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it has changed big time with information vice president joe biden now in the contest. biden directly taking aim at president trump and the president hitting back. now some of the biden's democratic rivals are pouncing on his record. cnn has learned that president trump is quote i rxed that the democratic field seems to be stealing the spotlight. >> folks are talk about people other than president trump. >> it's different than the past two years. >> it is different. we could see more of it. joe biden with the big roll out over the last 24 hours with a dramatic video. there have been some vulnerabilities that are now at the forefront. his campaign did reveal that the former vice president called anita hill. we're told he expressed regret for quote what she endured when he chaired the clarence thomas hearings. hill said biden still does not understand the damage he caused. joining us now is cnn political reporter who is covering the
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biden campaign. david gregory cnn political analyst and, cnn senior political reporter. we're mid-roll out. you're in new york because joe biden whom you cover very closely is about to be on the v view in a few hours. those are the positives that biden team wanted to get out there. then the anita hill phone call. i don't know whether they wanted that information out there yesterday or not. >> right. our colleague was the one who asked the deputy campaign manager whether biden had, in fact, spoken with anita hill since those hearings back in 1991. she reveals that they did. this is a question that theed by enteam knew they were going to face at some point. they didn't think it would be on day one, but they have been preparing for this. there are going to continue to be more questions. you laid out the ways that biden has expressed regret but anita
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hill has said that's not enough. just simply saying i'm sorry for what happened to you is not enough. so biden will continue to have to answer these guess going forward. we'll see if later today if he's potentially asked about it. "the view" is a little bit of a friendly audience for bidden but that could be an opportunity for him to talk about this further. >> we had former governor ed rendell of pennsylvania on. he was there as well. he said that it exceeded expectations. his estimate, we haven't heard direct numbers, they had hoped for half a million dollars at the fundraiser. he says they think they got three quarters of a million dollars. we'll see when they put out the direct numbers. that would be strong out of the gate. >> biden team knows they have to raise a large amount of money. bien even before this all started held a conference call with donors and supporter telling them we need a strong showing right out of the gate.
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i saw an email they sent out at 8:30 last night telling me we need 5,500 more donors by midnight to post a big figure. biden has not been a prolific fundraiser and he certainly is not a small donor grassroots powerhouse in the way that bernie sanders and others are. so those numbers will be watched very closely. >> bernie sanders, senator from vermont raised nearly $6 million right away when he entered the race. let's talk about bernie sanders. bernie sanders known to occasionally his supporters behind-the-scenes throw sharp elbows and not so behind-the-scenes. the sanders campaign put out a press release based on biden's fundraiser last night with the comcast executive. this is what it said. it's a big day in the democratic primary and we're hoping to end it strong not with a fundraiser in the home of a corporate lobbyist but with an overwhelming number of individual donations in response to today's news. i thought it was interesting not
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even 24 hours in the sanders campaign officially decided to throw a bit of a hay make there are. >> classic bernie sanders always on message. he's a bit of a fighter as well. this is one of his issues, right, that the millionaires and billionaires control too much of politics. he wants to highlight what he thinks is a direction that the democratic party shouldn't go in, being cozy in this case with someone who is with a corporation as biden did. listen, this is the way that biden is going to raise money. he doesn't have the sort of strong online social media presence as somebody like bernie sanders has and it is going to be a dividing line. a dividing line between bernie sanders and biden. dividing line between elizabeth warren as well and a lot of other folks in this who want to say the democratic party shouldn't be in the pockets of big corporations. and biden will have to contend with that. some voters don't care.
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biden, at least for now is sitting on about 30% of the democratic voting public, at least according to polls. we'll see if that changes. but he's going to have to contend. we've seen this already from sanders. warren was also poking at biden's past, being cozy with bankruptcy bill that he supported. this is a preview. >> let's play that, david. her point is this isn't a new fight that she's having with joe biden. she's been having this conflict with him for years. listen to this. >> at a time when the biggest financial institutions in this country tried to put the squeeze of millions of hard-working families who are in bankruptcy, there was nobody to stand up for them, i got in that fight because they didn't have anyone. joe biden is on the side of
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credit card companies. >> david, give us the big picture of everything that's happened in the past 24 hours. >> we're seeing the contours of a changed race. i think it's joe biden and everyone else. it could end up being two lanes with bernie sanders and what he represents of the new progressive wing of the democratic party and joe biden who is a bridge to an older democratic party. even though he hopes to have a halo of being barack obama's vice president. this is really a choice for democrats around do you go with who is most electable, who can beat trump, who can bring the kind of restorative power to politics that many believe biden can or ideological party it's time for the party to go in a new direction on a series of issues including reckoning with big social forces like me too. and i think, allison, to your earlier point this morning, on "the view" this morning, i look for bidden to actually have a
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coherent response, not just to the anita hill hearings but to what the country has gone through in the past couple of years around me too. is he ready to really explain that, to reckon with it in a way that's going to resonate with particularly younger voters in a democratic party. that's the big picture. that's the fight that will immediately take shape is which side of the divide in the democratic party are your on? >> it's a real test. this interview will be a real test for exactly the reason that you're laying out there which he had time. delayed this announcement until now. he had time to think about what he wants to say in this first interview. how will he address these issues? >> if you base it on the phone call as related by anita hill he hasn't thought enough about it. he hasn't given enough thoughtful kind of depth to this because, you know, i mean just to incorporate everybody up to speed. they had different interpretations. she felt he said i'm sorry for
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what you endured instead of i'm sorry for what i put you through. >> this is biden's most consistent issue on anita hill. some see it his own failures to bring corroborating witnesses to control some of the questioning from republicans. but it was classic biden back in the day. he was all about bipartisanship. he was all about both sides feeling that they were heard and that's the kind of hearing that ended up happening. democrats, obviously, in retrospect and at the time many of those folks weren't happy. but listen biden has always essentially said she's an owed an apology. sound like he's still on that, sort of half apology and not acknowledging his own role. >> i agree. my slightly different view is he doesn't want to apologize. here's the question i would ask on "the view" is given his approach to anita hill, would he
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be that much different when he thinks about the kavanaugh hearing or declare somehow kavanaugh was wrong and that even committee approached to him was wrong in a way that he wasn't with anita hill? that will be interesting to see. but i think in the broader scheme he feels he doesn't have to apologize. there's those around him don't go down this apology tour about the '90s because it won't be good for you. >> again covering this fundraiser last night he talked about the notion of apologies. >> at the end of the fundraiser he was talking about how excited he is to be in this race. then he made this comment. this is good and bad but i am always going to tell you what i'm thinking. and at the end of that he said, he's talking about like oh, he has this joke like i'm going to tell you exactly what i think. i'll be completely honest with you. as the old joke goes nobody ever doubts that i mean what i say, sometimes i say all that i mean but i make no apologies.
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he was talking about the fact that he always shares his mind at all time but that is something that you do see kind of this theme at times with biden he's not necessarily apologizing for thing that he has done in his past because he may not think they were relevant. >> i'm watching for what language he chooses. we'll know whether he wants to give a bigger apology. >> does he back track? that's the question. that's an old mccain line. you may not agree with me but i'll always tell the truth. will he stake that ground or give a little bit and if not totally apologize back track. that will be something to watch. >> i want to show one other thing. he's going on theview. the former vice president has a relationship with megan mclane. biden went on "the view" before and had a very emotional moment at that point over senator mccain. watch this. >> one of the things that gave both courage my word was john.
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your dad, you may remember, you were a little kid, your dad took care of my beau. your dad became friends with beau, and beau talked about your dad's courage not about illness, about his courage. >> i think people look at that as the vice president's superpower unquestioned empathy. >> that's why his team points ability to connect with people. you know i recently sat down with one of biden's closest friends. the chief of staff for nearly two decades in the senate. he pointed out to me that biden has a lot of character. he said that's because of moments of difficulty that he's gone through his life according to the death of his wife and daughter when he was just 29 years old, just elected to the senate and then in 2015 of his son beau biden. ted kaufman told me he's someone
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who is comfortable in his skin and not all political candidates are like that. i think this appearance on "the view" maybe they are hoping can remind people of that human being that is joe biden. >> things are getting very interesting. thank you very much for giving us your take. repent that's the message from one of president trump's most vocal evangelical supporters to the nation's first gay candidate. that's next. the exercise. the fiber. month after month, and i still have belly pain and recurring constipation. so i asked my doctor what else i could do, and i said yesss to linzess. linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzess is not a laxative, it works differently. it helps relieve belly pain and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements. do not give linzess to children less than 6, and it should not be given to children 6 to less than 18,
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joe biden is kicking off his presidential campaign in the state where he was born, pennsylvania, which is a key, maybe the key battleground state that democrats hope to retake after president trump turned it red in 2016. a source tells cnn that the state is at the root of the president's concerns about joe biden's candidacy. we want to bring in rick santorum former republican senator from the commonwealth of pennsylvania. also former presidential candidate and cnn political commentator. senator thanks for being with us right now. why do you think or what should the concern that president trump has over joe biden and pennsylvania be? >> well, i mean joe biden, at least he's trying to stake out a position of being a more centrist democrat. that's the kind of democrat that can do very well in pennsylvania. and, you know, if you look at
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even my own race, when i lost re-election, the guy that defeated me ran as someone who was very much a moderate democrat and, you know, as a republican you've got to pull democratic votes if you're going to win in pen. the democratic votes you pull are more conservative or moderate democrats. they will vote republican. they did for president trump. they did for me on a couple of occasions. but they are still democrats. if they have someone that they feel is more aligned with them from the standpoint of, you know, of some of these issues that are, that joe biden is trying to attach to, sort of the blue collar conservative type of issues, they are going to stay home and that's what donald trump has to worry about with biden. >> i spoke with a strategist over the last couple of weeks and they say the president might be in a little bit of trouble there. he has increased his position there since the last election and maybe slipped a little bit and that's in particular why joe biden could be such a threat. do you see that?
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>> you know, look. i think it's way too early to determine what the strength of the president is. i think his numbers have been overall since the election. i don't doubt that they are down in pennsylvania right now. but they are down because the opponent hasn't been identified. and donald trump won pennsylvania because of the message that he had. also because he was running against hillary clinton. and so you have to wait and see who the democrats put up. if they put up somebody like bernie sanders or harbc kamala . >> should the president be scared of joe biden in pennsylvania? >> i think of the candidates that are out there right now, from the standpoint of looking at them and the policies that they hold, yes, he's probably the one that's the most disconcerting. however, and i said this repeatedly, joe biden is his own worse enemy when it comes to his
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campaign. it's not just the positions you hold and the approach that you take it's how you hold up under the scrutiny. so far he doesn't do a very good job over that. >> senator, pete buttigieg the mayor of south bend, indiana is running for president, is gay and married. this is something that franklin graham the evangelist, son of billy graham has started talking about. he always talks about his faith a great deal. this is what frank lynch graham said. mayor pete buttigieg said he's a guy christian. as a christian i believe the bible who defines homosexual as a sin. not something to be flaunted, praise d or politicalized. is it appropriate for him to weigh in? >> he's a religious leader. he's not a politician. he's someone who like his father is out there, you know, leading a congregation or a religious
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movement. so he's talking biblically. that's his right to do so. this is really the interesting dynamic we have here on this whole issue of religious liberty and ability for christians to speak in the public square about what their faith dictates. you can say well i don't agree with reverend graham but he has the right to put forth what his faith is instructing him to do. >> it seems like there is some relativism in his faith, though, because he's calling on pete buttigieg to repent for being gay, yet he's an after denrdent thrice married president trump. >> you have every right to call him out on that. if he says that about pete buttigieg then when donald trump's accusations come up
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about marital infidelity and other things that's equally as sinful and making a comment about that. i don't know. he may have done that. so i don't want to, you know, castigate reverend graham because he may have made those kind of comments when trump's infidelity has couple. he should be equal in calling out a similar sin. >> infidelity you're saying is a similar sin as being gay? >> well that's what the christian religion teaches that this is, you know, both are violations of the traditional and sacred bonds of marriage that -- outside of marriage is sinful behavior, yes. >> people will look at that, senator, say infidelity, adultery is a choice but people are born gay. >> again, i'm just talking about what the church teaches. i'm not making a comment about
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what people think or not. i'm telling you the church and what reverend graham is articulating is what his church and most christian churches hold that biblical view. >> do you think people are born gay? >> you know, i'm not an expert in this area. i don't know. the answer is, you know, we have to be loving and tolerant of everybody. everybody is due respect and love and should be treated with dignity and respect and whether they choose it or not, i don't know. i don't care. i treat people with dignity and respect no matter who they are. >> let me play you pete buttigieg talking about his faith because it is something he talks about a lot. listen. >> it can be challenging to be a person of faith who is also part of the lgbtq community. yet to me the core of faith is regard for one another and part of how god's love is experienced
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according to my faith tradition is in the way that we support one another and in particular support the least among us. >> i know your faith is very important to you. in listening to mayor pete buttigieg it's very important to him as well. what do you make of the way he talks about it. >> he's talking about something that is a clear at ttenet of christian teaching which is to love your neighbor and love them as i love you. that's very much a core christian teaching and i respect that. you know, i have differences, there are different faith traditions. my tradition, you know, aligns, the catholic church is very clear in teaching on all sorts of, you know, sexual issues. and that's where i hold. having said that the catholic church also teaches we're to love and respect everyone. we are all sinners.
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and, you know, we're all loved by god and forgiven. that's for our transgression. >> do you think headliomosexuals a sin? >> that's what the catholic church teaches. i subscribe to the catholic church teaching. that's an important issue. are we allowed to believe what our church teaches us and articulate that or is that considered hate speech? i don't think it is. i consider myself and know myself to be a sinner and everybody has their faults and, you know, we all have to atone for that. but he has every right to go out there and articulate his christian believes and i think he did so rather articulately. >> you're not saying homosexuality is a fault. you're saying being gay is a fault? >> we keep coming back -- >> i'm not trying to catch you. i want to be clear. >> look i'm a catholic and
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adhere to the catholic teaching on sexuality. so, yes, i would say that, you know, when you divert away from what the church teaching, what the role and unique role of sexuality is within church teachings, that's a departure that you can call a sin, you can call fault, whatever you want to call it. it's not what the church teachings is the right way to engaging sexual activity and that's the position i take. >> senator rick santorum thanks for being with us. joe biden making charlottesville and president trump's response to the violence there a focal point of his campaign video. so how does the mother of the woman killed in those protests feel about that? she joins us live next. i'm working to make each day a little sweeter.
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joe biden take a direct shot at president trump condemning the president's claim that there were quote very fine people on both sides of the deadly protests between white supremacists and counter protesters in charlottesville. here's a moment. >> we were met by a courageous group of americans and a violent
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clash ensued. and a brave young woman lost her life. and that's when we heard the words of the president of the united states that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation. >> all right joining us now is susan, the mother of heather who was killed during the charlottesville protests. also the president and chairman of the heather heyer foundation. nice to see you again. tell us about your morning yesterday when you, how did you discover that former vp biden had made the story of heather's death one of the focal points of his campaign launch? >> i started getting phone calls about 20 after 7:00 in the morning from the press saying how do you feel about this? i rolled over and looked at my phone and said feel about what? i was sound asleep. >> and how, once you figured out what they were talking about and gathered your thoughts how did you feel about it?
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>> i guess i'm not surprised. it seems like charlottesville has been a defining moment for a lot of people. i don't think we've seen him in town. i don't think he's ever been here or maybe he has in the past. i don't know. it was just sort of a feeling of well here we go again because it's referred to so often in news articles, stories. it will show up at the most unexpected moment. i'll be watching something on tv and there it will be again. so it happens a lot. >> of course, it's never far from your mind and your heart. did former vp biden call you about this? >> i got a call from him yesterday at 4:30 in the afternoon. that was the first time i had ever spoken to joe biden or anybody related to his office or
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anything. >> what did he say? >> i was trying to remember how the conversation started. i remember we talked a lot about bereavement because he lost a son and a wife and daughter, and we talked about how forming the foundation helps you survive. but that's really all the kinds of things we talk about. i think he said something about i would have reached out sooner but i wasn't sure how you would feel. and i commented yes i noticed you didn't mention her name because you hadn't contacted me. so we sort of acknowledged that much. >> do you wish that he had mentioned her name? >> not particularly. it's not about her. the issue is about the hate. it's not about heather. >> yeah. so was he calling for your approval, or to make sure that you were okay? i mean what was the upshot of
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his call? >> probably to make sure i was okay. apparently there were rumors rolling that i was devastated and traumatized and none of those things are true. i think it was traumaizing for some other people in charlottesville to suddenly have that thrown up at them on the screen and i did mention that to him that probably had triggered some other people. >> meaning who? like heather's friends or who are you referring to? >> survivors. people who were there on the ground both times for those actual living scenes and not just the video. >> when you and i last spoke it was right after the conviction of heather's killer and you were talking about the foundation and you were talking about your life mission and you felt that you didn't want heather's voice and her message to be silenced and you felt that you wanted to fight against hate. so i wonder today now that
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you've had a chance to process it a little bit, do you feel that the vice president has done you a favor in some ways by amplifying her message, or do you wish this weren't part of the political dialogue? >> i think it has to be part of the political dialogue. because this is a very serious problem in our country, not only do we deal with hate crime, we have to deal with the reporting of haste crite crime. i'm not sure most people are aware none of the 40 injured that day when heather was killed, none of that was reported in the fbi statistics as a hate crime for 2017. >> why not? >> there are loopholes in the reporting, and the way the system is set up, the vast majority of hate crimes are not reported. so i do think it is something that needs to be discussed. we're obviously not allocating enough resources to deal with
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the problem because we don't even know what the problem is. i recently spoke to virginia advisory board on hate crimes at the u.s. commission on civil rights and i said a doctor cannot diagnose or treat a patient unless they know at the symptoms. our country cannot properly deal with a hate crime until we know how many and how large the problem is. >> yeah. susan, we appreciate and applaud you for keeping this front of mind for people, that there are hate crimes out there and what constitutes a hate crime. thank you very much for sharing your personal reflexes in all of this with us. >> thank you so much for having me. students and staff at two california university campuses are under quarantine because of measles. the latest on the record outbreak. that's next.
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>> breaking news. . the commerce department released its report card on the economy for the first part of the year. really big newspapers. >> solid growth for the first
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quarter of this year, 3.2%. 3.2% for the first three months of this year. this is unexpectedly higher. what powered it? state and local government spending, business investment, u.s. exports and consumer spending. consumer spending was a big concern because we did see consumer spending drop-off in the fourth quarter and then at the beginning of the first quarter but then we saw retail numbers bounce back in march. that really helped power that number to 3.2%. interestingly enough this happened during a quarter where most of the quarter the government was shut down from the first of the year, first of january to 25th. longest government shutdown in history but didn't have any effect on growth. one thing we'll be keeping an eye on is boeing. boeing is not a trivial company when it comes to the economy. you think about what happened in march. boeing went ahead and grounded all of its max 737 jets. not only grounded them it
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stopped deliveries. it makes a big difference to the u.s. economy because it amounts to $300 billion in value per year. that's 1.8% of gdp. if boeing goes ahead and halts production of hates max 737 jet it could chop off about .6% of gdp. thank you very much for that update. really interesting numbers. here's your health now. more than 100 students and staff understand quarantine at two public universities in california after being exposed to measles at ucla and california state university los angeles. cdc says 2019 is the worst for the disease since measles was thought to have been eliminated nearly two decades ago. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now with more. >> reporter: so, yeah. it's worth adding we're only four months into the year and we're already at the worst numbers in two decades. this is sort of how things are evolving. measles as we've been talking about several times on your
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program is very contagious. if i wasn't vaccinated i sat next to someone who had measles i would have a 90% chance much getting measles. that's how contagious it is. you get somebody with measles on campus at ucla, potentially a lot of people exposed. these are college students. they were asked can you be certain that you've been up m immuni immunized. most students over 100 said we're not sure and that's what's leading to this quarantine. put people who may now develop measles as a result of exposure into quarantine so they don't respect this. john, as you said, two decades ago in the year 2000 this was effectively eliminated. they were coming with these policies as things go along in california, in new york, in washington all across the country.
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>> is that the answer? what is the solution here? quarantine people? is there any other solution to stop this outbreak. >> i don't want to sound glib but getting vaccinated is the solution. even for they students at this point, one of the questions that will come up, okay, you're not certain that you've been vaccinated. should they go ahead and give booster shots to these students. for two reasons. they will be certain they are vaccinated. there's some evidence that even post-exposure to measles if you get the vaccine it can be helpful both in reducing the likelihood of developing measles and reducing the severity of the measles if you do get it. you know in the short term those are sort of going to be the answers. but the longer term thing, allison here is you need about 95% of the country to be immunized in order to basically not have this continue to spread. we're below that number in certain counties in the united
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states. not the whole country. but in certain places around the united states. what they need to prestrength from happening now and you've looked at the map, 22 states affected, they have to prevent this from becoming endemic, something that spread within the united states again. then they are going ask you, john, me, everybody are you certain that you've been immunized. do you know for sure. if you're not certain get another shot. >> thank you very much for the update on this troubling story. so what happens when victims and their offenders of violent crimes meet face-to-face? vann jones sploers that with his new cnn series the redemption project. >> and the highly-anticipated fourth season of united shades of america. he'll come out and join us live next. are you an ocean?
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this sunday night, we premiere our new lineup of the redemption project with van jones. takes you through a powerful journey for the restorative process. an effort of healing and forgiveness, and w. kamau bell is back with an all new season of united shades of america, introducing us to unique communities around the world. we're joined now. >> great to have you guys here. these look fantastic. >> i'm so excited. first of all, i love united shades of america, and van, i love the entire idea of this show. i want to play a little clip. >> my actions started the cycle of violence. >> he took the love and what my
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life could have been like. i want him to look me in the face and tell me why he killed my mother. >> there's no way that you could actually prepare for something like this. >> this is the last piece of that puzzle from a lifetime of what if. >> oh, my gosh. what happens next? >> you have to tune in. but listen. i wanted to do this because i wanted to go 180 degrees from where we are in the culture. right now, there's no forgiveness, no empathy. no compassion. it's cancel culture. it's call-out culture. i'm going to block you culture. and it's poison. we can't live like that. i wanted to put medicine back in the culture. i talked to eight people who have done really bad things. these are people, many of them in prison still, and i find that people they hurt or the surviving family members and film them talking to each other face-to-face for the first time. and it is a miraculous kind of
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show. it's a heartbreak to healing, heartbreak to hope show. it doesn't always wind up warm and fuzzy. there are some people who listen. they can't get to forgiveness, and that's fine because they get answers to questions they have been plagued by for decades, but in three of the cases, you had a situation where the victims actually went before the parole board and said let this person out of prison. the whole range. >> it doesn't always end well. >> no, does not. no, but it always -- there is some healing that happens. just because, you don't understand, when the verdict comes down, everybody assumes in true crime, now we know who done it. this is about the truth long after the crime. people are hurting. they don't know the truth of what happened. the only person who really knows is the person in the prison cell. >> when i interview victims, the burning question, one thing that hasn't come out is why. >> that's this show. >> and i know, and it's so
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satisfying when they get it. except that i find sometimes convicts can't exactly answer why they did it. >> that also happens. anyway, my point is simply this. people say, you know, a criminal justice show, yes. this is a human show. everybody has done something that they profoundly regret, and everybody has had something done to them that they have a hard time getting past. so the stakes are much higher. but at the end of the day, our hope is that everybody comes away with some insight about what it would be like if we decided to at least try to talk to each other across these gaps of pain. >> kamau, you have been waiting patiently. >> i have van jones here. >> he has four seasons and two emmys. >> also, i'm back, boy, everybody. >> season four, drop the mic. >> this clip we're showing is from a megachurch. you want to talk about this episode? >> this is the premiere episode, and it's sort of for me, an investigation of megachurches because my only idea of what a megachurch was was the ones we
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see on team with joel osteen and the basketball arenas but they're not all created equally. >> let's watch. >> as a comedian, i look at this, part of this as performance. you had two shows today. >> no doubt it's performance. and i'm not scared of saying we're entertaining, because if you look at the gospels, i could argue that jesus entertained. what's the word entertainment? it means to capture and hold someone's attention for an extended period of time. i hope we don't come off, you know, to some people slick, polished, i hope not. i don't want it to be. >> i think people who do not feel invited into the church, one of the things they see when they see a church like that is why is that where they're spending all that money? >> i covered that my whole life. >> what did you learn there? >> he's very rich. according to google, he's worth $11 million. >> whoa. >> my question is, you know, why
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would you want your preacher to be that rich? and there's different ways to megachurches, and some megachurches like the cathedral of hope where there's at lgbtq friendly church where he doesn't have a googleable network. i think sometimes we think they're all these rich prosperity people, but that's not the case. >> when i have been in some of these chunchs, i'm overwhelmed with the energy, and also the production. it's bigger than a broadway show. >> we had a minister who said it feels like a rock concert mixed with motivational speech. are you getting the message of jesus that you're supposed to be there for? i went to his church. it was a good time, but that's not how i receive this message of jesus. >> we can't help but see tony on your shirt there, so tell us why you feel it's important to wear that. >> without toni, i wouldn't be here on the kourch right now. without tony changing what cnn can do, there's no united shades of america, and i wouldn't have
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thought to have a show like this because i used to sit on my wife and girlfriend's church watching his shows saying how do you do that? i'm happy to be here with van. it's my first season where i'm not following him. i feel like we're part of a team. >> you were an episode of tony's last season. i think your plan was to have him on your show. >> he asked me, when am i going to be on your show, like i said no 100 times. like whenever you want to. put my phone down, we'll film now. i had all these ideas. in that episode, you see two people form a friendship. he gave me his number, i gave him my number. i had this idea of what was going to happen and it didn't. it's important for me to remember where all this comes from and to be open to the fact it's not easy, this life. >> beautiful. >> thank you. can't wait to see them. they look really fantastic. be sure to watch our sunday nightlinep, the all new sunday nightlinep series, the redemption project at 9:00 p.m., followed by united shades of
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america at 10:00 p.m. >> a doctor or hospital visit can be a difficult experience for patients on the autism spectrum, so we want to reintroducia to dr. wendy ross, a cnn top ten hero from the 2014 year working with fellow doctors to give autistic patients the best care. >> hi. hey, how are you? hi, alex. >> patients coming in on the spectrum may have a more difficult time communicating, and without doctors that can understand how to interact with them, they're not going to get appropriate health care. some of the accommodates that our program provides are noise canceling headphones, fidgets to reduce their anxiety. we'reer. >> for more on wendy's work, go to cnnheroes.com. >> so new numbers show the u.s. economy is strong. newsroom picks it up after this quick break. have a great weekend. does this map show the
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breaking news this hour. new signs of a growing and healthy american economy. i'm jim sciutto. poppy has the day off today. new numbers released just moments ago show 3.2% growth in the first quarter. smashing the expectations. joining me to discuss, cnn business correspondent alison kosik, as well as catherine rampell. first to you, alison, the numbers here, truly remarkable in that the government was shut down for most of the first third of this quarter. >> yes, for about a third of the quarter, we saw the government shut down. apparently, it didn't have any impact on economic growth with economic growth showing a 3.2% increase for the first three months. january, february, march. in fact, t

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