tv New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman CNN August 8, 2018 5:00am-6:01am PDT
welcome to nud"new day." too close to call and certainly way too close for comfort. way, way, too close for comfort for republican this is morning. a major warning side for them for the midterm elections. the marquee race in ohio, in what should be a strong republican red district, troy balderson is clinging this to razor thin lead over democrat danny o'connor. president trump won this district by double digits in 2016 but that was very much then. now the republican ahead just by 1700 volts with more than 8,000 ballots yesterday to be counted, an automatic recount could be triggered? >> another race too close to call, the battle for the republican nomination for governor of kansas. controversial secretary of state kris kobach who got a tweet of support from the president leads the incumbent governor jeff colyer by a fraction of a percentage point.
and in michigan. john james will face debbie stabenow. gretchen witmer prevailed over the more progressive candidate and this is celiseen as a sligh victory. she will face republican bill schuette. >> state attorney general josh hawley secured the gop nomination for the senate. he will face incumbent democrat claire mccaskell for a seat that republicans believe they can flip so let's bring back maggie haberman. how is this playing in the white house? too close to call but at the moment republicans seem to have hung on to at least ohio 12 that was so attention-getting. >> and because it is so narrow you're going to see the democrats and republicans claim a victory regardless of who wins
it will be spun in one direction or another. you saw that with the president's tweet where he immediately put out a tweet congratulating the republican even though it hasn't been called yet, it's not done and making sure to note he endorsed him recently and went to ohio over the weekend. i think the president is going to take that he still has some -- not still, he continues to have sway among republican voters. i mean, that is important for him because if that base starts to erode, he does have a problem but he has a polarizing effect that also stirs up democrats and that is what you saw also in that ohio race, particularly among suburban voters. those are the voters we believed in 2016 were going to thwart the president's ambitions to be president. they didn't, they ended up supporting him. this time around they seem like they are likelier to send the
republican party a message so while there are good signs if you are the white house about what the trump endorsement can mean, it's only within the republican party, not a general election. >> i spoke to the democrat in this race about an hour ago and i asked him about the president's claim that he swung the election to troy balderson and he scoffed at the notion. listen to what he said. >> i don't think he knows what he's talking about. you can fly in, hang out here for a couple hours, fly out. you don't walk on our roads. you don't have kids that go to our schools, you don't deal with the public health crisis with addiction that we have in our state effort. i think it's more important to have grass-roots conversations and try balderson can have all the people he wants fly in from d.c., i don't think it makes too much of a difference. >> maggie, i think you're right. i think the president is pleased with this result and believes he made a difference but the national republicans -- >> i don't know if he truly believes it or not but he's saying it. >> i think he believes he has
political -- >> i think there's enough evidence he feels like he can point it. >> he doesn't lack from self-confidence. national republicans look at this race and see the fact the president won by 11 points, now within one point. they look at this and see there are 68 races in this country, districts that are less republican than this one and national republicans are nervous. >> and they should be for the reason we just talked about. the negative polarization the president inspires among democrats and the fact that in the suburbs in particular there is going to be a problem for the republican brand. the president has been bad for it. he just has in those areas. the bottom has not fallen out clearly because if it had we'd be looking at a different result in ohio right now but it's cumbersome and problematic. in terms of the democratic primary results we saw last night there is a lot of energy the left, no question. but there's a question about how transferable what we saw in the new york race against joe crowley, how transferable that
is to other races in the midwest, elsewhere in the country. democrats are more united. they do have problems, fissures within their party but it's not quite so clear as this side that side and that creates a formula where democrats can hold their coalition. >> it's not one sized fits all in the democratic party. nor is it in the republican party. that's what i think people need to understand. alexandria ocasio-cortez won't work everywhere else. i fear we might be underselling the president's midas touch. when he picks a primary candidate, they generally win and look what happened in kansas can w kris kobach. he got the president's endorsement and he is at the moment in this razor thin win. >> and we don't know whether that will hold but i agree you have seen this president -- two things have happened. he has one after the pore gone against his advisers and made his own decision and he has more
often than not felt he's been vindicated. number two i agree it's not one size fits all but the republican party, because they are the party in power right now it's much mar referendum on the man in power and this is donald trump so consequently you see it flow from there. he has been able to show he is able to sway a large swath of republican voters and that matters. >> can i go back to what you were saying before about the timing of what the administration -- what rudy giuliani and the president's legal team might be trying to do. >> so long ago. >> it was four or five minutes ago we were discussing this. you suggested what rudy giuliani may be trying to do is to delay past the point where the mueller team won't issue a report prior to the midterms. i had thought or was wondering whether or not what the giuliani was try dog is get this question past the point where brett kavanaugh the confirmed as
supreme court because then if it goes to the supreme court they would have clear majority there but it's interesting they're thinking so short term, they want to delay this weeks. they're thinking in terms of days and weeks. >> i think they recognize -- and this is just my surmising from speaking to people that this has been going on for eight months in terms of a negotiation about whether the president is going to be interviewed, the mueller team has been ready to do this since december so i think there's a recognition that the window is closing. in terms of what would be reasonable. number two, i don't think this is about the supreme court nomination battle. i think that that is not going to be done in time, frankly. we're getting toward october. i think they don't anticipate -- we don't know what mueller is going to do, to be clear but there's reason to assume if you are the president's folks that there won't be a blunt recommendation for some kind of
a vote in congress, that it will be a report. i still think that's a report that if you are the president's folks and his party you don't want to see before the election and i think that's where they're coming from. whether that is responsible in terms of legal implications and electoral implications and what happened in 2016 is a different issue. if you are looking at this through the lens of what it means for donald trump which is how donald trump looks at it -- >> and rudy giuliani. >> well, that's his client. now to policy, stephen miller's, one of the president's top policy advisers is quite hard line on immigration and we continue to see his influence so stephen miller is pushing a policy now that immigrants who receive any government benefits -- welfare benefits -- would not be eligible for citizenship. >> i don't know that this is going to be able to be effective. it's hugely controversial. there is a subset within the republican electorate and the republican congress of people who are going to think that
sounds like a good way to saber rattle to please the base. there are a lot of other people who are going to be deeply offended by it. this is the latest policy that i think does make clear that for instance with the border separations you heard kirstjen nielsen the dhs secretary say over and over again this is not about asylum seekers. asylum seekers should go to points of entry and we will let them in. >> but even when they did that -- >> correct. so that was not true and what they have been trying to do is cut down on asylum seekers, which is legal and they have been moving against the law and now you are seeing them try to limit legal immigration in other ways. that's been the main goal this whole time and it was obscured by other things so this proposal puts it into stark relief but it's going to come with deep controversy. >> we'll see. anyone who's listened to stephen miller or read what he's written, there's no mystery where he stands on this issue or where it comes to the president. >> there is no mystery but he'll
say different things to different groups unlike phenomen stephen miller who has been consistent. >> there's something about electoral politics at play and we saw in the ohio 12 where where immigration became an issue that republicans want to run on. this could give some republicans in some districts an interesting issue to discuss. it's the idea that immigrants are now taking your taxpayer money. >> it feeds into there's been a larger concept that you have heard from people who criticize legal immigration trying to tether a restriction in immigration to wages. you have seen this over and other again and this is an offshoot of that because their argument is this makes it an economic issues. pro-immigration reform activists say that none of the data support this is, that if you look at it this is the opposite of what the true effect is of expanding immigration but yes, there are a group of people who -- particularly people who suffered during the recession who -- that argument would
resonate with. it does tell you the degree to which you are playing on the margins of trying to keep what could be a wave election that would not favor republicans from just being a total blowout. >> maggie haberman, fascinating. thank you very much for being here. >> i feel like maggie took a break for us. >> where have you been? >> i was on vacation with my family. >> how dare you? >> don't do that again. >> don't ever do that again. >> i'll think about that. >> thanks, maggie. how do trump voters feel about how he has handled russia and north korea? >> i will give him credit for meeting with kim jong-un because at that moment i was proud to be an american. >> no more rockets in the air. >> oh, really? >> they're not testing them. >> they're not and they've been dismantling them. >> all right, we'll get the pulse of the people and do fact checking during this feisty session next.
all right, the second part of the trump voter panel. we're 18 months into donald trump's presidency so we wanted to check in with how trump voters are filing after the president's one on one visits with kim jong-un and vladimir putin. these voters are from california, texas, ohio, and new york. as you'll see, they are no longer like-minded as they were on election day about donald trump, some say they regret
their vote or are deeply disappoint disappointed including one voter who resigned his gop in protest. here now, pulse of the people. how many of you, show of hands, were comfortable with the president's performance in helsink helsinki? three of you. what did you think when the president stood on stage and say he blamed america for many problems we have are with russia? >> i don't see him blaming all of us and you have to recognize that that's a loaded question right there. he is isn't blaming -- >> he's blaming our intelligence community -- >> let's listen. hold on, hold on. >> the intelligence community are out of control -- >> i have the transcript right here. let's play it right now so we're all on the same page. >> i hold both countries responsible. i think that the united states has been foolish. i think we've all been foolish. >> i blame both countries. you're comfortable with him
blaming the united states? >> the day that we put america on the same platform with russia is a very sad day for this nation. >> what bothers me more is that i think he's a suckup to vladimir putin because i think obviously that foundry has something on him. now whether it's something legal, helping him get elected, whatever it is, he has something on this guy so he's going to do whatever he can to include russia to make us on the same level. >> if you're going to say you believe russia has something on trump, given the language and the rhetoric around the mainstream media and given the copious amounts of leaks that we've received all throughout this administration, do you not think that if there was something that was detrimental to president trump's legitimacy or overall candidacy or if itness for often, do not think that would be leaked by now? we're two years into his term. >> no. that's not necessarily correct. these investigations take time. >> do you accept that the russians actually meddled and
interfered in the 2016 election as is the unanimous consideration? >> i recognize they've did it and they've done it before. >> to other countries. >> and that's fine. that's fine. so i'm that republican county chairman from ohio that resigned after the helsinki summit. so when the president in helsinki said putin denied it strongly and forcefully and he was in effect defending putin's denial, do you accept that at face value? >> i don't accept how you're characterizing it. what i see is a president who wants to establish strong relations with every country as possible -- >> here is what the president said. here is what the president said about vladimir putin so we can all hear it with our own ears. >> my people came to me, dan coats came to me and some others they said they think it's russia. i have president putin, rejust said it's not russia. i will say this -- i don't see any reason why it would be.
>> when i heard that at first i was shocked because i was like we cannot be operating on this claim just from a purely optical perspective but then when he came back later and offered a correction and would to wouldn't, now we can argue the semantics and however milquetoast that correction was -- >> did you believe him when you said he meant to say wouldn't? >> i believed him. >> you thought he misspoke? >> i did. >> to me it's saying i'm going to believe whatever putin said. >> i think it's important for our president to have strong relationships with everybody. >> he's weakening our alliances overseas. >> no, he hasn't. >> he did. he is. >> how is -- >> north korea -- >> hold on! >> time out. what is your evidence that he's denuclearized north korea? >> there's no more rockets in the air? >> oh, really. >> so, they're not testing them? >> they're not and they've been dismantling them. >> and you have evidence to that effect?
>> do you have evidence he's sending rockets -- >> yes, we do! >> pompeo testified they're still making fissionable material. >> i will give him credit for meeting kim jong-un because i was proud to be an american at that moment. i still -- i didn't like him. >> what did you like about it? >> i thought it was presidential when i saw him meet with kim jong-un i was very proud on something that nobody could have accomplished ever. >> i just feel his back and forth and the twitter tirades about every little criticism that maybe makes about him is upsetting coming from a leader that i -- he's the leader of the free world and he needs to act with more dignity. >> to see the president of the united states attacking individuals, to see the president of the united states have no sort of moral voice anymore in my estimation given his inability to frankly tell the truth on a consistent basis, that is terribly harmful i believe for america's standing
in the world, for the way that we interact with each other as citizens. >> i have never felt so free in my speech, in my faith in this country because we have our president donald trump. i have a champion in the white house today who is fighting against scourge that is ruining our country. >> if people want to change this country instead of bickering, go to the polls, vote him out and that's it. >> i thought that was an interesting point to end on. these are trump voters. i think his point was all the division, all of the fighting, let's stop that and take action. so which ever side you're on, off vote, you can take action at the polls and let's stop fighting between us. >> that was interesting. it's fascinating. we like to say foreign policy doesn't play in u.s. elections, it's all the economy stupid but you see the impact of foreign policy seeping into domestic view there is in two ways,
number one, the trump/putin summit. we have seen an impact domestically where democrats and republicans are looking at the president differently now since he stood side by side. >> as you saw personified in chris goeghan who resigned in's. the flip side is north korea where i think domestically in a political sense the north korea summit benefited the president because people looked at it and said sometimes the way he approaches things gets some results. in this case is result is a side by side with kim. but you see democrats and republicans pause and it might make them look at other things he does differently. >> and that he broke the mold. what jeremy was saying is the president broke the mold on north korea. but you also saw that just because the president says something like north korea is no longer a threat, some of his voters they have take that and run with it and bianca thought
north korea had denuclearized when all the evidence from our intel chiefs says that is the opposite. >> words matter. but it makes me wonder whether or not the white house will push for another meeting with kim before november if they think it will have some domestic political ramifications. >> thank you, john berman. >> thank you. that was interesting. the president says that bad environmental laws are to blame for california's fires. here's a live look at them right now. this is the holy fire burning at this moment. the president says the lack of water somehow responsible for the fact that they haven't put out. we're going to have an expert on water management to set the report straight. that's next.
we're following breaking news from northern california where crews continue to battle this mendocino complex fire, the large nest california's history. the blaze has grown to the size of los angeles but today firefighters are beginning to gain ground. dan simon is live in lakeport, california, with the latest. how are they getting hold of
this, dan? >> well, good morning. the fire has slowed down significantly but the numbers are mind-boggling. we're talking about 450 square miles that continues to be fueled by dry vegetation and high temperatures. in the meantime, this is one of 75 homes that has been destroyed. this has been a dream house for the homeowners. they said they did everything they could to protect it from a wildfire. they cleared the area of brush, they had a defensible driveway with gravel and rocks, all the things you're supposed to do but in their words the fire had another agenda, take a look. >> i can't imagine what it's like to go through this, what's the hardest thing? >> i just want to go home. yesterday when i arrived all the stucco was standing. everything else had burned but it was the stucco up and it was unstable and that was hard to see because you could tell where the staircase and everything was and it was like trying to
picture what our home was like. >> as you can imagine, there are so many people in the state grappling with similar emotions. we're talking about 17 major wildfires. 13,000 firefighters on the lines. more firefighters battling these blazings than at any point in california history. there are firefighters from as far away as australia and energize. the fire continues to burn in rugged areas and is 34% contained. the president is blaming what he calls bad environmental laws for california firefighters. he wrote governor jerry brown must allow free flow from the vast amounts of water coming from the north and being diverted to the pacific ocean, can be used for fires, farming and everything else. this is what the president wrote. think of california with plenty of water, nice, fast, federal government approvals. joining us now, one of
california's leading experts on water management and resources, the co-founder of the pacific institute, dr. peter glick. thanks so much for being with us. i want to focus on the statements the president made about water and not being properly utilized to fight these fires because when he made the statement people on the front lines reacted to us -- including people fighting the fires, with this huh? what's he talking about? do you have any sense? >> good morning, john. the president's comments were confused, they were confusing, they weren't helpful. they were basically ignorant about the reality on the ground. as we just heard, these fires are the worst in california's history but there's no shortage of water to fight fires, california has plenty of water for fighting fires and the reality is we don't use much
water. we build water breaks and use fire retardant. it's not a water issue. i think the president is confusing the science behind what's causing these intense fires and our very complex long history of fights over water resources. it's not been a helpful set of comments from him. >> and indeed, california and its entire history, water resources has been part and parcel of the development of the state but to put a fine point on this, these fires are taking place near large reservoirs, some of the biggest in the entire state. >> that's right. they're near whiskytown lake and shasta lake and clear lake. there's no shortage of water to deal with these fires and the president's comments ignore the reality on if ground which is that we know that climate change is playing a role. we know the high temperatures as we're experiencing as we heard
at the preview of this piece have played an enormous role. we know the severe drought california experienced was worsened by the reality of climate change and those are things the president either doesn't understand or is unfortunately ignoring. >> i think the fact that the white house will not defend or attempt to defend or explain the president's comments specifically about water tell you that that part of his statement is more or less from outer space politically and scientifically however there was something he said which i believe is closer to where there is a genuine debate here. he says must also tree clear to stop fire from spreading. what he's suggesting is something about forest management and the secretary of the interior ryan zinke wrote about this in an op-ed in "usa today." he says stop -- let me read it. radical environmentalists would have you believe that forest management means clear-cutting forests and national parks but their rhetoric could not be further from the truth. they make an outdated and
unscientific argument void of facts because they cannot defend the merits of their policy preferences year after year as our forests and homes burn to the ground. there are issues around forest management that are up for debate right now, doctor, yes? >> there certainly are. there are decades of conversations about how to best manage our forests and fires. we're coming off of almost a century of putting out furz rather than letting low level fires burn and that's built up the fuel load that's contributing to this problem. >> it would be great if the federal government would improve their forest management policies but that won't prevent these fires from happening, we have to address the way we develop land, the way bebuild our homes, the way we deal with in the long run the large-scale challenges associated with climate change and higher temperatures. all of those things are rolled up together and it would be great if the president offered something more than confusing information here. >> the headline, again, as we're
looking at video, biggest fire that california has ever seen, it doesn't sound like you're surprised by that. >> well we've seen a growing trend over time in the severity and intensity of these fires. this is clear evidence of the growing extreme events we ear seeing worldwide associated with human caused climate change but fires happen all the time. we have a long history of fires in the western united states but what we're seeing is unpres dent cedent ed we need to address the causes and the policies associated with them. >> dr. peter glick, pleasure to have you with us, appreciate it. >> thank you. there's been a gruesome find at this new mexico compound where 11 children were living in squaller. the details in a live report next.
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could remains that have also been found at that compound be that missing boy? cnn's scott mclean is live in new mexico with the latest. what a horror show, scott. >> absolutely. it's impossible to look at this compound and not have all kinds of questions, not only why would anybody want to live here but also what were they doing? you see these random construction materials strewn about. there's wiring, bottles, we found religious books, we found how to manuals and there are trenches and holes everywhere. there's even a tunnel that leads off the property. at the back of the compound there is also what looks to be a firing range and when police searched this area friday they found four pistols and an ar-15 but they didn't look that hard because the actual property owners did their own search and found more guns in this box truck. that is evidence, they say, of how police have bungled this case from the get-go.
last week, sheriff's deputies raided a remote new mexico compound where they found 11 malnourished children living inside of this squalid half-buried trailer with no power, no clean water and barely any food. but it was monday when they discovered the real horror. >> yesterday at 11:19 a.m. we did find the remains of a young boy. >> reporter: the body has yesterday to be identified. five adults have been charged with child abuse, one of them, siraj wahhaj, had a warrant out for his arrest in georgia. late last year, he disappeared with his then three-year-old son abdul bghani, leaving the boy's mother helpless. >> he needs his medication, he needs everything. i don't know if he's alive. >> reporter: the adults built the mess of wood, tarps and tires on someone else's land. the rightful land owners, jason and tanya badger, they say spoke directly with wahhaj and saw the young boy twice this winter.
in april, they discovered the boy was listed as missing and his father a fugitive. they reported the sightings to state and local law enforcement but it was months before police moved in. they knew you had seen this kid and he was very likely on the property? >> and i told them siraj is there. >> they were dragging their feet, they were taking too long. even if they were trying to build a case or what not, a child's life is at stake. >> there was no excuse. >> reporter: the badgers had given the local sheriff's office permission to search their property but the sheriff says the law would not allow it. the fbi conducted surveillance but say they never spotted wahhaj or the boy. >> i have no probable cause to get a search warrant on this property. in hindsight there was but we would not have been there lawfully. >> reporter: wahhaj's father, who shares the same name, is a new york imam, the first muslim to lead a prayer in the house of representatives. but also a controversial figure.
he was a character witness for the mastermind of the 1993 world trade center bombings. the imam's spokesperson said he and the entire faith community is devastated that those remains could possibly be those of abghoua abdul-ghani. tanya badger is equally torn up. after hearing a body was found, she went back to lay flowers in honor of the boy she says was failed by bureaucracy and inaction. and this is where tanya badger left the flowers. when she was here yesterday she was in tears because she was haunted by the possibility this this might might have been saved. it's not clear when the child died but badger says if it was after her and her husband notified law enforcement then they ought to be held accountable. >> scott mclean, thank you so much for bringing thus story. appreciate it. a spanish fighter jet accidentally fired an air-to-air missile during a training mission over estonia but
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watch this. >> whoa! holy crap! it jumped right out of the water! >> did you see that? >> man! >> okay, that was a great white shark. it lunged at greg. joining us to talk about this close er is greg with the massachusetts department of marine fisheries. greg, we're happy you're in one piece. tell us about that moment and what you were thinking when a shark jumped out of the water at you. >> it's great to be here. we've been going out for the last four or five years doing this twice and a week and it's fairly routine to come up on a quite shark to tag it. the visibility in the water was horrible so we didn't see this shark and then suddenly comes
this leaping giant white shark and i have to tell you it startled me quite a bit and it only lasted maybe a split second so it's not like i have time to think about it so i just put the camera in the water and hoped i could get video of it. but it was frighteniexciting to least. >> excite is one word. frightening and terrifying is another. why did the shark jump out at you? had you annoyed it? how unusual is it to see a great white shark jump out of the water like that? >> well, in our part of the world off the coast of massachusetts, cape cod, new england, these sharks don't breach. they don't jump out of the water. one time we captured this on film and generally it's because they're chasing a prey item, a seal. and this case it jumped up. we don't know what motivated it.
was the boat spooking the shark or was the shark jumping out of the water to get me as a prey item? i can't answer that question but i'm happy to be sitting here today. >> the shark wanted to eat him! you look at it the video, the shark wanted to eat him! i'm leaving the interview now. >> you're staying here and here's why. it does look like it wanted to eat you. about eight days ago something happened to a friend of mine also off the water of cape cod. his name is roger freeman. he was minding his own business paddle boarding and a drone flying overhead captured a great white coming within feet of his paddle board. now my friend wasn't aware of what was happening under the water but the drone was from the atlantic white shark conservancy. they showed him when he got back to shore how close it was. so my question to you is are you
seeing more sharks coming closer to the shore and human beings? >> we've been studying these sharks for ten years now intensively over the last half dozen and we've been seeing the sharks fairly close to the shore and they here that because there are lots of seals which they want to eat. they live tight to the shoreline so they're going to come tight to the beaches and we've been trying to convince the public that you don't want to go far from the shoreline. stay close to shore. the probability of an interaction with a white shark is really, really low but as your friend demonstrated if you go out there at a great distance, these sharks will approach you. we want people to use common sense in the presence of these animals. >> i'm not sure you're comforting my co-host john berman who doesn't like the idea that there are more sharks coming in closer to the shore and when you say use common
sense, what are you supposed to do with a great white circling you? >> well, you know hopefully don't put yourself in a position where these white sharks will be circling you. the sharks are not coming right, right up to the beach. you can go in the water, you can stay within a few yards, a dozen yards of the beach, you can do what you want to do but in certain areas where there are high concentrations of white sharks -- and we can tell you where those areas are, don't go out 200 yards from the shoreline because you place yourself at potential risk. but that risk is really, really low, john. >> appreciate that. i know the important role that sharks play in the food chain but when you admit to being startled by the shark who was trying to eat you clearly and noting it's rare for them to breach like that, that is the type of thing that i apologize, it scares me. >> it can be frightening. i'm trying not to comment that it was trying to eat me but now that the word's out --
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she wanted to raise money for school clothes but then her mother stepped in. >> my mom showed me a video on facebook of a hurt veteran and i decided to help him the first yea year. >> she decided to set up her lemonade stand each summer. she decided to raise $2,000 for our nation's heroes. >> we can take the money and give it to the hospitals. there's a lot of people that need help. >> i love sammy. she's inspirational. i'm going home to ground my kids. >> you know what you should do when you see a lemonade stand with kids trying to raise money? go buy lemonade. >> that's the selfless act. time now for cnn newsroom with poppy harlow. >> all right, good wednesday morning everyone. i'm poppy harlow in new york.
the morning after the last special election before the november midterms, we don't know who is elected but for democrats it was special. with all the precincts reporting but with several thousand absentee information ballots, republican troy balderson holds a one percentage point lead over democrat danny o'connor in the race for an open u.s. house seat in the 12th district of ohio. it's a district president trump won by 11 points and the retiring republican congressman won by 35 points. no democrat has won in decades. balderson and the president are claiming victory this morning. oc'connor is not conceding and o one else is calling this race over. want a closer race? look no further than the gubernatorial primary in kansas. a fraction of a point separates the candidate backed by the president kris kobach from jeff collier who happens to be the incumbent and to michigan we go where the democratic gubernatorial race was not close at all and that, too,