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just text listen5 to 500500. good morning. so grateful to have you with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. tropical storm barry spinning off the gulf coast as it makes landfall, it could well be a hurricane. over a foot of rain is possible in some areas with winds holding at 65 miles per hour and a storm surge rising as high as six feet. some highways are already swamped, and tens of thousands of customers are already lost power. >> louisiana is really getting ready here. they're closing all of the floodgates, all of them as the mayor of new orleans calls for voluntary evacuations, federal
emergency preparedness officials are warning there are possible tornadoes as this storm passes. mississippi's governor has joined louisiana's in declaring a state of emergency already. we have cnn meteorologist allison chinchar with us now who has just gotten an update. what are you learning this hour, allison? >> right, the latest update still shows what we've been seeing the last 24 to 48 hours, that the storm is still continuing to intensify. albeit slowly, but that in and of itself presents a concern because the slower this system moves, the more time it has to dump a tremendous amount of rain. here's the latest statistics -- winds still about 65 miles per hour. keep in mind that's less than ten miles per hour off from being a category-one hurricane. we're close, we're just not quite there. forward movement is west/northwest at about five miles per hour. we need it to start taking that direct northward turn before we can really pinpoints the exact landfall point. we still expect it to be this morning.
likely just a few hours from now as it makes landfall over portions of louisiana. the national hurricane center still saying they expect this to be a low-end cardigtegory-one s as it makes landfall. we're talking about a difference of less than ten miles per hour with the winds. yes, even if it stays a high-end tropical storm, the winds aren't going to differ that much. the main focus with this storm has been and is still going to be the rainfall. we're starting to see some of the heavier rain bands already creep in, not just to louisiana but also into portions of mississippi and alabama. again, this is going to be a multistate impact from this particular storm. you notice as the storm continues to push north as we go through the day, it's going to continue to bring more and more of those heavy rain bands. the majority of the convection or the thunderstorms with this particular storm have actually been on the south side of the storm. that's also where we've been seeing the majority of our severe storms.
what i don't want is for people to get complacent thinking that once the center of the storm passes over, i'm fine, wii've bn through the worst of it, because the majority of the severe storms are on the south side. meaning that no one's experienced some of the worst in terms of the severe storm potential with this particular tropical storm. we still anticipate damaging winds. the potential for large hail, and yes, the potential for tornadoes. the heavy rain is going to be a big concern not just in louisiana, but look at how far the heavy rain stretches, well into memphis. widespread amounts, five to ten inches of rain. but it's not out of the question to get over a foot of rain before in is done. we still also have the storm surge that's going to be a main concern here. the light pink color, about two to four feet. the brighter pink color, you're talking three to five or even three to six feet here. one thing i want to point out, martin and christy is how it acts. under normal circumstances new
orleans acts as a colander. what you would cook pasta in. the rain comes down, but it has holes. they've closed the floodgates. and the pumps are limited in how much water they can pump out. if you get intense rain, new orleans no longer acts like a cal an rad colander but a bowl. that's one of the problems with the flooding in new orleans specifically. >> my goodness. allison chinchar, great atelling that. thank you for helping us whands they're dealing with -- us understand what they're dealing with. we have a team of reporters out ahead of the storm. gary tuchman in new orleans, natasha chen live in morgan city, louisiana. good morning to both of you. i want to start with you, natasha. what are you experiencing right now? >> reporter: we are expecting to see this hurricane make landfall just west of us later this morning. we are already feeling the rain bands and heavier gusts of wind.
right now certain parts of town seem to have lost power. i talked to residents who said that they were gathering at hotels over places they could see where the lights are still on because their generators back at home may or may not be working at the moment. we are preparing for the worst yet to come. right now, the mayor is most concerned about the flooding. not so much about the wind gusts, but as you all were just discussing, this is about how fast and how much the city's pumps can handle. say that have seven pumps right now in morgan city. that's after they brought in extra yesterday. they're expecting about 10 to 20 inches over the course of three days. as long as that comes in waves, as long as there are breaks between the heavier bands of rain, they have a fighting chance to be able to pump this out. if those 10 to 20 inches come all at once, they're going to be in trouble. >> take good care of yourself there.
we can hear the wind kicking up as she's there. joining us from new orleans, cnn national correspondent gary tuchman. you've been through many of these before, but new orleans is a very special place with a history that haunts many when weather turns like this, right? >> reporter: well, that's right. more generations new orleans, louisiana, has been scarred by hurricanes and tropical storms. as much as 14 summers ago, a horrible time period here in nor with hurricane katrina that killed hundreds. tropical storm barry or maybe hummer barry in a couple of hours is no hurricane katrina, let's attest to that. but the dangers are unknown at this point. we stand right now in the french quarter where all the tourists come when they come to new orleans. this is jackson square. behind me is the mississippi river. unlike hurricane katrina where you had massive levee failures to led to disaster, the concern is that the levels of the mississippi river can rise too high from the rains that are
starting to come now, will continue throughout the day. the flood walls along the mississippi river could hold 20 feet of water. because of flooding over the past weeks and months, the mississippi river current she at 16.5 feet, a very high level. the thought was just as recently as yesterday that it could go to 19.5, for close to 20 feet. right now, the past couple of hours, we've gotten the latest report that the feeling is the levels won't go as high as they thought not because there's going to be a lot of rain, it is, but that it will be spread out over a long period of time. the thought is the levels may not go over 17.5 feet which is good news. talking about the floodgates, i'm on top of a flood wall. i will walk gingerly to one of the floodgates to give you a look at what the gates look like. this here is a floodgate. it was shut last night. this area of jackson square, you can no longer go on. they want everybody to be
careful, to be away from the water. water-pumping plants are open near lake pontchartrain to pump the water back into lake pontchartrain, back into the gulf of mexico ultimately. and also levees have been improved since hurricane katrina hit. the levees are much stronger. that is what i mentioned at the beginning, the massive failures, literally levees split apart, one chunk on the 17th street canal, one of the large nest new orleans, a 450-foot piece of wall split off. the water plunged through, and that helped contribute to the hundreds of deaths here in new orleans. new orleans, louisiana, is very lively and crowded every night. it was just a friday night. it's still friday to some people. but it was quiet as everyone awaits the arrival of barry. martin, back to you. >> gary, real quick, the mayor there was new orleans put out an order basically for people to shelter in place. in other words, not to evacuate. did that cause controversy
there? >> reporter: right. there was no practical way to tell people to evacuate and get out because it was so quick as the warnings came. no controversy. most have sheltered in place, they have been told this is not going to be the huge wind event that katrina or other hurricanes are. most people are not panicking. they're certainly concerned because of what happened 14 years ago, but everyone is being very wary, very careful, but feel and ultimately the city is telling them it's likely they'll end up being safe, too, and that's what we hope. >> you know, gary, ryan young spoke with someone in the ninth ward yesterday who said they would only leave if god told them to do so. in other words, they weren't taking this storm particularly seriously. listening to what allison said, that the strongest bands, this is kind of -- a storm that's in reverse as we know from a conventional either hurricane or tropical storm, usually the northeast fans are the ones that are the strongest.
she's saying according to what they know the south bands are going to be the most potent. is there concern there that people will get complacent, that they will think, okay, it's passed, there's nothing left to worry about? >> reporter: there's certainly the possibility that people could get complacent because this is going to last for a long time. because of cnn, because of the local tv stations, because of the media coverage, because of twitter, because of facebook, everyone knows what's going on. there's no one we talked to who isn't aware that this is not going to be the wind event of other hurricanes, but it is going to be a massive rain event. they have to be and have the history here to know they have to be careful. very little complacency is seen in new orleans, louisiana. >> all right. you be careful, too, gary. we'll check back with you regularly. thank you so much. >> you and the crew, take good care there. listen, hundreds of people are in the streets protesting president trump's upcoming migrant raids. look at this picture out of
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tomorrow of tomorrow. they're targeting nine cities across the country. a u.s. official says they're focusing on families who already have court orders to be removed. an i.c.e. spokesman said, quote, i.c.e. prioritizes the arrest and removal of unlawful present aliens that pose a threat to national security, border safety and public security. in chicago after given months to stay in the united states, a migrant mother has been seeking sanctuary inside a church. for the past two years, mind you, she says she will anxiously be watching tomorrow's i.c.e. raids. >> cnn's rosa flores has the moving story. >> reporter: fran ciscalina has lived in chicago for the past 20 years and raised her children. for past two years she's lived inside a church, away from her home, and hoping to not be deported. leno who is undocumented says
she gets in a panic thinking about being pulled away and stashed in overcrowded facilities she's seen on the news. she took sanctuary in this church, a place agents typically avoid raiding. do you have a plan if there's a raid here in this church? >> no. >> reporter: now she's worried that it could all come to an end to weekend. planned i.c.e. raids in cities across the country including chicago are set to begin. for more than a decade, a time span covering administrations of both parties, leno checked in with immigration officials twice a year, and there was never any issue until donald trump took office. cnn was there in 2017, the morning. her first check-in, during the trump era. >> translator: that brings me a lot of fear. >> reporter: it was an emotional affair for her entire family. first, an immigration agent told her she could stay for another year. >> translator: i feel very happy because i was given another year. >> reporter: and then --
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thus far this morning. and there's a live picture for you. i believe that's of lake pontchartrain. >> officials in st. mary parrish is expecting 10 to 20 inches of rain the next three days. more than 48,000 are without power across the state. we want to go straight to cnn's erica hill, in lafayette, louisiana. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. lafayette really important as we talk about what could happen not only during but after the storm because there's so much of a focus on flooding. as you have been talking about throughout the morning, this is a very large storm, it is slow moving, and there is more on the back side. one of the areas that they're specifically concerned about is st. mary's parrish, as you mentioned. the river which runs through lafayette wasn't initially as much of a concern for officials here because it is currently below its normal levels. last night we heard some differing things from the sheriff's department saying now they are a little bit more concerned about the river here,
concerned that with all of the rain that is coming, it could, in fact, increase the levels here in that river. that could then continue to flow down river. that's one of the concerns that could affect places south. for a better look at how this flooding could be affected, why it is such a concern in low-lying areas, i want to bring in meteorologist allison chinchar. and it is so importance to stress as we're hearing from officials just because people think, oh, part of this has passed, yes, there's a lot of rain, but when the rain is gone, the threat is gone, that is not the case because the flooding threat could actually continue for days if not weeks because of the way the mississippi will be flowing, correct? >> yes, and you have to understand that we haven't really had a storm like this where the mississippi river has been at these high levels before. you hear a lot of people comparing the storm to hurricane katrina or isaac or tropical storm allison. a lot of these others. you have to understand you're comparing apples to oranges. again, the mississippi river is at very, very high levels.
not just in new orleans but at a lot of spots further upstream. so you have to factor that in that, yes, we may only be adding dave brigtwo to four feet or th six, it's not going to take that much to trigger flooding. from a real-life perspective, let's look at what the numbers mean when we say two to three feet, four to six feet, it can be hard to visualize. here's the home along the coast. you have the high and low tides, you can see the differences there. what happens when you start to factor in that storm surge that comes in? here's about two feet, you saw that on the low end of the chart that we were showing. now bring in four feet. now it begins to trickle into the lower levels of someone's home. but once you get up to six feet, now you're starting to creep into almost covering the entire first story of someone's home. and if this is where you have been told to shelter in place, like some government officials
have been telling people that do, this doesn't give you a lot of options if you are lucky enough to have a second level, you can go up there. if you don't, this is why we have the potential to end up having water rescues for people who decide to stick it out in their homes along the low-lying areas because that water will continue to rise. now, when we also talk about this, it's not just storm surge, we're it also talking about the water that's going to -- we're also talking about the water that's going to come down from the sky. you have the storm surge underneath you and rain coming from above you. that's why we have such a huge flood risk with this particular storm. again, it's not just for louisiana. i can't emphasize that enough. other states are going to be impacted. mississippi, arkansas, and tennessee, all have portions of them or in mississippi's case the entire state of mississippi is under a flood watch. we're talking over ten million people dealing with that threat. and it's because of the moisture that's going to come in from this particular storm that you
can see. here's a look. that moisture will start to surge north as the storm itself does. taking all of the moisture into even further states like missouri, illinois, indiana, kentucky. so even if you don't live on the coast, you still need to keep a close eye on this storm. if you live in the midwest or even eventually in the northeast, that's where that moisture is all going to surge into. taking with it the chance for some very heavy rain. this is a look at the flash flood threat. the red and the pink indicates moderate and high risk, respectively. again, you can see this really does encompass a decent area. most importantly, guys, it's going to encompass an area that is already low-lying areas that are prone to flooding, let alone when you factor in not only a tropical storm, potentially a hurricane, but the fact that the ground is already saturated from months of heavy, high flow on the rivers, and months of heavy rain. >> thank you. to reiterate, one of the reasons
we are in la fay set because so much -- lafayette is because so much is staged here. boats, buses, as well. when they need to, they can launch from here and to bring people once they've been evacuated to ideally meet one friends and family in other areas. i want to go to natasha chen in morgan city, a major focus and where i believe some of the 48,000 customers without power are located now, as well. >> reporter: that's right. we're seeing that parts of town, their lights have flickered off as we were getting to the seawall location where we are. you were talking about the saturation and the fact that the mississippi river has been at flood stage already for so long, as barry comes in. where we are standing is the top of staircase, we're at the bottom and it's too dark to show now. there is water over the bottom few steps. we can see that the river has covered trash cans and benches
where people normally are able to walk out there and sit. so think of that situation, then add on this tropical storm, possibly hurricane, that is going to make landfall later today. now as of yesterday, they were doing voluntary evacuations for people in town. but so far as i could see, i don't see too much many that we've talked to who decided to leave town. there are some people who have decided to go to a hotel so that there is potentially a better chance to have power. but they are definitely prepared for the fact that streets may flood. this is a place that's expecting 10 to 20 inches of rain with seven performs, that's already after additional ones were brought in. seven pumps to try and get all of this water out throughout the day. what they are concerned about is that these pumps can handle the first five inches of rain, and then one inch per hour. if they get the 10 to 20 all at once, they're going to be in some serious trouble.
>> that is a big concern. the sustained rates that it could be there for such a long time. you talk about the people who decided to say as we know, we always hear if you are staying you need to make sure you have three days worth of food and water. in terms of preparation, did you get the sense that they were preparing, that they did have those supplies stocked and ready were they to be stuck in their homes for potentially days on end? >> reporter: i haven't spoken to too many people about what they actually prepared. the one person that we ran into in the middle of the night here as we're coming out to do these reports said he was actually hanging out at the hotel because there was no power at home, and the generator had stopped working. it sounds like people have generators, that they prepared for the possibility of going without power for a little while. the emergency management folks that we saw yesterday said they are just waiting for monday because as long as this rainfall estimate that they're getting is
over the course of three days, they say they may have a fighting chance to avoid the worst of this. of course, like you said earlier, we are expecting this storm to make landfall west of us. so morgan city may really be in the thick of it. >> we'll keep an eye on it. natasha, thank you. we will continue to keep you updated. christie, back to you. >> thank you. take good care, you and your crews there. in some other news, it was a tale of two facilities, one air conditioned with children watching movies, eating snacks. the others with hundreds of migrant men, look at this, crowded into a sweltering area, reportedly without showers for 40 days. vice president mike pence toured both of these, then sat down with cnn to answer questions about the alarming conditions. i didn't have to shout out for help. i didn't have to get you a lift. and i didn't have to call your wife to meet you at the doctor. because you didn't have another dvt. not today.
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i don't know if you've seen this yet, but a disturbing scene at a migrant detention holding area that mike pence toured, packed with hundreds of men, some who say they have been there for 40 days without access to showers or toothbrushes. >> reporters on the tour, this is mcallen, by the way, said the stench was nearly overwhelming, especially in the stifling hot room. pamela brown sat down with vice president mike pence after this tour and asked him about the conditions that the migrants are being held in. here's what he said -- >> reporter: we went to two different facilities. there seemed to be a big difference between the first one where families were housed and the one where there are single adult migrants. when i went in there, one of them said to me, i'm talking about the second facility, this isn't human, the way we're
treated. it was -- there was a horrible smell. i'm sure you smelled it. you were in there, as well. they were sleeping on concrete because there's not enough room for cots, we're told. it was hot, some of them claim they were hungry. is that acceptable to you? >> no, it's not. it's the reason why we demanded that congress provide $4.6 billion in additional support. to customs and border protection. look, the last six months, democrats in congress have been saying this is a manufactured crisis. but as you saw firsthand today, here at the mcallen station where ourselves are overflowing and now that temporary facility that you just saw had to be established. and then the first facility that we saw where nearly 1,000 families with children are being detained, ought to be a very clear message to every american that the time for action is now, and the time for congress to act to end the flow of families that
are coming north from central america to our border is now. >> should there be a different level of care for the families versus the adult migrants, single adult migrants? >> i think it's all the same standard of care -- >> reporter: what we saw today was very different for the families versus these single adult migrants it wasn't the same level of care. >> well, what you saw today was a -- was a very clean facility where people were being detained indoors, and then you saw a temporary facility that was constructed because this -- this facility is overcrowded. and we can't keep people in a cell beyond what the rules and regulations allow for. but everyone even in that temporary facility, pamela, is getting three meals a day, they're getting health care, they're getting hygiene. and the customs and border protection is doing their level best in an overcrowded environment and a difficult environment to address this issue. but congress has got to act to make it possible for us to
reduce the numbers of people coming into our country illegally. and that's going to require us to change the loopholes, reform our asylum laws, and my hope is today -- >> let's talk did b -- >> i hope two things today. i hope first and noefrt thforem we put to bed the lie about customs and enforcement. people saying families and children are being held in concentration camps is an outrage. the nazis killed people. our customs and border protection, as you heard today, are saving lives every day. and you saw the profound, compassionate care for those families and children in the detention facility today. the other thing is, i hope we also move past this rhetoric about a manufactured crisis. i mean, the president wanted me to come down here today to look in on how families are being treated, but also to -- to be able to show the american people
that this system is overwhelmed, it's overcrowded, and congress head got to step up to end this crisis of illegal immigration at our southern border. >> reporter: the first facility with the families, was that really a fair representation of how most of the migrant families have been treated under cbp care? >> you are at the epicenter here in the rio grande valley of the illegal immigration. 60% coming across the southern border are coming through this sector. i think what we saw was a very fair representation of how families are being treated. >> reporter: this facility was just built and made to handle the overcrowding. >> americans are troubled by what -- by what they've read in the newspapers about families not being cared for -- >> reporter: and picture like this. when you look at that, what do you see? >> well, i can't account for that. what i can account for is that -- >> reporter: you're the vice
president. how do you not account for this? >> it's a facility that you saw today represents the level and the standard of care that we are working to bring to all those caught up in this crisis. remember, it was just a few short weeks ago that congress finally acknowledged the crisis and gave us an additional $4.6 billion in humanitarian aid. now we're going to continue to improve, we're going to continue to provide care at the standard the american people expect. but pamela, remember, for the last six months, democrats in congress said it was a manufactured crisis. and -- and it was all we could do to finally get the democrats in congress to agree to give us additional funding to deal with this crisis. so we'll continue to provide the level of care the american people expect, and we'll do it with compassion and with generosity, but ultimately we have got to demand that congress
take the next step, reform these asylum laws, close the loopholes, and end this unprecedented migration. >> reporter: the dhs i.g., said this administration's watch, democrats are not in the white house, where does the buck stop? >> we've read those reports, and i know that they're being -- >> reporter: government's reports. >> they are being investigated. there were also lawyers who were here who presented what ultimately became unsubstantiated allegations. but make no mistake about it, any allegation of people not receiving a -- the standard of care that the american people anticipate is thoroughly investigated. the recent allegations of abuse are being thoroughly investigated. but what you saw today, i hope is an encouragement to millions of americans that -- that even before congress funded a
temporary facility, we built that temporary facility to house families who are caught up in this crisis of illegal immigration. and you saw not just three meals a day, children with snacks, there were diapers, there were hygiene products, changing tables, children sitting in a comfortable, air-conditioned environment watching television. this is how the american people expect us to treat people who are caught up in this crisis. and we're going to continue to work to make that a reality. >> we'll have more of that interview for you later. meanwhile, back to our top story here. tropical storm barry, now just off the gulf coast. erica hill in lafayette, louisiana, for us. erica? >> reporter: christi, we are just starting to feel little drops of rain here. as the meteorologist in charge for the national weather center in new orleans said, this is a
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hour. it's inching toward the louisiana coast, and there's still the possibility that it could become a hurricane before it makes landfall. that is happening sometime in the next few hours. >> barry expected to bring damaging winds, tornadoes, and large hail. but the real concern is heavy rain, possibly more than a foot in some areas. and that, of course, could cause dangerous flooding, not just in louisiana but also in mississippi and alabama and beyond. let's go back to erica hill, she's in lafayette, louisiana, for us this morning. erica? >> reporter: yeah, good morning again. and as you point out, it's the size of this, it's how long the rain could last and just how far inland it could go. and then once all that rain comes down, it could flow back down the mississippi which is already swollen ads we know, leading to flooding. we want to call on one of the experts, benjamin schott, the meteorologist in charge for the national weather service in new orleans. ben, we appreciate you taking the time this morning. you just tweeted this is a very slow-moving storm, slow with at
least six zeros i think you put in that. you know, maybe getting people a chuckle. but you were serious about the impact of what that means. why is the fact that this is a slow-moving storm such a concern? >> the big concern is is it's going to take a very long time for it move across the state of louisiana. with that intense tropical rainfall over a 24-hour period, it will easily allow the one foot or more that we've been forecasting for a number of days now. >> reporter: and as you're watching this, what are some of the areas at this hour that are most concerning to you? >> well, the number-one thing now is that we're still waiting for this to make landfall. there's a lot of impatience of where is barry, where is barry. and so it's coming. and the heavy rainfall will be there. and so folks can't let their guard down.
they have to understand that as this moves to, the rainfall rates are going to be extremely high, flooding is going to occur with flash flooding quickly. it's going to put people at risk all across, you know, southeastern louisiana, into portions of the central portion of the state. by the time we get to midday, the rivers will respond. and we'll have some places that will see, you know, major, record flooding i believe by the time we're all finished with this sunday into monday. >> sunday into monday, by the time we're finished with that portion of it. and we've been talking about this this morning that it's the south side of the storm that has some of the heaviest rain coming with it. >> reporter: >> yeah. that's what's been kind of, i think, gotten people to think that where's barry. you know, this is kind of a little bit unusual. a lot of times you see more of the activity centered on the east side and wrapping around to the north. in this case, a lot of it's been
held offshore with the very slow movement. and so as it comes on shore over the course of the next 6 to 12 hours, obviously we'll have the wind issue close to the center of the circulation, power outages, coastal flooding will continue, as well. as you get all the water piling up on the coast and lake pontchartrain and other places. but the rainfall is the number hi -one threat, and the -- number-one threat, and the flooding will last a number of days that almost all of the citizens laugh louisiana, espec baton rouge, we'll be fighting a flood fight for the next few days. >> you know, having covered a number of these, obviously you're based in new orleans. when you talk to people, they will harken back to certain storms and how they weathered it, what happened, that really influences the decision that they make for whatever storm it is. today we're, of course, talking about barry. and yet each storm is different.
just remind our viewers why it's important to look at this as a new event and not necessarily think so much about what happened in the last storm that somebody may have decided to ride out in their home. >> yeah, people tend to lock on to something they've experienced in the past. each of these systems are its own animal. they each have their own individual threats that could threaten life. in this case, it's going to be the water, it's going to be the rainfall. sometimes people get so focused in on whether it a tropical storm or whether it's a hurricane, and the main threat may be the water. and that's been proven time and time again. over 75% of deaths occur from the water. a lot of it the fresh water, the rain, and the river flooding afterwards. you look at the events of harvey and florence, and you see that this pattern when you have slow-moving tropical systems come in, and they drop intense amounts of rainfall in short timeframes. it's the water. that is what catches people offguard because a lot of times,
again, they focus so in on the wind and the category, whether it a category one or whether it's a tropical storm. so the biggest takeaway is people to understand that the rain is just now starting. it's all going come down in the next 24 to 36 hours depending on how slow barry moves, and it's going to be the water that's the issue. >> ben schott, appreciate you taking the time. appreciate all the work you and your team are doing at the national weather service in new orleans. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> reporter: as we heard, the rain's just starting. it is start to intensify a little bit here. this is the outer part of it. we'll continue to keep you updated from here in lafayette and across the region as we continue our coverage this morning. back to you. >> all right. thank you so much. be careful there. new video coming in to cnn in the last few minutes from hong kong. take a look at this. police have been using pepper spray on protesters in a clash
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take a look at this. this happened just a short time ago. a violent clash between protesters and hong kong police as another round of demonstrations sweep across the chinese territory. this slow was taken as protesters neared hong kong's border with mainland china. you see police have been using pepper spray on the demonstrators. >> the protests began last month over a controversial bill that
would have allowed hong kong citizens to be extradited to mainland china to face chile. hong kong's chief executive, carrie lam, said the bill's dead. protesters are concerned it could be brought back up for consideration. we'll keep you posted on what's happening there this morning. also, federal prosecutors say jeffrey epstein, the multimillionaire charged with sex trafficking, paid $350,000 to two people who could potentially testify against him in a trial. >> the hedge fund manager is accused of operating a sex trafficking ring involving underage girls between 2002 and 2005. this week, epstein pleaded not guilty to the charges. according to court documents, he began making payments in november of last year after the "miami herald" published an article on him and the 2008 non-prosecution agreement he reached in florida. both the individuals were named as possible co-conspirators in the non-prosecution agreement.
meanwhile, president trump is considering removing dan coates as director of national intelligence. >> the president has expressed frustration with coates in the past and has publicly considered replacing him. in february during a congressional hearing, coates publicly contradicted the president's optimistic forecast about the chances north korea would agree to give up its nuclear weapons. coates has dismissed the reports and the rumors calling them frustrateding. so lawmakers are getting more time to question robert mueller after agreeing to delay the former special counsel's public testimony. >> mueller was scheduled to appear in back-to-back meetings in front of the committees july 17th. some lawmakers complained about the limited time of testimony which would have shut out half the panel from asking questions of mueller. both sessions are now scheduled for wednesday, july 24. all right. ♪
>> want to get back to just one of the stories, the big stories we're watching this morning. good morning to you, so grateful coffto have you here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. tropical storm barry could be a hurricane by the time it makes landfall in the next few hours. the rain is already there ahead of the storm. over a foot is possible in some areas with winds holding at 65 miles per hour, and storm surge rising as high as six feet. some highways were already swamped, and nearly 50,000 customers, that's a new number, have already lost power. >> louisiana obviously preparing, they're closing all of their floodgates as the mayor of new orleans calls for voluntary evacuations, federal emergency preparedness officials warning of possible tornadoes as the storm passes. and mississippi's governor has joined louisiana's in declaring a state of emergency. want to begin our live coverage on the gulf coast. we've got people all over the place there. cnn anchor and national
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