Skip to main content

tv   CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto  CNN  April 26, 2019 7:00am-8:00am PDT

7:00 am
administration to take away health care, to do nothing about driving down the cost of prescription drugs, to opposing efforts to raise family incomes with equal pay for equal work. i think the president thinks he benefits from constantly trying to divide the country and distract from some of the policies his administration has put forward. we need to hold him to account both on the policy side and on the misconduct, and we're going to do both things. but having the president praise a general who fought against his own country is appalling and horrifying to hear those words come out of his mouth. >> congressman david cicilline, thanks very much, as always. >> thank you. top of the hour. i'm jim sciutto in new york. poppy is off today. president trump is off to the heartland, indianapolis, indiana. site of an nra convention where the president will speak about 90 minutes from now. that's a picture of him departing on his walk to marine one, he spoke to reporters about
7:01 am
the mueller report, a strong economy, and some potentially strong competition for him in 2020. here's what he said about the former vice president and brand-new presidential contender, joe biden. >> i think we beat him easily. i am a young, vibrant man. i look at joe, i don't know about him. i don't know. i would never say anyone is too old, but i know they're all making me look very young, both in terms of age and i think in terms of energy. >> cnn white house correspondent kaitlan collins joins me now. you know, the president clearly has chosen his means of attack against biden. he called him sleepy joe yesterday in his tweet, and now he's talking about his energy level, his age. a few years older, but let's be frank, not much older than him. that's his line of attack. >> joe biden is actually only four years older than the president, but the president is saying he would never call someone too old to run for
7:02 am
president, but he was implying that's what he thinks about joe biden. that comes as cnn is reporting behind the scenes, the president is questioning allies and advisers whether or not joe biden can beat him. he knows the former vice president has a lot of name recognition and he would be going after similar voters the president went after in the last election. the rust belt voters, the midwest voters. the president behind the scenes is raising questions about joe biden. something else, when joe widen made his announcement that he was entering the race, he brought up one of the moments that has essentially come to define trump's presidency, and that was the remarks he made about that violent protest in charlottesville that left one woman dead. and the president brought it up last night in an interview and then again today when he was asked about the remarks, he seemed to defend what he had said before. >> if you look at what i said, you will see that that question was answered perfectly. and i was talking about people that went because they felt very
7:03 am
strongly about the monument to robert e. lee, a great general. whether you like it or not, he was one of the great generals. i have spoken to many generals here right at the white house, and many people thought of the generals, they think he was maybe their favorite general. people were there protesting the taking down of the monument of robert e. lee. everybody knows that. >> so he's saying there, everyone knows that, when the president made that remark about both sides, and of course, there were those self-proclaimed white nationalists on one side of that. we're seeing the president is sensitive to that criticism from joe biden. >> indeed. listen, he fought against his own country. he fought to keep slavery. easy thing to say. president can't say it. let's bring in david chalian as well. please stay with us. the president doubled down on a lot of statements, including him saying, denying he told don mcgahn to fire robert mueller and then repeating, saying he
7:04 am
had the right to fire him anyway and didn't do it. explain what he's trying to do here. >> first and foremost, i think what's important to note here, the president is disputing a key finding in the mueller report. now, that is not something we heard his attorney general barr do even when he was putting his own spin on it. this is the president now in dispute with a finding in the mueller report, which obviously, as barr goes up to testify next week on the hill, when mueller eventually testifies, this will continue to be explored. what he's clearly trying to do here is he's saying he could have fired mueller at any time, and he didn't. he cooperated, had his whole team cooperate. he's trying to portray himself as the most transparent person in history and that he never ordered his white house counsel mcgahn to fire robert mueller. well, first of all, i just want to spell this out. it was rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, who was
7:05 am
in charge of overseeing that investigation. the president could not have fired mueller directly, the way the statute is written, he would have asked rod rosenstein to do so and he would have had to comply and chosen to do so. that's first of all. second of all, mcgahn spent 30 hours with mueller's team and detailed this, where he had a clear direction from the president to call over to justice and get rid of bob mueller. maybe he didn't use the word fire, and that's what donald trump is hanging on, but his intention was clear to mcgahn. >> by the way, if don mcgahn is not telling the truth, he goes to jail. if the other witnesses who corroborated his account don't tell the truth, he goes to jail. kaitlan collins, i wonder, all the attention the president is focusing on this, against apparently the advice of his advisers who are saying listen, talk about the economy, are you being told is that because the president finds that the most damaging finding in the mueller report for him? >> it's because he sees this
7:06 am
report as an attack on his presidency. and he's particularly unnerved by what don mcgahn said, because it essentially painted the most damning portrait of the president with mcgahn telling people the president wanted him to do crazy things in the white house. the president did not like that portrayal that came, and a lot of it was based on what don mcgahn, one of the people who worked closest with the president, told those investigators. what's interesting is you're seeing the president and his allies accept the broad conclusions of the report about obstruction and conclusion, but trying to poke holes in other aspects like what don mcgahn told robert mueller even though what mcgahn said is not only based on him but also according to the mueller report. multiple testimony from several people, and also evidence that they presented to the special counsel, including documents and emails, and everything like that. so there is so much about this that they're trying -- the president's allies are urging him, jim, to move on. they say he's gotten what he wanted from this. move on from the report, stop
7:07 am
talking about it, but the president has been unable to do that. >> based on past experience, chances of him listening to ththat advice, pretty low. david, stick around with if you can. >> president trump also taking shots at joe biden minutes before the former vice president gives his first television interview since declaring his presidential run. arlette saenz has been covering the former vice president, joins me now. a big interview. a big moment in the rollout of his campaign. >> that's right, jim. in just a short while, in about an hour, joe biden will make his first appearance on abc's "the view" just one day after launching that presidential campaign. where he very clearly, right out of the gate, tried to make this a campaign of a rebuke of president trump. drawing on that moment in charlottesville and saying the president's response to it shows there is a battle for the soul of the nation. now, yesterday, i had the chance to ask joe biden in the fact he's the front-runner.
7:08 am
he told me it's not just about being able to win, but who will best be able to lead the country. and one thing that joe biden is going to point to is his experience factor. his 36 years in the senate and two terms as vice president. but with that long career is also a very long record that's going to come into sharp focus in the coming months. and one area of that career has already come into the spot lite during the first 24 hours of his campaign. and that was his handling of the 1991 testimony of anita hill. he was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee at the time when anita hill testified and accused the supreme court nominee at the time, clarence thomas, of sexual harassment. yesterday, we learned that biden and anita hill, after all these years, they did recently speak, and a spokesperson released a statement saying biden expressed his regret for what she endured during those hearings. but then we also heard from anita hill, giving an interview
7:09 am
to "the new york times," where she basically said that that type of apology was not enough. that simply saying i'm sorry for what happened to you is not enough. anita hill saying she's not ready to support joe biden until he acknowledges his role in those hearings. these are questions that joe biden is going to continue to face in these early days of the campaign. we'll see if he gets any questions about it on "the view" or on his way in there. >> arlette, stay with me. you're outside abc because the interview for the vice president is going to be on "the view." david chalian back with us again. david, trump saying there, i think we beat him easily. speaking about joe biden. cnn's reporting is that the president seems to be nervous because he's asking a lot of questions about him. why is that? >> yeah, i mean, the president and his team see joe biden and this entire democratic field as the candidate most likely to go and grab some of the voters that actually helped deliver the oval office to donald trump.
7:10 am
some of those middle-class rust belt older white voters in places like, you know, wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania, that joe biden has a unique ability when looking at the entire field of 20 democratic candidates to go in there and try to win some of the voters back. some of the voters, you recall, voted for the obama/biden ticket in 2012. they see that as a real clear and present political danger to them, which is why i think you see the president commenting on joe biden and trying to develop some sort of framing, negative framing around him more so than he's done with any other candidate in the field. >> this is one case what the president means is the opposite of what he's saying when he says he can beat him easily. looking at the first 27, 28 hours now of the biden campaign, what are the team members saying to you about the rollout? are they concerned about some of the hiccups? >> well, i don't think that they wanted to be addressing the
7:11 am
issue of anita hill on the first day. that's something that's really dogged him over the past few months. but they were happy with that initial rollout. that video, the way it was received. that message about charlottesville has really been central to biden over the past few months. when i have been traveling with him around the country, he always points back to that moment in charlottesville and the president's response to it. one thing we're going to be watching in the coming hours is how much money did joe biden raise in the first 24-hour period. biden has never been a prolific fund-raiser. he doesn't have the small donor grassroots level fund-raising list that people like bernie sanders and kamala harris might have. we'll see if we get answers about that. also, we have seen these criticisms coming his way from his fellow democratic rivals. last night, joe biden was at a fund-raiser in philadelphia hosted by a comcast executive. bernie sanders' campaign criticized that, saying he's at a fund-raiser with a corporate
7:12 am
lobbyist. we'll see if biden is ready to engage yet with his fellow democrats. so much of the focus has been pitting this between himself and president trump so far. >> david, i have to imagine, if all of his democratic rivals are taking aim at joe biden, they have to see him as the man to beat as well. >> no doubt, he enters the race as the big dog and the front-runner. it's interesting to note, it's not all of them right now. it's the very ones identified with the progressive wing. elizabeth warren going after joe biden about a decades-old battle they have over bankruptcy bill and credit card companies. calling him out by name. arlette was saying about the bernie sanders fund-raising appeal. the warren/sanders folks want to in the first 24 hours immediately start drawing a contrast with what they see with the more corporatist, centrist joe biden to carve out differentiation from the guy who is clearly in the driver positive seat at the moment.
7:13 am
>> leading all those national polls. david chalian, sorry, arlette, you had a thought there? >> no, just one of those things, there's been so many policy debates that played out in the democratic primary that joe biden hasn't weighed in on yet. the green new deal, medicare for all. we'll see how much policy he might put out on the campaign. >> david and arlette, thanks very much. still to come, this hour, deputy attorney general rod rosen sign unloading on his critics as he defends his handling of the russia probe, including standing by his appointment of the special counsel, robert mueller. we'll tell you what more he's saying including some criticism of the obama administration. >> plus, students and staff in los angeles are under quarantine today because of a measles outbreak. the latest on the record outbreak and growing concern about the disease around the country. >> two fires break out at a pennsylvania church in the very same week church leaders and investigators looking for answers. we switched.
7:14 am
i switched. we switched. i switched to chevy. i switched to chevy. we switched to chevy. we switched for value. for family. for power. it was time to upgrade. i switched from ram to chevy. see why people are switching to chevy. we love our chevy. i love my malibu. my colorado. my camaro. my traverse. why did we switch? just look at it. ♪ just look at it. hey allergy muddlers... achoo! do your sneezes turn heads?
7:15 am
♪ try zyrtec. zyrtec starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec. muddle no more. and try zyrtec-d for proven relief of your allergies, sinus pressure, and congestion.
7:16 am
i've always been i'm still going for my best... even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'll go for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. what's next? sharing my roots. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned
7:17 am
medical or dental procedures. eliquis, the number one cardiologist-prescribed blood thinner. ask your doctor if eliquis is what's next for you. you get the price match guarantee. so if you find your room at a lower rate, hilton is like... we're gonna match that rate and give you an extra 25% off. what would travel sites do if you found a different price? that's not my problem, it's your problem. book at and get the hilton price match guarantee. we'd love some help with laundry. spray and scrub anything with a stain. wash the really dirty clothes separately.
7:18 am
new tide pods with upgraded 4-in-1 technology unleash a foolproof clean in one step. aww, you did the laundry! it's got to be tide. this morning, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is defending his actions and firing back at his critics over his handling of the mueller investigation. >> i did pledge to do it right and to take it to the appropriate conclusion. it's not our job to render conclusive factual findings. we just decide whether it's appropriate to file criminal charges. >> joining me now to discuss, susan hennessy, former nsa attorney. a lot to unpack from rod
7:19 am
rosenstein because he made a lot of defenses, took a couple shots as well. first on his answer there that it's not his job, meaning the justice department's job, to render conclusive factual findings. we just decide whether it's appropriate to file criminal charges. that is true, but we also know, do we not, that robert mueller's decision not to indict the president on obstruction of justice was because of a policy not to denite the president based on what he cited in the report? >> that's true that was robert mueller's motivation. the other thing that's a little at tension with rosenstein's comments was of course his decision to join bill barr in that original summary letter and not just letting the mueller report speak for itself on obstruction of justice. laying out the facts but declining to render a traditional prosecutorial judgment. also taking that additional step of saying we don't believe this is obstruction of justice. i think anyone who has actually read the report now understands that decision and the decision to sort of insert themselves into that process was ultimately
7:20 am
a politically and public relshzs motivated one. it's also hard to square that with sort of rosenstein's account of how he viewed his role. >> on his criticism of the obama administration for not being more public about russian interference in the election as it was happening, and it's my own reporting, i have spoken to folks who were in the administration who said there was a debate inside about how public to go. is rosenstein's criticism there fair? >> certainly, there is fair criticism to be leveled against the obama administration's handling of the russia situation in real time. that said, a single person responsible for the failure to warn the amoern people, it wasn't president obama, was mitch mcconnell. there has been lots of credible reporting the obama administration went to mcconnell, laid out the evidence, and said we want to present this to the american people. mitch mcconnell in response made clear if they did that, he would frame it as a partisan issue.
7:21 am
that ultimately was the reason why the obama administration felt they couldn't move forward. >> final question. the president's threatening now to declassify the fisa warrants that led to the investigation. this is the special court that determines the ability to surveil u.s. citizens. he's done this before. declassified documents that he found politically advantageous, but there are risks here. what would the risks be? >> over the long term, the risk is not just anything that might be revealed by this particular declassification, but over the long term, the government is actually going to erode the government's argument in needing to preserve these documents. all the time the government has to go to court to fight foia requests, requests by defendants to make these documents public. what they say is if we were to disclose them, it would be harmful to the national security of the united states. if what we see is the president selectively declassifying information when it's politically advantageous or
7:22 am
helped fuel a particular conspiracy theory, that's going to undercut the message of the department of justice. >> susan hennessy, always good to talk to you. >> right now, federal judge is deciding the fate of maria butina. today's sentencing after she pled guilty in december to one count of conspiracy. kara scannell is live outside the courthouse. what do we expect and what do we learn from her about russian efforts to interfere in the political process? >> the sentencing hearing began just about 20 minutes ago. the judge here will decide just how much time maria butina serves in prison. prosecutors are saying she was part of this conspiracy, this campaign to infiltrate conservative political circles whi while working with a russian government official and working as a back chan tool get that information to the kremlin. prosecutors originally came out with a lot of salacious details
7:23 am
saying she once offered sex to a special interest group. they have walked that back now. they said she actually was not using her gradual school study as a cover. she was a genuine college student, and they also said she was not actually a trained intelligence officer and was not a spy in the traditional sense of seeking classified information that she would then peddle back to the kremlin. they're sticking with this notion she's a national security risk working as an access agent to spot and identify individuals who could be vulnerable to russian interference and that would still get back to the kremlin as part of their overall effort to influence the u.s. political system. butina's lawyers and prosecutors are saying they want her to get 18 months in prison. butina's lawyers are saying she should serve no more time than she's been held, which is nine months. she's expected to address the judge and make her best case. her lawyer saying she was an
7:24 am
idealized college student who just wanted and had a genuine interest in improving government relations. they're asking she be sent back to russia. >> you have the company folks who work full time and frelancers, part of the system. thanks very much. >> two u.s. universities are right now under quarantine because of a measles outbreak. we'll have an update on this coming up. uh-oh, looks like someone's still nervous about buying a new house. is it that obvious? yes it is. you know, maybe you'd worry less if you got geico to help with your homeowners insurance. i didn't know geico could helps with homeowners insurance. yep, they've been doing it for years. what are you doing? big steve? thanks, man. there he is. get to know geico and see how much you could save on homeowners and renters insurance. you might or joints.hing for your heart... but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials
7:25 am
to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. i never thought i'd say this but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. travel and dining now kayak and opentable let you earn travel rewards every time you dine. earn points with each restaurant reservation on opentable and redeem them for hotel discounts on kayak.
7:26 am
get started at
7:27 am
7:28 am
the latest inisn't just a store.ty it's a save more with a new kind of wireless network store. it's a look what your wifi can do now store. a get your questions answered by awesome experts store. it's a now there's one store that connects your life like never before store. the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome.
7:29 am
welcome back. news coming in to cnn. the semi driver accused of causing a fiery crash in colorado will be charged with vehicular homicide, this even as authorities say they're not sure how many people died in the collision. the semi driver slammed into cars sitting in traffic near denver yesterday. those are the pictures there, just horrific. there were some 28 vehicles involved in the crash. that included four semi tractor trailers. authorities can't say how many victims died in the crash. investigators say there was no sign of alcohol or drugs that played a part in the deadly crash. >> attorneys for new england patriots owner robert kraft will ask a judge to throw out video that allegedly shows him paying for sex acts at a florida spa. kraft has pleaded not guilty to two misdemeanor counts of soliciting prostitution. he was among hundreds of people charged this past february in a sting involving several massage
7:30 am
parlors and spas across florida. kraft's attorneys argue that recording that video was a violation of their constitutional rights. >> this morning, another story we have been following closely. more than 100 students and staff are under quarantine at two universities in los angeles as the u.s. faces now its largest measles outbreak since the disease was nearly declared or declared eliminated in 2000. quarantine was issued at ucla and cal state l.a. for anyone who was exposed to one confirmed case there. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins us live with more. we have been talking about this for weeks now. every time i speak to you, there are more states on the map that have seen cases. this is becoming a serious national problem. >> it is. and you know, obviously, with the backdrop as you mentioned that it was virtually eliminated 20 years ago in 2000. now, various cities, various areas are trying to figure out how best to deal with it in
7:31 am
their particular area. so, you know, in california, the situation unfolds like this. someone has measles. they're in a public space. they have to go back and find who else was in the space and ask those people, jim, are you certain that you have been vaccinated? are you certain you have been immunized against measles. most people will say yes because if you went to public school in this country and it was required, you got your vaccinations, but there's a lot of people who may not know. those are the people we're talking about here who are now in quarantine. they have picked 21 days sort of for the quarantine to last for some of these folks, which is a bit of an arbitrary number. the reason they picked that timeframe is between the time you're exposed and the time you start to develop the symptoms of measles, days, sometimes weeks can pass. they want to be really certain that someone's not going to develop measles after the fact and spread it even more. this is an attempt to try to contain it. >> you have described to me just how contagious this disease is.
7:32 am
if someone with it walks in a room and i walk in the room after them, even if they have left, it's possible to get the disease. >> even within a couple hours after that. if i had measles right now, i left and someone came in the room two hours from now that was not vaccinated, they could get the measles. you sit next to someone on a plane and they have a cold, you thing that's not ideal, but statistically, i'm not likely to get the cold. if i sit next to someone with measles and i'm not vaccinated, i have about a 90% chance of getting measles. it's one of the most contagious infectious diseases we know. >> as you know and our viewers may not, this is based on an anti-vaxer phenomenon where people wrongly believe because it's based on fake science, that the vaccine for this might cause autism or other health issues. the president himself has shared those concerns on twitter in years past. today, though, from the white house lawn, he said unequivocally, people need to get their shots.
7:33 am
how important is that to hear the message directly from the president and nationally? >> i think it's obviously really important. i'm really glad that's what he said, because you're right. in the past, he has sort of hedged on this issue, as has ben carson and rand paul, and i signal them out because they're doctors. there is no connection between these vaccines and the harms that people think they have with regard to autism in particular. are there risks with the vaccines? yeah, there's risks with anything, but they're very small risks. and clearly, the benefits greatly outweigh the risks. i think what's interesting now, jim, is how do we get control of this? what we don't want to see is that entire map is lit up, right? we have 22 states now. we don't want this to become endemic which means it's spreading now throughout the country. as a result, there's new measures that are going to be going into place. you hear about the quarantine in los angeles. you hear emergency declaration in new york. you know, keeping people who
7:34 am
have measles, who have been exposed to measles, out of public places. you'll start to see new strategies unfold. are you certain you have had your measles shot? are adults certain? if they're not, they may have to get a booster shot. these are all things we didn't think we would have to talk about but now we do because of what's starting to happen. >> you have a responsibility to yourself and your family and also to the public. that's the point here. dr. sanjay gupta, thanks very much. get your shots, folks. the concerns are based on nothing, no real science. >> coming up, arson investigators search for clues after two fires in one church within just a few days. we'll have an update on that story next.
7:35 am
sun care is self care. i used to not love wearing an spf
7:36 am
just because i felt like it was so oily and greasy and that it was going to clog my pores. but what i love about olay regenerist whip with spf 25 is that it's lightweight, it's barely there. and then i can put makeup on over it if i want or if i'm not working, you know, just roll. it's perfect for me. i'm busy philipps, and i'm fearless to face anything. our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy. and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. since you're heading off to dad... i just got a zerowater. but we've always used brita. it's two stage-filter...
7:37 am
doesn't compare to zerowater's 5-stage. this meter shows how much stuff, or dissolved solids, gets left behind. our tap water is 220. brita? 110... seriously? but zerowater- let me guess. zero? yup, that's how i know it is the purest-tasting water. i need to find the receipt for that. oh yeah, you do. but one blows them all out of the water. hydro boost from neutrogena®. with hyaluronic acid to plump skin cells so it bounces back. neutrogena®
7:38 am
so it bounces back. be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver,
7:39 am
and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible.
7:40 am
the atf is now joining the investigation of two fires in two days at a small church in eastern pennsylvania. investigators say the first fire at the pentecostal church of bethlehem was intentionally set. arson. but the cause of the second one still under investigation. of course, suspicious. athena jones joins me now. atf is joined now, the federal authorities are on the ground investigating this. what have they found so far? >> so far, this is a mystery. of course, a disturbing story. atf is offering a $5,000 reward for anyone with information that leads to the successful prosecution of whoever was responsible here. but the mystery is these two fires over the course of two days at this church, the fire on thursday started in the early morning hours. the cause is unknown.
7:41 am
there were no injuries. but the earlier fire on tuesday, which also started overnight, badly burned, badly damaged the church. you can see there. the fire marshal there has determined that was arson. so police are investigating, of course. they say the motive is unclear. they're encouraging anyone with information to come forward and contact them. they specifically say if you were out and about on wednesday evening in the area of this church and saw anything suspicious, let us know. they're also asking for anyone at a convenience store or gas station and may have seen someone purchasing gasoline to of course let authorities no. this is a mystery and a disturbing one. >> church leaders, they're speaking. what are they saying? >> the daughter of the church's pastor, also a church leader, she spoke with our affiliate. listen to what she said. >> it was heartbreaking. and really sad that this would happen for the second time. and i said who would do such a
7:42 am
thing? what else can they burn in the building? they already burned what we love so much, the inside. so what else? i guess they don't see it until the ground, they won't let it go. >> now, again, this second fire still under investigation. not clear if it's for sure arson or what the motive may have been. we know this church serves spanish language population, and beth lm has about a 30% hispanic population. we don't know if that has anything to do with that. fires on churches have been in the headlines in recent days. >> athena jones, thank you. >> moments ago, president trump once again his response to charlottesville, including those famous good people on both sides comments. we'll speak about his response with van jones next. achoo! your sneezes turn heads? try zyrtec... starts working hard at hour one... and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec muddle no more.
7:43 am
billions of problems. morning breath? garlic breath? stinky breath? there's a therabreath for you. therabreath fresh breath oral rinse instantly fights all types of bad breath and works for 24 hours. so you can... breathe easy. there's therabreath at walmart.
7:44 am
every day, visionaries are creating the future. ♪ so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. ♪ the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. ♪ because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it.
7:45 am
if you want to get the most details about your family history. my pie chart showed that i'm from all over europe, but then it got super specific. i learned my people came from a small region in poland and even a little bit of the history about why they might have migrated during that time. those migration patterns are more than just lines on a map, they're really your family's story. i can't wait to see what i'm going to discover next. 20 million members have connected to a deeper family story. order your kit at to a deeper family story. state of the art technology makes it brilliant. the visionary lexus nx. lease the 2019 nx 300 for $359 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
7:46 am
7:47 am
this morning, president trump reigniting a conversation and a controversy around the white nationalist violence in charlottesville, virginia, that left one woman dead nearly two years ago. the night before heather heyer was killed, white supremacists marched toward a statute of the confederate general robert e. lee carrying torching and chanting neonazi slogans. the president said among those protesers were people protesting taking down the monument to a great general, as he called him. have a listen. >> and if you look at what i said, you will see that that question was answered perfectly. and i was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to robert e. lee, a great general. whether you like it or not, he
7:48 am
was one of the great generals. i have spoken to many generals here right at the white house. and many people thought of the generals. they think he was maybe their favorite general. people were there protesting the taking down of the monument of robert e. lee. everybody knows that. >> this comes after the former vice president joe biden highlighted the president's comments in reaction to charlottesville as part of the reason why he's running for president, fighting for the soul of the nation. here to discuss now, van jones, host of the redemption project. of course, robert e. lee. he also happened to fight against his own country to keep slavery the law of the land. why can't the president utter a clear statement condemning white spremicism? >> look, i mean, he has not figured out in this late date how to be a president for everybody. he's given aid and comfort to some of the worst people in the country, some of the worst people in the world. whatever he's intending, the people, anybody would despise in
7:49 am
this country, love when he does stuff like that, but politically, who can beat donald trump? joe biden just sucked him into the worst possible position he could be in, and did it effortlessly. joe biden puts up one video and now we're talking about charlottesville and the president is helping him. i don't think donald trump knows how to deal with joe biden. joe biden knows how to deal with donald trump. he has him right where he wants him already. it's really so painful to hear the commander in chief, the president of the united states, sit up here and brag on a traitor, brag on someone who is committing an act of treason to defend one of the most abominable institutions in the world. it's beneath him, beneath the office of president, but from a political point of view, joe biden showed the world he knows how to put a banana peel in front of donald trump and watch him fall. he hadn't even gotten out of bed this morning. >> the president is claiming here he's misunderstood. i heard his offedefenders sayine president is not always as clear
7:50 am
as he should be. he's had multiple opportunities to state very clearly how he feels about white supremacists yet he doesn't take those opportunities. is that intentional? is he trying to appeal to an audience? >> i don't know. you can see that these different trumps inside of him, fighting all the time. people say you have met him, talked to him, what are his intentions. i don't know. what i will say is this, i wish he took the pain of the people who are hurt by these white supremacists more seriously, and i wish he would speak out more forcefully about it. the time he doesn't do it and has time and time again to do it, makes people whether he cares and whether he's trying to appease the unappeasable. >> let's talk about something good, because you have a great project and it's positive and speaks to something making a positive difference. called the redemption project. the show comes out, going to debut this weekend. speaks to restorative justice. we'll play a quick clip and van will tell us what it's all about. >> we like to imagine that after
7:51 am
there's been a verdict, that the story is over. the reality is, whether there be the offend or the victim, the journey is just beginning. >> there was a sheriff's deputy at the door. >> he said he's dead. >> i got the drugs i used. >> i took the gun from him. i put it to his head and i pulled the trigger. >> what is it that you want to know? >> i want him to look me in the face and tell me why he killed my mother. ♪ redemption ♪ how high to the top of the mountain ♪ ♪ how long >> don't know where we're going to land. but we're all in, man. >> just such powerful moments there. victims facing people who
7:52 am
brought so much pain to their lives. just explain what restorative justice is, how it works, and does it work? >> let me just explain for me in my heart, i feel like the culture has moved in such a negative direction. there is no forgiveness, no empathy, no compassion. it's all just cancel culture, call out culture, i'm going to block you, and that's poison. we can't go on that way. i wanted to put some medicine back into the culture. i decided, let's go 180 degrees the other direction. let's take people who have real pain between them, talk to somebody who has done something bad, wants forgiveness, wants to atone, wants to make up for it. we found the person they hurt, and we film them talking to each other. and listen, it doesn't always end up warm and fuzzy, but there are moments of real breakthrough miraculous healing. a heartbreak to hope show, people say it looks like it's too heavy. no, i guarantee you, you watch the show, you're going to come away believing much more is possible between human beings
7:53 am
than we have allowed ourselves to believe. >> how do you get over that? you meet with mariah, a young mother whose mother was murdered when she was a toddler. she sits down against the man who took her away from her. >> in this true crime culture, once you figure out who done it and put the right person in jail, everybody is happy, roll the credits, and we can go have a beer. no, this is about the truth long after the crime, 10 years later, 20 years later, people are hurt and don't have basic answers. some people cop a plea, lie on the stand. families still don't know what actually happened. just the idea, tell me what happened. why did you do this? what were my mother's last words? help me understand what happened. just that gives people more space to heal. even if they don't forgive. people say i couldn't forgive. in my show, some people don't forgive, but they get one step closer to healing. you see moral courage on both sides, at olympic levels that should inspire the rest of us. if these people can have a
7:54 am
conversation, we should be able to have a conversation in this society. >> that's a great lesson. van jones. it's going to be worth it. >> listen, 9:00 p.m. on sunday. >> get out and watch it. be sure to tune in. all all new cnn series redemption project with van jones premieres sunday at 9:00 on the evening only on cnn. packed with pure soy evens tone and texture. so skin looks like this. and you feel like this. aveeno® positively radiant get skin happy™ it's how we care for our patients- like job. his team at ctca treated his cancer and side effects. so job can stay strong for his family. cancer treatment centers of america. appointments available now. ...when a plan stops being a plan and gets set into motion.
7:55 am
today's merrill can help you get there with the people, tools, and personalized advice to help turn your ambitions into action. what would you like the power to do? ten detailed acts of obstruction of justice. robert mueller's report lays out a roadmap for impeachment proceedings against this president and challenges congress to do its job.
7:56 am
i'm tom steyer and we can't let this president destroy the public trust, break his oath of office and get away with it. congress has to do its job and hold him accountable. please call them at this number. tell them to get going.
7:57 am
7:58 am
the disgraces hollywood movie mogul harvey weinstein is in a new york courtroom as we speak for an important pretrial hearing in his ongoing sexual assault case. jean casarez has been following the case. she joins me.
7:59 am
what's going to happen in the hearing? >> in an extraordinary move, the judge has just sealed and closed the courtroom so the media and public are not allowed. and this is undoubtedly the most important two-day pretrial hearing for harvey weinstein. his criminal trial begins in a little more than a month, and he is facing life in prison in this sexual assault trial. what we do know is a brief summary, that the prosecution wants to bring in prior uncharged bad acts of harvey weinstein. their case in chief. remember bill cosby. five accusers were allowed to come into the courtroom saying bill cosby sexually assaulted them. we believe that mirrors what the prosecution wants in this case. in addition, the defendant, if he takes the stand, the prosecution wants to be able to cross-examine him on prior bad acts also. the media will not know until the trial begins and the public what is allowed in this trial. it's going on right now. harvey weinstein is facing rape,
8:00 am
predatory sexual assault, sexual act in the first degree, he faces life in prison. jim. >> jean casarez, thank you for following. thanks to all of you for following us today. i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour" with kate bolduan starts right now. >> hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thanks for joining me. if you had any doubt in your mind that the 2020 race was on, look no further than this morning to see, it is most certainly on. president trump going out of his way earlier today to take on former vice president joe biden after biden officially jumped into the race just 24 hours ago. and it comes as cnn learns that biden is already making the president sweat, but he's not about to concede that. here's what president trump said just minutes ago. >> i think we beat him easily. i just feel like a young man. i'm so young. i can't believe it. i'm the youngest


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on