to bringing a sentencing reform to the white house. they're only doing prison reform, not linking it with sentencing reform becaus sessions does not want to do it. that's interesting right there. so jeff sessions yields a lot of power and the president to a certain extent has to eat it even though he's jabbing him with a thank you and making those little tweets about his -- >> you know the first sitting senator to come out and endorse him and oall this and now, jeff sessions, the guy just every single day, trump a thorn in his side. i want to ask before you go, paul, bill clinton. the fallout to his remarks about
in his defiance about not apologizing personally to monica lewinsky. here he is in the initial interview when he discussed it and then ever since, trying to fix it. >> you ever apologize to her? >> yes. i apologized to everybo in the world. >> but you didn't apologize to her. >> i have not talked to her. the truth is, the hub ub, i got hot under the collar because of the way the questions were asked. i was mad at me. >> you said in the interview you did ize. >> here's what i want to say. it wasn't my finest hour. >> what wasn't? the way he's handled himself to craig mel fact that he still has not tried to personally apologize to monica lewinsky and he's defiant about that. >> that he mishandled that interview so badly. he's publicly apologized to miss luewinsky and her family and he
did again this week. >> that's not the same thing. >> no, it's not, but never had an affair, but if i do, i don't think my wife is going to want me to call somebody i used to have a relationship with. the damage, so much of the damage to this young woman was done in public and the apology was in public. i think that's the appropriate venue. and if you go back, viewers ought to take a look at their google machine. google the speech he gave. i was there. september 11th, 1998. "the new york times" described it as one ofhe most remarkable speeches in american history. he publicly and tearfully apologized to her and her family, rightfully so and his own family and the rest of f the country. that's what a person does when he takes responsibility for his fl flaws and mistakes. a far cry from the current president who won't apologize for anything. that's a pretty important lesson there. >> all right, thank you all. and next, porn star stormy daniels filing a new lawsuit tonight. this time, this would be hugely significant if it's true. saying her former lawyer was colluding with trump's lawyer.
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the two lawyers from this year. in the text messages, they're trying to get her to appear on fox news andsavo the in touch magazine interview that daniels had given about hera alleged affair with the president. cohen allegedly texting him, keith, the wise men believe the story is dying. i don't think it's smart for her to do interviews. let her do her thing, but no interviews. why are they talking about this if they represent clients against each other. davisson replies, 100%. cohen texts back, thanks, pal. bu the ties between them don't stop there. sara sidner is "outfront." >> the ties that bind these two men could spell trouble not only for president trump's personal attorney, michael cohen, but the president himself. cnn has learned some of the case that is the fbi's investigated learn that keith davidson. according to sources with
knowledge of of the investigation. >> i get involved when the situation or relationship has gone bad. >> now everyone knows about the two big cases. stormy daniels and karen mcdougle. two women who say they ha sex w initially represented by keith davidson. >> beth of those deals were silenced. it just seems like an awfully strange coincidence that both land ed in your lap. don't you >> nt all. i have a veractive practice. and when very, there are few attorneys that would go against large corporations, powerful celebrities and that's one thing that known for. >> but there are three other cases involving both attorneys. like big time republican fund-raiser and vice chairthemp. in 2017, davidson represented a former playboy model who says
brodey got her pregnant during their affair. cohen represented her and cohen an negotiated a deal to pay her$1.6 million and t keep quiet about the deal. bella, who worked with trump on the apprentice and his beaut page according to a source, cohen connect ed him to davidson, whod a cease and desist letter after tom arnold wrote a barrage of tweets about him. and he also steered another strange case to davidso a go fund account for a homeless woman tryin protect donald trump's star oon the hollywood walk of fame. someone ran off with the money collected for her and davidson represented the trump supporter who set up the account. all these cases hint acoziness attorney and keith davidson and that's what karen
alleged in a suit against the ami. she believed ami conspired to kill her story with the help of davidson and cohen. mcdougle later settled her case with ami and never sued keith davidson. he admits he called cohen after brokering the deal with ami even th cohen was not an official party to the case. >> it just seems o up thene to michael cohen and say hey. >> i understand the questions. and why you may think that or other people may think that, but that's not the case. >> now, davidson points out that this story all came to heard him throu three different people. none of them were michael cohen. he says that michael avenatti's lawsuit against him is ivolous. he said he believes he can now finally tell the whole truth
about what happened with stormy daniels because he believes that his attorney client privilege has been waived. and lastly, the reason ty commg, there was a nondisclosure agreement they had all signed and agreed to. >> all right. thank you very much. sara sidner, you know the only time we've had a chance to see davidson and hear his answers. t" now, kerry sand eck and former former prosecutor, ann millgrim. stormy daniels says keith davidson and michael cohen lludedal manipulate her and help trump, which would be wrong consider he's supposed to be representing her. you see these strange whatever word you'd like to use. coincidences. overlaps. what's your take? >> so, i think a couple of thing to think b about here. first of all, lawyers always have few dush yar duties to their clients. meaning there's trust and confidence and lawyers have an obligation to act on behalf of
the client. there are some things happening here that feel unusual. shozibed ity and i would say unusually close. there's a lot of back and forth in conversations. not clear in this litigation, the lawsuit is a, loogs to me as a way to keep s in the news and sort of they are tryi their case in the immediate wha not ear if there are any damages here or there's a basis for this kind of litigation. what harm happened to her in this. it's just, it's not cloear to me -- >> even if they're right, wha would be the harm. what does presid>> well, i thinktrue, the next question that always comes up when ever there's anything cohen related, is what did the president know about it. did he direct any of these steps to occur and if so, would he have complicity in whatever breach of loyalty that davidson
has been sued for. >> so let's just do some more of the tennells text messages here. still talking about this interview whing ews or whetherwell to disavow t interview where she had gone into the explicit detail about herron day view with the presidt that she said happened. this is from january. cohen says can you call me, please. cohen texts again, 15 minutes later. please call me. half hour later. anything? then davidson responds, still trying. less than a moment later, cohen writes, this is no good. we need her.as by doing tomorro create another news cycle instead of putting an end to this one. so they're on the same page about the strategy. >> it appears they have a side afwreemt and what's interesting, again, i don't think we know for sure what the side agreement was. all this stuff she just went through, the elliot brodey case,
both make iing a are the of mon out of these types of deals. ieals i leads to this question of was davidson representing daniels and what was in her best interest or working with michael cohen to get what was best for the president. >> and so to your point, say there's a side deal. say it's t uncal. whatever it might be. again, it does come back to did the president know about it or how does this change what he says, which is that he wasn't aware of this payment. >> and the same question that isways bable that he woulaware of some of one of the tweet, michael cohen says i'm with the first lady while he's talking to davidson about these other issues. what actually was going on, it's not entirely clear that it was for her bene at the same time, there was an agreement between her and cohen. and at some point, obviously, the plan changed a a
w lawyer and went in a different direction. so vidson liabi depends on when the plan changed. >> and ann, before we go, you've got davidson reportedly cooperating with the feds if the you now have him cooperating against cohen. >> that's interesting because he brought the brodey case to cohen and that makes no sense. it makes sense if he represents a woman that allegations donald trump did something. why would you bring something to cohen that doesn't directly involve trump. herings him in. cohen personally benefits. raises questions. >> serious questions because at this point, the only appears to involve brodey. bringing trump into that would be a big change. thank you both so very much and next, trump wrongly accusing canada of burning down the white house in 1812. we'll talk about the factual
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tonight, the white house trying to explain the president's tense call with the canadian prime is included trump an erroneous reference to the war of 1812. obviously canada ab called a national security threat by this. jim acosta has this exclusive reporting. ink b about but what exact you ly did go down this this testy call with trudeau? >> they've been going back and forth for several weeks now over the t's decision to slap tariff. it is kind of incredible to wrap your mind nd and during this conversation, justin trudeau pressed the president and said how can you justify these tariffs for r nationa security
reasons as the president, the administration laid out. at that point, justin trudeau a he was pressing the president was told by the president, well didn't you guys burn down the white house, referring to the war of 1812. of course there's a historical problem. the canadians did not. that was the british. but its go to this very tense relationship that has suddenly developed between two close allies and trudeau saying it's offensive the him, insulting, that the u.s. would claim national security reasons for these tariffs. >> to make a joke, not a joke, you know. >> exactly. >> the big question of course even when you talk about this, this whole embroilio about the war of 1812 is why does canada pose a risk? it's an absurd thing on the face of it and they are using it as their justification. have they beenlegitimaten for t excuse for tariffs? >> i do think it's a stretch.
they are trying to give a justification. i talk today a senior administration official today who did not try to repeat the president's justification. because that obviously is not true. but this senior administration official said listen, the steel and -- in an event of a war, the industries would not be able to produce the tanks and ships and jets to fight that kind of a battle. obviously one would think if a war like that did break out, the u.s. would rise to the occasion. but going back to your comment about how the canadians are not laughing, we talk today a sourc the canadians are not laughing about this and they think if a trade war breaks out, american workers won't be laughing. >> look, putting aside the fact there is some humor in it, the absurdity of it. why even bring it up if you
don't know anything about the war of 1812 as sitting president of the united states. >> look one for his. >> i kmaybjue fact. and now to rudy giuliani. so, rudy's in israel and b has been weighing in on everything from frump trump's marriage to stormy daniels, to how she looks, to whether she's a porn star or not, to whether he watches porn to kim jong-il on. here's what he said about how mel ania feels about her. >> she believes in her husband. she knows it's not true. i don't think a slight suspicious. excuse me, when you look at stormy da i know donald trump and -- look at his three wives. right? beautiful women. classy women. women of great substance. stormy . >> okay. joining me now, and also friends
rudy giuliani. kristen, let me start with you.t he said today. so, what do you say? trump has been married three times to classy women of substance and oh, stormy daniels? >> it is astonishing, even the way he is speaking about her, supposedly a porn star, den gradi grating her. i guess he was casting dispersions on the way she looked. looks like a beautiful woman to me, but what do i know? look, it doesn't matter what you do f a living.
people who have jobs like her who have immense integrity, and i think that she is a businesswoman, this is what she has chosen what to do with her life and she deserves to be treated respectfully. >> the pure issue of whatever h issue with somebody who sells her body but not with people who pay money to keep her quiet? >> the business yo are in, entitlou to no degree of give can your credibility any weight. she has no reputation. if you are going to sell your body for money, you just don't have a reputation. >> well, she has a reputation, andlook, how many moms and dads out there are praying each night that their daughter grows up to be a porn star. it is not what i want for my daughters, not casting any
aspergs on her. >> but you are. >> she chose to do that. it is a rhetorical question, but i don't think you or most people want their daughter to grow up to be a porstar. >> tell you what do i abo men who decide to be with porn stars andir wife at . >> it happens. it has happened. we don't know if it has happened. we do know that she has made a living doing this. she had an agreement which she is trying to get out of. she got paid which may be she wants more, who knows. but i think, what rudy was saying, can we boil this down, this happened in 2006, has nothing to do with him being president of the uniates. >> i would but kristen i will let you make the point.
rudy is boiling it down to she is ugly, she is a prostitute. and you can't listen to anything she say. >> it is miss songist. >> rudy giuliani cheated on his wife. he is in no position to be lecturing people about integrity. nothing that stormy daniels has done that cowl be close to that up and act like rudy giuliani, no i would not. he should back off and stick to the facts. >> before we go, this happened in israel. he talked about kim jong-un, getting on his hands and knees and begging for it. this is one of many things of what he said. we have video of him
waving a towel over his head. is this the rudy you know. >> he was having a good time and i would, if i were rudy, is probabne going to tape me and put it on the internet? but what is he doing there? he is having a fun time. the left is making stormy daniels to be joan of ark, i mean, please. >> i don't think he was making her to be joan of ark, but i don't think you should disparage. >> next breaking news, the husband of kate spade detailing news about their life together. s until exxonmobil scientists put it to the test. they thought someday it could become fuel
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tonight kate spade's husband speaking out about his wife's apparent suicide. revealing that he and his wifev several m and the fashion designer had been getting help for depression and anxiety. he wrote there was nondication or no warning that she would do this. it was a complete shock. andy spade also addressed the report about the wife's suicide note. what are you learning? >> reporter: it is an amazing statement cnn obtained through a spokesperson written by kate spade's husband. he talks about so much has been
made about the suicide note, he says if there is one, i have yet to see any note behind. and i am appalled that a private daughter left to my daughter has been so heartlessly shared with the media. he does go into great detail about the separation of the couple. he said that they have been living apart for ten months. he lived blocks away from right here at the apartment where kate lived. he had been sharing their daughter, d together, never mentioned the word divorce but trying to work through their problems as the best friends they were and he says this is the truth, erin. >> and he also referenced her great love for her daughter in a
poignant way. >> reporter: she loved her daughter hing.s battling and anxiety many years. she said there was no sign of this, and we were in shock. >> thanks for joining us. ac 360 with anderson joined tonight. tonight a mother and daughter reunited on this broadcast. alice marie johnson was released after 21 year prisosentenced fo time nonviolent federal drug conviction. act, president trump commuted her sentence. it came after kim kardashian west lobbied herelease. her sentencing or the real