tv State of Hate The Explosion of White Supremacy CNN June 30, 2019 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
bush answered a few questions in spanish -- then candidate trump gave him a hard time. >> this is a country where we speak english, not spanish. >> reporter: tell that to your vp. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. thanks for being here. the cnn special report "state of hate" starts now. the following is a cnn special report. >> america is at war with itself. >> young people openly racist. walking the streets of the united states.
>> cities turn to battlegrounds. >> another beautiful life stolen. >> charlottesville. >> this is my town! >> pittsburgh! >> murdered because they were jewish. >> charleston. >> he said he wanted to kill black people. >> in city after city -- >> you are looking at your own backyard. >> an army of hate. >> jews will not replace us. >> whose numbers are soaring. the country is changing. >> get the [ bleep ] out of here. my country! >> the fear growing. >> go home. go home. >> and it's spreading across the world. >> why would you treat us like that? >> a fire -- >> hail trump.
>> fed by politics. >> very fine people on both sides. >> haunted by the past. >> hitler says we can learn from them. >> the roots of the crisis. >> there was a boom and there was nothing left. >> the flashpoint question. >> all men are created equal. you don't believe that? >> of course not. t >> the fabric of a country. >> not welcome here. >> demands a call for action. >> we have never done all that could be done. >> once upon a time in america, it looked like almost everyone was white. t
>> the idea of america as a white man's country, very powerful idea. >> in 1960, whites made up 89% of the country. black people were decidedly second class citizens. >> "leave it to beaver." >> the only african-american who played a role on "leave it to beaver" appeared as a maid. >> white, white, white, white, white. >> then came the immigration act of 1965. >> i now declare each of you to be a citizen of the united states. >> america's doors opened to immigrants from new countries. non-western lands. by the 1980s, the white percentage was down about 10 points. >> this land, its people, those are what make america soar.
>> immigrants kept coming, even as the white birth rate declined. by the 2000s, the census bureau had news for us. >> minority groups will become the majority in the united states by the year 2043. >> many americans celebrated the new diversity. but for one group, it was a five alarm fire. >> white power. >> we have to understand a sense of emergency as animating this movement. because all of this is about an meet and apocalyptic danger to the future. >> there are plenty of white people. they deserve a future, not to be simply melted away in this multi-racial mishmash that they did not choose. >> this man is a white
supremaci supremacist. he does not advocate violence. >> i'm not talking about the entire united states becoming white. i'm talking about a portion. more and more white people agree with me all the time. they do not want to become a minority. >> would that mean maybe creating a new nation? >> ideally, yes. >> we will hear more from taylor later. repeat ledly he voices the biggt fear of the white supremacy movement. >> should i want my people to disappear? it's moral to resist that kind of replacement. >> jews will not replace us. >> replacement. the word has become a call to arms. >> jews will not replace us. >> charlottesville did shock a lot of people.
the united states of america fought a war against nazi germ anies. >> instead of hoods and swastikas, they wore khakis and golf shirts. some of them call themselves the alt right. others, white nationalists. >> very clever rebranding. >> it became clear, they might have new names, but they were america's old of the nightmare. white supremacy.
>> get him off! >> holy shit! >> grief and shock in charlottesville, virginia. >> one person is dead. >> the year after charlottesville, the number of white nationalists groups soared. by one estimate, up almost 50%. >> 30 seconds to zero time. >> some have become especially violent. this group is called atomic weapons. >> the things they were planning was horrible. >> one former member warned the police about deadly plots. >> planning to kill civilian
life. >> were they specific in their plans? >> power lines, nuclear reactors, synagogues. >> is the federal government fighting this? >> how come we don't have enough tools right now to pull these people in? >> at a recent hearing on white supremacy, this congresswoman, a muslim, read a letter she had gotten in the mail. >> i was excited and pleased when i heard about 49 muslims were kill ed and many -- many more were wounded in new zealand. this is a great start. let's hope and pray that it continues here in the good old usa. the only good muslim is a dead one. >> first, my empathy. >> listen to the way the money is spent.
>> those agents in the field that work domestic terrorism, about 20%. we have about 80% working international terrorism. >> that's right. four times as many agents on international terror, even though last year just one person died from ann islamic terror attack in america. 49 were killed in domestic extremist attacks. >> there's a mindset that has to be dealt with. >> this is not just an american story. there is now a worldwide movement of white supremacists. sharing the twisted ideas on the internet. in march, a gunman massacred 51 people at prayer in new zealand. in his 87-page manifesto, the terrorist cited his inspiration. white supremacists in america,
britain, sweden, norway. all of these people believe they are being replaced and must fight to resist it. and much of this discourse on white supremacy is centered in the united states of america. how did this happen? where did it come from? after slavery, the holocaust, civil rights movement. the truth is, race has been the central conflict in american life from the day the republican was born. we witnessed extreme racism before. in periods of upheaval and rapid social change. and now once again, we are living in such a time. >> hail trump. hail our people. hail victory. >> we need to make america great again. >> trump definitely energized the alt right.
we have this connection. we can inflict his policies. >> we are determined to take our country back. we're going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. >> donald trump is not a white supremacist. but there is no doubt that he is a hero to many in the white supremacy movement. the current upsurge might have been triggered, however, because of another president. >> thank you. >> barack obama's election was a moment of joy and unity for millions of americans. >> god bless the united states of america. >> but some, perhaps many, were shocked by it. >> clearly, the presence of a black family in the white house deranged many millions of americans. >> once obama was in the white house, the backlash grew and
grew. >> you remember some of the racist caricatures of obama as a monkey, gorilla. >> overt and ugly displays of racism became common. >> coming to you on a silver platter. barack hussein obama. >> why doesn't he give us his birth certificate? >> the charge that obama was not born in this country. >> no other american president was badgered to prove he was an american. >> the idea of whether he was born in the united states, i think that's a metaphor. is he one of us? answer, no. >> obama combined the two fires that feed white supremacy. attitudes towards backs and fears about immigration. >> whether our forebears were
strapge strangers who crossed the atlantic, pacific, rio grande, we are here because this country welcomed them in. >> throughout the history of this country, immigration has reinvigorated the united states. but it has also awakened the darkest american impulses. one little remembered chapter holds a frightening reminder of where those impulses can lead. ellis island, 100 years ago. immigrants were pouring into the country at times 100,000 a month. packed body to body on boats, penniless, hungry, desperate to become americans. >> they were considered just inferior. polish people or jewish people or southern italians. >> at the time, many european
immigrants were considered to be entirely different races. >> people referred to people from ireland as a race. people from hungary as a race. the jews as a race. >> with new enemies to hate, membership in the klan soared. >> hugo black was a member of the ku klux klan. >> until 1925 when he served as a supreme court justice until 1971. back then, white supremacy was an elite movement led by the richest and most powerful. they came up with a solution. a pseudo-science called eugenics, based on the belief that many americans were mentally defective.
among them immigrants. >> america is degenerating. >> they believe so-called defectives should not be allowed to reproduce. >> sterilize women who were thought not capable of having the right kind of children. >> thousands of women were sterilized as the fake science became a national craze. it decided it was time to bring its so-called research to capitol hill. >> charts of data purporting to show that people from italy, from poland, from the slavic countries were genetically inferior to the northern european, to the nordic. >> after months deef ba s of dew immigration act was passed. >> they shut the door. reduced immigration to the united states by 97%.
>> meanwhile, something even more disturbing was happening in europe. an ambitious young german leader was watching america closely. >> hitler had some real praise for the united states. >> hitler was even meeting with the leaders of the movement. >> hitler said, the united states is really on the money. we can learn from them. >> as hitler's power grew and his ambitions became clear, americans saw the terrifying consequences of white supremacy. most pulled back from the edge. eugenics died out in america. of course, hitler's plans did not. >> that idea of improving the human race, which is what eugenics is all about, had echos
in nazi policy of the 1930s and the holocaust is one horrific consequence of that. >> white lives matter. >> the white supremacy of today has not reached the level it did a century ago. burt some of its deeply troubling ideas are returning. >> you don't think all races are equal. >> no. i do not. i don't see why anyone would. >> the white nationalist jared taylor is a learned man. a graduate of yale like myself. we don't see eye to eye to say the least. >> i want the people of africa to make africa the best possible continent they can for africans. africans, i believe, will be happiest not living in a society like ours. >> i think that you place so much weight on the fact that a certain group of people's ancestors spent more time in the sun than another group. their skin is darker. >> do you think that blacks and whites are basically identical
twins separated at birth, that they are replaceable? >> he believes that non-whites have made america worse. why are hispanics not okay? they are european. >> the people who qualify as hispanic can come from honduras, guatemala. they are genetically and physically different from europe europeans. >> people thought of jews are a separate race. >> they are a sub-race of races. they dressed in odd ways. they behaved in odd ways. they were alien. >> apparently, some jews are white. >> there are many jews that do not look jewish at all. they have lived among europeans for a long time. >> racism can become confusing.
who is we and who is they? >> almost never is there any confusion as to what race someone is. almost never. >> well, let's try one case, mine. i think scholars would agree i have as good a claim on being caucasian as you do. people who come out of central asia, out of the caucuses. in fact the term arian, which is another one used, comes specifically out of india, which is where i grew up. why am i not a caucasian? >> if you are advocating policies based on racial categories, i want to understand where i fit in. >> i think most people would not consider you white. >> it's not a popularity contest. >> most of the time it's not all that difficult to tell. >> how? >> from visual inspection. >> luook at people and figure ot how white they are. >> i know very well what white means. you don't but i do.
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>> get back! >> a truck bomb rips through a federal building. >> there was a boom and there was nothing left. >> seemed like the whole world ended. >> 168 are dead. including 19 children. >> you are not watching some scene of international catastrophe. you are looking at your own backyard. >> at the time, it was the deadliest attack on american soil since pearl harbor. the terrorist, a young man named timothy mcveigh. he has been thought of as a lone wolf. but in reality, he was part of a movement. >> what do we want? white power. >> he had been a member of the ku klux klan. he had contacts with other white
supremacists across the country. and the inspiration for his called the bible of american - white supremacists. it gave birth to a little known armed white rebellion. that continues to this day. >> this is cold blooded murder. >> to understand oklahoma city and today's violence in charleston and pittsburgh -- shots fired, shot fired. >> we need to understand mcveigh's favorite book. it's called "the turner diaries." >> nationalism really is the wave of the future. >> it was written in the 1970s by william pierce. >> i did admire many things hitler wrote. >> he was a physics professor who became a leading figure in
the white supremacist mocvement >> i for one under god will die before i will yield one inch. >> for years, the all powerful ku klux klan had led the charge. >> threats. beatings. rapings and, of course, murder. ♪ we shall overcome >> then came the civil rights movement. a crushing blow to the klan. >> free at last. free at last. thank god almighty, we are free at last. >> in its wake, klan membership declined. white supremacists were divided. among competing ideologies. pierce wrote "the turner diaries" hoping to unite the movement behind a story.
>> pierce knew fiction would be more powerful than fact. >> it was the tale of earl turner, a soldier in a white rebellion. >> we are in a war to the death with the jew. >> against the evil jewish controlled american government. turner bombs fbi headquarters and other targets. joining an elite terrorist group called the order. the group kills millions of blacks, jews and their allies on the road to victory. >> spoiler alert, the book ends with turner flying a bomb into the pentagon. >> pierce's race war fantasy struck a cord. >> so many requests, they started to stock it. >> selling half a million copies. >> it's to this point the most influential piece of white supremacist writing that exists. >> what began as fiction, became
a real life rebellion. powerful new white supremacist armies sprung up in the 1980s. boasting tens of thousands of hard core members. >> you could say we're the front line soldiers for the movement. >> many were directly inspired by "the turner diaries." >> we offered ourselves up tory to save america. >> officially declaring war on the united states government. one group actually took its name from the book. the order. >> there was a change in the activity carried out by the white power movement. >> the group's adopted the book's terrorist tactics. >> they stole $4 million. >> including armed robberies to get funding. and assassinations. >> ten defendants were charged with conspiracy to overthrow the u.s. government.
>> the federal government tried to bring the movement down. >> did you plan to overthrow the government? >> indicting several of its r g ringleaders. they were all acquitted by an all white jury. >> the trial is really important because when it collapsed, the government got paranoid and really backed away from treating white supremacy as a coherent movement. >> it's our young people who are going to reclaim america. >> emboldened, the white power groups gained more momentum in the 1990s. collaborating with other anti-government militias. >> the white power movement grows into the militia movement. >> then a bloody standoff. >> his son and wife and a marshal were killed. >> in ruby ridge, idaho.
the demise of the branch davidian cult battling the feds near waco, texas. >> you are a disgrace to the white race. >> brought the movement to a fever pitch. >> while these incidents are happening, the number of groups in the united states is skyrocketing. the number of white supremacist groups is leaping in tandem with that. >> among those angry young men was a gulf war veteran named timothy mcveigh. he had been very interested in "the turnerdiaries" while he was in the army. >> he read it for three or four weeks. you gotta read this book. >> after mcveigh left the military, he radicalized even more. getting involved with the militia in michigan. he met with white supremacists across the nation while on the gun show circuit. he also sold his favorite book. >> i just arrived today.
>> he was outraged by waco. >> somebody told me people would be scared. >> which he visited in person during the standoff. the fiery inferno there drove him to action. >> he decides that this government is so dangerous to its own citizens that it needs to be destroyed. >> holy cow. >> on april 19, 1995, the two-year anniversary of waco, mcveigh carried out what he considered to be his masterpiece. the attack was similar to earl turner's attack on the fbi in "the turner diaries." it was the same kind of target, a federal building. a similar kind of bomb. detonated at the same time of day, just after 9:00 a.m. mcveigh had become earl turner.
his white supremacist hero. >> when he was arrested a few days after the bombing, he had pages of "the turner diaries" in his car. that's how people were able to connect the dots. >> today there are tributes to mcveigh and "the turner diaries" all over the internet. remember the deadly group set to apl attack nuclear plants? authorities discovered they had explosives, radioactive material and a framed federal of timothy mcveigh along with a copy of "the turner diaries." the shawn mendes verizon up concert was surreal.
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for white supremacy to exist, there has to be some standard for whiteness. >> people think they know what white is. if you walk down the street, you say, that person is white, that person doesn't seem white. as a scientific concept, it's completely murky. >> experts say visible differences among races are mostly a result of how much time their ancestors spent in the sun. >> there are differences in color between different people. but those do not go along with inner characteristics of intelligence or self-control or anything like that. there are no racial qualities that some people have and other people don't have. >> you will not replace us. >> in other words, racial hierarchy is a social construction. who is considered white at the top of the heap has always been determined by those in power.
this case tells the story. >> the case in the 1920s shows the absurdity. >> he was an immigrant from india who had served in the u.s. army in world war i and married an american woman. >> at that time, he was not allowed to become an american citizen because he was non-white. question. who is white? >> he argued he was white because his people, from the state of panjab of india, were from arians. the term finds its origins in asia, referring to the people from central asia who are believed to have later migrated to india. remember, the caucasians refers to people from the caucuses mountains. >> what the court says is, would
most white americans view you as white? if the answer is no, i'm sorry, no. >> what kind of concept is that? >> the judges made the case that the purity of the aryan blood in india had been destroyed when arians intermarried with the local population there. implying that he was, therefore, not a pure aryan. ironically, nazi racial policies were based on similar ideas, that the germans were the only pure aryans because the original ones had intermarried. america's racial distinctions were closely studied by the nazis. >> that learning leaves its imprint in part on hitler's nuremberg laws. >> using dubious pseudo-science to prop up racism happens in
2019. remember jared taylor? >> most people would not consider you white. >> you believe whites are superior in terms of intelligence? >> the evidence seems to suggest that the smartest people in the world are jews. then east asians. then whites. then hispanics are very heterogenius. black africans come near the bottom. >> white genetic variations among human populations clearly exist, human beings are, in fact, 99.9% identical in their genetic makeup. >> we sequence the first genome. >> one of the geneticist who mapped a human genome put it simply. there's no basis in scientific fact or in the human genetic code for the notion that skin color will be predictive of intelligence.
nevertheless, efforts to categorize people into a racial hierarchy go back hundreds of years. >> whether it's five races, three races, africans and m mongoloids. there's this pseudo-racial science which tries to give a supposedly objective grounding to what is ultimately a system of prejudice. >> another case in 1896 shows just how arbitrary definitions of race can be in america. >> a man who was white by any definition, but he was considered black because maybe one black ancestor. >> he intentionally boarded a whites only train car in louisiana, challenging the state's separate but equal laws. >> the conductor came and said,
get out of this car. you are not white. >> when he refused to leave, he was arrested. in what became known as the separate but equal decision, the supreme court ruled against him, ushering in decades of discriminatory laws. >> the idea was to separate black people, to ostracize black people, to put a marker on black people. it was the american cast system. that's an idea deeply, deeply, deeply entrenched in american culture. t-mobile.eason to join customer care from real people. a dedicated team to support you. and here's another reason to join. bring in your discount, and we'll match it. that's right. t-mobile will match your discount. ♪work so hard give it everything you got♪ ♪strength of a lioness tough as a knot♪ ♪rocking the stage and we're never gonna stop♪
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one horrific day last march in the city of christchurch, new zeala zealand, a man entered a mosque and started shooting. >> i don't understand why someone would hurt us like this just an animal. why would you treat us like that? >> 51 people murdered during friday evening prayers. by a white supremacist. >> you may have chosen us, but we utterly reject and condemn you. >> the killer's weapons were inscribed with names, racist messages and nazi symbols. one was a young swedish girl killed in a terror attack in april of 2017. the new zealand terrorist
mentioned her many times in his manifesto. to take revenge for ebba, he wrote. the inspiration for his gruesome attack came from another white supremacist. he committed the worse massacre in norway's history in 2011. >> an assassin dressed as a police officer opened fire at a summer camp. >> he murdered 77 people, most of them teenagers at a summer youth camp run by the labor party. his manifesto was about multi-culturalism and a call to arms for other white supremacists. like the new zealand terrorist who echoed many of the same themes in his manifesto. he called it the great replacement. >> you will not replace us. >> remember, that was one of the chants from the charlottesville rally. in fact, the idea doesn't come
from america. it comes from a french group of intellectuals called the european new right that first ee merm emerged as a reaction to the loss of france's colony algeria. they did not want muslim kol n colonists living in france. most rejected that racist talk. >> it made europeans wary about using the language of white supremacy as people began to understand where some of the ideas led. >> it was seen as a shameful chapter in europe's history in which europeans had treated their foreign subjects brutally. for instance, at the end of the 19th century, they murdered thousands. the british tortured and killed
thousands in detention camps in kenya. the backlash to post-colonial guilty remained on the fringes for decades. soon, a new movement turned the ideas into action. they call themselves ithemselve identitarians. it included racist groups across the world. >> our movement is growing. >> nationalism. population replacement. >> the great replacement. >> they repost one another's comments and statements. they watch one another's videos. they are very much part of the same culture now. >> then in 2015, the movement found its moment. the migrant crisis. >> every day, every hour, illegal immigrants are flooding the border.
an invasion is taking place. >> large numbers of people began arriving in europe in dramatic ways. >> heavy. >> as europe argued over who would take the migrants, sweden set an example and welcomed them in. in my europe, said sweden's prime minister, we don't build walls, we help each other out. instead, 2015 became the year of walls and borders. >> a state of emergency. >> it was also the year of a series of deadly terror attacks that began to hit the heart of europe. it was ten days after the attack
at the theater in paris that sweden suddenly reversed course. it was painful for sweden's leaders to announce the country was restricting its borders. but sweden had quickly become overwhelmed. percentage-wise had it taken in more than any other country in europe. >> the far right deliberately made sweden into a symbol of chaos and destruction of western culture. >> even america's president jumped on the bandwagon. >> sweden, who would believe this? >> when they hear donald trump using language that they know comes from their ideology -- >> having problems like they never thought possible. >> they feel energized and they feel they have succeeded. >> it's wonderful that he is addressing this. he is bringing this to the attention of the people. >> in fact, sweden has had a long history of successful
immigration. in the most recent parliamentary elections, far right party saw success, including in sweden. overall, didn't perform as well as predicted. now there are signs that the political terrain is shifting. liberal and green parties across the continent saw an astonishing and unexpected surge of support. that happened after this. tens of thousands took to the streets across europe with an entirely different message. one europe for everyone. wireless network claims are so confusing.
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empires." >> have you read "the rise of the colored empires"? everybody ought to read it. >> the idea is if we don't look out, the white race will be utterly submerged. >> the dominant race to watch out or these other races -- >> it's scientific stuff. it's been proved, he says. fitzgerald might not have been endorsing these sentiments, the character who mouths them is one of the least admirable ones in the book, representing a certain kind of unthinking, vulgar rich man. and yet in 1921, just a few years before he wrote the book, fitzgerald wrote a letter to a critic explaining his own views. the negroids sneak through.
permit only scandinavians to end. fitzgerald seems aware his views were not politically correct. he adds in the letter, my reactions were anti-socialist, provincial and racially snobbish. he persisted in his view of racial hierarchy. we are as far above the modern frenchman as he is above the negro. the reason i begin with this literary reference is to remind us all how deeply embedded is the idea of racial hierarchy in western civilization. in fact, in some ways it's in the dna of the modern west because from the 16th and 17th centuries, as europe grew richer and stronger, it began to assume that its material success must be a result of its superiority, religious or ethnic or racial. this view built on centuries of western success has taken deep root and not just among whites.
people across asia and africa prefer light skin to dark. >> i realize an obstacle was my skin. >> spent billions of dollars on creams to make them whiter. >> in the black community in the united states, there's a preference for lighter skin. ironically, this all persists despite the fact that we're now living this an age where the fastest growing economies in the world are asian. where china and south korea and india are demonstrating powerfully that they can be as materially successful as the whitest and most nordic people. the fact that these views are so deep seeded, subconsciously part of the modern psyche, is why we are unable to see the growing danger in our midst. the number of white militants has grown sharply. they have attacked more often and with greater brutality.
and yet the authorities have always seemed to be surprised and unprepared. perhaps unable to fully internalize the nature of this ideology and its violent ambitions. it's important to understand as america and the western world become more mixed, multicultural, the backlash will grow. white supremacists want to do more than just protest. they make this clear in their internal communications. they are planning for it every day. let's hope we can all recognize this danger before they succeed. i'm fareed zakaria. thank you for watching.
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