back in guatemala and honduras and you're trying to reclaim your child where you might be anywhere in the united states. it's not a simple process. this is the frustrating thing. these are things that were known to career officials at health and human services at i.c.e., at cbp, before they enacted this policy so if you're going to enact this policy of family separation, you need to have a plan for family reunification. and here it doesn't seem like a significant portion of these families have been reunited. >> and it's hard to get answers out of the administration. john sandweg, thank you for explaining how complicated this is for us. we're following a lot of news, including breaking news, so let's get right to it. good morning. it is tuesday, july 3, 8:00 in the east. let's get to breaking news this morning. we learned moments ago in the race against time to save 12 young soccer players and their coach trapped in a cave in

thailand, cnn has learned rescuers might make an attempt tonight to pull them from that cave. it's about half a mile underground. there are a lot of complications with this rescue. now, as recently as a few hours ago, we were told they were going to keep them there, try to get food to them so they could survive underground for some time because getting them out would be just too dangerous. but moments ago we learned there might be an attempt to have them swim out as soon as tonight. we're trying to figure out what has changed, whether there is concern about living there longer. we'll have a live report from thailand just ahead. >> that is remarkable because maybe they were able to somehow underwatt enlargen the hole to be able to swim out with the oxygen tanks on them so this time frame, we don't know but that is a glimmer of hope so we'll follow that. meanwhile, other news, president trump interviewing four federal judges for the supreme court vacancy. cnn has learned he met with three men and a woman. here they are on your screen. it appears that all would roll

back some portion of abortion rights or are open to that and at least one seems to have pretty clear views that a president should not be subjected to a criminal investigati investigation. the president will announce in a prime time television event. let's discuss it. i like the element of surprise. on tv. >> he magically appears after the swoop. >> a catatonic state there for a moment but i'm fine. >> you were riveted by what i was saying. >> i was. >> and we have david gregory and john avlon with us. let's -- we are obviously keeping our ear peeled for the breaking news, but in the meantime, supreme court. which way do you think he's going to go from looking at the four he's met with. >> they're similar in certain respects but very different in others. they are all very conservative. i can't draw serious distinctions among them. amy barrett is a new judge. he's only 46 years old.

she's been on the seventh circuit for a few months. brett kavanaugh is a very experienced judge, on the d.c. circuit for a decade. the judge from kentucky is new, rai ray ketheredge is new. ray kethledge. >> there are no curveballs, no surprises here on this list. amy coney barrett is interesting. she catapulted to the top of the list. she's very young. she's a woman. notre dame, catholic. she had a back-and-forth with dianne feinstein where people thought coney barrett got the better half during her confirmation for the appeals court. what kind of challenge would having amy coney barrett as the

nominee pose to democrats trying to fight this nomination? >> well, it's an interesting question because it speaks to the political dimension of all of this and the challenge is where democrats have already overreached with her by challenging, as senator feinstein did, her religious views and whether she could set aside dogma, that was feinste feinstein's word, to be a proper judge which was offensive to a lot of people and should have been to a lot of people. so there is a danger of overreach where i'm sure the president would politically like to lure democrats into this nomination. he said he would like to nominate a woman and that politically that could speak a lot of different issues that the president has personally and his standing among women because of his past behavior. also because of the issue of roe v. wade.

there is not a lot of impulsivity. he said he wants a president who is pro-life, that breaks with decorum and how the president talks about movement ideologues, in this case conservatives, be but this is an area where the president says i don't know a lot about this, i can rely on the movement conservatives. this is how i keep conservatives who don't like me. the issue, the supreme court, whether the business interests, the regulatory state, or social issues will determine their vote so this is an area of politics where the president haas a real opportunity to consolidate the party. >> john, isn't it so interesting that a majority pro life supreme court and congress -- at least the republicans in congress -- is so out of step with where

americans are. here's the latest polling, you've been bringing it up all the time. 67% of the country, across all partisan stripes, do not want to see roe v. wade overturned. >> 67% of the country but also if you look at the breakdown from the kaiser family foundation it get mrs. extraordinary. you have not only a supermajority of democrats but 73% of independents -- >> they're saying your mic is dead. did you turn off -- >> i turned it off. >> oh, my gosh! >> sabotage! >> i really want to talk more. >> but the polls speak for themselves. >> we've heard enough of john. >> the polls speak for itself which is that a majority of americans support roe v. wade. >> but 43% of republicans. and that's what's stunning to me. as allison just pointed out, there are no pro-choice republicans left in the house of representatives. that is 43% of republicans unrepresented virtually by their

congressional majority. so that's significant and it speaks to the uphill climb. when republicans decry legislating from the bench, they mean liberal. they don't mean conservative ideology because the process has become deeply politicized with certain litmus test issues. >> and the thing i find frustrating about supreme court discussions is that we discuss things like conservative, liberal. what does it mean in the real world. does it mean that abortion will be illegal in a dozen states? does it mean that gay people can be excluded from restaurants, hotels, bakeries because they are gay? does it mean that universities can't consider race in admissions? does it mean second amendment bars any state from banning bump stacks, ban magazine guns? these are the issues that will be talked about and decided. >> jeffrey, you think these could be decided in a certain way? >> absolutely.

clarence thomas is, in effect, the model for all of these judges. this is the last view of how a judge behaved or ruled. this is -- and if you look at thomas' opinions on abortion, on affirmative action, on the second amendment, on gay rights, these are the positions that will be ascendant at the supreme court and all i care about is that we should have a debate about what's the going on here, not pretend that something else is happening. 2k5i6d? >> jeffrey, isn't it fair to say, there's nothing wrong with what you're saying, i just don't think it includes everything, which is the possibility that you may not be right on these issues. that there is some fidelity to precedent. that the supreme court as a body does look at public opinion on issues like abortion and that that could sway the day. i mentioned in this the last hour, john roberts certainly earned the condemnation of his

fellow movement conservatives when he sided with the administration on obamacare. so these are possibilities and it's true -- >> i don't think i heard you correctly. did you suggest i might not be right about something? >> in your face. so stunned. >> impossible. >> i do not say that lightly. i do not say that lightly, by the way. >> you have a right to a rebuttal. >> david is right, of course, you can't predict with 100% -- >> you just caved? >> i like david. he's working so hard there in nantucket. >> oh, the undisclosed location! >> i grieve for him. i just want to be nice to him. but you know, you can't predict with 100% certainty but you can come pretty close. >> on that note, we'll go before david has a chance to respond. >> he has an important tennis match he has to get to.

david, thank you. >> we had a chance to tell you about the breaking news. we heard moments ago from thailand there could be a rescue attempt as soon as tonight to free these 12 soccer players and their coach from this cave where they've been trapped for ten days. this would be a remarkable development. we'll have someone who is very close to the divers speak to us next. it can grow out of control, disrupting business and taking on a life of its own.

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we are following breaking news. the eyes of the world are on thailand and the desperate efforts to save these 12 young soccer players and their coach. they have been trapped for ten days in this cave in thailand. so rescuers, we've just gotten word, are going to try to get them out sooner than expected from thousands of feet underground. it's a very risky operation and we have cnn's anon the ground a the rescue scene. what have you learned? >> there is a sense of urgency to get these 12 boys and their coach out. something has changed. we've heard from the deputy governor of the province and he said if they can, if it's appropriate and if it's not going to risk the boys' safety they will get them out tonight.

they will at least start getting them out tonight. that is stunning considering authorities earlier today were telling us that they are prepared to ship in four months supply of food. but to talk about this further, let's bring in u.s. air force captain jessica tate. she's been here for the last six days with the meamericans. jessica, how did you feel when you found out those buy boys we still alive? >> it was like out of a movie. we've been working so hard, side by side with our thai partners and to see such a beautiful positive outcome i don't know. i have no words. >> do you feel the sense of urgency they want to get the boys out as soon as possible.

>> everybody has been working around the clock since the boys have been missing but you have that sense that, hey, they're alive. we're providing that assistance and what i'm seeing in this thai-led multinational rescue operation is a real coming together of the ideas that are best going to be able to serve this distraction because when you think about it, you know, it has to be done safely. >> of course. their safety is paramount. tell us what have your colleagues been telling you about the conditions inside the cave when they've gone in. >> so obviously the conditions in the cave, they're ever changing. but everyone is working so hard to be able to mitigate the risk and find the best possible solution to access the children as well as provide that assistance. >> and the blackness, the darkness. and particularly for these kids aged 11 to 16.

>> i'm thinking about the psychological aspect, when i see the fact that this has been nine day, that takes a will to live and a mental resiliency and it's beautiful to see. but when i see all of thailand come together here, truthfully, you have medics, volunteer workers, you have government official officials it was literally a celebration of humanity. of humanity. how many good news stories are you able to report on? >> they are rare these days. captain jessica tait, great to get your perspective. it could be a fascinating 24 to 48 hours ahead. >> anna coren, please keep us posted. you are getting the freshest

information on the ground. >> joining us is bill white house, a vice chairman of the british rescue team that located the children trapped in that cave. bill, thanks so much for joining us. the breaking news is there could be an attempt as soon as tonight to get those children and their coach out of that cave. they reached just yesterday. now they may try to get them out. is that surprising to you based on what you heard from your divers? >> no. there are conflicting issues here. there are big risks in accomplishing them out. they're obviously intending to dive them out in some form. the big problem is if the weather breaks and the water comes up and diving conditions revert to what they were like last week, it might make diving impossible with zero visibility, fast currents, and much longer dives. so there is a launch window to

do something before it starts raining again. they're in monsoon season. once it starts raining again, the caves could become seriously flooded for months. that's why they were obviously thinking about earlier of getting in supplies for several months. to get them out, i don't know how they'll do it. there was talk about training them to dive. that seems to be a long shot in the time available but what they might be able to do is take supplies in. can they bring the children out as inert packages as opposed to them trying to swim themselves? in other words, if they were given breathing apparatus and they've been trying to get hold of full face masks which are easier and safer for non-divers to use, if they can fit them with those and with air bottles and perhaps restrain them so that they can't move and

struggle, get the weight balance right so they aren't getting trapped against the roof or obstructions and so forth and then literally propel them out. >> bill, you gave us an enormous amount of information that i want to make sure sinks into our viewers. number one, one issue is they may want to get this done quickly because it might be their last best chance for a long time to dive them out because more rain could make it all but impossible to swim out over the next weeks, maybe even months so they could be racing against the clock in that sense. number two, you gave us good imagery of why it's so difficult to swim them out. i understand it was a three-hour round trip for your divers. you described it as gnarly. what do you mean? >> yes. sort of slang term, a bit hairy. a bit difficult with problems.

worrying times whilst they were going because they were having to get through various blockages, they might be getting caught on things and having to free themselves so, yeah. >> and remember, these kids haven't eaten for ten days until just now and to ask them to do something they've never done before which is to dive out in a very complicated situation, that is something i think they would want to avoid which is why you're suggesting perhaps carrying them out. do you feel there's the space, the physical space to do that? >> i'm not there and i want to know something about the cave. i've never been there and i don't know the details. so i don't know what constrictions there are that might be a problem for that but if they can package them in a streamlined way and push and pull them through underwater, it will be -- it's a big ask for

divers doing that. it's a big ask psychologically for the children but one has to ask one's self what are the other options. >> that is the issue here. who knows what could happen if they were forced to stay underground for weeks if not months. it was a three-hour round trip so you're talking about an hour or so or more one way for a novice diver even if they are not calling on you to swim, per se, even if you are inert with a breathing apparatus, how difficult would that be? >> it wouldn't be easy although i gather it's not a completely submerged passage all the way. the news from the divers who got through to them is that whilst the flooded passages are about 1500 meters in total, only about half of them are totally

submerge sd so you might be abl to get them through in stages, through one air bell to another one. i'm guessing that would be a -- what might be spopossible. so it might not be one dive. they might be able to move them through, a bit of a respite and move them again. >> such a complicated situation, three kilometers into the caves, a kilometer underground per se and they could be racing against time with fears that more rain could be coming, which is why they may feel there is a need to try to get them out even though it would be dramatic and difficult. bill whitehouse, thank you for your expertise, we appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you. >> john, obviously we'll stay on that story and follow the breaking developments. meanwhile, why did michael cohen break his silence yesterday? what does it mean for president trump? that's next. ♪ when you're crafting performance,

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the president's self-proclaimed fixer michael cohen once said he would "take a bullet for donald trump." now in an interview with abc news, cohen is making it clear

his loyalty is to his country and family first, not president trump. joining me now is attorney for stormy daniels, michael avenatti. michael, thanks for waking up early for us west coast time. there seem to be three theories about what michael cohen is doing. number one, sending a message to prosecutors that he's ready to deal. number two, sending a message to president trump that hey, you better help pay my legal bills, maybe think about pardoning me else i might sing. option three is an interesting one, that maybe michael cohen wants to break out of the cocoon, talk to somebody and tell a story in his own terms. what do you see? >> i'm going to go with options two and three. certainly not option one. >> i think this interview with in large part a big nothing burger. i think he's playing games with the american people. it's clear to me that michael cohen's loyalty still lie with the president. if he wanted to come clean about what he knows and has on the president, there's nothing stopping him from doing it right now if his intentions were pure.

if you want to be a hero and if you classify yourself as a patriot under the circumstancs s and that's what michael is getting the american people to attempt to believe you don't wait to be indicted, you don't wait to find out what the charges are. you do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing and it as that simple. >> let me ask you this, though. he is severing the joint legal defense that he has had with the president's personal lawyers, his new lawyer is working on that. isn't that significant? we saw that similar to michael flynn cop aping a plea. >> that's been misreported in the press repeatedly. that agreement was only going to be in place during the time period they were reviewing the documents for the sake of privilege so there's been no overt severing of that agreement and i think people are reading far too much into that. the fact remains there's nothing to indicate, john, that michael

cohen is anything but loyal to this president and i think he's trying to pay lip service to this concept of patriotism and love of country. >> so you keep saying -- and i've seen you in other interviews as well -- that michael cohen has something on the president that you think he should call prosecutors and reveal what that is. is this in your case information about stormy daniels and the money that was paid to stormy daniels to keep her quiet or do you feel michael cohen haas other information prosecutors might be interested in. >> i think he has a host of information including relating to the payment to my client as well as a number of other issues and there's nothing stopping them from disclosing that publicly. >> you can see how visibility as it pertains to the stormy daniels case but do you know for sure there are other issues michael cohen has information on or is this just the type of thing we've been seeing in the papers? >> john, i know this isn't rampant speculation and i'll

remind you that i was the one that released the information relating to the payments fr. >> you were, so what areas specifically do you think federal prosecutors -- again, because you see more of this than we do, might be interested when it comes to possible connections between michael cohen and the president? >> i think there's a number of areas including payments to other women. i think there are issues relating to other business dealings that the president had in the 10 to 12 years that michael cohen served as his personal attorney. i think there's a mered you of issues and problems that michael cohen is aware of that could pose significant issues with the president. if michael cohen wants to believe he could be a hero and a patriot and good guy and not a villain he needs to come clean

now. >> while we have you, you have more clients now beyond just stormy daniels. you always have but one is john melendez, stuttering john, who was able to get a call returned by the president from air force one over the last several days. what's the status of stuttering john? has the secret service reached out to talk to him yet? >> well, first of all, john contacted me on friday, asked me to take on the representation, i told him i would think about it and to let me know if anything transpired. the secret service evidently showed up at his door seeking to interview him. he contacted me on sunday and i agreed to take on the representation which i don't think is going to take a lot of time, truth be told. the secret service wants to interview him. i'm in the process of getting to the bottom of exactly what happened and how the president could allow such a security breach. this is a president talks about tough security and protecting america, he can't even protect his own phone line. it's a joke.

so we're determining whether john will sit down with the secret service and what the next steps are. my hope, john, is that this goes away and the president doesn't allow his ego to go after the guy that played a prank on him and he should admit he got played. >> michael avenatti, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> now to the other top story we've been following all day. when will the 2,000 children separated from their parents at the border be reunited and how will this happen? we'll try to find out next.

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the trump administration has three weeks to reunite children with their parents who were separated at the border but the department of health and human services refuses to say how many separated children are in their custody or what this process will be. joining us is rick santorum, a senior political commentator and former republican senator from pennsylvania. rick, great to have you. you understand how the federal government works. do you have any faith that these 2000 plus children will be reunited with their parents?

>> eventually they will but there are a lot of complicated circumstances. you have the flores settlement agreement which says you can't detain children with their parents for longer than a 20-day period so there is -- just housing situation how do you -- enough for families to live together in that setting where children are in places where they're safe and being taken care of -- >> how would on, i want to check that. some are in foster care. some were transported to new york city and new york state thousands of miles where where they last saw their parents. we don't know if there's a process that's tracking them. in fact, we've heard there is no tracking mechanism and the governor of new york doesn't know where these kids are or who they are or how they will be restored so i don't hear the process by which this is going to happen.

>> look, i don't think the trump administration has handled this particularly well. there's no question there are a lot of unanswered questions. the secretary is trying to manage the situation but the reality is that, you know, there are legal impediments in place for the trump administration to reunite these families -- >> old on, there aren't legal impediments, there are logistical impediments. legal they they didn't have to separate the families and they can reunite them. they don't know how. >> that's a broader question, legally did they have to separate them? no, but if they don't and they release them, which is the alternative because there is a settlement agreement in place that you can't detain them then you have a policy we've had which is a catch-and-release policy which says to everybody that comes across the border if you have a child you'll get into this country and the administration said we won't continue that policy so -- >> hold on, rick -- >> there are policy reasons. >> i want to check things you're saying individually.

we just had the former director of i.c.e. on who said one of the things they could have done was speed up the court docket. they could have put resources into ensaid the of separating children, they could have put resources into the court docket and sped up the process so the catch-and-release thing wasn't what it had been under president oba obama. but here we are today -- >> i agree. they should have done that. >> the last numbers that we had were that it was 2000 plus. and they're not even telling us the numbers because it seems like they don't know do you know of a process whereby the parents will ever see their children again? >> the answer to that question is some parents will and some won't because some parents have been deported. as we know. >> just get your head around that. these parents don't know where their kiss are. can you imagine not knowing where your kids are?

>> well, i understand that. but let's just -- the parents are not blameless in this situation. the parents came across the border illegally and knowing full well that they were putting their children and themselves in jeopardy -- >> not really, rick, some of them were asylum seekers. some were asylum seekers. that's legal. >> asylum seekers are not separated. >> yes. they are. yes, they are, rick. >> no, they're not. >> yes, they are. >> if you come to the border and make an appeal for asylum you are not separated from your children. >> rick, i wish that were true. they have been separated. here's the "l.a. times," they have sent reporters to do the digging that the trump administration is not doing and not wanting us to know, here it is. this was yesterday. the practice of separating families appears to have begun accelerating last year, long before zero tolerance was announced in the spring. among these cases, according to records and interviews, there are many that happened at ports of entry. they weren't coming across just randomly, these were at ports of entry. court filings describe numerous cases in recent months in which

families were separated after presenting themselves at a port of entry to ask for asylum. they did it to everyone. this was a zero-tolerance policy, rick. it was even for asylum seekers. >> well, i don't know what about. i can tell you what the administration's policy is with respect to its sle applications. whether that policy was followed on the ground, that's a problem. >> it wasn't. >> well, again, that's a problem with enforcement, not a problem with the policy. >> it was a zero tolerance policy. it was stated as that. we've heard john kelly say that, we've heard stephen miller say that. it was a zero tolerance policy. everybody would be separated from their children. that's zero tolerance. it was supposed to be a deterrent and it has blown up into this, you know, human crisi crisis. >> there's no doubt it's blown up to a human crisis and the media has reported on that in

many ways but the media doesn't report on the human crisis of children coming to the borer themselves. the fact is most of these folks are coming from central america, not mexico and they made a 2,000 miles through mexico, they had to cross the mexican border, which is no picnic so the idea that putting these children in detention is the worst thing that's happened to them, i'm not sure that is necessarily the case. these kids have been traum tid d -- traumatized a lot. >> yes, they were willing to risk their life to get here. rick, always appreciate getting your perspective. thank you very much. john? mounting ethical scandals for scott pruitt. new ones -- i mean new ones out just overnight. his calendar, did he have people at the epa scrub it to remove records and evidence of controversial meetings?

the new questions surrounding epa administrator scott pruitt -- new ones on top of the old ones scrolling behind me on a continuous loop. pruitt is already the subject of 14 probes into ethical violations and now we add one more. cnn learned pruitt kept calendars to hide controversial meetings from the public according to an epa whistle-blower who says pruitt directed his staff to scrub his official schedule, which could violate federal law. our senior investigative correspondent drew griffith has more. >> reporter: this epa whistle-blower says scott pruitt and his staff kept secret calendars or schedules detailing meetings with industry representatives that have never been made public. according to kevin chimalewskie, his deputy chief of staff, a secret calendar containing the actual events was printed out

then staff would gather around the table, determine which events would be kept off, which kept on and which would be altered. he says it was often done in pruitt's office and under his direction. >> scrubbed? >> scrubbed, yes, sir. >> of the official epa administrator schedule? >> absolutely, which happened quite a bit. >> reporter: cnn found more than two dozen meetings, events or calls left off pruitt's publicly-released calendar which is only released weeks after the events occur. what's missing? meetings with energy industry officials, lawyers, washington insiders who could potentially benefit from a friendlier epa. so he would meet with industry lobbyists, somebody from industry itself and decide later that wouldn't look good so scrub it off the calendar? >> sometimes later, even before we would put on the schedule "meeting with staff" that was the default button. >> reporter: want examples? internal e-mails show in april,

2017, pruitt has a briefing and attends a dinner at trump international hotel with coal company executive joseph pratt. it's not listed on the public epa calendar september, 2017, the official schedule shows pruitt met with former senator turned energy industry lobbyist trent lott but left off the meeting including the ceo of a shipping company and the discussion of ships and their fuel source. in october, 2017, a staff briefing appeared on pruitt's official calendar. e-mails show the meeting was with private attorneys representing a water district over a superfund site. >> we had three different schedules, one of them was one that no one else saw besides three or four of us. >> reporter: two government experts tell cnn altering, sanitizing official government records to protect the boss could lead to legal trouble. >> if somebody changed, deleted,

scrubbed a ral record with tfed the intent to deceive it could be a violation of federal law. >> reporter: the most controversial deletion of all came after pruitt's $120,000 taxpayer-funded trip to rome in june, 2017. that trip included extensive interaction with catholic cardinal george fell who was charged with multiple historical charges of sexual offenses a few weeks later to which pell pleaded not guilty but this itinerary shows a tour with cardinal pell. it as not on pruitt's official calendar. also missing, a lunch with cardinal pell. >> all of our time at the vatican was spent with cardinal pell. he was our host. >> reporter: none of those tours, dinners and lunches appeared later when scott pruitt released his official calendar.

chmieleewski says that was intentional. he says he was fired from the epa after raising questions about scott pruitt's extravagant spending. he supports donald trump and donald trump's pledge to drain the d.c. swamp. he says keeping pruitt at the epa makes no sense. >> right is right, wrong is wrong and what he's doing is completely wrong. >> reporter: cnn reached out to epa multiple times seeking comment for this report. scott pruitt and his staff have chosen not to respond. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >> that spells it out in one piece, how does scott pruitt survi survive. how does pruitt survive these

scandals? david chalian, surely there is someone else qualified to dismantle the environmental regulations that president trump could pick the lead the epa how is scott pruitt surviving? the reason he's been able to survive is he is implementing and executing on a policy prescription that very much matches donald trump and a lot of his supporters' agenda. so he's following through day to day with accomplishing the roleback of regulations as you say. what it does, though, of course, is it pits it against this pledge to drain the swamp so you have the swampiest of swamp creatures apparently we're learning more and more each day that he is that. he is achieving a policy that the president wants to see implemented. >> this is so far beyond the swamp. it's like a tsunami meets a

swamp. it's a swampnami. >> is there spelunking? >> you watch the drew piece, there are questions of the law here. eventually the law is going to catch up to scott pruitt. if they're scrubbing the calendar, that appears to be a violation of the law. and there are witnesses and whistle-blowers, including that man in that piece, john, it was so remarkable who is a make america great again guy. a big donald trump supporter. >> big time. the fact so many former staffers are turning against him is an indication of how bad it is behind the scenes. what's most damning about the recent allegations is that the schedule is being changed to hide meetings with lobbyists and industry leaders who he is paid by taxpayers to regulate. it's not just about ideological agenda. he's being protected by an industry that benefits from his action actions and who he seems to be trying to hide his meetings with. that is a sign of something

going wrong behind the scenes. >> and at his direction. at his direction. >> that's right. >> david, remember how upset republicans were when they found out that hillary clinton wiped her -- someone, a technician, wiped hillary clinton's server? but scrubbing a calendar, are republicans speaking out against scott pruitt? is there a groundswell? >> not many i have that heard from. no groundswell at all. it is true that cabinet secretaries from both republican and democratic administrations have both a full complete moment-to-moment schedule and a public schedule. that in and of itself is not very abnormal practice. what is abnormal is what john was just getting at, which is that at the administrator's direction it is being scrubbed to hide from public view speesk me -- specific meetings that seem to be hiding to benefit industry. so that seems a bit more outrageous. >> turns out when you are hiding

something, it looks like you have something to hide. >> right. >> you can quote him on. >> that go figure. go figure. david chalian, thanks very much. that's all for us. cnn newsroom with erica hill picks up right after a quick break. yes. it's a targeted medicine proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, and lower oral steroid use. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. fasenra™ is designed to work with the body to target and remove eosinophils. fasenra™ is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with severe eosinophilic asthma. don't use fasenra™ for sudden breathing problems or other problems caused by eosinophils. fasenra™ may cause headache, sore throat, and allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens or if you have a parasitic infection.

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in today for poppy, still no word from the trump administration on how many migrant children remain in government custody separated from their parents. also no word on any plan or process in place to reunite those family as a federal court demanded. this morning the president is speaking out on the border and ms-13 and immigration and customs enforcement i.c.e. which he calls tougher and smarter than these rough criminal elements that bad immigration laws allow in our country. in a flurry of pronouncements, the president touting the economy, trashing democrats, taking credit for the u.s. not being at war with north korea. as for his own poor decision on supreme court pick he says the candidate he is met with is very impressive and the big reveal set for monday, july 9. abby phillips joins us with the latest. good morning. >> good morning, erica. the search for the president's next supreme court pick is heating up. less than a