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boarding air force one. the president called the meetings intense and productive yet he really earned no new real language from north korea on the big issue at hand, that's denuclearization. and the president surprised the world announcing a new major concession to north korea, the president announced the u.s. will stop what the president calls war games, referring to the joint military exercises the u.s. conducts alongside north korea. the president also said he did discuss human rights with kim briefly but he called kim a very talented man. alisyn? >> john, president trump's big gamble was sealed with an historic handshake and praise for the north korean dictator. president trump says he has, quote, an excellent relationship and very special bond with kim. kim jong-un now vows to leave the past behind. so what does all that mean? let's begin our coverage with cnn's kaitlan collins. she is live for us in singapore. give us the latest. >> reporter: well, alisyn, the
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president just left singapore. he's settling in for a long flight back to washington, d.c. but that lengthy press conference that the president held at the end of the day of his meetings with kim jong-un is just raising more questions about what, if anything, the united states got out of all of this. arsenal. after the two leaders signed a joint agreement plujing to work toward complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> we'll be verifying. it will be verified. >> how will you achieve that, president? >> it will be achieved by having a lot of people there. >> reporter: in return, president trump making a massive concession. agreeing to stop joint military exercises between the united states and south korea, exercises that greatly annoyed the north korean leader. >> we will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money
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unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should. but we'll be saving a tremendous amount of money, plus i think it's very provocative. >> reporter: at a press conference immediately following the historic summit, president trump was pressed repeatedly about north korea's horrendous human rights record. >> the man you met today, kim jong-un, as you know has killed family members, has starved his own people, is responsible for the death of otto warmbier, why are you so comfortable calling him very talented? >> well, he is very talented. anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run it and run it tough. >> reporter: mr. trump offering differing responses when asked whether he raised the issue with kim jong-un. >> it was discussed. it was discussed relatively briefly compared to denuclearization. we did discuss it today pretty
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strongly. knowing what the main purpose of what we were doing is, denucing, but discussed it at pretty good length. >> reporter: president trump saying he would absolutely invite kim jong-un to the white house as both leaders pledge to continue negotiations at the earliest possible date. >> our whole relationship with north korea and the korean peninsula is going to be a very much different situation than it has in the past. we have developed a very special bond. >> the signing ceremony coming after nearly five hours of meetings on a historic day that began with both men shaking hands for the first time. president trump and kim jong-un greeting each other with guarded smiles but appearing relaxed before meeting one on one with only their translators for
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nearly 40 minutes. >> really fantastic meeting. lot of progress. really very positive. i think better than anybody could have expected. top of the line. really good. >> the one on one followed by an expanded bilateral meeting with their top advisers, a working lunch, in all at least six different photo ops. mr. trump even giving kim jong-un a look inside the presidential limousine known as "the best beast." >> it's my honor. we'll have a terrific relationship i have no doubt. >> now, john, even the south koreans expressing some confusion here. the president said he was calling off those joint military exercises between the united states and south korea. something that is being seen as a massive concession on trump's behalf. they issued a statement from the blue houssaying, quote, at this moment the meaning and intention of president trump's remark requires more clear understanding. saying essentially they need to still figure out what the
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president even meant by that, john. >> all right, kaitlan collins here in singapore. thanks so much joining me now cnn political and national security analyst and new york times correspondent david sanger and cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto here with me as well. david, the united states did suspend these joint exercises back in the '90s during one round of negotiations, but this time around you say it appears a little different. >> he didn't talk about every resuming them. maybe he would, but he didn't say we're temporarily doing this, we're doing this for 50 days, a few months while we're getting this together. and as it's clear from that statement that you just heard, he completely blind sided the south koreans. so, the way -- the president doesn't think in terms of alliances. he thinks in terms of transactions. and in this case, in order to get the transaction here which was a very vaguely worded statement, we'll come to that in a moment, he felt he needed to give something and what he gave
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was a set of exercises that the pentagon would tell you is the core of the military to military relationship with south korea. does that mean skipping one or two is going to bring down readiness? no. if you never did them again, it certainly would. >> you're talking about the language on denuclearization as being vague. i can read that for you. reaffirmed his complete, unwavering commitment to denuclearization. jim, the president made this sound like this was a new, solid, firm commitment from kim. in fact, the word reaffirm just proves it isn't. >> true. later in the document the language to work towards denuclearization is included. and with none of the specificity of timing, verification, et cetera. so you have that imbalance. you have very specific concessions described by the president. reversible granted you could suspend those exercises and start them again. you could withdraw troops as the president presented as a
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possibility and send those troops back, i suppose. although it's difficult once you take them off the peninsula, those very specific commitments from the president with nothing specific from the north korean side. and just for comparison, let's look back, if we can, to past agreements where you did get more specific language from the north koreans. just call up 2005. this was the result of six-party talks. president george w. bush was president. if we put the language up on the screen. what we committed to them the dprk said that they would -- i'll read it for you -- committed to abandoning all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs and returning at an early date treaty of the nonproliferation, the npt and iaei safeguards. in 2005, this is an agreement that north korea later broke. specific mentions of iaea inspectors, returning to the npt which involves a whole host of other commitments, you have none
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of that in this agreement. so when you look at what past presidents got and this president got in terms of north korea does not compare well. >> that's interesting because president trump will say, look, the north koreans broke that agreement. what's different this time is me. who is president and secretary of state and that might keep the north koreans from breaking it. one other piece of news the president announced, david, and you have information on this. he said that kim told him that he destroyed some kind of missile engine testing facility. what is it and is that significant? >> this engine testing facility is where they built the engines which have russian origin that powered those intercontinental ballistic missiles that they were setting off. they're very important because if you don't conduct the tests you can't build the intercontinental missile. now, it's possible that they've now solved most of the major problems, but as of last week, 38 north a group that monitors a lot of this is beginning to report that they saw indications
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on satellite imagery that the test site was being blown up. it's a very famous photograph of kim at this test site when they were testing what became the missiles that did the intercontinental. just back to jim's point here for a minute. what the president did today was basically build a relationship and then say, i'm now turning it over to mike pompeo to make this work. mike pompeo is now in the position that john kerry was in at the beginning of the iran talks. >> yeah. >> president doesn't want to talk about it in that regard because he doesn't think much of the iran talks and the negotiations. i tried in one of the questions to get him to say i've got to do better than that. he didn't take the bait on it. so, this is going to be a long process in which we're going to begin to learn how the north koreans defined denuclearization. the fact that they've -- they are destroying this test site, engine test site, that they destroyed their nuclear test site or at least conducted some explosions there. we don't know how much they
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destroyed it, tells you they're willing to go somewhere down the line. the betting word for most people who know north korea is they're looking for arms control, not arms elimination. they're looking to cut things down but never give everything up. the president would not go there today when we tried to press him on that. >> that's the cia's assessmented as well the president would have been briefed on the north korea doesn't have the intention to completely give it up because it's so tied to their survival. again the way they define denuclearization, specifically this language on the peninsula is a broader -- we're going to be denuclearizing as you are, by the way. >> your submarines, your planes, your nuclear umbrella, maybe that will have to be diminished as well. there was something interesting. at the beginning of the news conference the white house played this video, i understand the president showed to kim on an ipad. some kind of like a real estate development video to sell you
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something. >> it went on before the president took the stage, and we didn't know what was going on. we thought well, maybe the singaporeans are doing an ad for singapore until it became clear that this was in korean and so forth. it turns out that the president had somebody make a video that sort of looked at the future. and it was a very trumpian future. it had big, beautiful buildings in it. >> inside north korea. >> inside north korea. initially when i looked at it, i thought they're basically saying you're going to be like south korea, look like seoul. then he -- the president came out and said, well, we showed this video to president kim. he said he was very interested in it. that's different thing from saying he liked it. okay? >> interested and liked are two different things. believe me. i know from experience. >> we'll close the prison camps first. here is the thing -- >> human rights is a huge issue here. the president was pressed on this repeatedly by reporters in the room. the president said he did bring up human rights, albeit briefly. the language he used to describe
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kim. he's a very talented man. he said north korea is a rough place, but there's a lot of rough places. >> this is classic trump what aboutism. he said that regarding russia you'll recall an interview number of months ago, putin has done a lot of bad things, but america has done bad things. that is what our adversaries normally do. you preach to us but you're not so good yourself. trump doing the work there. but i'll tell you, looking at kim almost as a young man who took over his father's business. it was tough for him to take it over as 25. he's a dictator who assumed power because it's a dictatorship and he's the son of a dictator. to keep power, he killed a number of relatives some of whom he took into a sports stadium and shot within anti-aircraft gun. this is who we're talking about here. >> it was interesting to watch kim. the first time we really got to
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see him at all was with president moon of south korea. now with the american president sitting side by side making the statement, thanking the president, talking about all the obstacles that he has overcome or the world has overcome to get here, david, i wonder what struck you. it was a remarkable image of the two men. >> i guess three things struck me. first of all, kim had his coming out party in the past couple months. he met the president of china twice, he met the president of south korea twice, he met the president of the united states once. he took a walking tour of night life in singapore, looked like he was having a pretty good time, seeing what was going on. north korean media later on described singapore terms of what north korea might like to be like. the second thing is he goes home having had a one to one meeting with the president of the united states, something his father and his grandfather never accomplished. he's clearly regarded as a world leader in the eyes at least of his own people. that gives him a significant boost. the third thing is, he can go
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home and he said, i didn't give them anything. i gave them a reworded version of what my grandfather committed to in 1992, what my father committed to in 2005 and 2008 and we'll see how these negotiations go and what we get for them, but right now nothing ventured. nothing gained. >> i didn't give them anything will be the sentence that is argued over i think for the coming days between supporters of the president and people, analysts looking at this. jim, the president in a sense responded to that. he said, look, i'll sit on a stage with anybody if there's any chance of peace. coming here was worth it full stop. >> remember, we do have to remember that a few months ago military action was a real possibility, not just public comments fire and fury. it was our reporting that there was serious discussions internally about this. and any military nax that context you're talking about the danger of the loss of tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of
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thousands of lives. this would be no alconflict not the question is,ha do you do substantially to ruce north korea's nuclear threat from this statement we don't know. >> right. the ball is in mike pompeo's court in the meetings that will take place as soon as next week. great to have you with us. the president on his way home. alisyn, kim on his way back to north korea. it will be fascinating to see the receptions that both men receive. >> indeed it will. so we will be watching back here today. meanwhile, the trump/kim summit was filled with lots of photo ops and of course this written agreement, but what does it say and what will come out of it? and how are the media all across the spectrum from right to left covering it? jake tapper joins us for that conversation next. her salon was booked for weeks,
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♪ president trump has just ended this historic summit with the north korean leader, kim jong-un. and he held his first full news conference in more than a year. the president says he trusts that kim will stick by this
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agreement, that both men signed today in singapore. and he surprised the world when he said he would end the war games, as he calls them, those joint military exercises, with south korea. >> we will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should. but we'll be saving a tremendous amount of money, plus i think it's very provocative. >> joining us now is the anchor of the lead jake tapper, also the author of the fabulous historical novel "the hellfire club" climbing up the best seller list day after day. great to see you. >> great to be here. >> let's start right there. we know that ostensibly the north has given up their nuclear arsenal, so what has the u.s. given up for this? >> well, not so fast. right? i know you're being cheeky with
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that, but the fact is that the north koreans have made this promise before. they have signed documents along these lines before. in fact f you read the statement, it says that kim jong-un reaffirmed his commitment to the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsu peninsula, reaffirmed. meaning he said it before. he's saying it again. >> and his father and his grandfather as well. but do you think it's possible because he now has a personal relationship with president trump that this time we will see it? >> look, anything is possible. of course president trump and the trump administration should be applauded for attempting to solve this problem through diplomatic means. no question. i am skeptical of north korea. i don't think that that makes me an unusual individual in this country. m skeptal of north korea. i'm skeptical that they ve actually agreed to do anything much more than they've already agreed to do and violated in previous treaties and previous efforts by other presidents. now, president trump is very
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sure of himself and confident of his ability to get this done. and i hope he is right. i hope he is correct. but, as of now, i see no evidence that the north koreans are really on any sort of path to denuclearization. >> okay. well, president trump is quite confident, as you said. >> he is. >> he has given a one on one interview to abc, so let's listen to that moment. >> he trusts me, i believe. i really do. i mean, he said openly and said it to a couple of reporters that were with him that he knows that no other president ever could have done this. no other -- he knows the presidents. he knows who we had in front of me. he said no other president could have done this. i think he trusts me and i trust him. >> no other sitting u.s. president has done this. >> well, that's true. although, it is also fair and, again, i don't want to belittle the attempt being made for peace here by president trump, but it is also true that previous presidents could have had one on one summits with kim jong-un or
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kim jong-il. and the concern was that you don't want to give north korea that kind of prestige. you don't want to elevate them without having something guaranteed in terms of what they actually are willing to do, in terms of denuclearization and in terms of what secretary of state pompeo constantly refers to as irreversible and verifiable denuclearization. so, it's not as if other presidents couldn't have done this. it's that they didn't want to. that's the big difference here. >> so back to my question about what the u.s. has conceded. so no joint military exercises with south korea, that's an interesting one because those are what gave south korea some feeling of security. >> right. >> now they may feel more precarious in this new situation. >> although they have been pushing for this more than anyone, to be fair to president trump. president moon and the south korean government has been pushing for this summit. they are the ones who really led the way on this. so, i've seen some reporting this morning that the south
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koreans, not all of them necessarily in the government, knew about this pledge to cancel this joint military exercise. that said, i don't believe that we're going to hear any word of concern from south korea. they have really been pushing for this the whole time. >> we just got a message in here from barbara starr, our pentagon reporter, who said that there were joint military exercises scheduled for august, this summer, between south korea and the u.s. i don't know, i guess those have been cancelled for the moment. >> what was unusual hearing president trump describe those joint military exercises as provocative. that's a word that the north koreans would use about this military exercises. now, it's true that in the name of peace it's probably a good gesture to cancel these or at least not do them in august, but by the same token -- and he did hold out the possibility that they'll return if future negotiations aren't going the way he wants them to. but it is a significant concession. and it's interesting for the president of the united states
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to refer to u.s. south korean joint military exercises as provocative because really that's the point of the view of the north korean. >> so also, you know, bonding with a north korean dictator does require some level of putting blinders on to the human rights abuses. >> sure. horrific how many rights abuses. they have goologues. more than 100,000 north koreans locked up for their political views and their families with them. obviously otto warmbier the american student who allegedly vandalized something is now dead because of north korean human rights abuses. >> look, president trump talked about that. he said he felt that it was otto warmbier, that moment that tredy is what sort of broke the damn. he credited otto warmbier being the tipping point here, whether that is true or not, that's how he interpreted it. >> it's a nice sentiment and i believe that his feelings are very heartfelt when it comes to the warmbier family, this is a
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despotic regime. they abuse their people. it is almost unparalleled when it comes to the human rights abuses that the north korean government imposes upon its people. you know, i'm sure you've seen north koreans and south koreans in terms of the starvation of the north koreans. south koreans, i think, are the average south korean is taller, weighs more and obviously it's the same people. >> yeah. president trump was asked about those human rights abuses at the press conference. so listen to this. >> the man you met today, kim jong-un, as you know, has killed family members, has starved his own people, is responsible for the death of otto warmbier. why are you so comfortable calling him very talented? >> well, he is very talented. anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run it and run it tough. >> what do you, president trump,
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expect him kim jong-un to do with the human rights abuses with regard to the north korean people? >> it was discussed. it was discussed little compared to the denuclearization that's where we started and where we ended. but they will be doing things. and i think he wants to do things. i think he wants to -- you would be very surprised. very smart. very good negotiator. wants to do the right thing. and i believe it's a rough situation over there. there's no question about it. and we did discuss it today pretty strongly. i mean, knowing what the main purpose of what we were doing is, denucing but discussed at pretty good length. we'll be doing something on it. it's rough. it's rough in a lotf places, by the way. >> so interesting to hear how he frames kim jong-un. he took over this situation at 26 and ran it. i mean, it's hard not to hear some level of projection when the president talks like that. >> well, there are two things going on here, i think. first of all, he is trying to
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negotiate peace. so, you have to take that into consideration with how he's talking about this dispottic dictator, right? he's trying to achieve peace. you're not going to go and be candid how horrible he has been. but beyond that, there is a whole -- there are years worth of words that the president has given when it comes to praise for autocrats and criticism of people who run democracies. and it is just a matter of fact he has said -- he praised the leaders of china for putting down the tiananmen square massacre as strong. i asked him about that during a debate years ago. he just has an admiration for autocrats seemingly, at least based on the adjectives he selects, that you can't get away from. but that said, i do view this in the context of him trying to be diplomatic about somebody he's trying to negotiate peace with. >> fair enough. we'll talk about the feeling of the allies, if you'll stick around. >> i will, of course. >> thank you very much. we'll take a quick break
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♪ i'm john berman live in singapore. the sun has set on this city. and the sun has set on this historic day. history in the sense that no sitting u.s. president has ever met with the north korean leader. that has now happened. president trump sat down with north korean leader kim jong-un. they held a series of these rolling photo ops, six in total. they met for about five hours. you're looking at these pictures of them signing that document. that was history. this day in singapore also historic what we saw from kim jong-un, walking along the streets of singapore, actually i can see the area where he walked here in this thriving capitalist mecca. kim jong-un took that walk about
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and was greeted by a celebrity, cheered at times. so that was history. but the big question is how will history record what was achieved here toward the ultimate goal of denuclearization. has the united states pushed north korea any closer to that actual goal? remember, that was the purpose of this meeting. and as of now, that is unclear, whether anything new or different was achieved than the past. i'll throw it back to new york and round table with two selling best selling authors. alisyn camerota author of "amanda wakes up" and jake tapper, hellfire club". >> jake is busy reading or would please take this shot. >> i've already read it. i'm reading it again. i can't tear my eyes away. >> it's that riveting out in paperback today. >> i read it six times. god you guys are good. you guys are good. john, thank you. there are other images that we
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do need to talk about as well equally riveting. >> yes. >> president trump holding a wide ranging news conference after his historic summit with kim jong-un, mr. trump also addressed questions about the g7 summit just a couple days ago and this picture that made headlines around the world. >> the picture with angela merkel, who i get along with very well, where i'm sitting there with this, that picture is we're waiting for the document because i wanted to see the final document as changed by the changes that i requested. that was a very friendly -- i know it didn't look friendly and i know it was reported like nasty both ways. i was angry at her. actually we were just talking the whole group about something unrelated to everything, very friendly, waiting for the document to come back. >> let's bring back jake tapper. jake, the split screen image of the seeming tension with allies and then the warmth with kim jong-un is fascinating. i mean, this week has been mind blowing. >> look, president trump was elected to be a disrupter and he
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is disrupting. he is disrupting the old ways of doing business. he's obviously very hawkish when it comes to pushing back on allies when one has to do with trade. he really wants a denuclearization deal with north korea. yes, the split screen is fascinating. actually and michelle kaczynski has some reporting on what exactly president trump was pushing back on in that photo. apparently he was objecting to a term in the communique referring to the rules based international order, something that previous presidents signed off on all the time and also insisting that the term reciprocal when it comes to trade be included. >> did he ultimately bow out of it all together? >> he agreed to the communique initially and only after the justin trudeau press conference which apparently offendehis sensibiliti sensibilities. >> it's tha justin trudeau says claimed one thing said to the
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president privately and said something different in the press conference insulted -- trump interpreted as an insult or difference in tone than what justin trudeau agreed to privately. that's just the president's interpretation. >> right. you look at what president trump has said, you follow the news pretty closely, you're an anchor in the morning show. >> yeah, three hours as opposed to just one. >> you picked up on this, five days a week as opposed to six. sometimes the president insults people. you might have picked up on this. and sometimes he does so in a way that is far harsher than what we saw from justin trudeau. >> yes. you know what else, sometimes the president insults people after giving them warm man hugs. so that's what is i think so interesting about what is happening with kim jong-un is that just because there's warmth today doesn't mean there will be warmth tomorrow. ask macron. >> absolutely true. and i think the next six months are going to prove whether or
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not today was anything other than a public relations gesture or whether it really was honestly a breakthrough. look, it might be. there might be some chemistry these two have that allows a true and lasting peace on that peninsula. i'm a skeptic of the north koreans. i do not believe the north koreans. time will tell. i hope the president is correct. >> of course. and then with the allies, where are we today? when the president lands, is there still tension with the eu and canada? what happens after that summit seemed to have gone awry? >> i mean, i think that they'll just move on and pick up. he has done this throughout his presidency. remember when he went to nato and had some rough comments there about people weren't pulling their weight. i mean, his throwing hay makers at our allies, at u.s. allies, traditional allies, europe, australia, canada, is nothing new. i think they're getting used it to.
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i think the european allies are stunned that it keeps happening. but i think, you know, i think they have settled into a world where a lot of us are which is constantly stunned but not necessarily surprised. >> president trump said that it will cost canada a lot. justin trudeau's kments. we shall see when he lands what that means, cost canada a lot. >> can i say one thing? this is one of our most important allies as a country. they fight in wars with us. they fought in afghanistan with us. >> lost people. >> lost people. i mean, it's not an alliance to be taken lightly. let's move on to the white house national economic counsel director, larry kidlow, who suffered what we're told is a mild heart attack. >> yeah. >> we saw him a day before that news was announced on state of the union. here is larry kidlow after a question that you asked. watch this. >> potus is not going to let a
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canadian prime minister push him around. he is not going to permit any show of weakness on a trip to negotiate with north korea nor should he. >> so this was about north korea? >> of course it was in large part. >> because trudeau said -- >> absolutely. >> people felt he was fairly exercised on your show and then the news broke the next day that he had a mild heart attack. >> yeah. >> but today we're told that he's recovering. >> good. >> what was your impression when he came on your show? >> he seemed to be slurring a little bit, and i assumed it was just because he had gotten off a long flight the night before and he's 70 years old. i don't mean to make light of that. i'm almost 50. i know the years catch up with us. >> but you felt physically he wasn't in perfect shape? >> i mean -- i might be projecting back a little bit. he didn't seem to be -- he seemed tired to me at the time. he seemed tired to me, but that's not so odd for somebody who just got off this international flight late the
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night before, had to get up early to do a sunday show. it's not so strange. but larry is whatever you think of his politics, he's a nice guy and i know that we're all wishing him the best in his recovery route. >> in terms of tenor of what he said to you, was that more animated and sort of exercised than we had heard him in the past, how he was talking about north korea and the message being sent to the allies? >> he is a free trader. i think it's been an adjustment. he's known for having a very different position on economics than president trump, but i think that he was in that moment pushing back on trudeau the way that the white house wanted him to, finding his legs in other words. he was trying to represent the president's point of view perhaps more so than his own, which is his job. >> absolutely. he seems to have embraced it at least in that interview with
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of security that they've got a ready military force that's battle ready, ready to fight tonight. that's the motto they stand by. so what we heard from the blue house the president's office this evening, gives us a little insight into what the president here is thinking about thi issue of suspending or stopping entirely those military exercises. i'll read it to you. it says this. at this moment we need to figure out president trump's accurate meaning and intention of that statement. goes on, however, we believe we need to seek various measures, how to efficiently move forward to the dialogues during serious talks are being conducted to denuclearize the korean peninsula and to establish relations between north korea and the united states. i think what we're hearing from the blue house here is that they want to understand what precisely does the president mean. but more to the point that they're willing to go potentially that extra mile, if
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that's what it takes to move this overall peace process forward. john? >> i'll take it, thanks so much, nic. thanks for the reporting from there. just a few hours back here at home, a federal judge will announce his ruling in the at&t/time warner merger. this decision could have a domino effect on other proposed block buster media deals. cnn, of course, is owned by turner, and that is a division of time warner. cnn has been in washington covering this case from gavel to gavel. she has a preview. what are we expecting? >> alisyn, this is a day that the business community has been eagerly awaiting for months. 4:00 p.m. a federal judge here in washington will rule whether or not at&t should be allowed to buy time warner, our parent company. as you said this ruling will have implications not just on these two companies but on all the other companies considering major mergers as well, disney, comcast, 21st century fox.
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as soon as this week, as soon as the judge rules, we'll expect action on some of these other deals. now, this is going to be like a stoplight in the industry. the judge rules yes, it will be like more consolidation green light. if he rules no, red or yellow light and hold off on some of these mergers. the justice department sued to stop this merger last year because the government believes if at&t owned time warner, they would have too much power in the industry. harm competition and possibly raise prices for consumers. at&t/time warner say they need this merger to compete with amazon, netflix, apple. at&t claims that prices won't go up. this would help all of these companies. now, ultimately this is not the end because even though the judge will say yes or no, there's going to be an appeals process. so today it is just the beginning of an even longer process, alisyn. >> oh my gosh, hadas, this is a lifelong employment for you. so that's the good news.
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thank you very much for all of your reporting. >> thank you. so, you have to hear this next story. these two men say that they taped up the president's ripped up papers for the sake of history. so now these two former aides describe their very strange assignment and why they got fired. that's next. ote yet? nah. honey look, your old portable cd player. my high school rethainer. oh don't... it's early 90s sitcom star dave coulier... cut...it...out! [laughing] what year is it? as long as stuff gets lost in the couch, you can count on geico saving folks money. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. looking for a hotel that fits... whoooo. ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest
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you have to hear this story. two former white house aides say their job was to tape together official papers that president trump had torn up. memos and other official documents that are annotated by any president need to be preserved under the presidential records act. that was not happening. joining us now are those two former records analysts. gentlemen, great to see you. great to have you with us. solomon, can you just elaborate
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on that for us what your job was with these documents? >> well, in the beginning of the administration after the transition period, we would get torn up documents, letters and memos, like you said, and we would have to tape them back together for records. >> for posterity. >> exactly. when we first got them, we was like, what is this? we thought it was a joke and we all talked among ourselves. this is an adult puzzle for us, you know. we never -- i hadn't messed with a puzzle in years. >> hold on a second. i think the question you were asking is the right one, oh, my, what is this? why was the president tearing up official documents? >> we never got that explanation. i never got it. >> so what did your boss tell you about why you had to tape them back together? >> we needed to do some work and
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we needed to tape these documents back together, because i guess they knew that it was against presidential records to tear documents. so we were told tape this stuff back together and make it a record. >> reggie, i know you have a little demo of the kinds of things that were delivered to you. can you both hold up, both of you, the kinds of things deliver today your desk? what size pieces of paper were these? show me some of the sizes. >> different sizes. >> tiny pieces. medium sizes. >> okay, and then what would you both set about doing, demonstrate for us. >> all right. like a puzzle. >> lay it out on the table. we put the contents on the desk and we literally had to spend
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hours per day piecing together the puzzle prior to taping them. >> reggie, did your boss ever tell you why president trump was tearing up official documents and if anybody had told him that he shouldn't do that and that these are official documents for history? >> i can't speak on what they were told as we were not privileged to be in those meetings with them. however, i did pose questions to my immediate sso to challenge our director to the validity of us doing this type of work. clearly, we are paid government employees and we serve at the interest of the american public. so our jobs are two generally do things that are more important, especially for the salary that they're paying us -- >> so before president trump, you both had, i think, worked for the government for decades, what sorts of things were you
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doing before you were taping up tiny pieces of paper? >> well, we were preserving the record for the president of the united states and any correspondence would come in or different files, like, this summit, we were heavily involved in this because they would call back a document or something that he needed right and say if he wrote a letter, we would pull the letter and say, he talked to you on this date and with such and such for talking points or anything like that. that's what we did. >> that makes perfect sense. and then after you would dutifully, laboriously tape together those documents for weeks and months that president trump had torn up, you were fired. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> why were you fired? >> that is a million dollars question that i have yet to get an answer to. >> what were you told? >> we were told that we are at will employees and that we serve
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at the pleasure of the president. >> um-hum. >> and that we can be removed at any time of their discretion. >> we reached out to the white house for a response, for an explanation to all of this. we've yet to hear back from them. solomon, why do you think you were fired? do you think is that you saw too much on those ripped up documents? >> i don't know, because it became a control factor, because they was telling us we're not supposed to tell this. we were told to stay off social media. those types of things. okay, that's my personal business. if i want to make a comment about something, i should be able to make a comment about it but that's what we were told directly, stay off social media, do not tel anything what's going on. it's only been this administration. >> okay. we're going to follow this story because this is really fascinating and it is really important that you've let america know that official documents are supposed to be preserved for history are being torn up.
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solomon and reggie, thank you very much for coming and telling us your story. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. let's get right to it. announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning. welcome to your "new day." alisyn camerota in new york. i'm john berman here in singapore where president trump and kim jong-un have made history. no sitting u.s. president has ever met with a north korean leader. that happened, the two men sat side by side. that was historic, but what has come from this meeting. that in question this morning. the president had a one hour news conference. he did face questions about what was achieved here. the president is on his way back to washington as we speak aboard air force one. kim on his way back to north korea on a chinese

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