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of our issues are at the table and that people know who she is as the next president of the united states. because i really believe that she's going to be the one who can prosecute the case against donald trump and win. >> i've given you so many opportunities to say that you disagree with joe biden and you haven't taken that. i look at the candidate that you're a surrogate for who delivered this tough shot against him, right? she did not pull a punch, this was -- she zeroed in on joe biden and -- >> let me just say, i disagree totally with what not only he said, but his record. >> i guess -- >> i want to clarify that i think it's extremely important. >> sure, you said the record is there. i think just you're very polite in how you're doing it. do you have a concern about the circular firing squad when it
comes to this field? as you look with an aim to defeat president trump even as you've chosen a side? >> well, i think it's important for any candidate. and as surrogate and co chair of senator harris' campaign in california. i think it's more important that the candidate put out their agenda, who they are, their record, and i think she proved last night, and she dominated the stage, she proved she was the toughest candidate to take on president trump. and i think the way she responded to vice president biden was clear. it was the appropriate response, and working -- and again, working with segregationists on an anti-bussing agenda is very scary in a lot of ways in terms of what the public really can understand about his record. and that's why i say, they need to check his record to clarify the facts and the public will see what she was talking about. >> and you have taken issue with
him. we have to leave it there, congresswoman barbara lee, thank you so much. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. brianna, thank you. i'm brooke baldwin, you're watching cnn, thanks for being with me. many of the democrats who are running for president are back out on the campaign trail. leaving the bright lights of the debate stage far behind. for joe biden, may be a welcome break. he's set to speak any moment now to jesse jackson in chicago a speech that comes as biden finds himself in the middle of another firestorm over his record on the issue of race. i see him there at the podium. shall we go? let's go. >> my granddaughter finnegan biden from chicago. if anyone makes it, this one will. by the way, i lost a daughter, i have one daughter that survived,
and i have four granddaughters. let me tell you, they're incredible. how many of you men and women have a granddaughter out there. and how many of you had a daughter as well. here's the deal, daughters always are wonderful. as a matter of fact we have an expression. a son's a son until he gets a wife, a daughter's a daughter for the rest of her life. when the daughter is about 12 1/2 years old, you put a butterfly to bed the next morning there's a snake in the bed. daddy, daddy, drop me off at the corner. my granddaughter comes and says, you're not hydrating enough. she's a social worker with a master's degree. here's the deal. granddaughters not always love you but they always like you. and by the way, she's in college, we're walking down
campus she says, can we hold hands? can you daughters imagine saying that to your dads. i love you, kid. and by the way, she's a -- her mom is from the south side, her other set of grandparents live here in chicago, and she's a chicago girl. anyway, thank you very much for indulging me, reverend. and always thank you for remembering my son beau. he was a friend of yours and you took care of him too. so thank you. thank you thank you thank you. members of the clergy, mayor, thank you for the passport into town. i appreciate it. congresswoman kelly is a great friend and great congresswoman. and all the labor leaders here. there's an expression in parts of south philly, y'all are the ones that brung me to the dance. the african-american community and labor. and i'm not joking. jesse knows my state very very
well. he knows that when i say i got raised in the black church, he knows i'm not kidding. before we organize, you would go and sit in the church, and sit there before he goes out, and try to change things when i was a kid in college and high school. but look. before i start i'd like to say something about the debate we had last night. and i heard and i listened to, and i respect senator harris. we all know that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime commitment to civil rights. i want to be clear about my record and position. on racial justice, including bussing. i never never never ever opposed voluntary bussing. as a program, that senator harris participated in. and made a difference in the life. i supported federal action to
address root causes in our schools and communities, including taking on the banks and red lining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. i've always been in favor of using federal authorities to overcome state initiated segregation. i passed an amount in 1974 called the gurney amendment, which would ban the federal courts to use bussing as a remedy. the most extensive bussing order in american history, it wasn't what you would call the most popular vote in the country at the time. so reverend jackson, we spent a lot of time working together over the years, on a lot of issues that matter. i know, you know, i fought my heart out to ensure that civil rights, voting rights, equal rights aren't forced everywhere. these rights are not up to the states to decide they're our federal government's duty to decide. there's a constitutional question to protect the civil
rights of every single american. and that's always been my position. and so that's why i ran for federal office in the first place. as reverend jackson may be one of the few people that knows, my city was the only city after dr. king that was assassinated that was almost burned to the ground. 20% of it, the only city in the united states of america since reconstruction, was occupied by the national guard would draw bayonets on every corner for 10 months. i had two political heroes, dr. king and bobby kennedy. they were both assassinated the year i graduated. i came home and had had a job with a prestigious law firm in the state. i ended up leaving and becoming a public defender. when i was elected one of the first things i did was to go on the committee to strengthen the voting rights act.
i supported making the equity act in law and make the law of the land today. i voted for the civil rights act of 1990 to ban employment discrimination. i wrote the provision in the law that allows the attorney general to pursue cases involving a pattern or practice of conduct by law enforcement officers in violation of constitutional -- of federal rights. i wrote that law pip used that power during the obama/biden administration, our department of justice investigated police discrimination and abuse, including ferguson. we worked like the devil to make sure you should not allow police departments to buy excess military vehicles like armored humvees and armored personnel carrier. you don't go into a neighborhood and police in an armored humvee. we reduced the federal population by 38,000 people.
ladies and gentlemen, in the obama/biden administration, we commuted more sentences than the 13 previous presidents combined. we passed the supportive -- and by the way, with all due respect i say to chicago ans and everyone. my president gets much too little credit for all that he did. he was one of the great presidents of the united states of america. and i'm tired of hearing about what he didn't do. [ applause ] >> this man had a backbone like a ram rod. you want to know what a man or woman is made of? watch them under incredible pressure. he got elected, as we're about to fall off a cliff. we went out and had to pass an act that was the recovery act. $800 billion. and guess what, remember he stood up on -- he loved in the state of the union, turned and surprised me, he didn't tell me,
and sheriff joe is going to enforce the act. thanks a lot, mr. president. $800 billion. but we did it without less than 2% of waste, fraud or abuse in that act. here's what he did. everything that landed on his desk i watched him. i watched him. i sat with him, every single morning and i watched him, for hundreds of hours in that -- in the so-called -- the situation room -- not where wolf blitzer lives, the real situation room, i watched him, and i want to tell you, chicago, you had a great great man out here, and he's still a great man, and he still has a lot to offer. in office we passed an initiative to break the pipeline. the discussion in this race today shouldn't be about the past. we should be talking about how
we can do better. how we can move forward. how we can give every child in america the opportunity for success stories. these aren't somebody else's children, they're our children. they're all our children, not a joke. they're all our children. and they're the kite strings that lift our national ambitions aloft. we have to make people realize what you all are doing. what you're doing is, every single child in america has enormous potential. but it means you have to have good schools in every neighborhood. no child's future should be determined by their zip code. that's why i propose tripling the funding for title i schools. we're going to increase teacher's pay, make prek absolutely a requirement across the board. ladies and gentlemen, these teachers walk into school every day like my wife. she taught in the public school system, she teaches at a
community college. she's never stopped teaching by the way. she's the only second lady i know who has a full time job teaching 15 credits a semester. by the way, i'm known as jill biden's husband. and i'm proud of that. but i earned it, i had to ask her five times to marry me before she'd do it. i don't know how that happened. thank you lord. those are your teachers in here, you know, you're expected to teach kids to add, write, read, subtract. we have too few school psychologists, too few social workers, too few people in there doing what needs to be done to give kids a chance. and we're going to do that under my proposal. look, we're going to reinstate the policies pushed through during our administration, to finish the work of desegregating our schools, because we have a
national interest in creating diverse school bodies. that's whey believe. we have to make sure that we're moving closer to the idea of america's founding. you know, we all learn in sch l school. we hold these truths self-evident that all men and women are created equal. we've never lived up to that. this is the 400th anniversary of the first african-american being brought to the shores of the united states enslaved. that's the original sin of this nation. but we've never walked away from it either. we've never walked away from the expectation. all of you in this room have never walked away from it. and look, there's only one president i know that's actually deliberately walked away from it. that is donald trump. not a joke. think about this. i don't know about you, jess, but i never thought that after all the progress had been made, i'd see people marching out in
fields, carrying torches, contorted faces, anger and hate. accompanied by white supremacists and the ku klux klan, met by decent honorable people who said we don't hate here and what happened, clash ensued, a young woman died. and what did he say? when asked about it, he said -- no president's ever said this. "there are very fine people in both groups." he's yet to apologize or criticize the ku klux klan or the white supremacists. look, we have a president who promotes hate and division. has encouraged the poison of white supremacy, our children are watching. barack was a president, our kids not only could but did look up to. look, when presidents say matters. it matters.
and by the way, when we stay slirnt, our silence is complicity. that's whey learned from my dad. your silence is complicity. you know, i promise you, if i get elected president, i will be a president who stands against racism, the forces of inclusion and intolerance everywhere in our society, in our institutions and voting booths. and in our hearts. it matters what we say. and since we're at a labor lunche luncheon, it's important to stand by and start by recognizing black, hispanic, asian-american workers and native american workers and communities of color all across the nation that have driven and strengthened the labor movements from the beginning as you spoke about a moment ago. from the atlanta wash room woman's strike in 1880 to the
strike in 1960 boycott, from bill lucy and chicago's own abby wide and jacqueline vaughn. black and brown power have always been an integral part of fighting for the right to organize. demanding equal pay, fair treatment. basic workers protection, as my dad would say, some dignity. taking on the fight of all workers from farm workers to domestic workers to tearing down systematic racism along the way, we owe them, we owe them big, we owe you, and if i'm elected president, i want you to know, labor will have a full partner in the white house, and i think labor knows that from me. [ applause ] >> folks, a lot's changed very badly since we've been out of office. and this president and some
members of the corporate community believe that -- i want to make it clear to them, wall street did not build america. stockbrokers and hedge fund managers did not build this country. you built this country. the great american middle class, the unions built the middle class. that's why it exists. we need to rebuild it, but this time we have to bring everybody along. no matter their race, gender, ethnicity, religion, who they love, where they live or whether they have a disability. my dad used to have an expression. a job is a lot more than a paycheck, he meant it when he left scranton to go find work. it's about your dignity, being able to look your child in the eye and say, honey, it's going to be okay, and mean it. too few people as has been referenced today, too few people think they can say that any more. a vast majority for the first time in about 80 years, the vast
majority of middle class people are shrinking, they no longer believe their children will have the responsibility, mr. president, you talked about how your dad persisted and changed things, they don't think their -- and today's corporate culture, and this administration, they don't care about your dignity. instead of investing back into the workers -- and record profits, record profits. instead of investing back into research and development, corporate profits are going to pay dividends to shareholders and blockbuster compensation. they're squeezing the life out of workers today. and by the way, making it harder to meet very basic needs. stripping you of your personal dignity along the way. there's long been a war on labor unions. and as pointed out today, mr. chairman, y'all are coming back. there's another war going on, on the ability of individuals to be able to bargain for their
self-worth. 40% of workers today have to sign a noncompete agreement. it's one thing if you have access to secrets of a great technical organization. one thing you have a business, i'm going to sell it, but i'm not going to open up next door, when i sell it to you. a significant portion of these people are hourly workers. up until i started hollering about this, if you work for jimmy john's you had to sign a noncompete agreement, so you wouldn't walk across ten and try to get ten cents more from mcdonald's. there's only one person, to hold down the ability of individuals to bargain for their own self-worth. it's to keep wages low, and it's wrong. too many companies today classify their workers as manager managers. when labor fought to make sure if you're an hourly worker you had to be paid overtime. what do they do? the person stacking spaghetti
cans on top of a shelf in a supermarket. you can control the person that brings the merchandise out on a forklift, you're now a manager. it costs $1.2 billion last year to hourly workers. where did it go? it went back into the pocket of corporate america. back into the job creators. since when have the autoworkers in my state who made all those automobiles that are gone, they're gone now. since when were they not job creators? today the only people mr. chairman they think are job creators are stockholders. it's ridiculous. speaking of overtime, it's long pastime we have a $15 federal minimum wage. long pastime. and folks -- no, it really is. and we're getting it done around the country.
folks, we need to build an economy that rewards work, not just wages. not just wealth, wages have to be rewarded. >> wages. you realize that people who are multimillionaires who pay only capital gains, they pay a lower tax rate than any of you all do. if i'm elected president, i will repeal the tax cuts for the super wealthy in this trump administration, we have $1.6 trillion in loopholes that exist in the law now. $1.6 trillion you can't justify the vast majority of that. and so folks, look. what i'm going to do is use the money to invest in america's future. there's an incredibly long list of policies i don't have time nor do you have an inclination to listen to me go through. let me tell you something, we need an inclusive economy, for
better access to capital to reducing the decline in black homeownership. to making sure homes in black communities are valued fairly. you realize the same home -- i know you do. same home in a predominantly black neighborhood, and one in an overwhelmingly white neighborhood in the black neighborhood it's valued at less, limiting your ability to borrow against it. you pay a higher insurance rate too for it, even though it's less. we need to reform criminal justice, to make sure black mothers feel confident when they send their child -- their son out on the street -- he's going to be safe. we have to recognize that kid wearing the hoodie, may very well be the next poet laureate, and not a gangbanger. ladies and gentlemen, there are too many black men and women in prison. and we started this -- we need to pass this with bobby scott.
you know bobby well, bobby scott from virginia, his safe passage act, we need to do more, no more mandatory minimum prison sentences period. the end of private prisons as barack and i talked about. funding, original law i wrote drug courts, at least $400 million of your bail reform. no one should be in bail because they don't -- in jail because they don't have the money to pay their bail. no juveniles in adult prisons, mandatory treatment, not jail for those who are affected by, and struggling with addiction. it makes no sense to put people in jail. put them in treatment, and keep them there while they are going through treatment. decriminalize marijuana. and finally, what i've been trying to do for 15 years, end the crack powder cocaine
disparity, so it's one to one, no different. too many african-americans are put in jail for it, and prisons, what i don't get, and we just have to make the case, if you make it to ordinary people they figure it out. in prison, you should receive an education not how to be a better criminal. but you should learn how to read and write. there should be job programs in there. we should be training people. we should be training them. automatic restoration of the rights, once their sentence is served. including all rights to go to school. pell grants. not only a right to vote, to participate, but get -- it's always -- it's overwhelming interested in the united states of america. black, white, hispanic, that you reeds indicate people, give them a chance. folks, look, we can do all these things and so much more. we have to start by uniting the country. i know i get criticized for saying, we can unite the country. but ladies and gentlemen, i
refuse to accept the status quo. the status quo of this miserable ugly politics we have today, guarantees we'll continue to do the same. guarantees it. we can't do it and we can do it without ever compromising on our principles. i know how the labor leaders movement has moved for decades. that's how we're going to win in 2020. and we're going to win together when we defeat donald trump. [ applause ] i've never been more optimistic about america's future, and i mean it. you know, there's a -- excuse me for quoting an irish poet, my colleagues always kid me. he wrote a poem about the suppression of catholics in ireland. he wrote a poem and he said, we're taught never to hope on
this side of the grave, but then once in a lifetime that long tidal wave of justice rises up, and hope and history win. folks, we're in a position now where the american people have seen the very dark side of america. every generation is saying, enough. we have a chance. a real chance. we have a chance to stand up and be remembered for who we are. this is the united states of america, there's nothing we've not been able to do if we're united in it. you know, all those lines everybody remembers from john kennedy's speeches about going to the moon. this is a challenge we're willing to accept, but the line i love most, he said, we are willing/unwilling to postpone. we're unwilling to postpone. i'm unwilling to postpone any longer to deal with the
incredible opportunities we have. so ladies and gentlemen, we have to remember who we are. pick our heads up, work together. and god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you very much. >> joe biden, former vice president of the united states speaking there in chicago, not even 24 hours after the debate and that bruising moment that he had with california senator kamala harris over his record on bussing. first just the news, off the top there, as, of course, he reminds everyone, he got into politics because of civil rights and everything he's done and everything on his record. this is what he said off the top. my position i never opposed voluntary bussing, but the facts are as follows, he was a vocal opponent of federally mandated bussing in order to integrate the nation's school system. let me read two quotes, then we'll bring in a bunch of
amazing voices. this is an interview from 1975, i oppose bussing, it is an asinine concept, the utility of which has never been proven to me. the new integration plans have never been offered, just to assure a certain number of blacks, chicanos, whatever in schools. in 1977, this is writing to the chairman of the judiciary committee, mr. chairman, he writes, i want you to know that i very much appreciate your help during this week's committee meeting in an attempt to bring my anti-bussing legislation to a vote. two examples of joe biden in the '70s on the record opposing bussing. let's talk about why this is significant. beginning with mave resten. you've just listened to the former vice president, how did he do and what does that mean? >> there was so much cleanup he was trying to go through here. but basically what he's saying is somewhat irrelevant to the
debate last night, as you just pointed out. the point that kamala harris was trying to make in that fascinating exchange between the two of them, was the fact that he opposed government mandating bussing. it wasn't -- the discussion wasn't about -- >> city council -- or cities deciding whether they wanted to bus children or not. and i think that that's going to sort of make his job even trickier today if he's splitting hairs along those lines. but it's very hard for him to explain those quotes back in the day. other than the fact that -- as we've been pointing out all day, other americans agreed with him at some americans agreed with him at the time, some of his constituents, that's why he took that position. but it doesn't make the exchange any less devastating for him. >> tiffany cross? co-founder, managing editor of the beat d.c., what do you think? >> so i think this was a really
big misstep for vice president biden. look, we talked about this a little bit last hour, the most appropriate step would have been, i'm embarrassed, i'll be judged for being on the wrong side of history, thank you, senator harris for pointing this out, but i've certainly revisited my stance on that, and i feel differently today. he didn't do that, he was defensive about his stance. and nobody's trying to paint the vice president to be a racist, no one thinks that. this is so frequently the challenge for people of color to correct allies, when they step out of place. there does seem to be this desire to want to extend some sort of hand to these trump voters, to these trump supporters, to extend some sort of extension to people across the aisle who are clearly supremacists, and it baffles some people, does the maga vote hit differently? make it make sense to me. could you go out and inspire the base, who's been on the right side of history and the right side of civil rights for a long time. i think it's a dangerous space
to get in, i want to make it clear. if he's the nominee, people will get behind him. i don't think he's the only electable person on that stage. and i think senator harris proved that last night. >> why not say yes. you know, decades ago, when i was a young senator, i -- this is how i felt, but i -- my views have changed, i was on the wrong side of history, here's how i feel now. why not just say that? >> it's a good question, and i think he does need to do that. that said, he had a rough night last night, that's absolutely true. i think that's true that that was just a really strong speech. he connected with a largely african-american audience with specificity. he reaffirmed the federal role in addressing discrimination at the state and local level. he put forth a pretty specific agenda on criminal justice reform. and it didn't feel like talking points. >> where was that joe biden last
night? >> exactly. kudos to him for learning from that. maybe there have been some conversations between last night and tonight, where joe biden learned that, you know, there's a way that he can talk about his civil rights record, that's really powerful, but i think we cannot look past the fact that in that room, that largely african-american room, people not only believed him, but they responded to him, and that's the power of a biden candidacy. he can work with and address, and partner with white working class voters. he also has a message for african-americans, we heard more of that message today, it should have been there last night. by the way, he needs to get rid of this voluntary versus involuntary bussing. it's just silly. but he's learned from that, and then talk about his positive civil rights record. >> that's an important point that josh was making, because just being in south carolina with him, last weekend -- i mean, almost every voter that i
talked to was a black voter, was a huge biden supporter. and, you know, was brushing aside the frock of it, he had with cory booker over the previous weeks comments about working with segregationist senators, so i think we have to keep remembering that over and over again, that even though in these debates, he's getting tripped up, there is so much love for him in that community. >> but -- >> and brook, i -- >> can i weigh-in? >> yeah. >> south carolina is one snapshot of a small community of people. as we've talked about on this show and other shows before, the black rovote is not a monolith. it's a primary state, but so is california, so is texas. the way the primaries are set up, i'm not anti-biden, i'm just offering my advice for 20 years in politics. kamala gave a compelling speech
in south carolina. mayor pete has given compelling speeches where everybody -- you know, they were all the rave, beto pete and bernie were all the rave for a while. i'm not saying biden can't win, i'm saying he's not the only person to win. just because a room in south carolina resonated with him, we have to think -- >> but we bet the micro and not the macro, we have to start looking outside of south carolina and looking at the entire electorate. i don't think he's the only path to victory. >> before we do that. >> hang on one second, josh. speaking of south carolina, kevin johnson issed south carolina state senator who has endorsed joe biden, senator, thank you for being with me, and welcome. >> thank you for having me, brooke, glad to be here. >> so how did you think he did last night and five minuting ago? >> well, let me take the five minutes ago first, he did a great job five minutes ago, i think the reason why the difference five minutes ago as
opposes to last night i've been in several debates, it's difficult to respond to issues when you have 30 seconds or 45 seconds. today was quite different, he had a chance to speak to a crowd for several minutes. and it's a lot easier to get your point across. i didn't think he did as bad as the pundits think he did last night, he was just put on the spot to try to defend some comments that he made 50 years ago, i'm always amazed that -- we want to overlook the great work that the vice president has done over the last 8 to 10 years, and go back 50 years when times were different and things were different. he did have different people he had to work with, in order to get things done on behalf of the people he represented. and on behalf of this country. >> i don't think people are trying to forget. i think a lot of people really celebrate and honor the man and the legacy he's left, with regard to so much in terms of civil rights. this is one huge issue, be it --
mave brought up his working with the senator segregationists or the issue where we have evidence on the record of him opposing federally mandated bussing to integrate our nation's school system. why do you think he can't just say, i was on the wrong side of history, and i change my mind? >> quite frankly, i would rather he do that, because i think he was on the wrong side of history. bussing back then was very controversial. there were a lot of people who agreed with him, even african-americans, and then there were those who did not. the whole integration and desegregation issue was very complicated. but i do wish that he would say, hey, looking back, hindsight being 2020, i made the wrong decision and if i had it to do over again, which a lot of times we don. i would think differently, do differently, i don't want that to overshadow the great work he
has done in the most recent history. even as vice president and in his distinguished career as a senator for 30, 40 years in this country. >> let me play some sound, this is how cory booker, who had previously called on biden to apologize for his remarks, this is how he reacted to the former vice president from last night's debate. >> i think that anybody who knows our painful history knows that on voting rights, on civil rights. on protections from hate crimes, it is -- the african-americans in this country and many other groups have had to turn to the federal government to intervene, because there were states that were violating those rights. that struck me, i literally leaned back in my couch and couldn't believe that one moment to me. and again, not understanding the history of the -- the need for the federal government -- >> so senator, can you explain biden's argument that this was a state's rights issue, a second ago, when he said was referring
to voluntary bussing, leading folks scratching their head. can you explain that? >> no, i cannot explain that, like i said, we're talking about 50 years ago, when times were different, and you're dealing with different people. i still say i agree, i wish he would just come out and say, i was wrong, and let's move forward. i want to say for the record, i think all of us realize that. even senator booker and senator harris, joe biden is not a racist, he's been a civil rights champion throughout his whole career. don't let one issue overshadow all the great work he's done in the area of civil rights. and the area of trying to do what's best for america. >> on that note. on that note, i hear you saying, this one thing 30, 40, 50 years ago, and people shubt be bringing it up, but biden himself, and a lot of his supporters point to his record and his experience is proof that
he knows how to govern, he knows how to get things done, isn't how he felt in the 1970s fair game? >> i think it's fair game. but i don't think it should overshadow everything that he has done. i think we all -- if we look back over 20, 30, 50 years of our lives, we have made mistakes, we have done things, we have said things that we wish we had not done and said. i think he would help himself to admit to that. it should not overshadow the great work that he has done, and the great work he continues to do. i want to put that out in, even me as a state senator. i have had to work from time to time with people who i don't agree with on a lot of things, in order to get some bills passed that i thought was good for south carolina, i have worked with them. we don't agree on a lot of things politically, there have been issues and inning substances where we could work together to further the state of south carolina, sometimes we have to do that, i think that's the point the vice president was trying to make, saying, i have
worked with these segregationists from time to time, in order to further some bills or pass some bills or get some things done that was good for the country at that time. not that he agrees with him, i'm sure he did not socialize with them and those types of things, he's worked with them over the years on issues he thought he needed to get support and get bills passed. that probably helped a lot of us. >> kevin johnson, thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. much more on this coming up. also, president trump having a couple laughs with vladimir putin about russia's attack on the u.s. elections, and getting rid of journalists. jimmy carter speaking out and raising questions about the legitimacy of trump's preside y presidency. why he's suggesting the president didn't actually win. you're watching cnn, it's friday, i'm brooke baldwin, we'll be right back. i've been diagnosed with
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heard from the former vice president. what did you think of how he was trying to defend himself, clean up his comments on bussing from last night. >> i think every candidate is going to talk about their vision for america. and every voter is going to make a judgment, looking at the totality of what the candidate has done throughout their career. they're going to ask themselves, does that candidate based on the work they've done, do they share my values, do they have my back? and can they win? that's the question that people are going to ask about every candidate, and what we're trying to do in our debate structure, and we've taken unprecedented steps to be inclusive, is to have these debates and candidate forums and other forums for them to articulate what they believe, it's going to be up to the voters to figure out, who has my back, who's fighting for me, what i was so excited about over
the last two nights, i think people saw the deep field that i've known as a democratic party. the most diverse field ever. the unity of values that we have is something that jumped off the page. we're trying to get to 100% health care, universal coverage. we're 90% of the way there, thanks to president obama and lbj and democrats. we had a spirited discussion about how to get to the mountain top, there's differences of opinion among candidates. no one candidate has a monopoly on the moral high ground. everyone put forth some really principled positions and on issues of civil rights and other critically important issues, you're also going to see these discussions, and you'll have to look at the totality of what everybody has done. >> and make your own decision. let me jump in, on the various opinions, one of our political analysts tweeted out, over heard while watching the debate just
now, i'm not sure i'm a democrat any more. complaining about how far left the party has moved. do you think they are too far left? >> if you have a pre-existing condition, and you can keep your health care coverage, making sure that we go after the pharmaceutical industry to bring down the cost of prescription drugs, making sure if you work a full time job, you can feed your family, making sure that if you want to join a union, you can do so, making sure that women can control their bodies. i think that's exactly what we need to do. and making sure that -- >> not saying you shun the. but you acknowledge that the crop is tilted left? that's not barack obama's democratic party or bill clinton's democratic party. this is a different crop of candidates. >> everything i talked about, it's the heart and soul of the democratic party. we've been fighting to make sure that everybody has access to quality affordable health care. we've been fighting to make sure
you have a decent minimum wage. $15 an hour. everybody's been fighting to ensure that we address the challenge of climate change. i don't call the challenge -- the challenge of climate change is existential. and the notion -- i think what's radical is the denial of climate science. that's what's radical here, so i think we're trying to build an economy that works for everyone. we're trying to build an america in which our values of compassion don't get thrown by the wayside, we're trying to build an america in which we are a nation of laws and we are a nation of immigrants. we've been able to do that since the beginning of time. >> one issue, one issue that no one brought up last night, impeachment of the president. this has been a massive topic of discussion on capitol hill. a lot of lawmakers on both nights of the stage, why do you think no one brought it up? >> the questions weren't asked about it. >> well, come on.
>> a lot of those candidates zigged and zagged and brought up whatever theyen watted to, no matter the question that was asked. they could have brought it up. >> what voters want to hear, where i've been going across the country. number one, we have a constitutional obligation to do oversite, no doubt about, no doubt about it in my mind that this is the most corrupt president in american history. and he has a cabinet that has a culture of corruption. and there's no doubt in my mind either, that the only way to remove donald trump is at the ballot box on november 3rd of 2020. we can and we must continue to do that oversight and we will. and we must also communicate to the voters what is our vision of an american that works for them? how are we going to have their back? elections are about the future, and i think people saw the last two nights where every candidate talking about the issues that are animating people, the issues that keep people up at night.
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like a way to fight cancer by arming a patient's own t-cells... because it's not just about the next breakthrough... it's all the ones after that. best selling author marianne williamson is a self-help guru and is running to be the president of the united states. some of her answers on the deoperate stage last night left a lot of people saying, huh? despite all that, she gave one of the most memorable lines. >> so mr. president, if you're listening, i want you to hear me, please. you have harnessed fear for political purposes, only love
can cast that out. i sir, i have a fear you know what i'm doing, i'm going to harness love for political purposes. and love will win. my first call is to the prime minister of new zealand, her goal is to make new zealand the best place in the world for a child to grow up. i will tell her, girlfriend, i'll see you there, the united states is going to be the best place to win. we have to get deeper than these superficial fixes. >> chris cillizza is here. for all you can say about her, and how she wound up on the debate stage. that last point was a bit of a mic drop. >> she's right. >> what's hard about that, though, the case she was making is cen willy, these policy positions are nice that you've all outlined, that's not how you
beat donald trump, she's not wrong, at the same time it is important for a party to talk about policy. but man that field of love, and i'll meet you there, that was amazing. regardless, this is top search candidates during round two of the debates. what's interesting about these, they usually track pretty closely with who you probably thought won. if you were interested enough to go look them up, it usually means they did well. kamala harris and pete buttigieg. look who's number one. marianne williamson. part of that is in truth, if you follow this stuff loosely, you kind of know who bernien sadders,you know kamala harris, who is that woman on the end talking about meeting donald trump on the field of love. this is more of a curiosity thing than a reflection that she won the debate.
but look, she's an author she's going to probably sell a lot of books. this is really interesting. this tends to track with where they stand in the poll. the moderators try to ask questions about people who have the perceived best chance to win. joe biden got the most. over 13 minutes. he didn't do that much great with it, but he got 13 minutes. williamson, 14:52 minutes. that's not a bad outcome for marianne williamson. i do think some people are thinking, who is this person, and why is she saying the things she's saying? last thing, andrew yang. he has a very big online following. i did not come away encouraged about her future. let me give him a piece of advice on doing his best to change it. you have to speak during the debate. less than three minutes of
talking time in 120 minute debate. you got to find ways to interject more often. >> yeah, yeah, and how effective were those three minutes? >> not very. >> i know. well, we'll see them all again, or however many of them again in detroit in a couple weeks. >> yes. >> chris cillizza, thank you very much. let's continue on. you're watching cnn on this friday afternoon, i'm brooke baldwin, joe biden vigorously defending his record today after a clash with the democratic debate. spark new concerns about his positions on race. last night senator harris pressed biden on his work with segregationist senators as well as his documented opposition to bussing in the 1970s. >> do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in america then? >> no. >> do you agree? >> i did not oppose bussing in america. what i opposed is bussing ordered byhe