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instead the focus was somewhat on the politics and also what is worth fighting for. >> if we don't step up, things can get worse. when there's a vacuum in our democracy, we're not participating, we're not paying attention, when we're not stepping up, other voices fill the void. i want to reach out for some republicans who kind of harken back to the values of a guy named abraham lincoln, the first republican president and who say to themselves i don't recognize what's going on in washington right now. that's not what i believe. that's not who we are as a people and as a country. the biggest threat to our democracy, i said yesterday, is not -- it's not one individual.
it's not one big superpac billionaires, it's us not doing what we're supposed to do. >> cnn's dan america is in that event in orange county, california. we heard cheering. obviously people are there because they want to see the former president. what is the reaction to the words? >> reporter: this is a fired-up audience. this is 750 democratic activist, invite only, largely volunteers to each campaign. i have to say i was struck by this event as someone who was in illinois with the president yesterday. this was a dramatically different event. yesterday's speech, 65-minute point-by-point takedown of the trump administration in a really historic way. today's speech was more muted i thought. president obama looked a little
more comfortable up there, more relaxed. he didn't look as though he was coming out swinging much like he did yesterday. of course, he doesn't have to say president trump's name to take a shot at president trump. there are multiple times throughout the speech where he clearly mentioned the administration, as you played. he urged the democrats to get out and vote because this isn't rock bottom, he argued. he argued all the activism doesn't mean anything if they're not turning out voters because then it's just activism. of course he was taking on president trump through this speech, but it was a different kind of event. all the candidates who were here, six candidates here, he endorsed seven in total. one was unable to make it. they'll use this event either in an ad or digital spots. it was a different kind of event where the president really was more muted and not as direct in his attacks on donald trump. >> dan merica, thank you. joining me cnn political
commentator jason miller, a senior adviser for the 2016 trump campaign. and patti solis doyle who served on hillary clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. as we look at this, dan makes a great point, you should always know your audience, a safe place for president obama here. at the same time he knows all too well, his audience is much broader than those people who were in the room there, that this is going to get a lot more play. was it a missed opportunity for the president to maybe hammer home a little bit of the fire he showed on friday? >> i think yesterday's speech he really did lay down the predicate for the argument which is although politicians say it every election, this truly is the most important election of our lifetime. he gave a point-by-point rebuke to the president. more importantly it was an indictment of the republicans party at large.
here we have a president who sides with putin over america, who lies to the american people, who defends nazis. yet we have a congress who is neglecting their job by providing a check on that behavior. i think yesterday he really did lay down the predicate. today was much more fired up and ready to go and getting people out there to knock on doors. he pulled out his clipboard, and take your clipboards and really get the vote out. i thought the one-two punch was quite effective. >> jason, i'm guessing you don't find it effective, but that's just a guess. >> actually i love seeing former president obama on the campaign trail. i hope he keeps it up all the way through november. just when i thought most hope was lost for republicans to hang on to the house, now we're seeing republicans and president trump really have a foil to go up against in former president obama. let me explain what i mean.
so to many of my friends on the political left or even some in the media, when they see former president obama, he in many ways is the second coming. he's the most brilliant, gifted, democratic politician we have seen in our life times. he's someone who brought a lot of people into the political space to begin with. but to an entire different group of americans, he represents obamacare, represents the stimulus, he represents caving to the global elites. you have to keep in mind to the earlier part of the decade when we saw this renaissance on the conservative end of the republican party where we fought back and took back the house in 2010 and took back the senate in 2014, and so i love seeing former president obama out on the campaign trail. i'd say there's one bit of caution that i throw to my democratic friends with seeing former president obama out on the campaign trail. the more that he's out there and the more he reminds democrats and even independents how gifted
and brilliant of a politician he is, it casts really -- really puts into perspective how weak the field is going into 2020. a little bit of caution for my democratic friends there. >> i'll pick up on that point in a minute. but one thing i want to touch on that you pointed out there, jason, what was interesting, what we were discussing in the last hour about the speeches, this president was not limiting it to his audience there in the room in the respect that he was saying, listen, i'm talking to independents, i'm talking to republicans. jason, we're not hearing that from the president, from a lot of top republican candidates. is that a missed message for republicans? >> actually i think that's a really good point that you bring up. i think taking on the swamp, trying to change washington, i thought that was one of the great points that president trump ran on in 2016. >> but it hasn't really panned out that way. >> that's where i'm agreeing with you. i think that's been a big missed opportunity for the administration. remember the speech he gave in
gettysburg prior to the election in 2016 where he talked about pushing for term limits on capitol hill, a whole host of other reforms to do thing with the administration on capitol hill. i think when he's fighting the swamp and when he's trying to change washington, i think that's a winning space for him. i think that's something previous administrations, both democrats and republicans, have completely struck out on. i would like to see president trump and congressional republicans hit that much harder, and i think that is the way that he's going to have a chance, president trump, of winning independents again going into 2020 and making sure these trump voters -- keep in mind in 2016 the reason why they called these folks trump voters is because they showed up to vote for president trump. the key for republicans is how do you get them to show back up in 2018 for people not named donald trump. that's going to be the key. you've got to take on washington, leading the fight in term limits and things like that, and i think you make a great point.
>> patti, when we look at this, what jason has brought up, and he's not the first person to bring this up, is barack obama the best messenger for this party as we're moving into the midterms? should it be barack obama? >> look, first i just have to respond to jason who i respect very much, but the idea that president trump would be talking about draining the swamp going into the midterm elections because that will appeal to independents to me is just ridiculous since the last two years of his presidency his cabinet, he and his family sort of personified the swamp. let me just say that. on the best messenger, look, the democrats are the opposition party right now. we don't have a leader of our party. we are going to nominate one starting november 7th, 2018 when the 2020 democratic primary goes into high gear.
until then i think it's wonderful we have our last great leader, our standard-bearer basically coming out saying i'm with you in this fight. i'm going to rise up with you. i'm part of this resistance, i'm part of this fight. i think he will really energize a democratic party that's already wildly energized. i think they were waiting for him and he's arrived. they're very welcoming to having him join the fight. >> there's an issue of the midterm elections in general and whether or not there's sort of a ceiling as to how many americans are going to come out to vote. jason, you do it first and then patti, i want you to wrap it up. do we think there's going to be a difference in terms of turnout this time around? we hear the messaging from both sides. we hear there is fire in bellies. yet we have a whole lot of history that tells us it may not turn out that way, jason. >> well, we won't know until the first week in november. but what i can tell you in
chatting with republican pollsters and folks on my side of the aisle is right now democrats are at maximum fired-up capacity. they're ready to go. they're going to be turning their people out. right now republicans are not matching that with the same intensity. the reason why is because republican voters feel like they're winning. they see what's happening with wage growth. see what's happening with tax cuts, they see what's happening with the economy. they feel like we're winning on the world stage. a lot of republican voters, to be blunt with you, are feeling actually lazy. that's why i'm glad to see former president obama on the campaign trail. i hope he's out every single day reminding republican voters and even the republican voters who might be too lazy, reminding them about obamacare and the stimulus and what democrats will do if they get back in control. if we can get close to the same intensity level, republicans have a chance to hold on to the house. i think in the senate i think
republicans even today are still probably in good shape, probably necessary plus one or net plus two. >> patti, a quick last word. >> i think we've already seen incredible turnout in all these special elections and in these primaries. democrats have outperformed in ruby red districts. i think you'll continue to see that trend in november on november 6th, and i think barack obama only helps with the energy on the democratic side. >> patti, jason, appreciate it. thank you both. just ahead, from fear to fist pumping. as the president hunts for the writer of the scathing op-ed there's new reporting about the mood inside the white house and also at the justice department. just after those words were published. that's next.
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opinion piece published in "the new york times." they say actually the list of people who are likely responsible now down to just a few. these people are already on the record seen on the screen as saying it wasn't me. president trump thinks he knows where the person works. >> i would say jeff should be investigating who the author of that piece was because i believe it's national security. >> let me bring in lachlan marqu marquee, the white house reporter for "the daily beast." some people cheering on the release of the op-ed with a fist bump. not everyone in a celebratory mood. some were concerned. >> even folks who might agree with some of what was said in the op-ed have a legitimate concern that the president and folks close to him sort of overreact to this opinion ed and
see it as 'em mat tick of a deep state cabal that is inherently an tas nis tick to his agenda and decide to use the president's pretty wide latitude to make personnel decisions in the federal government to engage in essentially a purge of the bureaucracy, to get a lot of these perceived enemies within the government itself to push them out. that's really the concern here, is an overreaction. certainly president trump is demonstrating he's willing to use things like the revoking of security clearances to root out perceived political enemies. >> we should point out that my colleague christiane amanpour spoke with kellyanne can conway w who expressed other concerns. >> i'm not interested in the investigation. i hope they find the person. i believe the person will suss himself or herself out. that's usually what happens, people brag to the wrong person. they brag that they did this or did that because they -- i
assume part of this -- isn't the goal here not what the op-ed portends it is, it's to sew chaos and get us suspicious of each other. >> is that what's happening, are you getting suspicious of each other? >> no, that's not happening. >> that's not what's happening, she says. you know being there at the white house this is how donald trump in many ways does business. he lets people be pitted against one another and fight it out for their spot to still be there. is the effort being made to root this person out, is it any different in that respect? >> look, the president is -- like him or hate him, the president is a very disruptive force in american politics. he was sort of swept in on this populist wave of a determination to upend the status quo in washington. when you do that, naturally you're going to be forced to take on some entrenched interest in washington.
say what you will about the merits or the points made against him in this op-ed, but you're inevitably going to have that tension in a bureaucracy as large as the federal government when you come in and try to shake things up for better or worse. it's fanciful to dismiss this as there is no tension. i think trump supporters would be the first to say there is tension and there should be. >> we also have reporting that kellyanne conway and others are trying to get the president to just back away from this, to put his efforts elsewhere. any sense that that's actually working? >> no. i think the more attention that's given to this op-ed, the more the news media pays attention to it, tries to figure out who is behind it and pays attention to complaints from inside the administration, the more upset he'll get and the more likely he will be to try to rid himself of perceived enemies around him. >> lachlan markay, thank you. >> thank you. remember that whole
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spicer famously claimed this was the largest audience to ever witness inauguration, period. well, newly released documents obtained by "the guardian" reveal a government photographer cropped the images to make the crowd look larger. here are pictures showing president trump's 2016 crowd versus the crowd for former president obama in 2009. the unnamed photographer says he tampered with the photos from the president's inauguration in 20 sf after receiving multiple calls from the white house according one from the president on his first full day of office. let's bring in polo sandoval. did the calls from the white house say i want you to edit this? >> a very important distinction here. let me try to explain this reporting in the guardian that has this story in the news cycle again. "the guardian" reporting they obtained through a freedom of information request show that
the former head of the national park service received a call from president trump after his inauguration back in january of 2017. the president here reportedly asking for additional pictures of the inauguration. he was obviously concerned about the crowd size of the inauguration. the requests appear to have trickled down to other staffers at the park service, one unnamed official telling investigators with the inspector general's office that she got the president that the president wanted to see pictures that appeared to show more spectators in the crowd. an assumption was made according to the reporting from "the guardian," the photos were cropped but that was because the staffers felt that that is what the white house, that is what the president wanted. the official that spoke to investigators acknowledged and made very clear that at no point did the white house or president trump specifically request that the photos be cropped.
it gives you an inside look at what was happening behind the scenes for us and the rest of the american public, they saw that very bizarre press conference with former press secretary sean spicer. we can play a small portion of it. >> yeah, just to remind everyone. >> photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet to minimize the enormous support that gathered on the national mall. this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe. >> two points that were obviously false. two quick things to wrap up with here that the article points to, it's still unclear what photographs would have been altered and whether they were released publicly. we have reached out to the white house, waiting for them to comment. >> interesting where the focus was for the president and the white house just hours after. a lot to chew on there. polo, thank you, good to see
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president trump calling a shot in the culture war when it comes to the national anthem and football. he said he's going to win this one. listen to how he stoked the crowd in montana just before the kickoff in nfl. >> from colin kaepernick to the nfl to now nike, who is going to win this cultural showdown of standing for the anthem? >> we are. >> that new ad campaign from nike featuring colin kaepernick throwing fuel on the fire there. folks protesting nike's decision on social media, ripping the swooshes from their socks, some burning their own nike shoes and clothing. as for what happened on thursday, no players took a knee during the season opener. two eagles players did decide to sit down toward the end of the
anthem. joining me former nchl player dante stallworth and lamont hill. we believe colin is one of the most inspirational athletes of this generation who has leveraged the power of sport to help move the world forward. kaepernick's position hasn't changed since day one. what do you think changed for nike? >> they saw this as a good business opportunity for them. that's what all mega businesses do. they look at what's best for their bottom line. but i also believe that they felt that there was something that -- that this was something they could get behind. they obviously had done the research. nike is a huge brand. it's a global marketing titan, and so it understands they may have taken an initial hit. as we saw yesterday and today, the stock has risen even more now, jumping 31% just over the labor day weekend when they first announced this. nike understood what they were
doing. they knew they would continue to alienate and some people wouldn't be happy with it. from a global standpoint, this thing is bigger than just the united states. they're taking this global brand on a global message. i think it resonates throughout the world not just here in the united states. >> an important perspective to point that out. we are talking about a global economy. marc there's so much talk about how polarized everything is and for many companies it should be a sign they wouldn't weigh in. we've seen airlines say we're not going to fly separated children. more companies seem to be taking a stand. why do you think the tides are changi changing? >> first, to dante's point, we never want to remant size companies and corporations. they don't have feelings. corporations have interests. if they thought they would minimize growth rather than maximize, they wouldn't do it.
they do want companies that take strong stances. in 2016 we know that populism works and people want someone who takes a strong stance, even if it's on one end or the other. the idea that a company won't fly separated children or they'll stand behind someone who is a hero and a freedom fighter shouldn't be surprising. despite the fact that there are people burning their nikes or want to build a wall, most americans want justice, most americans can rationalize that getting down on one knee during the anthem to protest police terrorism -- for me it's nike using good logic and good judgment. nike has a long history of being problematic in terms of labor, but also being receptive to ideas that black people can lead campaigns, all the way back to jordan in the '80s.
nike is very sophisticated here. >> dante, is there a message here for athletes? >> yeah, i think the message here is simple. it's the same -- i'm not comparing collin kaepernick to muhammad ali, to get that clear. i think the message is clear to stand up for what you believe in. there are a lot of players who want to do this and maybe don't have the financial backing to be able to do this or unfortunately the moral courage. there are a lot of reasons why players decide to stand or players decide to neil. i will say nike has understood this from a liss tore cal perspective. they want to be on the right side of history. the nfl so far has not really done that. this thing will always -- i always say you look at all the players who were chastised and criticized for taking a stand against wars, taking a stand against poverty, against whatever they believed in, they were always criticized at the time. history always vindicated these
players. they said the players who threw up a black fist down in the 1968 olympics in mexico city, they said that was a nazi-like salute. those players have been vindicated. it was months after martin luther king was as nated and the vietnam war was under way. those guys were protesting all those things. i think at the end of the day history will vindicate colin kaepernick, if not already. >> i want to add real quick, i agree with everything that was just said. we also want to make sure that history doesn't vindicate colin kaepernick and say we were wrong to take away his career. he's still unemployed. we want to make sure the league doesn't continue to blackball him. he's not just a freedom fighter and a hero, he's also a very capable quarterback who deserves to be working. >> the president has tried to push this as a culture war. do you think with what we're seeing from nike and, yes, it is a business decision, but at the end of the day, marc, do you think this could start to change
the conversation in the country on a broader -- in a broader way? >> absolutely. throughout history we've always had these cultural interventions, these moments where a shift in the public sphere can lead to a shift in the political dimension of the public sphere. i absolutely think by seeing colin kaepernick on that screen next to serena williams, next to the french soccer team, next to these other heroes. >> lebron james. >> -- lebron james, we're annual to have a different conversation. if we can have that happening at one time, the american people can sway. in the way that nike is a corporation, so is the nfl. if the nfl can be concern convi that the fans and the general public want something different, they could yield on this. more importantly, i want justice. i want people to stop dying at the hands of police, i want people to stop being incourse rated because of the color of their skin and their economic situation. if the nfl can have any part in
that, even if it's just bringing colin kaepernick back in the league, if they can do that, we might be able to shift the conversation the same way muhammad ali was able to shift the conversation on vietnam, along with king and others. i'm hopeful, i'm not optimistic, but hopeful it will change. >> we're out of time today. marc lamont hill, dante stallworth, really appreciate it. thank you. the provocative ceo of tesla elon musk lighting up. his lahas his son asking if everything is all right. >> it's tobacco and marijuana in there. that's all it is.
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million. when he started smoking a joint on comedian joe rogan's podcast, people noticed. >> probably can't because of stockholders, right? >> it's legal, right? >> totally legal. >> how does that work? do people get upset at you when you do certain things? >> it's tobacco and marijuana in there. that's all it is. >> reporter: it's just the latest bizarre incident for the high profile ceo of tesla and spacex. he's had a turbulent couple of weeks. tesla's chief accounting officer announced his resignation. he did not cite the incident. last month during an emotional interview with "the new york times," musk said 120-hour workweeks were taking a toll on his physical health. i've had friends come by who are really concerned he said. some of tesla's board members have raised concern about his use of the prescription drug ambien which musk admits he
sometimes takes to help him sleep. a little red wine, vintage record, some ambien and magic he tweeted last year. >> the 47-year-old engineer has been called the real life tony stark, better known as ironman. his reputation taking serious hits. >> he's a great tech visionary, not clear he's necessarily a great business leader. i think that's the fundamental problem that he's running into right now. musk announced he wanted to take tesla private. the company lost nearly $2 billion last year and never earned a profit. amid a chorus of criticism, he reversed course saying tesla will remain public. even his admirers had to be dumfounded when he attacked british divers who rescued 12 boys trapped in a thailand cave. the diver called it a pr stunt. musk retaliated calling the man
a pedo, short for pedophile. in an e-mail last week to buzzfeed calling him a child rapist. buzzfeed says musk did not provide proof of the claims. the diver is reportedly planning to sue. elon musk e-mailed his employees saying in part, quote, there will be lots of fuss and noise in the media. just ignore them. in the meantime, tesla shares have lost about a third of what they were since august. this latest incident is not likely to help. what will help is profitability. musk says the future quarter looks bright. it can't come soon enough. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. coming up, dorothy's ruby red slippers, they're not in kansas anymore, but they have been found after a very long hunt. don't call it a comeback.
there is no place like home, especially when we're talking about dorothy's ruby red slippers. the fbi announcing a stolen pair of the iconic shoes were finally recovered in a sting operation after 13 long years. cnn's jeanne moos has the story. >> from dorothy's feet to fbi evidence. >> under the rainbow. >> the ruby red slippers stolen 13 years ago have been recovered. 13 years of police asking -- >> the ruby slippers, what have you done with them? >> we still don't know who done it, broke into the judy garland museum in grand rapids, minnesota smashing a display case, leaving one thing behind. >> a single sequin off the shoe. >> reporter: the author of the ruby slippers of oz say. >> the holy grail of all hollywood memorabilia.
>> reporter: there are at least four pairs used in the wizard of oz. these, for instance, at the smithsonian. the yellow brick road was a dead-end for investigators despite loads of tips. >> everything from they're nailed to a wall in roadside diner in muse sorry when i was with my boyfriend when they threw them in an iron orr pit. >> last summer authorities got a credible tip. they said someone tried to extort the shoe's owner. the slippers were finally recovered this summer in a sting operation. >> tap your heels together three times. there's no place like home. >> yeah, but where is home for the long lost, now found ruby red slippers? an insurance company owns the shoes worth $2 million to $5 million. they remain in fbi custody as evidence. they're actually a mismatched pair. >> the right shoe of the stolen
pair actually matches the left shoe at the smith sonia. >> the right shoe at the smithsonian matches the left of the stolen pair. authorities identified multiple suspects but are still asking for the public's help to nab the slipper thieves who have given them the slich all these years. >> i'll get you my pretty. >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> there's no place like home. >> new york. >> joining me now, ray nick kol, chairman of the board for the judy garland museum in grand rapids, where the shoes were stolen from. when you got the news the fbi had found them as part of a sting operation, what was your reaction? >> first of all, erica, it was startling news early in the morning, it was all over twitter, the first thing i did was stop into the local grand rapids police department to see this wasn't another joke. as you can guess through the 13 years there have been many
pranksters and thing like that giving us false hope. we found out that this was, in fact, the real deal and the actual slippers. >> as i understand it, there were a number of pairs of slippers worn during the movies. we heard from jeannie this is a mismatched pair. what do we know about them, either the right shoe or the left shoe? >> we know that they were in a movie, there were four pairs. this is the most important pair to us because it was here in grand rapids. >> and they're worth anywhere from $2 million to $5 million we learned. why do you think it is that they're still so fascinating, called the holy grail of hollywood memorabilia? >> i think, erica, because all of us across the world, no matter where we're from, can connect to the ruby slippers. what they stood for, what they
symbolized which was the ruby slippers took dorothy wherever she desired. that's the dream we all have. >> wouldn't it be nice if we could click our heels three times. i know you have a replica there behind you. this particular pair is still with the fbi as far as we understand. do you know if you're going to get them back? >> well, we're working on that. we hope to some day have the slippers back in grand rapids, minnesota. as you know judy garland was born here. we have hur home, original house here at the judy garland museum. so we really want to work hard and feel that this pair of slippers should end up at home in judy garland's hometown. >> have you seen an increase in calls, people calling you to say, oh, my gosh, we heard about the slippers, are they back? what do you know? >> right now the mezzanine is completely packed with people, today.
it's been that way all week and people have been calling from literally all over the world. i've gotten e-mails and our staff, our board members, literally from work it's been incredible. everyone is asking are the slippers going to end up back at judy's house. >> well, when you get that answer, let us know. ray, pleasure to talk with you. thank you. >> thank you, erica. you are in the cnn "newsroom" on this saturday. i'm erica hill in for ana cabrera. it's game on. trump versus obama in the run-up to the midterm elections. less than two months to go. which obama will we see on the campaign trail? well, it may depend on the day. it may depend a little on the audience. we just heard a very different speech from the former president this afternoon. he was speaking at his first rally for congressional
candidates. today's obama, kinder, gentler, talking more about hope and change. >> we're in a challenging moment because when you look at the arc of american history, there's always been a push and pull between those who want to go forward and those who want to look back, between those who want to divide and those who are seeking to bring people together, between those who promote a politics of hope and those who exploit politics of fear. >> the tone, even the former president's demeanor, not the former president we saw who was speaking just 24 hours ago in illinois, unleashing pointed scathing attacks on presi
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