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his family separation policy for migrants start under president obama. he denies he's considering bringing it back while at the same time appearing to justice it. star's indicted. a high profile hollywood couple and other parents slapped with serious new charges as prosecutors up the pressure on them. putin defends trump. russian president vladmir putin speaks publicly about mueller report offering a squacathing assessment and strong backing for president trump. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." breaking news, the democratic chairman of the house judiciary committee is threatening to issue a ississ i
and go to court if necessary. that followed testimony by william barr who told lawmakers he expects to release a redacted version of the report within a week leaving the stage set for a sharp showdown between house democrats and the trump administration. i'll talk about the breaking news and more with congressman denny of the intelligence committee. our correspondents are standing by. let's get details on the breaking news. sarah mur ray is joining us. democrats not happy with what they heard today from the attorney general. >> that's right. battle is obviously brewing as the attorney general makes it clear he's just days away from having a report ready and democrats are making it very painfully clear that's not going to be enough. >> reporter: attorney general william barr saying he will be ready to share robert mueller's
report. >> i think that my standpoint by within a week i'll be in a position to release to the public. >> reporter: not the complete version democrats are clamoring very. >> i don't intend to send the full unredacted report to the committee. >> reporter: setting up a fight between congress and the trump administration over the fate of the mueller report. democrats already authorized a issue kn subpoena for the full report and underlying evidence. so far democrats haven't moved forward with it but that could soon change. >> i presume we'll get the redacted report within a week. when we do so, if we don't get everything, we'll issue the iss pea th -- subpoena and go to court.
barr says this isn't one of them. >> until someone shows me a provision in 6e that permits its release, congress doesn't get 6e. the chairman of the judiciary committee is free to go to court if he feels one of those exceptions is applicable. he says congress will only get explanations for the redactions. >> we will color code the excisions from the report and provide notes describing basis for each redaction. >> reporter: barr under fire for how he crafted the summary of mueller's conclusions. >> all we have is your four page summary which seems to cherry pick from the report. to draw the most favorable conclusion possible for the president. >> reporter: barr acknowledged they may have wanted more of their original wording included. >> i suspect they wanted more
put out. i felt that i should state the bottom line conclusions. i tried to use special counsel mueller's own language in doing that. >> reporter: only about 100 word f s were mueller's. >> his team did not play a role in drafting that document. we offered them the opportunity to review it before we sent it out and he declined that. >> reporter: barr acknowledged the white house counsel was given a heads up about the initial summary sent to congress. >> we did advise the white house counsel's office the letters were being sent but they were not allowed or even asked to make any changes to the letters. >> reporter: he refused to say whether the white house is seeking the full report. >> i've said what i'm going to say about the report today. >> reporter: even though barr was adamant that grand jury information not be made public, he sounded more willing to share some of the classified
information, at least with members of congress. he also said it would be very unfortunate if congress got the full report and leaked it. >> stay with us. evan perez is with us. it was interesting the attorney general revealed that robert muell mueller's team was offered an opportunity to review the four page summary of the principle conclusions but mueller and his team declined. what's the significance? >> i think that was one of the most significant things i heard during the testimony today. so far bill barr, his strategy has been politically to sort of lock arms with robert mueller to a certain extent with rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general. to present a united front as they face this criticism from members of congress. what you saw was a little daylight that mueller was given a chance to look at the letter. he declined. he also, you heard him say, that
perhaps there were members of the mueller team that were unhappy that more of their work was not reflected in that letter. i think that was an acknowledgement that you heard there that surprised me. >> he was asked about that. we have seen reports that some members were not happy with what they saw in the four page principle conclusion summary. listen,0 to how the attorney general responded. >> i suspect they probably wanted more put out. in my view, i was not interested in putting out summaries or trying to summarize. i think any summary, regardless of who repprepares it not only s the risk of being underinclusive or over inclusive but would trigger a lot of discussion and analysis that should weigh everything coming out at once. >> are you surprised he was willing to answer that question
about grumblings behind the scenes among the mueller team? >> i'm just as surprised as evan. he said i suspect this is how they were feeling. there would be a lot of ways for bill barr just to not answer that question. to say i'm not going to get into that before i make the report public or say i haven't had any direct conversations with anyone on mueller's team who has expressed their dissatisfaction with me. he decided to wade into the middle of it and say i think this is probably what they wanted me to do but here is what i did. he did open himself up to other critici criticism. lawmakers said if the summaries were created, why didn't you just release that. >> one sense tiitive question n addresses if it was mueller's intention for congress to make a final decision on obstruction of justice or if it was mueller's intention to let the deputy make that. >> these are moments where some
of us wish we could get a question, ask the question ourselves. i was surprised nobody asked him that question. that's the most important question that people have right now which is, you know, the fact that mueller did not reach a conclusion on obstruction. he said there was evidence on both sides. he said it wasn't an exoneration. it wasn't enough to bring charges. the question that everybody has to ask right now is, did he intend for the members of congress to actually pick this up or did he want barr and rod rosenstein to make the decision. that was very surprising that no one asked that question. >> my sort of piggy back is how can you make a determination is you never interviewed the president. why didn't they push forward to try this interview with the president? i suspect that's another question people will want to ask. >> good thing we have tomorrow. >> barr will be back tomorrow. it's an important question.
thank you very much. the white house is consumed with immigration chaos after president trump fired the officials over at the department of homeland security and the president is weighing his next moves. let's go to our chief white house correspondent. the president made some denials and false claims. >> reporter: he did. he appears to be slamming the brakes on part of his immigration plan claiming they are not looking at resuming the separating of families. the president tried to falsely claim barack obama. it was a moment that showed some separation at the white house. that was between mr. trump and the truth. it could be a trial balloon that's already popped as president trump denied what officials were telling reporters that he was considering
returning to zero policy of separating children from families at the border. >> we're not looking to do that. he falsely claimed that barack obama started the policy. >> president obama had child separation. take a look. the press knows it. you know it. we all know it. i'm the one that stopped it. >> reporter: that's not true. top administration officials made it clear family separations could be a result of the zero tolerance policy. >> if you're smuggling a child we'll prosecute you and that child will be separated from you probably as required by law. if you don't want your child to be separated then don't bring them across the border illegally. >> reporter: to john kelly. >> i'm considering in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network, i'm considering exactly that. they will be well cared for as we deal with their parents.
>> reporter: even as he was denying a return to zero toil ra tolerance he appeared to justice it. >> once you don't have it, that's why you see many more people coming. they're coming like it's a picnic. let's go to diz nesney land. >> reporter: a different form of zero tolerance has been under consideration. something called binary choice. it would let them decide whether to be separated from their children or be incarcerate as a family. it's a policy option that is being pursued as an area for contemplation by i.c.e. it's not at a point where it's been fully developed enough. at a hearing attorney general william barr appeared to close the door on separating families. >> i support the president's policy which is we're not going to separate families. >> reporter: the trump administration is also crafting plans to make asylum requests more difficult at the border including creating strict new requirements for migrants who claim they fear conditions back in their home countries.
>> i never said i'm cleaning house. >> reporter: be attorney general barely defended white house support for a court ruling that could scrap obama care. >> if you succeed that many people will lose their coverage nationally from medicaid and 750,000 from pennsylvania alone, right? >> if you think it's an outrageous position you have nothing to worry about. let the courts do their job. >> reporter: steve mnuchin said his department had been in touch with the white house to see the president's tax returns. >> i believe that the communication between our legal department and the white house general counsel was informational that we had read
in the press we were expecting this. >> reporter: the incoming acting secretary at dhs has the complete support of the president but that official also said one of the problems at the department is it's overrun with career officials. as for family separations there were expectations or exceptions when that happened during the obama administration but it wasn't the obama administration's policy. as for this current administration, it would take up to two years to locate some of the children separated from their parents under president trump. >> so sad indeed. thank you. nc let get get some more on all of this. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> you're welcome. do you support the plan of the house judiciary chairman to issue a subpoena for the unredakunr
unreda unredacted, the complete report after barr delivers his redacted version within the next week? >> absolutely, totally, 100%. transparency ought to be the watch word here. inherent of the definition of democracy is the free flow of information and openness. as the saying goes, democracy die in darkness. he's only going to make matters worse if he withholds information. he's going to make a hot mess out of it. if he submits the redacted version and a subpoena will be issued according to chairman nadler and it will go to court. i like our chances in court. more importantly, the public pressure will continue to mount because they will not have yet answered the question, why are you with holding all this information. thirdly, let me just say that this is not going anywhere good for him. he ought to cease and desist and provide the information. i find it a great irony that as you know i have the privilege to
serve on the intel committee. that means twice a week i go three floors below the capital building. i give up my electronic and receive top secret briefings on the most sense tiitive informat. for them to suggest we can't see the material is absurd. >> do you think there should be two versions. one you and your colleagues on the intelligence should see, unredacted, including the sensitive intelligence related information and a second vers n version, a public version that the american public gets to see? >> i don't think congress ought to have to rely on a political appointee to decide what information we can and cannot see especially in light of the fact that last summer he already indicated what his bias was one he wrote the 19 page single pace memo saying he didn't think that obstruction of justice ought to be pursued and no legal basis for it despite the fact that isn't true. >> what in the intelligence
community decides what needs to be kept secret because of sensitive intelligence information, sources and methods. >> at a minimum, democrats and republicans ought to see 100% of this material. >> what about information that could compromise ongoing criminal investigations. the special counsel referred several cases to the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york or the u.s. attorney here in washington, d.c. if that would compromise those investigatio investigations, do you think chose thoul those should be classified? >> i would defer to my colleagues on the judiciary committee. they are primarily interested in counter intelligence information that might be contained in the report. >> the attorney general says congress might be able to see some of that classified information under what he called appropriate safeguards. do you think you guys can work this out with the attorney
general, with jerry nadler and robert mule who aeller who is h the attorney general scrub that docume document? >> the history of how these things come about is there's a negotiated settlement. i hope for not only the content and the substance of what is in the report but also for the benefit of the american people who clearly want to see all the information. they want all the cards laid on the table. >> the attorney general also says he won't be asking a court. a federal court to allow for the release of sensitive grand jury material in the mueller report. do you want the house judiciary committee jerry nadler to take that step and demand a court review the grand jury information and releets ase it? >> i think that would be a prudent step. >> how concerned are you that the attorney general wouldn't say if the white house had been briefed on the report? >> well it's consistent with everything else that's gone on for the last two years.
remembering that this is the president who first and initially claimed there was no russian interference in the election and then this was the president who changed and said maybe it wasn't a hoax but they didn't actually support or engage in these activities to benefit my can dididacy. they evolved their position to fit the circumstances of the moment. if you look back over history, i think what is likely to happen is that sooner or later this material is going to come forward. i think again that the president is being counter productive and attorney general barr, being counter productive in suppressing it. it's like putting a lid on a boiling pot of water. it just builds pressure and it will out. >> another very sensitive subject, the president falsely stated that it was the obama administration that implemented those family separate separatio
the boarder. he took credit for stopping the policy. what's your reaction to that? >> what we know and what the facts are, wolf, is we have the lowest level of illegal crossings at the beginning of the trump administration and they have done nothing but skyrocketed. once again his rhetoric and actions are worse but chief of staff on the preefrs news u tell me. john kelly and president trump is, how is that working out for you. the fact of the matter is his rhetoric and his actions have exacerbated the situation and notably in his withdrawal of aid to the northern triangle countries of el salvador where we're trying to get at the root cause of why it is that people flee gang violence and the threat of all sorts of economic depravation to seek asylum. what we ought to be doing is
attacking the root cause in order to stem that flow. >> that was john kelly. he was the secretary of homeland security only a few weeks after the president's inauguration of march 6th of 2016, he said they were thinking of separating kids from their parent as a deterrent. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. breaking news continues next with more on the battle over full access of the mueller report. does the attorney general have more leeway on what he can share with congress than he's letting on? more charges filed against the actress lori loughlin and her husband. classic lobster lover's dream... so hurry in! lobsterfest ends april twenty-first. and now for a limited time, get ten percent off red lobster to go. - travel is supposed to be stress-free but if you don't book your must-dos in advance (horn blasts)
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: we're following breaking news. the latest showdown between house democrats and the trump administration over access to the full unredacted mueller report. let's meet with our correspondents. the house sjudiciary chairman says he will issue the full unredacted report after they get the unredacted version. that will happen after the next week. did bill barr leave them any choice? >> i don't think he is. if you look at his answers about changing sides in the legal fight over obama care, the sum total of the message was administration to congress, shove it. he was saying we don't have to do anything that's not within
the asbestos lubsolute narrowesf the law and why it was conducted. i have no doubt attorney general barr is following the law but what he is saying is that you the article one branch of congress don't have the right to this document that i and i alone have. >> the attorney general wants to scrub the grand jury. the sensitive grand jury. he said it's up to nadler to request that. watch this. >> i think if the chairman believes he's entitled to receive it, he can move the court for it. >> i'll come back to this. i'm asking what the your intention. >> my intention is not to ask for it at this stage. >> does the attorney general have more leeway, more opportunity to get that grand jury material if he goes to a court. >> he has multiple opportunities. he keeps talking about these categories as if they are immutable. first of all, he invented it. there's no legal requirement to
attach grand jury material, classified information which he's not allowed to disclose. the other investigations and third parties. those are made up categories. within each category, there's a lot of judgment calls to be made. is it just grand jury testimony that can't be released or any subject that is covered within the grand jury. that's a big difference. we don't know how that line will be drawn. most importantly, he could go to a court and say it's in the public interest to release this grand jury system and he would almost certainly win that case. he's choosing not to do that. jerry nadler will sue. it will probably from the courts for months and a much less certain fate for the disclosure of the grand jury term if nadler is the plaintiff as opposed to barr. >> this is congressman adam schiff. he's the chairman of the house
intelligence committee responding from what he heard from the attorney general. >> i think that's a betrayal of what he promised during his confirmation. it's what he was hired to do which was to protect the president. the president wants he has own roy coin and he got one. it's deeply concerning that he wouldn't answer the question whether he shared information about the mueller report with the white house before he shared it with congress or the american people. >> what are you hearing from the white house? >> he talked about whether or not bill barr wouldn't say whether who not they had seen the report. they had told reporters we haven't given them the report. they just got a read out from bill barr ee's chief of staff. the white house said we haven't seen it either. they said no one in the west wing asked to see the report. when he wouldn't answer today, he said i'm not going say anything else. it raised the question of
whether or not that's changed and whether or not the white house has seen it. we asked the white house. they haven't answered whether or not anything has changed. it did raise questions. the thinking is if they had not seen it, why shouldn't we have said the same today as they said before. >> hold on just a second. we might have missed a moment there but tlthere's a reference there to roy coyn. he was disgraced in washington, d.c. mr. barr was just confirmed by the senate. that includes whether they like it or not. i recognize not all democrats voted for him. he was confirmed as man who served honorably for decades. it's not acceptable. that's an apology that we should anticipate. if you want to have conversation in washington, you cannot compare the attorney general to roy cohn. >> i think you're making a point that it's fine to say maybe that the attorney general is not in the category of roy cohn who is reviled in this country.
this strikes me as the president getting exactly lly what he wa from jeff session, never got and was so upset about. someone who would sit there in committee, cool as a cucumber. follow the very narrowest letter of the law and not give them what they want. >> he was the president's lawyer at one point. the president would say he had hoped that jeff sessions as the attorney general would be his roy cohn. >> in the 1950s, he was the chief counsel to joseph mccarthy in his some his notorious investigations. he made many, many unfounded accusations. he then moved to new york and became a lawyer. he represented a lot of organized crime people and he was a real slick operator who was eventually disbarred.
i think to compare william barr, whatever you think of him to a disbarred mob lawyer is overstatement on the part of congressman schiff. >> it's important to note that bill barr and the president did not have a personal relationship before he became attorney general. he had been recommended to the president. they did not have any relationship like trump shared with roy cohn and bill barr is an established letter with quite a reputation in washington. i'm not sure he will put it on the line with someone like roy cohn would. >> that's a great question. will he put it on the line. his credibility is on the line too. if we see a report riddled with redactions that really is of it s true meaning. i think his reputation will change. you're right about his reputation now and he's banking on that. trump was banking on that in appointing him but let's see how the redactions go. >> the president had said he
wanted sessions as the attorney general to be his roy cohn. >> that surely is what adam schiff is referring to. >> he's getting what he wants now. >> that's an important point. barr did say something that some of the classified information that might be in mueller report under apropropriate safeguards. there's concern there could be leaks. >> let me tell you how to interpret this. if you give the congress a document and members of congress along with their staff gets access to the document, i guarantee you that thing will get leaked. maybe not the paper but the staffers will leak it. there's another way to think about appropriate safeguards. we're not going to bring in staff. we're going to bring in only members of congress. they can read it. they can see it. they can't retain it and we're going to retain the document ourselves and take it out. that term of appropriate safeguards means a lot. if it means access by staff
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welcome back. jeffrey toobin it was quite a little exchange we saw over at the house financial services. the chair representative maxine waters went back and forth with the witness, steve mnuchin. he was supposed to leave. watch this. >> if you wish to keep me here so i don't have my important meeting and continue to grill me then we can do that. i will cancel my meeting and i will not be back here. i'll be very clear. if that's the way you'd like to have this relationship. >> thank you. the gentleman, the secretary has agreed to stay to hear the rest of the members. please cancel your meeting and respect our time. >> what i told you is i thought it was respectful that you let me leave at 5:15. >> you are free to leave any time you want. you may go any time you want. >> please dismiss everybody.
i believe you're supposed to take the gavel. >> please do not instruct me as who how i'm supposed to conduct this committee. >> it went on and on. >> you usually have to go to a junior high school student council to see debate at that level. >> i'm supposed to leave in 15 minutes. come on. the problem with this administration is they're not used to having congressional oversight. for two years the republicans didn't ask them any questions and it's like i have the meeting at 5:15. >> he had been there for several hours. when you watch the hearings especially now that democrats are in charge, the trump administration officials want to need needle them on this. she is the chair that conducts oversight of his department. i don't think that will invite any good interactions in the future. >> she's also the chair of this important committee. she's the one that the president of the united states ridicules. calls her low iq maxine waters.
>> the president said that publicly several times. two things in there disrespectful. first, he said his important meeting implying the meeting they weren't having then and there wasn't important. second, telling her she should gavel out the committee as if he's running the meeting, not her. to the point that jeffrey made about republicans not being used to oversight. it's also, and i think some viewers will not like this, it's also the case that you have a situation of a wealthy powerful white man not liking to be told what to do by an african-american woman sitting congression congressional chair. i say that because the president with impunity says that congresswoman waters has a low iq. he's said nasty disparaging things about other prominent black women, including black women who work at this network. it's a pattern in this administration. i would like to know more about what secretary mnuchin thought. i think two years into the administration we're entitled to get answers on things like that ve even when it's not completely
clear. >> david nailed it. you can win on facts. you can't win on emotion. you can't sit there and say a 5:15 meeting is more important than me sitting here and answering questions from the chairman of the oversight committee. if mnuchin get a knock down and maxine waters get a victory. i suspect he's walking home saying i wish i didn't do that because she should not have. >> it was very testy. >> it's testy and i don't think it's going to be in the history books of the trump administration, that particular exchange, but i do think that race, for me is a lot of these things. when you look at how donald trump talks about african-americans and tweets about them, this is part of that story. >> everybody stick around. there's a lot more news we're following including later tonight there's a cn thr nrkcnnc
town hall with kirsten gillibrand. that's at 10:00 p.m. eastern. another important note tomorrow night, i'll moderate a town hall with jay inslee. tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. there's more breaking news. more than a dozen parents, including the actress lori loughlin are slapped with new charges. vladimir putin breaks his silence on mueller report. someo. this is jamie. you're going to be seeing a lot more of him now. -i'm not calling him "dad." -oh, n-no. -look, [sighs] i get it. some new guy comes in helping your mom bundle and save with progressive, but hey, we're all in this together. right, champ? -i'm getting more nuggets. -how about some carrots? you don't want to ruin your dinner. -you're not my dad! -that's fair. overstepped.
: there's more breaking news. we're following knew charges against the actress lori loughlin, her designer husband and 14 wealthy parents accused of buying their children's way into top universities. the parents are also being charged with money laundering. update our viewers. >> reporter: 16 parents facing an additional charge of money laundering. the stakes just got higher for her, her husband and 14 other people. let's go back to last month. that's when 33 parents were charged in a criminal complaint of conspiracy to commit mail fraud. prosecutors detailed evidence they said they had against the people connected to that scam. remember recorded phone conversations, e-mails.
sources were saying that's a starting point. they had more evidence against the parents and those who didn't strike a deal with prosecutors ran the risk of facing more charges and that's what we saw. 24 hours after they announced 13 parents and a coach did take a plea deal including felicity government. they plan to ask for six months up to two years connected to the scam. court filings show prosecutors likely will recommend a little less time for huffman and a judge will make the final call. huffman sounding very remorseful in her statement. that was different than what we have seen from loughlin. last week she was signing autographs at the airport before her court appearance. he' she'll have to go before a judge. >> thank you very much. other news, the russian president vladmir putin is speak out about the special counsel
robert mueller's report on moscow's election meddling and blasting it with words we have heard coming from the white house. let's go to matthew chance. he's joining us live from moscow. putin dismissed the investigation into possible collusion calling it total nonsense. >> reporter: that's right. he continued to back the u.s. president as well despite the problems in this u.s.-russian relationship. the one thing that's constant, vladmir putin's support for his u.s. counter part. he spoke out in defense of the u.s. president and against that concludesed russian collusion probe. this is the first time vladmir putin has mentioned the mueller report in public since the russia probe was brought to its anti-climatic end. unsurprisingly the russian president was scathing in his condemnation. >> the investigation was a dark
page in american history, he told a televised panel discussion. he also reminded the audience it found none of the collusion mueller was trying to find. >> the collusion delusion is over. >> come not the first time moscow has seen in lockstep with the white house. >> are you concerned that the investigations into russia are going to turn up more secret meetings? >> please stop spreading lie and false news. >> reporter: messaging, even language probably helped fuel collusion suspicions in the first place. but the allegations of russian interference in u.s. politics remain, like this secretive trol factory in st. petersburg, where online attempts were made to amplify social discord in america and the democratic party email hacks allegedly carried out by russian military intelligence, released by
wikileaks in a bid to influence the 2016 presidential election campaign. but the u.s. attorney general's recent summary of the mueller report, in which he said didn't find evidence of a criminal conspiracy between the u.s. president and the kremlin, has left both trump and moscow feeling vindicated. and, like the u.s. president, the kremlin is on the offensive against trump's enemies. >> translator: see, what is happening is that those groups that attacked the legitimately elected president do not agree with the choice of the american people. we have never seen this in the history of the u.s. >> wouldn't it be great if we actually got along with russia? am i wrong in saying that? >> reporter: russia has already been sanctioned by the united states for its election interference. and could face more in the weeks ahead. but it continues to cast itself and president trump as victims of the same political foes. wolf, there are at least three
new sets of sanctions, potentially heading russia's way. we don't know the exact timeframe but we do know that president trump is likely to have a high degree of discretion about when and if to apply any new measures. i expect the kremlin will be choosing its words very carefully, indeed, in the weeks ahead. back to you. >> i suspect you're right. matthew chance in moscow. thanks very much. breaking news, next. early results from israel's high-stakes election. benjamin netanyahu and his rival are both claiming victory in a race that's too close to call. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today.
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more breaking news we're following. exit polls now show israel's vote is simply too close to call. netanyahu's right-wing party likud and blue and white party are each claiming victory, but each would need to enlist smaller parties to form a new government. let's go live to tel aviv. orren lieberman is joining us right now. oren, update us on the very latest. >> wolf, it's exactly because of those smaller parties that prime president benjamin netanyahu is claiming victory. he says he has their support and that's what allows him to know that his right-wing bloc,
coalition partners give him a clear path to victory. despite that a short time ago, his rival benny gantz claimed victory, essentially demanding in a democracy to have a chance to form a government. netanyahu will be speaking on his way here. we could expect him any moment now. the celebration here has begun because they're confident in what netanyahu has said, that he has the support of the parties he needs to put together a government. if that's correct, if he has the support he needs and his numbers hold up, it would give him a record fifth term in office, longest serving prime minister this summer. we'll see what he has to say when he arrives here shortly. wolf? >> the prime minister to align himself with president trump throughout this campaign. is there a strong indication that that strategy may have worked? >> reporter: i certainly would say there's a strong feeling it has worked. signs for trump for america, it was clear to all the voters here
that president donald trump apparently was blatantly or openly campaigning for netanyahu in terms of giving a major political gift in the weeks before the election. what are those? well, recognition of u.s. sovereignty of the golan heights, secretary of state mike pompeo visiting the wailing wall with netanyahu. he will take some credit there, saying it was at netanyahu's request. he was happy to play up that relationship. trump, it looks like, was happy to have that relationship played up. did it make the difference, wolf? it certainly didn't hurt by the looks of this celebration behind me. it is getting louder, perhaps an indication that netanyahu is getting closer. >> we see the prime minister and his wife, sara, there in the crowd. benny gantz, the other candidate, declaring victory. we'll see who forms the next israeli government. it will get complicated, to be
sure. oren lieberman, thank you very much. oren lieberman joining us from tel aviv. thanks for watching. follow me on twitter and instagram @wolf blitzer. tweet the show at cnn sit room. erin burnett out front starts right now. where is the transparency? plus bernie sanders, democratic socialist says he's a millionaire. this, coming from the same man who rails against millionaires and billionaires and trump versus nadler, decades-long feud that started with name calling at a trump property in new york city, and it's back. let's go out front. >> good evening, i'm erin burnett. dodge barr?