you're live in the cnn newsroom. i'm ana cabrera in new york np president trump coming off several days of helsinki fallout. secret tapes about center fold hush money. who knew what about the infamous trump tower meeting. michael cohen trump's former lawyer saying the president knew ahead of time balance the headaches for the president against news that the american economy is soaring. and that's the kind of roller the white house rode this week. boris sanchez is it in new jersey near the president's golf course. this is called by our analyst the week that michael cohen officially declared war on donald trump. to do officials see it that way. >> according to the president's attorney, rudy giuliani, he foresaw michael cohen doing something like this, saying he was expect being this of the

president's former attorney. know that does contradict what we have heard previously from rudy giuliani. he had previously said that michael cohen was an horpable man. it wasn't that long ago president trump defended him on fwirt as well. really the turn around from the president and his team on michael cohen has been dramatic. and i really want to play two sound bites that illustrate that point. this is rudy giuliani a couple months ago and then this week talking about michael cohen. listen to this. >> he doesn't have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest,en honorable low zbloon i expected something like this from doughen. he has been lying for years, i mean -- >> now just yesterday president trump suggested on twitter that michael cohen potentially was making up stories in order to lessen his legal woes, the president suggesting those may be tied to michael cohen's taxi

business. administration officials hope the president doesn't continue wading into the russia investigation. sources told cnn that aides try to keep the president busy, trying to keep him on the road and focused on the economic message. this week the president touted a strong economic numbers and the trade deal announced with the eu. it appears though that the president is not going to let this go as the russia investigation and the questions that linger around it will be a cloud over this administration. ana. >> boris sanchez, thank you. before the spoke to former defense secretary and cia director michael panetta about cohen's claim about trump knowing about the meeting as well as the plans for the second summit between president trump and vladimir putin. here is the conversation. >> mr. secretary always good to have you with us. i want to tap into your experience working in the white house. when you look at this week's headlines, the new claim that the president of the united

states had knowledge of and approved of accepting russian help during the campaign, how does this affect the work of this administration? >> well, it raises obviously a lot of issues about just exactly what -- what that relationship was, what kind of assistance obviously was provided directly to the campaign. those are issues obviously that bob mueller is considering in his investigation. and i'm sure he is going to be looking very closely at those issues, because they relate to the whole question of whether or not there was any collusion between the trump campaign or the president himself and the russians. >> the ongoing questions about the president's connections to russia, now we have russian president vladimir putin saying he is ready to go to washington. he invited president trump to moscow. but there has to be, quote, necessary conditions.

what's your reaction to that? >> well, the concern is that this last summit in helsinki was about as close as you could get to a foreign policy disaster, because the president throughout that trip obviously made, i believe, some serious mistakes. he criticized nato. he criticized great britain. he criticized germany. he said that the eu was our foe. and then at the summit at this very private meeting, to which we really still don't know what went on, he then had a press conference at which he said he trusted the russians more than he trusted our own intelligence agencies with regards to the issue of interference in our elections. there is just a lot of questions that were raised by that summit that i think need to be answered before there is another meeting.

>> which questions? >> i think the question is, what exactly did they discuss on one and one. the reality is that secretary pompeo himself did not really answer that question. and what we have heard is largely from the russians as to what went on in that meeting. and i think it's very important, particularly for the president of the united states to did he brief at least the chairman of the joint chief of staff as to what was discussed and what decisions if any were made. i mean, it is incredible to have a meeting with the president and our chief adversary russia, and not have some sense of what was discussed >> mike pompeo, the secretary of state, as you mentioned, says he has spoken with the president about what was discussed. listen. >> has the president told you what he and president putin

discussed in their two-hour closed-door meeting. >> presidents have a prerogative to kmoos who is meeting or not. i'm confident you've had private one union on one. >> i just asked a simple question. >> i just. >> can't he wanted eat up myself minutes. >> the president disclosed what he said to vladimir putin about russian interference in our elections. and he said that he is confident that as a result of that conversation vladimir understands that it won't be tolerated. >> secretary panetta, do you believe he truly knows what was discussed? >> no, i don't. i think the fact that -- that the president and putin met alone, that only the two of them obviously plus the interpreters to some extent but the two of them know what went on in the meeting. even secretary pompeo himself in that response did not indicate that he had been fully briefed about all of the areas that had

been covered in that discussion. >> it has been one year since john kelly took over as president trump's chief of staff and cnn's latest reporting is that he has become a shadow of dominant figure he once was. a source saying kelly has been sidelined from big decisions and that kelly still doesn't read twitter unless shown one of the president's messages and is it still doesn't watch the television. gazing instead at the large lincoln portrait he had hung in his office. pure you were a chief of staff would you have resigned by now. >> that's a question every chief of staff has to respond based on their own instincts of right and wrong. i know john kelly. he served me as my military aide when i was secretary of defense. he is a good man. i think he tried to put in place some degree of discipline, some kind of order in terms of a

chain of command, some kind of a better approach to policy development within the white house. i think the biggest problem is that he is working for a president who is very difficult to discipline, who doesn't accept discipline, had who thinks he should operate on his gut indistinct and doesn't want to accept the advise of others, doesn't want to accept any kind of the traditions or rules that guided past presidents. >> why would kelly want to stay in that position non. >> i think john kelly is a marine. he is committed to service of this country. i think he -- he believes that his presence at least provides some degree of discipline in an otherwise chaotic presidency. he is not -- obviously his relationship with the president will determine whether he should stay or not. if he has lost the trust of the president, then obviously that would impact on his ability to do the job of chief of staff.

whether that's happened or not is an issue between john kelly and the president. >> earlier this week, the president the threatened to revoke the security clearances of former government officials who have been very critical of his policies, among them former cia director john brennan and general michael hayden. former dni james clapper. form secretary susan rice. and james comey who doesn't have a clearance anymore. what's your gut reaction to all of that? >> i -- i think it's against the basic values we protect in in country with regards to the ability of people to enjoy free speech and to say what they think. that's the strength of america. and to have a president be offended by those kinds of comments and then try to retaliate by taking in re

security clearances away from them, i think it's an abuse of his power. i think this president like past presidents has to be big enough to be able to take those that disagree with him to understand that there is going to be criticisms about the things he does, and to be -- and to continue to do what he might believe is right for the country. that's -- that's the nature of our democracy. and i think he weakens our democracy when he threatens to do something like taking away the security clearances of those that have been critical to him. >> secretary leon panetta, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, small children among the missing now after a wildfire explodes in california leaving incredible destruction behind. >> i can't believe it's gone.

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the carr fire in northern california claimed at least two lives and nearly doubled in size. president trump approved an emergency declaration in the state. the fires are fueled by high temperatures, erratic winds, heavy vegetation. people are fleeing for their lives as their homes and neighborhoods burst into flames. two people dead, 500 structures destroyed. and since the fire exploded overnight nearly 81,000 acres have now burned. cnn's dan simon on the ground in california. we see the destruction behind you. fill us in. >> yes, the destruction is incredible. we were just driving along the main highway and came across this subdivision. this is keswick estates.

you can see there is nothing left. if you look from above it gives you sort of the the appreciation of the scope of just one neighborhood. and there are several neighborhoods that have been devastatesed. and there is nothing left. this is also the commune where three people went missing, a grandmother and her -- and two young children. and so we are still waiting to get confirmation as to what may have happened to them. . but it's just an unfortunate situation at this point. there are two people confirmed dead, two firefighters. and unfortunately in terms of the overall fire the weather conditions are just terrible. triple digit temperatures today. supposed to get windy tonight, this area still under a red flag warning. so it's possible there could be even more destruction. they're still evacuating communities. we have to see what happens this evening. that's when the conditions get bad ana. >> dan simon we know you will stay on top of it. coming up echos.

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lights are flashing. all americans of all parties must denounce this even if trump won't. this comes as the president convened the first security meeting. anden alex marquardt reports not much came out of it. >> facing growing criticism he hasn't focus ds on the election cybersecurity threat the president met with the security team in the white house situation room to discuss election interference. so far the administration vague on the details. >> just rest assured there are actions under way to protect our -- our elections or to expose any external -- any by anybody external efforts to influence the american public, to show false news, that sort of thing. >> it comes as missouri senator clair mccaskill accusing russian operatives of trying to hack into her office. saying while the attack isn't

successful it's outrageous they can get away with it this. oop i've said it before and i'll say it again put isn't a thug and bully. >> mccaskill is one of the most vulnerable democrats. a senior microsoft confirmed that three 2018 candidates have been targeted by the same group of russian intelligence officers targeting democrats in 2016. >> they were all people because of their positions might have been interesting targets from an espionage standpoint as well as an election disruption standpoint. >> the hackers used fake microsoft pages and so-called fibering attacks. the company is on high alert for similar pages which they say they take down when discovers. it's the campaigns rather than the voting systems that are vulnerable targets. >> fact of the matter is that the campaign staff will never get to the level of the adversaries and stair them down. we are talk talking about the most sophisticated cyber operators in the world. russian intelligence. the iranians, north koreans.

>> the trump administration has come under fire for not announcing a comprehensive coordinated plan to thwart cyberthreats. >> i think it's an embarrassment that this white house has not made election security a top priority and has not put the kind of attention and focus on it that we need. >> in may, the cybercoordinator role on the national security councils was eliminated as top intelligence officials sounding the ararm. comparing the state of danks to the months before the 9/11 attacks. >> i'm here to say the warning lights are blinking red again. today the dlnl infrastructure serving this country is literally under attack. >> the department of homeland security oversees the defense of the country's voting infrastructure. but on ofstie it's less clear with the nsa fbi and military all taking leading roles. >> we really need more connective tissue between people gathering intelligence, people doing law enforcement, and people charged with protecting

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one of the most powerful men in entertainment. cbs president and ceo les moonves is the latest executive to face accusations of sexual

harassment. the allegations are part of an investigation by the new yorker. it details claims of six women claiming harassment, intimidation and retaliation. and i should say here cnn has not independently confirmed the allegations. and moonves denies them one of his accuseders, actress ileana douglas zriebld. here the excerpt from the new yorker account. in a mil second he has one arm over me pinning me moonves was violently kissing her holding her down on the couch with her arms above her head. the new yorker recounts a similar claim from writer janet jones during a work meeting. she case says he came around the corner of the table and threw himself on top of me far vast. ronan pharoh wrote the new yorker article and spoke with cnn. listen. >> they all continued to fear retaliation. janet jones, the writer you mentioned. describes him calling her afterwards and threatening her

and saying things appearing to be cliche but after a work meeting and amp the alleged assault are serious and frightening like you're never going to work again. and she and the other women were still frightened to come forward but said they did so because they wanted to expose what they feared was a culture of impunity that could protect other women if reversed. >> in a statement moonves says quote i recognize that there were times decades ago when i may have made some women uncomfortable by making advances. knows were mistakes. and i regret them immensely. but i always understood and respected and abided by the principal that no means no and i never misusedpy position to harm or hinder anyone's krer. superstar demi lovato still in a los angeles hospital after an apparent overdose sounded by family. cnn learned hess boyfriend is by her side. and we now have the 911 call from lovato's home that led to her hospitalization this we can. excuse me. you can hear one of lost of's

friends pleading with emergency responders, no sirens, please. this is the 4 1/2 minute call. >> i'll let you know when they're outside. you should hear the sirens soon. >> we -- no sirens, please, right? >> no, no, no, this is a medical emergency. i don't have control over that. i'm sorry about that. >> okay. i thought you were just saying we had to like wave the guys down. >> that's helpful. this is definitely a medical emergency for her. and they need to get there as fast as possible. >> we heard the sirens. >> you did. okay. good. good. >> there is still a lot we don't know about that call. and about the nature of this emergency. but let's talk it over with people tv anchor and popular culture commentator. lolo and what do we know and learned about what led up to the 911 call. >> people close to demi say she

has been spiraling more than a year. but things went to a fever pitch a few months ago. she separated with her team who is helpful in keeping her sober. but they decided enough was enough and decided to part ways with her and that's when things took a turn for the worse. >> do we know who made the 911 call. >> we have heard it's an assistant or someone close. they hoped no sirens would be there because they wanted to call as little attention to this matter as possible. unfortunately when you have someone unconscious, appears to have overdosed you have to do everything you can to get to them as quickly as possible. >> as far as the recovery? what's the plan? do you know? as you mentioned she is with friends and family. her exboyfriend remains one of her deerest friends. he has been there the past few day was her. the plan is to to get her to are rehab as quick as possible. she was in rehab to a face addiction, self-harm, cutting,

bulimia. she has battled with these things for years. she has been open about it. i interviewed her a few years ago and talked to me about her struggles. she talked about how she was bulled dwred as a child and when she would go to regular school the kids taunted her for being a celebrity. and they made her life a living hell and she dreaded going to school as a result. some of that pain, residual pain is there. but you also have to keep in mind that demi comes from a family that has bamgtsed addiction. her mother recently revealed in her memoir that she battled a xanax addiction. and she alleged that demi's father her late father also battled bipolar disorder but undiagnosed for years. and she was privy to abuse in the home. this is a girl who has been through a lot. but still managed to triumph overall. we were talking about how big a star she is. she has 70 million fans on

instagram alen. 70 million followers her hit song from 2017 sorry, not sorriry one of the biggest songs of the year. >> i love that. >> i love it too my treadmill song. more than 351 million views on youtube alen. that gives you a sense of how big a star she is. >> like you said knowing what she has overcome and also her openness to share that she is not a perfect person. >> no. >> has always drawn people toer had. i can only imagine how hard it would be to deal with addiction. deal with mental illness issues and then to do it in the spotlight like she has. and with the social pressure that comes with the role that she has in her career. i mean that has no add a layer of complication to all of this. and we know the lifestyle often times of the stars can't make it easy to deal and to cope with addiction issues or mental illness. >> i think you're completely 100% correct. and one of the difficulties that demi faced growing up is she is the breadwinner. her mother said was difficult to

manage dpi because she payed the family bills. that was one issue. and the other issue is this young girl dealing with bullying also dealing in addiction, seeing addiction in her family. that was a problem but also the pressure of being a role model. she would be the first to tell you she is not perfect. she sings about it. she even spoke about losing her sobriety if in her song sober. she is auto buy. biographical. it's exchangesly difficult when you do it before the world. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> for sharing with us. we of course wish demi the very best. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪

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people who know president trump, worked for his companies, even wrote books about him say there is one universal constant about this man that you can count on him to stretch the truth. even outright lie if it suits his situation. and that's not a new facet of donald trump's personality. here is cnn's chief igt political analyst gloria borger. >> from the election itself. >> in many places like california, the same person votes many times. you probably heard about that. they always like to say that's a conspiracy theory. not a conspiracy theory. millions and millions of people. >> to the inauguration. >> we had a massive field of people you saw that. it went all the way back to the washington monument. >> to statements like this. >> what you are seeing and what

you are read something not what's happening. >> donald trump has had a fraught relationship with the truth one going back decades. to the building and selling of trump tower where barbara rez manage the construction. >> he planted the that priness di was looking for an apartment in trump tower. >> that didn't happen. >> no. >> but it made the papers. >> sure. so veracity wasn't a part of it it was just getting the buzz out there. >> yes yb yes. >> did you guys laugh about it. there was nothing so terrible about it. it was kind of like puffing, exaggerating. >> tony schwartz co-author of trump's art of the deal has a name for this. >> i came one this phrase truthful hyperbowl. and innocent form of exaggeration now i can call something i sold for $2 million

i can say $10 million that's truthful hyperbole. the truth is there is such thing. the truth is a trougt. hyperably is a lie. >> they didn't go together during the opening of trump's atlantic city taj mahal casino when some of the slots didn't work. >> when the casino control commission went down there opening day to check out that all the things had been done, many things hadn't been done. she shut down a third of the slots. >> slots that were critical to the casino's success. >> the slots are the prime revenue producer of the casino. to shut down the third on opening day was financially disastrous. it's only done because he doesn't have an organization in depth. >> but that wasn't the story trump told. >> something could go bad like the opening of the taj, and he would say it's because we had so

much business here that this happened. not that the system is broke down not that we didn't know what we were doing. we had so much business it broke down. truly he would lie about everything. >> and did he. >> what about the slot machine thing where they were down for a while. >> the slots were so hot -- again nobody seeing people play that hard that fast. >> it blou them out. >> we had machines -- they were virtually on fire. >> donald is so wrapped up in hyperbole that it's almost constant lies whether the littlest things where if you had -- if you had 2000 people at an even, you know he would say there were 5,000 people at an event. >> and he got away with it. >> there is no belief system. if it will work i mr. say it. if it stops working i'll say the opposite and will not feel compunction about saying the opposite because i don't believe anything in the first place. >> switching gears is exactly what president trump had to do after the press conference with

vladimir putin. attempting to walk back this remark on election interference. >> my people came to me tp dan coats tame came to me and said they think it's russia. i have president putin he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> and a key sentence in my remarks i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence shufbl, i don't see any reason why i wouldn't or why it wouldn't be russia. >> seeing it from his perspective, doesn't make a distinction between what's true and what's false, he -- his only distinction is what will work and what will not work. >> and what happens when he is challenged with facts? what does he do. >> he has a genius -- perverse genius for turning any situation into something that is evidence

of his brilliance. even if it's not true. >> gloria borger, cnn, washington. i want to bring in our cnn political experts here with me now. they are "the new york times" politics editor, patrick heally and senior political correspondent for the washington examiner david druker. patrick, lying stretching the truth. this has worked for trump in business. so what if he has a little fib ear or there. do you think his voters care? >> i think most americans expect a level of honesty and directness from the president. but what republican voters who support trump have sort of bought into, what the president has been now saying for years, is that president media distorts everything. and that the media is against me, and that to support him means to, you know, basically whatever comes out of his mouth, even if the evidence is totally to the contrary, even if they could -- voters could see with

their own eyes something. >> even if he had on camera said one thing one day and you have the tape and he says i never said that. >> if you look at that tape of him saying the won and the wouldn't the nextdy. those of us covering trump for years that soundsed like his natural cadence. there was no reason to think he was pausing confused is he saying a double negative or not. the cleanup the next day was so hard to fathom. you wonder, does he believe that voters are frankly so gullible that they might just be willing to go along with whatever he says? >> david, at the end of the day, it does come down to what voters think at least in the political realm and the political future for these people. do you really think they care? >> i think they care in a global sense. if you ask any voter do you care if your politician tell you the truth they'll probably scream at you and say of course i do.

i'm so angry they've been lying for years. >> i ask that question in the context of look at the economic numbers we got yesterday and how well the economy is doing. another president once famously said, it's the economy stupid. >> right. i think when you then drill down and you look at in from a lower altitude, what you find is that voters expect some level of lying from their politicians. they think all of them spin and many lie when convenient. they don't look at this as somehow well trump is a liar butphobia else lies to me. they think everybody lies to them. ultimately while they wuld like politicians to tell the trougt and they would tell that you bothers you in general that they have been lied to in a campaign and then politicians get into office and don't fulfill the promiseplace. what they really want is a government that works and policies that deliver. i think that's one of the things that can work for trump,

especially with republcans. but even with independents in an election in 2020 friendships where it's going to be him versus another candidate and he can frame it as a choice. it can be, sure, i may have told you some things that were squirrely once in a while but about that economic growth and about the jobs, and about the fact that i delivered on xyz campaign promise, these are things that can work for him, especially, ana, bus the expectations for him from the beginning have been so low. and so much of how the public reacts to a politician is about what they expect. if they vote of you because they think you're moral it hurts. but when you they vote when you are immoral and you act immoral it doesn't diminish. >> you trump is honest often talking about the fake news that's a common term. but he went a step further listen to what he told a group

of veterans. >> and just remember what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening. just stick with us. don't believe the crap you see from these people. >> people immediately began drawing ties between what he said and george orwell's book 1984. the line from the bock reads this, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. it was their final most essential command. patrick, is this what orwell warned about. >> it is what he warned about. it's galling for the cht of the united states to basically tell americans don't believe what you see with your own eyes. i mean, what -- what kind of sort of moral leadership is that in what sort of integrity are you holding up with that? yes, to david's point early yerl and yours, a lot of americans right now think about right track and wrong track and they feel like you know we had -- we

are having economic growth that is really significant growth. you have 4.1% second quarter growth, you know on track for a very strong year. a lot of republicans certainly feel like the right track, you know, is here. and president trump is leading that way. but you know the question becomes this isn't just sort of little kind of white lies or sort of spinning here and there. it is you know the united states's democracy being under attack from the russian government and president trump being in a room standing next to vladimir putin being asked will you in front of the entire world you know denounce what russia is doing? and instead he sends a totally different signal. i think counting on voters in the mid-terms basically saying you know, i feel like we're on the right track. economic growth is going well. sort of the outrages that i feel might be cultural or identity but they're not great in terms of economy in erms it of foreign policy. and just the willingness -- it's hard to belief that people would

be willing to go along with that kind of let's say advice, you know, don't believe what you see with your own eyes. >> some people want to believe what they want to believe. and in this day and age all the different information avenues out there people find what they want to find often times. and this is a white house that really wants to control the message, control the narrative, david. in fact new white house communications chief bill shine tried to defend banning cnn kaitlan collins from an open press event saying it wasn't technically a ban. listen. >> this was the most laughable. >> listen. >> did you ask her if we are use the word ban? because i've seen it on lower thirds. >> did what word with you use bill. >> when you ask her if we ever used the word ban i will answer that question. >> you prohibited her. what's the word. >> you ask her focus now. you ask her if we ever used the word ban. see you guys later. >> okay.

i looked up ban in the these aur us. a few disallow, bar, block, stop, david. why the word many games new banned a reporter from covering an event. why not admit it. >> because i think that they like to play the games with us. and i think they like to spin up the press so that we become the story and that furthers the president's narrative especially with his supporters that he wants to keep engined up in a midterm election where it's harder for them to turn out when he is not on the ballot. that's part of everything. the other part i didn't mean to laugh over the clip there. the other part of in is that if we never believe as voters anything the media reports then whenever there is a negative story that could hurt the president it won't be believed. and it helps him keep his relationship with his voters secure. interestingly enough -- and i think this is really interesting about the don't believe what you hear and see -- this is also what you hear from supporters of the president who don't believe

that what he says and often what he appears to be doing isn't what is really happening. if you talk to a republican who is support every of the president's foreign policy and you question him let's say about the helsinki summit and about how he deals with russian meddling in the 2016 election, they'll say, no, actually the president has been tough on russia. look at his actions. don't listen to what the president says they will say look what he does. don't believe what he says because that's not really what is happening. this is all tied into coverage and analysis of this particular president. >> david druker, patrick healy got to leave it there thanks. >> thanks. >> coming up trump and kene and a war of words. two men with trouble telling the trougt. one of them is lying about the trump tower meeting in 2016. which one?

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