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the 2020 democrats, america hill, thanks for joining us. we're seeing things wrap up there in manchester, new hampshire, mayor pete buttigieg, taking selfies, the hour ahead complete analysis of cnn's democratic presidential town hall, five candidates for president answering those questions from the audience, which as we said was made up of students, college aged voters pressing these democrats on a variety of topics, health care, student debt, criminal justice
reform, climate change, impeachment, senators amy klobuchar, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, kamala harris and mayor pete buttigieg leaving the stage a few minutes ago. how did they do? let's check in in manchester, new hampshire. malika henderson and david axelrod. good to have you all with us tonight, a lot of energy, david chalian, in that room, which they needed to sustain over five hours, kept us engaged here, overall, what really stood out to you from these candidates tonight? >> there were a few things that stood out, erica, you mentioned them in some of the topics. i thought the answers about impeachment, post mueller report relating to the president really interesting because it seems like there's a growing chorus inside this democratic
nominating contest field that we have of these candidates for the idea of the house moving along in that direction at the very same time that nancy pelosi is sort of trying to camp that down. i thought that was interesting to hear kamala harris and pete buttigieg advance. i thought there were surprises in the night, whether it was talking about whether or not felons currently serving their prison terms in prison should be able to vote or not, that seems to have become a whole new topic of debate in this field because of the position bernie sanders took tonight and others responding to that. overall, i think you were right, health care, college affordability, these are the issues that these candidates hear about everywhere they go on the campaign trail and they heard about them tonight, the top of mind, front of mind for voters, and i think this gave an opportunity to these candidates to speak to an audience they all want to court because they see it as a critical component to a
winning coalition in the democratic nominating contest, this young vote and answering topics front of their mind was important for these candidates to do. >> we certainly heard that in some of the answers senator klobuchar making it very clear that was the youth, she said, their moment that they got democrats there in november. i want to pick up, though, on impeachment, nia-malika, each candidate was asked about that, to get through the issues on the campaign trail they have to get through the questions whether they want to or not. what senator warren stuck with a lot of people. >> there is no political inconvenience exception to the united states constitution. if any other human being in this country had done what's documented in the mueller report they would be arrested and put in jail. if there are people in the house or the senate who want to say that's what a president can do when the president is being investigated for his own wrongdoings or when a foreign
government attacks our country then they should have to take that vote and live with it for the rest of their lives. >> that last part, we are going to be hearing more of that. >> that's right. >> you see the crowd there reacting, cheering her on, elizabeth warren is probably the leader of the ideas primary, she hasn't caught on just yet in terms of polls and fund raising but there with that answer she is going to be echoed by a lot of progressives. we see in the house already saying they want impeachment. certainly grass roots voters as well who want to see impeachment. i thought she articulated it quite well, quite clearly in the way she has done with other policy issues, breaking up the big tech companies, bold policy she has, for instance, on college loan debt. so we'll see. i mean, i think she set a real line in the sand and she did this earlier, she's been the one who came out really early and
said impeachment after she read the mueller report and you see there where klobuchar was, she's like, it's not up to me. >> she said i'm on the jury. >> yeah, it's up to the house, exactly. >> and you saw kamala harris coming out further than she'd come out before in terms of impeachment, but also saying let's be practical about this, it wouldn't happen in the senate. >> and it came a bit from bernie sanders. i wanted to play what they both had to say and pick up on that. >> do you believe anything you've read and processed in that report could have the word impeachable attached to it? >> any -- first of all, i believe i'm the jury here, i'm not going to predispose things. i'm not saying it is or it isn't. there's very disturbing things that would lead you to believe there's obstruction of justice. >> here is my concern, at the end of the day what is most important to me is to see that donald trump is not reelected president. i intend to do everything i can
to make sure that doesn't happen. but if -- and this is an if. if for the next year, year and a half going right into the heart of the election all that the congress is talking about is impeaching trump, and trump, trump, trump, and mueller, mueller, mueller, what i worry about is that works to trump's advantage. >> you know -- >> got a point. >> no, and it was quite the contrast. first of all, elizabeth warren has -- i have no doubt that she believes what she said. she also understands that there may be political advantage to it. she's had a hard time getting her campaign going here. she's been leading on ideas, not leading in terms of money, not leading in terms of polls and this clearly is something she hopes will ignite people on the left. she's in a bit of a competition with bernie sanders for some of those votes. in his answer what you saw is part of the key to his appeal which is his laser like focus on economic issues and economic populism. she too, a populist, but he has
really cornered that and he's basically saying you know what these economic issues that are close to people's lives that's what i'm talking about, that's number one on my agenda. so different approaches. >> interesting, too, when we hear from kamala harris. and i want to play her response to that question. >> i believe congress should take the steps towards impeachment. i've not seen any evidence since i've been in the united states senate that the united states senate and the republicans hold the majority, i've not seen any evidence to suggest that they will weigh on the facts instead of on partisan adherence to being protective of this president and that's what concerns me and what will be the eventual outcome. we have to be realistic about what might be the end result but that doesn't mean the process should not take hold. >> the process should take hold, david chalian, congress should take the steps, is there a slight shift there? >> oh, definitely. i mean, just over the weekend
she was asked about this and did not go to this place of saying that the house should take steps. i mean, i think david axelrod hit on something there which is kamala harris is showing us she too determines it's probably smarter politics than not in terms of enlivening the progressive base of the democratic party to move in this position of saying, hey, the house should start this. and without, by the way, real political downside for these folks to take that position. for elizabeth warren to be out there, kamala harris now moving that way. we also heard buttigieg move a little bit, talking about this as well. he still says i'm going to leave this up to the house and the senate but he was in a new place after reviewing the mueller report to say, hey, they should do something. that seems to me a political play that these democrats have determined is a way to enliven the base without really much risk of anything -- any downside
for their campaign and quite frankly as kamala harris is saying without the notion that donald trump is really in danger of being pushed out of office in some way. >> to your point, though, on the language that senator harris used is real interesting. she is a very accomplished lawyer and she gives a lot of lawyerly answers. and that was lawyerly language. not he should be impeached, we should take the steps towards impeachment with a disclaimer that the senate probably wouldn't act on it and there were at least four other occasions during her answers when she was asked about tough questions, reparations, voting on the part of prisoners where her answer was, well, we should have that conversation. that's a discussion we should have. and i think that at some point this could end up being a problem. she is an incredibly compelling personality, very bright and accomplished person but she's very cautious and that caution was pretty apparent in a lot of
her answers tonight. >> it's interesting when you look the juxtaposition with her answers on voting rights for convicted commons behind bars versus what we heard from pete buttigieg, all of that came after the first person to really talk about this and this was a moment that no one saw coming, but it's certainly having a moment tonight. let's listen to what bernie sanders had to say on that question. >> i think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. yes, even for terrible people because once you start chipping away and you say that guy committed a terrible crime, not going to let him vote, oh, that person did that, not going to let that person vote, you're running down a slippery slope. >> my follow-up question goes to this, you're writing an opposition ed against you like you're saying the boston marathon bomber should vote, not after he pays his debt in
society, but while he's in jail. you sure about that? >> chris, i've written many 30 second opposition ads throughout hi life. this will be just another one. >> there is a question about whether or not this is opposition ad goal, this would perhaps work very well and it is. but -- >> let's stipulate. >> but the response is, when pete baa atuttigieg, he was ask anderson, i don't think to think about it, i'm clear, after they've done it, they've served their time, my answer is yes. >> i think senator sanders is on the wrong political end of that issue. part of his appeal, however, is that he just appears to be a guy who's speaking his mind, he's not making calculations. and that's part of it. part of buttigieg's appeal, and certainly that was apparent in that answer was he answered directly. there's an answer that's yes or no. and he said no and he explained that when you're in prison you're there and it's a punishment and you make
sacrifices. you're sacrificing your freedom and this is one of the sacrifices you have to make. i suspect he'd win that debate but both of them probably got credit for not equivocating about the question. >> and the rnc was out pretty immediately after kamala harris's equivocation with an email, the subject is kamala wants to have a conversation about the boston marathon bomber voting. right? so it is going to be an issue maybe for her, or just an equivocation, essentially saying oh this is something i need to think about. >> she might take solace in the fact they thought she was worthy of that. >> yeah. >> you know, mario cuomo, the late governor of new york used to say the only place they shoot backwards is in cowboy movies, meaning if you're ahead, they're shooting at you, if you're not, nobody is going after you. >> she's a target, that's good. >> she can take satisfaction in knowing that she's on their radar screen. >> that's a lovely place to stop our conversation briefly.
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♪ ♪ one way to stand out of voters is actually pre pretty simple, give specifics. the audience questions tonight asking for them, hitting on several issues from health care to veterans, climate change to student debt and voting rights. back with david chalian, nia-malika henderson and david axelrod. one of the things that stood out with mayor pete buttigieg ander cooper pushed him on the lack of specifics he's laid out on his website. take a look. >> i also think it's important we not drown people with minutia before we've vindicated the
values that animate our policies. as democrats this is -- we expect people to figure out what our values must be from that. i expect that it will be very easy and clear to tell where i stand on every specific policy challenge of our time, but i'm going to take the time to lay that out while also talking about values and everyday impacts. >> he's going to take a little time. he's going to figure it out. he'll get back. is that -- i mean, is that the right answer tonight? >> you know, it's the only answer he has. at this point. i guess at some point he was saying well there's going to be something on the website where you can do a search to see how i feel about something. >> then it was there. we confirmed it had been added. >> this is a problem beto o'rourke has had, where is the beef to your soaring rhetoric? in many ways beto o'rourke is better at the soaring rhetoric, the values, and explaining the values in the democratic party
than pete buttigieg is. pete buttigieg is a tech nocrat, there wasn't a lot of connection ehe made with the audience there, better at the end. it was a bunch of harvard kids, and he went to harvard. so, again, this -- he was our -- it was our five. so maybe the kids were a little tired from sitting there. but, you know, he's got to work on that. particularly because he's a young guy so he's got to come out, i think, with some policy pretty quickly. >> he's been on a rocket ride since his first cnn town hall which was really his introduction to the country and he's been on a very, very enner ha -- enger jettic media blitz. he's at that point now. he has to begin to lay out some of the particulars. now, we should point out that
most americans are not tuned into this race to that degree. he has time, just as beto o'rourke has time, we tend to judge these things in the moment. and he's gotten off to a great start. but there are limits to that booster rocket stage and he's about -- he's about arrived at it. >> you know, as you're bringing this up -- >> david, don't i remember barack obama in 2007? correct me if i'm wrong, david, but sort of shunning the idea that white papers were needed as he was first starting out his campaign on every policy? >> yeah, i also remember, david, and you will too, that he stumbled, he went to a town hall in las vegas on health care. >> yeah. >> and did very, very poorly and there were a lot of people who were saying, you know, maybe he's not up to this. maybe the beef isn't there. and over the coming months he kind of leveraged his way back in, the debates helped him do that. so we should point out we're at mile two of a 26-mile marathon.
>> right. >> and so people will fall behind and catch up, people will go ahead and fall behind. but i do think that buttigieg has had a remarkable run here. but he's going to have to -- he's going to have to turn the page now and get to the next act. >> like any marathon never discount the last point two, that's when we know. as we're looking at this and we need more -- we're talking about how we need more specifics, you brought this up briefly at the top of the hour, david, but you tweeted earlier that kamala harris, i believe your words were, likes to study stuff because we heard that from her a number of times. we pulled a few of those moments. >> elizabeth warren is here, as you know, she said that she supports student loan forgiveness for 42 million americans. >> yeah. >> would you go that far, do you support that? >> i support anything that is about reducing the debt of student loans, that's an important conversation to have. >> do you support financial reparations. >> i support that we study that.
>> do you think americans have the right to vote at age 16? >> i'm interested in having that conversation. >> a lot of conversations and studying happening. >> she is very cautious and lawyerly at times. she can be soaring and charismatic. when she gets a question she's not sure about she tends to go to that refuge. and that -- you know, the thing -- i said a long time ago that presidential races are mris for the soul. like, whoever you are people kind of scope that out and this will become a noticed thing. you have to come and you have to be ready to answer these questions honestly and openly. and maybe the onto answer is, you know, i haven't thought about that. >> right. >> but -- >> it would seem more and more, as people become more transparent they want that kind of answer. >> i think that sort of a authenticity is absolutely essential, ultimately, if you're going to be successful in a presidential race. >> i thought her energy and passion tonight really set her
apart. in some ways i think a lot of the other candidates, there was a nervousness, there was not necessarily connecting with the audience. i thought when she came out she kind of bounded on stage, connected with the audience, told some personal stories, talked about her own life and her own record. so i thought she did herself some real good there. i think i began to see her in a different light. one of the, i think, raps on her is that she didn't necessarily have the retail political skills a lot of other folks have, she's been attorney general, a different thing than if you're mayor or senator. yeah, i thought in that way there was a warmth in her tonight. >> she also made a -- she made news tonight by saying she would issue an executive order on guns. >> she did, yeah. >> if congress didn't act within 100 days of her presidency on background checks. so that was -- that was clearly something she planned to do. she came out and she did it. >> speaking of planning, i'm
going to guess this was planned because there was a town hall. i was going to say, david, it sets us up, senator warren releasing her proposal today to really cancel out student debt. you can see the details there on the screen, but cancelling up to $50,000 in student loan debt based on income for folks making $100,000 or less. she also talked very specifically, this is always the question, of course, how do you pay for it? here's her plan. >> i started in several months ago talking about a wealth tax, an ultra millionaire's tax, it's two cents on every dollar of the great fortunes above $50 million. so your 50 millionth and first dollar you've got to pay two cents and two cents on all of the dollars after that. and here's the stunning part, if we ask the great fortunes in this country and understand this isn't about trying to be nasty
or say that you've done anything wrong what it's about is saying, look you had a great idea, you got out there, you've worked hard or you've inherited well, whichever one it was. >> david chalian, one of the things that really stuck -- pardon me, stuck out to me there is her language. it's not that she's prepared and she's got this, we know she wants to be the policy wonk here in this race, she's saying two cents, not 2%, we're talking about pennies, this is very carefully chosen. >> oh, without a doubt. and, in fact, i think if you look over time she has shifted to that. when she first rolled out the policy of the big wealth tax that she had put out there was, you know, 2% on those in the over 50 million range and then 3% on billionaires. but now she's incorporating much more of this notion of putting that in perspective for people and using, as you said, well crafted language, saying we're
talking about two cents on the dollar for the dollars over 50 million. she's trying to make a policy proposal many people think would be very hard to get through congress and would be in the current set-up, trying to make it more relatable and appealing for people and that kind of language can help for that. i think elizabeth warren by coming in and rolling out that policy on this day to this crowd of college students, that was no accident. and that was probably a pretty shrewd political move for her tonight because it's a hugely important issue to these folks. >> it was either a shrewd move or stunningly good luck. >> i'm going to go with shrewd and well planned. >> you know what was really interesting to me was back to back elizabeth warren and bernie sanders because they're really in many ways they're going after the same voter. they have the same outlook, the same sort of populist outlook.
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five democratic presidential candidates speaking directly to voters, tonight in the audience college-age voters, students asking those questions. so who was able to best communicate their message? david chalian, nia-malika henderson and david axelrod back with us. as we listen to different moments, there's been a lot said and a lot made of what we've been hearing in recent weeks from pete buttigieg in relation to mike pence.
>> you got into a public back and forth between vice president pence and yourself over discriminations over lgbtq people and faith. richard gre nell weighed in on this saying you've been "pushing this hate hoax along the lines of jussie smollett long time -- >> i know bait when i see it and i'm not going to take it. >> all right, our next question -- >> he wasn't taking it. david chalian, how did that go over there in the hall? >> it was one of the biggest crowd pleasing lines of the night for this audience and i think, you know, what that shows right there, right, that is part of why, as david axelrod was describing buttigieg has had
these rocket boosters on because that's raw political skill right there to have rick grenell trolling him and his refusal to get reengaged in a way with somebody who's not vice president pence makes little sense to him and he was able to dispatch with that pretty quickly. i will say, though, the larger battle that we saw buttigieg having with pence, you know, i think probably works politically for both pence and buttigieg. and i think they both realize that so they sort of seem to be over the course of their back and forth i thought a real understanding that it was working for each of their political needs. >> it's not going anywhere anytime soon is what i'm also reading between the lines there from you. as we're looking at the way people were connecting, amy klobuchar was up first, the senator seemed a little nervous, i will say in the beginning, clearly trying to connect with her audience, not all of those moments seemed to work. take a listen.
>> i am someone that runs in a purple state. it is a state that when i first started running for office the other senator was republican, the governor was republican and three of our four constitutional offers were republican. and then i started running. and every single time i have run i have won every single congressional district in my state, including michelle bookman's, okay, that's when you guys are supposed to cheer. so i -- >> that is a good moment, right, for her to lay it out like that and saying i am the person who can win in all of these places but you don't want to tell people to cheer, david. >> that was the jeb bush moment, remember that, when he said you can clap now. that was not a good moment. but on the whole that was a strong answer for her and she did show flashes of humor, one of which was at the expense of our colleague chris cuomo when he was trying to get her to
finish an answer. so that was to her benefit. she's a moderate and she's selling herself as a moderate and she's talking to an audience there of young people, the harvard poll said that 80% of them said they'd rather be with someone who reflects their points of view than someone who argues they can beat the president. this wasn't necessarily her crowd, she was really speaking to the broader audience out there. her argument is i'm a midwestern center left politician who has a better chance of winning those states that president trump carried to win the presidency in 2016. >> and you saw that in her answers in the impeachment answer basically she's on the senate side let the house take care of that in terms of whether or not they want to file articles of impeachment and you saw that in terms of her answer about college and she said at one point listen i can't staple
a college diploma onto the bottom of your seats, an impractical idea that you can forgive student loan debt, make college free, public colleges free. >> and that's got appeal too, rooted in the midwestern, you know, it's not just -- >> hard work and all that stuff. >> it's about let's be honest with where we stand right here. we can't afford that, we're not doing it. hey, i'd love to, but there's something to be said for that. >> it's that midwestern practicality that she's running on. these harvard students are more likely with folks like bernie, if you look at early polls out of the harvard institute of the iop a lot of them are with bernie at this point. >> she could have gotten more out of that moment if she had been even more direct right from the start of that answer about elizabeth warren saying no, i don't agree with that and this is why. and she sort of danced around it
a little bit and she tried to be the truth teller. tried to put the pill in the applesauce sort of. and that's not -- you either have to be the truth teller or not. >> listening to all of this, i found it interesting senator warren was asked what she learned from hillary clinton in 2016. and concerns about sexism and her answer actually went back a little bit further and may have surprised a fair amount of people. take a listen. >> so every day when i saw a little girl i would come up and i'd usually get down, i'm a teacher, and i would say hi, my name is elizabeth. and i'm running for senate. because that's what girls do. and then we would pinky swear to
remember. and so every night when i went home no matter what the day had been like i would count up how many pinky swears we'd done during the day. >> david chalian, how is that playing? >> you know, i thought it was a pretty good moment for her and quite frankly i think elizabeth warren had a really strong night. i think as a story teller and performer i think when you look at the field across the board and watch them campaigning on the trail right now she's one of the most consistent performers on that score. i will tell you her campaign thought so much of that moment that that's what they clipped and sent out to their supporters. they're hoping that brings in some dollars, brings in some email addresses and organizing effort because what you didn't see elizabeth warren do there, which i thought was interesting in how she answered that question, erica, was she did not touch the hillary clinton piece of that at all.
the question was, are you going to be hillaried? and she just went into an entirely different direction, did not seem to want to sort of associate herself with hillary clinton or in any way relitigate 2016 but instead wanted to tell what she thinks is an inspirational story from her life on the trail and it's one her campaign clearly thinks can give them a bit of an advantage. >> an aside on this, but she talked about being a teacher, you know i was a teacher and she talked earlier about having studied to become a special needs teacher which she did briefly in her life and all throughout she was referring to herself as a teacher but she never mentioned the last 30 years or so she's spent teaching at harvard university in a room full of harvard students. there's a reason for that as well. that, i don't think they feel is a credential they want to burnish out there. she's trying to be a tribune of everyday people and that's a
kind of separation that she doesn't want to accentuate. >> it's a marker of elitism. she was at harvard -- even though she was there in front of a lot of harvard kids it wasn't a card she wanted to play because, again, she likes to talk about her hard scrabble roots in oklahoma. >> all legitimate. >> it's all legitimate and she tells it very effectively. you've seen her out on the stump, people really connect with the stories she tells about growing up and dropping out of college, and her first marriage went bad and all those kinds of stories. >> her biography is foundational for her politics and there's no question about it. david says she's a great story teller. my question is, is she too good a story teller? every answer feels like a ted talk to me, and is it too polished? is it too practiced? does it seem too much like a performance and not an answer? i don't know the question -- i don't know the answer to that. but, you know, she's had some problems connecting, maybe not
in the room, but certainly broadly to this point and i wonder if that's a barrier because the policy is there, the biography is there, all the ind greedients should be there for her to do very well. >> this in some ways relates to the question of gender, right, can a woman actually breakthrough? if you look at all of the polls, and let's be honest it's early, i mean the folks who are leading the polls, biden, bernie sanders, there was a poll out of new hampshire more recently, a small stamp size, but i think mayor pete was doing pretty well in this poll, there is this conversation going on among democrats, among -- democrats of all stripes, african-americans, latinos, white voters as well, can a woman actually win? after the heartbreak that many democrats experienced in 2016 maybe they want to go with a safer choice this go round and the safer choice looks more like biden and more like somebody like bernie sanders, a white male. >> with all of these democrats,
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the five candidates you heard from tonight have the same goal, they want to beat president trump in 2020. back and david chalian, nia-malika henderson and david axelrod. looking at the polling, bernie sanders is consistently at the top and he was asked specifically tonight why is it he thinks that young voters are really still looking to bernie sanders. here's his answer. >> your generation, unless we turn things around, will be the first generation in the modern history of america to have a lower standard of living than your parents. we have seen an explosion in worker productivity but everything being equal many people in your generation will earn less money than your parents, you're going to leave school more deeply in debt than your parents, you're going to have a harder time finding affordable housing than your
parents. i think those are some of the reasons why our message has resonated with young people. >> it's still early but even earlier than tonight on here david chalian, a lot of what we talked about when we looked at polling was also name recognition. the fact that bernie sanders is well-known among young voters and the support he had in 2016. is this about name recognition or the fact that they believe he identifies with their policy and his vision? david chalian. >> it's a of both/and kind of thing. it's a bit of both, erica. i don't want to diminish bernie sanders support and say he's only riding high in the polls because of name recognition. he formed a real base of support and there is a big chunk of that support that is showing back up for him again this cycle, going
to what david axelrod was saying about -- he seems to have a hold on them which is making it, i think, difficult for her to get a foothold and make real traction. so it is partially that he is certainly, of all the people on the stage, one of the best known if not the best known. but also, as you noted, this was part of his co liealition, the h vote in 2016 against hillary clinton, he won those millennials and he has been able to keep that conversation going with them over the course of the last four years, and many of them are still finding him an appealing choice at this stage of the game. >> it's kind of paradoxical. he's 79 years old and he is favored by so many young people. and part of it is that he speaks in -- he is not an incrementalist. for those impatient for solutions he does not speak in incremental solutions. he talks about big bold structural reforms. but i'll say, you know, last time he had the field to himself
it was -- it was bernie sanders versus hillary clinton. now not just elizabeth warren but competing for these younger voters you have kamala harris, you have pete buttigieg, you have beto o'rourke. he's if i were him that this was this is his solid and base. >> something else that stood out. kamala harris asked about her comment about winning back midwest voters. >> the conversation that all of us have been hearing. especially the 2020 election. which is a conversation saying who can talk to the person in the midwest. i just reject that notion. that you have one conversation with someone in the midwest and another conversation with somebody in the south and another conversation on the coast. i reject that notion.
it is short sided, and it is actually not connected with where people really are. the american public don't want that. they don't want that. >> this is a version of obama's line about there's no red america or blue america. there's the united states of america. which got huge applause when he delivered this line. in 2004. clearly what she's talking about without really saying it, the idea is can she appeal to voters in the midwest who are white. right? can a black woman who is from california who has a certain record of progressive record out there can she appeal to the working class white guy who works in a factory. or a waitress. or white woman wratsz or something like that. or appeal to black voters in the south. we don't know. that's the conversation that
everybody is having. does it take a white man to appeal to those voters or can she do it the way obama did. he put together a broad coalition. >> he was from illinois. the state next to iowa. which made it easy for him. the other way there's no doubt that there are many people in the country and democrats who are tired of being divided. feel the president has been a devicive force. she was speaking to them. it would be read as a rebuke for example the senator klobuchar who made a pronounced effort at this town hall to say i'm the one who can win the midwest voters in a sense what senator harris is saying that's the wrong way to go. >> this stood out to you. so senator warren was asked why she shifted from being republican to democrat. she talked about her experience working on bankruptcy and here's
how she laid it out. >> by the end of that fight i pully understood that every single republican stood there from the bank and half of the democrats did. so my party was the party that hat least we got half of them to stand up for working people. that was a big change for me. >> bankruptcy bill of 2005. which really advantaged credit card companies and one of the promoent poents of that legislation was joe widen. senator in delaware. where the companies are many of them are headquartered. i expect this was a shot across the bow at the vice president. who were told is going it enter the race. it's something we can expect to hear from senator warren as we move along. >> it's fascinating to watch that. just the sheer volume of what we
saw tonight. the fact that each one of the candidates is going back to back. what was fascinating is watch each one pick up what had come before. not just in the questioning but in the way they seem to be reacting to the answers that came baefore and the audience. >> it was the first opportunity of this cycle so far. and again we are in the early stages. to start sizing them up against each other. this is why the points that david were making before about kamala harris's caution and whether or not it's a liability. in a slow low event that may not have been quite as glaring as on a night when there are several competitors who were answering much many directly on some questions. you all of a sudden are starting to see this next phase of this campaign. where these folks are going fob
sized up against each other. here it was in succession on this same stage before the same audience. we're only a few weeks away from the first debate where they will be on the stage together. and really mixing it up. i think this afforded us a new opportunity and new lens to which we can start assessing candidates. >> it was great to watch. and always fun to talk about it all with the three of you. thank you. thanks to you at home for watching. our live coverage continues right after this. up. up. down. down. ah ah! that's one. up. that's two. down. down. get down, get down. and relief from symptoms caused feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals
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