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separating families. they should not be dragging people from their homes! and kidnapping them! >> the president as he has wanted to do is trying to bring everybody together. >> no! no! no we are not going anywhere! >> there is a growing chorus of frustration and anger and protest. >> home of the free and land of the brave. we should not be using kids as a paternity process. >> i think a black stain on the president's first term. >> we need people of good faith and different political philosophies and come together and tell the president to stop this, stop it now. >> separation anxiety. america take is inward look at immigration and how it inhumanely treats people facing asylum. >> i'm martin savidge. in for victor blackwell. >> i'm christi paul. more on our top story. also this hour.
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possibly holding online one, maybe? kim jong-un and president trump teases a possible call with the north korean dictator today. we have more stunning and new aerial images from hawaii to share with you. continuing flowing lava and now covering more than nine square miles of land. also ahead, how the antarctica ice is melting at a more rapid rate than we realize and how it will have an impact on coastal cities. your "new day" starts right now. two minutes after 7:00. thank you for being with us again on a sunday. democrats are responding to president trump as he blames them for his own administration's policy change. >> as trump appears to use the separation of migrant children from their parents as a bargaining chip, democrats like senator ron wyden says a dozen
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makes sense. lawmakers to tour immigration and make stops across texas as protests continue all over the country. >> no. no. no, we are not not going anywhere! >> reporter: here is cnn correspondent ed lavandera with a look at what lies ahead. >> reporter: while the trump administration remains unapologetic in its support the way it's rolled out the so-called zero tolerance policy for undocumented immigrants crossing into the u.s. southern border, there is a growing chorus of frustration and anger and protests that will start to be invisible here on sunday in south texas. there is a congressional delegation that will be touring several immigration facilities throughout the region, throughout the day. most of the members of that delegation very much opposed to this zero tolerance policy. there is a vigil protest also scheduled to occur here on
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sunday in mcallen, and there is another congressman who is leading a march and protest toward the newly open temporary immigrant children facility and that was opened in far west texas, so a lot of this is starting to pick up as the stories that have emerged from these -- from the zero tolerance policy and people are watching this play out, really starting to pick up steam. as i i mentioned off the top. the trump administration unapologetic and they continue to say that this policy is designed to deter undocumented immigrants from continuing to pour into the u.s. southern border. however, when you report here on the ground and you talk to immigrants who have just crossed the border, news of this policy isn't necessarily making it to every corner of these countries in central america and mexico as well, where most of these undocumented immigrants are coming from. and when you do talk to them, if they do know about the policy, they say it is a risk that they are very much willing to take,
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that anything is better than the homes -- hometowns they are coming from. that is the latest in south texas as the frustration and anger on and the focus on this issue really continues to build up. edra, cnn, in texa sources say president trump is head to go capitol hill on tuesday to talk immigration with house republicans. >> the visit follows several days as we just talked about there, confusion to over which plan the president would support here. the president did stir up confusion on friday. but incorrectly stating he would refuse to sign a compromise bill his own white house actually helped negotiate. now white officials later tried to clear things up sayingmp would, in fact, sign that bill insisting that trump
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misunderstood the question he was asked but it underscored the chaos surrounded talks. misunderstood the question he was asked but it underscored the chaos that surrounded republican talks on immigration for months now. top trump aide kellyanne conway came out and defended trump saying the president has sent a clear message on immigration and once again blaming democrats for holding up progress on a bill. take a listen. >> the president, as he has nted to do iy to bringin bring everybody together to come up with a common sense plan but he could not be more clear on his view of immigration is. he wants to have a sovereign nation that has physical borders. the democrats refuse to provide the funding necessary so that can you expand the detention centers that you have more i.c.e. agents, some common sense measures and they have been -- they have been saying -- >> reporter: all this comes against the backdrop of incread excrete knee against the trump administration to step up family separation at the border. democrats are putting more pressure on the administration to reverse that decision. even as trump and his allies
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continue to blame democrats for the law requiring family separation even though there actually, no such law exists. on tuesday, president trump will face house republicans head-on tuesday and hoping to smooth over some of the divisions have prevent legislation from moving forward so far. martin and christi? >> sarah westwood, thank you for that. becomes are not alone. listen to what two republican congressmen told cnn. >> the home of the free and the land of the brave, we should not be using kids as a deterrent policy. this is something i think is actually unacceptable and is something that, as americans, we shouldn't be doing. and this really isn't a republican or a democratic issue. this is an issue about how should you treat children. >> i would rather keep the families unified and detain them and adjudicate t
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i -- i -- i think it would be a good idea. >> the question now as presi trump prepares to meet with house republicans whether family separations are a catalyst f a sweeping immigration reform bill or a road block the bill worked out by house republicans fund the border wall while providing legal status for so-called dreamers. friday, while accusing democrats of pushing, quote, a horrible and cruel agenda, the president said any bill he signs must have wall funding and merit-based admissions, while ending catch and release, chain moigration ad visa lotteries. >> joining us is kelly jane torrance of "the weekly standard." . good morning. >> good morning. happy father's day. >> thank you. i listened to that sound bite from kellyanne conway and i don't know if she realizes the statement she makes this
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administration, this president is trying to bring people together by tearing families apart and does she not see just op of the confusion that is? came from the president with his different statements he made on, well, earlier. week and, lastly, i'll point out congress is supposed to vote this week. so what do we make of all of this? >> great questions, martin. i guess president trump is sort of bringing people together in that you have people on both sides of the aisle, of all political per situatiosuasions shocked and appalled what is going on with family situation. now i understand some of the motivation behind it. apparently there were people that made sure that they brought children with them because they were going to be treated differently from single people who are crossing the border illegally. but, you know, you can't visit the sins of the fathers on the children. and the idea that you're going to punish young children, traumaize them because of what their parents did.
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again, this has -- the children are not -- they don't have the free will. they haven't decided to cross the border themselves. mers and, of course, like the president trump has said, you know, a number of times, he supports helping the dreamers because they didn't make the decision to come here as children. so it is very confusioning. you know, especially with what happened on friday. donald trump you had make a mention on fox in the morning he wasn't going to support the moderate bill and then an anonymous white house bill telling the hill he would support it and a different anonym source telling breitbart he wouldn't. the confusion were all day. paul ryan cancelled meetings with republicans he had to meet with to get a vote next week. he cancelled those meetings. at the end of the day a white house spokesman went on the record saying the president would support this but there was damage done.
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face it. we don't have a lot of time and everybody is itching to get out and campaign for the midterms so not a lot of time in congress to get something done. yeah, i think this is a catalyst. people know that there have been many immigration issues over the course of months that we have been hearing about but when they see families torn apart, we can't wait any longer. we need to do something about this now. >> w just heard from representative rooney there saying that he would rather keep the families unified and detain and adjudicate them. he is not comfortable with this. will heard said the same thing. we are five months away from mid terms. this has captured the attention of everyone. do you believe there will be some political hell to pay for this on one side or the other? >> i think there will but it's always hard to say what trump's base will think. you know, trump's base has turned out to be very loyal to the president and when he blames democrats for this problem, now we know that's is not the case and we know this is a policy
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from his office and, in fact,, you know, the last two administrations actually apparently thought about doing this and i read the detail that discussed these options. this is bad and this is this administration but will president trump be successful in convincing a number of voters that that is not the case, that it is somebody else's fault? i hope not. i hope they watch cnn and see what is really going on here. but, yeah, i think -- i think maybe some voters that were thinking, well, president trump's presidency hasn't been so bad and some successes but might see this and goat riled up and this may get people a little more enthusiastic and interested in getting to those mid terms. >> we have heard this before but it may truly be the case because this has just exploded on social media as well as in public
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conversations. thank you very much, kelly jane torrance, for joining us. >> thank you. >> immigration dominating the national conversation right now, but another story is gaining some attention. a daughter is sharing quite an emotional account of her father. arrested and facing deportation after living in the u.s. legally for nearly 50 years. plus, kim jong-un and president trump exchange phone numbers this week. what do you now is in the first phone call could happen between the two of them today. next, we go live to south korea. and stunning new pictures from the kilauea volcano. see how the lava has changed hawaii's landscape. show you more in a moment. its multi-cloud complexity creating friction... and slowing innovation. with software-defined solutions,
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such an ordinary thing, but really it's an extraordinary thing. usually when you meet a friend or meet someone you say, here is my number. give me a call. >> right. >> well, that happened to happen this week with the president and north korean dictator kim jong-un.
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they exchanged direct phone numbers when they in singapore and the president says he plans to call kim today, if he hasn't already done so. >> in the meantime, the pentagon and military brass from south korea are scrambling to turn the president's announcement on halting so-called war games into policy. cnn's nic robertson is in seoul. do you get the sense that south korea was surprised by this announcement about the war games? >> reporter: sure. that very much the case. and what we have been hearing from the foreign minister and from the president here they want to be more involved in the decisions the united states are taking and war games and joint military exercises they like to call them is something that both sides agree on mutually. i think wher seeing a little backtracking and painstaking effort to get, you know, to get the messaging on this right. it's not clear yet if president trump has made the phone call to kim jong-un in north korea. it's about 8:15 in the evening
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in pyongyang so i guess a couple of more hours he could still make that call. from a south korean perspective, they believe this is a great -- sta great opportunity for -- for kim jong-un and president trump to sort out any personal issues that come up. that was par of the message is south korea got out of the summit and subsequently from president trump as being something that -- something that is positive. but we do know south korea's deputy foreign minister is going to -- is going to -- to washington later this week and is expected to meet with senior officials and would be expected to talk about this issue of the joint military exercises. so perhaps we might begin to learn a time frame on this but from a south korean perspective, communications with the north, absolutely key. they are putting -- they are putting two communications offices into -- into a joint enterprise with the north
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koreans to open up a line of -- reopen a line of communications with the north koreans later this week. so this is something that is seen as important and significant from the south korean side. >> of course, it would and it is. i still would love to hear the conversation between the two. any way. nic robertson, thank you very much. still to come, a legal resident of california for nearly 50 years is arrested and detained by immigration officials. but, now, awaiting deportation. his daughter talks to us about what happened and what is next for her father. plus, he's an outspoken advocate for immigrants and has been actively protesting the president's family separation policy. democratic congressman luis gutierrez will join us live next to tell us what he is doing to help these families and his message to the president. kyle: mom! mom! kyle, we talked about this. there's no monsters. but you said they'd be watching us all the time.
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comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. 25 minutes past the hour right now. always good to have you with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. democrats are firing back at president trump blaming him for his own administration policy changes. >> separation of children at the border with their parents. this has become a bargaining chip for grags it seems. >> protests continue across the country and a few hours more than half dozen lawmakers will
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tour facilities along the u.s. and mexico border. >> president trump is head to go capitol hill on tuesday to talk immigration with house w republicans. luis gutierrez is with us. some have settled in chicago. congressman, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> what is your reaction over what we have seen the last 48 hours? >> wow. i can't think in my life what is the most transformative moment in my life if not the day my wife gave birth to my two beautiful daughters and i still remember that moment so vividly when the doctor placed them in my arms. i can't think of a better greater more transformative moment and to think that children are being ripped from parents' arms. to think of my daughters being on one side of a wall, think of a large room. they are on one side of the wall and they are screaming out for
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me and i hear them and there is absolutely nothing i can do. they have been separated from me. i can't think of anything more chilling. and i can't think of any more evil that a -- anything worse or more evil a government can do than to rip a child away from their parents. i just can't. >> that is exactly why i think this is resonating with people, because we are all children of someone. many of us are parents and cannot imagine ourselves in that position as well. so when we know, say, that there is going to be this meeting on tuesday with the president with republicans, you tweeted this earlier this week. speaking of republicans. i see them scared of the president's itchy twitter finger and afraid to stand up to a bully because they are scared of losing their jobs. that is shameful. do you believe in that meeting on tuesday anything will stand up to the president? >> i don't think anything will change on tuesday.
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sorry for being so pessimistic but there is nothing. look. this is a republican strategy to win the election, to be as mean is as nasty, as cruel as you can be. >> not all republicans support what we have been seeing. >> yeah. but here is the difference, christi. when obama did not take action to protect immigrants, democrats stood up to him. democrats went and got a -- in front of the white house. we took on our party leadership. i don't see them doing that. words are easy. they need to ferociously denounce these policies. look. it is how they are going to vote. and if there is one glue that keeps the republican party together in the house, we got up to -- let me see -- 216 signatures. we were two signatures short so that we could have a vote to free dreamers, right? and we couldn't get them!
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we could barely get 20 republicans to do it. >> we have so many people -- >> they are afraid of -- >> but we have so many people who are -- we have so many people who are blaming president trump for this. what we are seeing the last 48 hours, yes, in terms of this practice of separation. but there are also a lot of people who say there have been years for congress to take this up and to have some sort of legislative physical. why is this so elusive and who do you blame in congress for us getting to this point? >> let me say this. two things. so that they are very clear. democrats have stood very proudly with the immigrant community. have we grown? have we changed? absolutely, we have grown and changed. i almost marvel at that change' i'm happy and delighted with that change. but, unfortunately, where are the voices? we need more voices in the republican party to stand up and to work with democrats. they said let's do a bill so that we can set dreamers aside and let them live in america
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free of deportation. 194 democrats, every last one of us, signed up so we could have a vote on that bill. we couldn't get the necessary reps and these are republicans who like the bill and they won't and they lack the political courage to take that step. let's be clear that this policy is a policy of donald trump. remember, jeff sessions, the attorney general, said this is a private matter. women fleeing torture, abuse, rape, right? murder. in their countries and fleeing to the united states seeking asylum and political protection in our country. he said that is a private matter. in america beat ago woman is not a private matter. it's a very public matter. >> right. there are laws against it. will you vote for either of the plans that you see thus far? >> no. neither of those plans are plans that anyone should endorse.
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they are plans that will continue to separate families. you think this is bad what is happening at the border? part of the plan of the republican party is to change the laws so to make it easier to separate a mom and a dad from their children and let me say this. dreamers, almost 2 million strong in this country. they don't want a policy that is going to give them freedom and, at the same time, allow for the deportation of their moms and their dads. we have a fair balance process. >> i literally have ten seconds. what would you say to the president if you could say something to him on tuesday? >> just be a dad. i'm sure you love your children. love these children the same way you love your own. be a dad. for one moment. don't be president. be a dad. open your heart. >> representative luis gutierrez, we appreciate you taking the time to be with us this morning. thank you, sir. >> thank you, christi. in addition, another
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immigration story is gaining national attention. 62nd-year-old jose luis garcia of california moved from mexico to the u.s. nearly 50 years ago. he was arrested by immigration officials last week, outside of his home, for a misdemeanor conviction of 18 years ago. >> now he is being held in a detention center awaiting possible deportation. cnn spoke with garcia's daughter about what happened that day. >> it was just a typical sunday morning and drinking his coffee, watering the lawn, and he started screaming out my name and i ran out, and there was eight officers or agents arresting him. i asked for a warrant and they didn't show me a warrant. they said they were going to take him. it was due to a domestic dispute that he had in 2001. and he had a misdemeanor and
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they didn't tell me where he was going to be taken or anything. they just took him. he's a green card holder. he is a legal resident, permanent resident. he has been here for 50 years. he's paid his taxes. he's a homeowner. he's been here. he has nine grandchildren, two great grandchildren. he takes care of my daughter and they should not be separating families. they should not be dragging people from their homes and kidnapping them in this country. this is my father's country. he has been here almost his whole life. we were all born here. we all live here. he's been a model citizen. he has three jobs. like, he has paid his taxes. he came here for the american dream and now it's a nightmare. >> the future is uncertain right now. natalie garcia says she has been able to see her father and visited him saturday at the detention facility where he is being held.
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be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. campaign rally in new york, rudy giuliani slammed fbi officials for the their handling. hillary clinton email probe and called an end to the possible impeachment of the president saying the entire russia investigation is, quote, made up of a bunch of distorted human beings who cried when clinton
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lost the election. >> i imagine fbi agents and prosecutor agents crying when hillary clinton wasn't elected? i think if i could get those pictures of them crying, instead of investigating president trump, they should go to belleview! quack doodles! what is going to happen to hillary? i need a psychiatrist! let's keep this seat republican and stop the possibility of a ridiculous impeachment. >> oh, i'm sorry. he went on to stress the importance of keeping congressional seats for republicans to avoid those impeachment proceedings. i was just thinking about that whole impeachment thing. let's digress and here to discuss is alice stewart and present bodski. when the president -- we should
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say that giuliani was talking about a couple of things this week. one of them it was advice that the president should not sit down and have a conversation with the mueller team. he also said that the mueller investigation now needs to be investigated, which is mind boggling. so what is the likelihood the president is going to listen to his attorney here? >> very small. i think rudy is giving sound advice and encouraging the president not to testify given his loose relationship with the truth. with regard to the statements he made at that rally, i think, clearly, the reports show there were some failures in the fbi with regard to the hillary email investigation. pillow talk between fbi agents should have stayed on the pillow and not on text and they disclosed some of their preferences as to possibly who they may want to win the election but, overall, they showed know overall political bias in that. one thing that remains clear the ig report is a clear rebuke of some members of the fbi but,
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martin, it has nothing to do with the mueller investigation on russia. so for giuliani or the president to say that they are exonerated now because of the i.d. record is simply just not true. in my view, i think they should take that report for what it is and it was not good for the fbi. but they need to just realize we still have the mueller investigate ahead of us and there is serious allegations the mueller team is investigating and make they need to get out of the way and let them do their work. if this say there is no coordination or collusion then let mueller find that and let's move on. >> brent, let's talk about the issue of pardon because that has been brought up a great deal by attorney giuliani here. pa is not necessarily a sofable thing for the president. explain that really there are
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complications with it. >> if he does you'll probably see the outrage in the country so big a massive democratic wave victory in the midterm elections. but, most important, here is the key point. if he does pardon, say, manafort and cohen, after he does, they will be subpoenaed and have to testify before the grand jury without an attorney under penalty of perjury, under oath. they will have to say everything they know, the whole truth, all of the facts, whatever negatives they may know about trump, they will have to say it all. if they don't do that, they will be then prosecuted for perjury and could spend the rest of their lives in jail because a lot of perjury counts will be done if they do lie under oath after they have been pardoned and he can't keep pardoning them every three weeks for every felony they commit. legally if he pardonsed man a
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forty and cohen they may get away with it but they will be forced to turn to trump and provide all of the dirt and nightmare for trump and i suspect he has some good attorneys, not rudy being one of them, they probably have told him this and, in my opinion, he won't pardon them because it would be a suicide move for the reasons i just stated. >> and real quick, i want to ask you both and start with you, brent. why is giuliani bringing up impeachment here? >> rudy ought to be relegated to late night comedy. he has done more damage to trump legally and politically. the more he talks, the better the midterm election for democrats goes on. i cannot even imagine why he is talking about that and what they ought to be doing is saying he didn't do it but they are not saying that except trump saying i didn't collude even though a famous collusion meeting at trump tower. >> martin, i think one thing clearly, you heard the crowd there. this rallies the base. this gets them excited when we talk about this and the
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so-called witch hunt. but mueller has made it clear, he has no intention of indicting the president. he doesn't see that that is something that could be done. but the possibility of impeachment is real if we don't keep republicans in the house and senate. so, therefore, that is why giuliani and trump are going out there to make sure that we elect republicans in the midterm and keep our control, but, martin, you travel the country. you talk to these people. i see your stories. they are not talking about that. people want to talk about jobs. they want to talk about security, they want to talk about seniors and health care. those are the issues, in my view, are winning issues for republicans and they need to go out and talk about, not just to the base but to broaden the base and that is a winning message for republicans and i hope they move -- moving forward, they focus on those issues that you talk to people about that they are concerned with and let's get off this impeachment talk. >> it's true many of his base believe all of this talk of just the prosecution is made up. they don't buy into any of it.
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but, brent, let me ask you this. immigration. i'm switching really quick. this is a very powerful issue and one many republicans feel strong about as well. they speak up speaking about family and now they see the president tearing families apart. how damaging is this? >> very damaging and i'll be requick about this. donald trump should fall to his knees and pray to the lord for his forgiveness for the cruel punishment he is imposing on the children here. it is a disgrace. he should fall to his knees and pray for forgiveness for lying when he blames president obama for it and he should fall to his knees and pray for forgiveness for having anyone in his administration use the word of the lord from the bible as a justification for barbaric cruelty to children. i don't think voters want that and i think republicans say don't stop it, they are going to regret it. >> brent budowsky and alice
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stewart, thank you. >> thank you, and happy father's day. >> thank you. >> i just can't read these things! rudy giuliani is on "state of the union" with jake tapper at 9:00 a.m. eastern. it's still early morning! listen. we need to show you some of these pictures coming in of this river of lava from hawaii's kilauea volcano and it's destroying everything. hundreds of homes. hundreds are gone! we have an update for you from the big island. stay close. oh! just sign up online and we'll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites. that sounds super helpful. how much is it? well, if you have a discover card, it's free. no way! yes way! we just think it's important for you to be in the know. all right! hey... ewww! everything ok? being in the know is very good. yeah, it is. ooo don't shake! don't shake! ahhh! know if your social security number is found on risky sites.
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take a look at this new video from hawaii. it looks like a river and it is, of lava that is flowing out of a
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fissure from the kilauea volcano. officials say more than 500 homes have been destroyed in the ongoing eruptions that started more than a month ago at this point. >> more than 5,000 acres are now red lie lava. shelters remain open. it is stunning. the images have really been almost mesmerizing. and of course you wouldn't have the hawaiien islands without volcanos. >> the people are in shelters there and we're just waiting for things to change for them so they can try to get a little bit of normalcy. this is an awfully long time the live in the fear of this. there is a new study that published this week in another natu nature-related segment, antarctica is melting at an
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alarming quick rate. >> joining us now to explain all of this cnn meteorologist. >> you have to understand how antarctica is broken down into three regions. you have the peninsula, west antarctica and then east antarctica. if you hear global warming nay sayers who say it is actually getting bigger, it is expanding, what they are referring to is east antarctica where they are getting more snow. the problem is it is not enough to offset the losses from the other two regions and that is the big concern that you even have an area that is getting larger but it is still not enough too much. this yellow region is east antarctica. it is basically stable in terms of gains versus losses. it's this darker blue color you see here, this is antarctica overall showing you that we
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really are seeing the overall loss. more importantly in just the last ten years how it has really taken a dive. so here is the thing we need to understand since antarctica ice melts have added about 0.3 inches to sea level. before 2012 it was 83 billion tons of ice yeari. since 2012 that rate has tripled. that means for a lot of coastal cities this is where you have some of the biggest impacts. take for example, this is london. you can see a lot of areas here. notice as we push this forward two degrees and four degrees warmer how it now becomes under water. i want to put something in perspective for people, too. the thing that we need to understand is just like hurricanes i can tell you there is going to be a hurricane next year but i can't tell you what city it may be in. we know that sea level rise is
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happening but it is hard to pin point which cities will be most impacted by this. >> great display. thank you. golf is a game of rules. if you were watching the u.s. open yesterday you saw one of the rules broken in a pretty big way. >> i thought there was drama in the world cup. drama and controversy at the u.s. open. what was phil mickelson doing? some want him to withdraw from the folks. we will hear from phil mickelson and what he was thinking coming up. hi.
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phil mickelson is taking a lot of heat for taking a penalty intentionally. >> who hasn't done this? >> these awful conditions at the third round of the u.s. open had some of the best players in the world looking like dudes after a bachelor party playing golf. look at the media swarm. already putting for bogey he misses long and as the ball is rolling he runs after it and says i have to stop it. before it stops moving he just taps it back towards the hole. you can't do that. that's a two-stroke penalty. phil shot a ten on that par 4. he said that wasn't frustration or goofing around, that was
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strategy. >> how can you not laugh? it's funny. it's part of the u.s. open. it's funny. i don't mean it disrespectful f. you af. -- if you are taking it that way that is not what i meant. i wanted to get to the next hole. >> that is one of the strangest things i have ever seen. i started laughing and i said i'm sorry but i have to laugh at this. >> i'm with that guy. i understand the golfing. four players tied for the lead. so far phil mickelson is going to continue to play. >> again, happy father's day to the new dad and happy father's day to this one and happy father's day to my dad and my husband. everybody, being a father it is
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