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do things go from here after robert mueller's testimony. republicans and president trump are declaring victory and calling on congress to move on. but house democrats are trying to figure out where to go from here. cnn has learned that some are pressing the parties' leadership on impeachment because they fear time is running out. but speaker pelosi is giving no indication she's in any rush for that. cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill. what are you hearing from speaker pelosi and lawmakers this morning? >> reporter: well, democrats are making it very clear that a number of them say that yesterday's testimony in their view bolsters their calls for an impeachment inquiry. while there are still a minority of democrats who have publicly called for an impeachment probe, there would be a lot more if nancy pelosi, the house speaker, were to get behind an impeachment push. at the moment, she is not. she still believes the current course of action is the right one to go through the courts. although she is signaling behind closed doors and publicly a message that may be a bit
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different than before saying that they want to try to get the information out of the court to see whether or not any impeachment probe is warranted. she seems to be going away from her previous concerns that republicans who control the senate will ultimately kill any impeachment push: now at a meeting this morning, nancy pelosi told her members that if they needed to support impeachment inquiry they could. she told me the same thing on her way into the meeting. but a number of members made clear that time is running out. >> is the speaker wrong in her approach here? >> well, i want to encourage her to expedite this matter more than has been done in the past. >> what's the risk of not moving forward now? >> the risk is that we have abandoned our responsibility. the risk is ours. >> you have not supported an impeachment inquiry before, right? did yesterday change you in any way? >> no.
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i think it was an important step forward but it didn't change me. my basic point is that we have multiple committees doing various aspects of oversight and investigation and i think that we need to get further down the line. and i also think that all of our leaders need to be on the same page. >> this is all an agenda that has to happen in 2019 if it's going to happen. so the clock is ticking. >> yesterday at a democratic caucus meeting the house judiciary committee commission jerry nadler floated the idea of having the six committees that are investigating the president to essentially draft articles of impeachment. this is something he just floated, i'm told, at this caucus meeting. but thaet not the route the speaker wants to go down yet. he also was asked about whether or not they could move forward with an impeachment probe without a vote from the house and his belief was that they certainly could. so there is a lot of discussion behind the scenes. but at the moment the focus for the leadership is on fighting this out in courts, enforcing
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their subpoenas and then deciding to do what's next. pamela. >> all right, manu, thank you very much for that. joining me now to discuss all of this cnn political analyst and white house reporter for politico and a former federal prosecutor and former associate independent counsel in the white water investigation. she's also the author of "how to read the constitution and why" and cnn political correspondent. so on the heels of this testimony yesterday from robert mueller, it is clear that that did not galvanize the democrats on impeachment. so where do democrats go from here? as manu laid out, there are several different options it seems like they're looking at. >> yeah, i don't think yesterday will fundamentally change the debate in any way. democrats really need an explosive new piece of information to move members who have been resisting impeachment over to their side. the democrats who favored impeachment. and they didn't get that from
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robert mueller, so i think we're going to see more of the same. an internal democratic debate about how to handle this. but as manu suggested in his reporting, this debate will play out as we move closer and closer to the 2020 election. already we're just over a year away, and i think there will be increasing concern, particularly for leadership, about the optics of increasing pressure on an impeachment inquiry as we approach the time when voters have an opportunity to cast ballots in november 2020. >> yesterday's hearing raises the question of whether having mueller testified was a tactical error. he was not the star witness i think democrats had hoped he would be. some democrats. was it an error? do you think there's any regret today that they had him? >> i do think there's probably some regret among democrats in that mueller was the presence who cast a long shadow over the trump presidency up until now. in his press conference in late
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may he made a statement nudging the house toward an impeachment inquiry. i would say yesterday he took a few steps back from that and mueller and democrats would have been wise to let that may statement be his last word. i would guess a majority of democrats today agree with that view. >> what do you think, kim, in terms of pelosi's strategy to let this play out in the courts? that could be a while, right? >> it's a non-strategy frankly. if it were to play out in the courts, we would have seen an indictment from mr. mueller. but because of the internal doj guidelines banning that, that's why it's gone to the political process. and she certainly could be calling other witnesses. she could be doing other things regardless of those particular subpoenas to keep this moving forward. and the information has been out. the report has been out. we've heard from michael cohen. i think actually mr. mueller confirmed some things, some misleading statements that have come out of not only mr. trump's mouth but the justice department with respect to collusion and
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obstruction. he was very clear that was not the case. there was evidence of conspiracy. but at this point i think it's going to have to play out in 2020 at the polls. because as he indicated, if he does not get a second material then he could be indicted as a private citizen. there's a five-year general statute of limitations. if he does get a second term, this man and the office of the presidency becomes above the law. >> and there's a strategy now to file lawsuits for don mcgahn to testify, because as we know he's been resisting that. so was that a smart move in your view, to start with him? because i would imagine there are easier witnesses to win a court battle over than don mcgahn, the former white house counsel. >> as i indicated, it seems that it would make sense to move on multiple front. mcgahn is a star witness and when it comes to obstruction of justice, he was the person that was supposed to fire robert mueller at mr. trump's direction sochlt that's a critical
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question. and unlike yesterday when we heard from someone summarizing the report, this would be direct testimony based on his own experience. but that's not a reason not to call other witnesses. some of them are going to comply and aren't going to fight this way. and it's unfortunate that we're seeing it sort of lob along this way. >> sarah, as we look ahead one of the biggest headlines that came out of the hearing yesterday was mueller's warning about russia's interference in the next election. saying it's happening as we speak. here's one exchange from yesterday. >> do you find evidence to suggest they'll try to do this thing? >> it wasn't one single attempt. they're doing it as we sit here and they expect to do it during the next campaign. >> so what did you make of that? >> i think this is one of the areas where mueller was most forceful and felt most confident ringing the alarm bell. it's very clear he came away from this investigation believing that there will be
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hostile foreign powers that try to interfere with our elections and campaigns. and essentially campaigns did not get the message from this investigation that they should report those interactions to authorities. and it's all the more telling that we have not seen a responses on capitol hill to these kinds of calls. we've seen some bills but they haven't really gone anywhere. and the republican party historic clee has been the party of national security and they have not lived up to that historical presence. >> yesterday they blocked election security bills. >> it's really remarkable. what we learned is there is more we can do to make sure that hoft ill foreign powers are interfering in our elections and we have not taken the steps we need to take. >> representative herd brought it up and this is separate from the president. this is not about donald trump himself. it's about the integrity of our democracy. the idea being if we allow the structure to fall apart,
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regardless of who is in the white house, for our children and grandchildren, that could actually be corrupted. the concept of democracy is at stake right now. not just the fate of this particular man. >> mueller said outright that it's the biggest challenge, one of the biggest challenges to democracy he's ever seen. we cover the white house. you're not hearing through that sense of urgen see from the president. if anything, he calls the whole russia probe a hoax. when really the foundation of it was to look into this matter. >> that's right. first, i think robert mueller was so comfortable talking about this because it is a bipartisan issue. he has really resisted being cast as a partisan actor in any way. but election security is not a partisan issue. it's one of the major failings of the trump presidency that they haven't pressed harder to pass laws to address or to remedy what happened in 2016. but it does show you how complete trump's control of the republican party is that you haven't seen calls for this because they know that they will
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anger the president who cease any attempt to address russian meddling as republicans attacking the legitimacy of his presidency. >> that is the heart of it. it's a personal thing for trump because it all goes to the legitimacy of his win. >> also he stands to benefit from ongoing assistance from the russians. >> mueller said that the russians were trying to help him win. >> and that's what he wants. >> there's a lot more to discuss on that front. thank you so much, ladies, for coming on. this just in, documents exclusively seen by cnn show that runs of red flags were raised internally about how the trump administration was separating families at the u.s./mexico border. according to those documents, some red flags were raised months before the administration announced its zero tolerance policy. cnn's diane gallagher joins us now. what are the details? >> look, these were government officials raising those red flags about the family
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separations to other departments, talking about the fact that they were seeing this uptick. they were filing these referrals at the time about these family separations, dating back long before the policy was announced in april of 2018. they referred these to the civil rights and civil liberties office and in some of these cases, the people who worked for the office of refugee resettlement were filing abuse referrals because that is what the training indicated that they needed to do. some of the details in these documents, excellent reporting by my colleague priscilla alvarez, talk about allegations of children saying they were blindsided once they were in custody. a 14-year-old boy saying that he was taken out for a meal and when he returned an officer told him that his father was just going to be deported. an 11-year-old who said that he was called aside by an officer and then just never saw his father again. now, look, it's important to
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note that these referrals don't talk about how any of this or whether any of these situations were resolved. but what this does give us, pamela, is this rare glimpse in how one arm of the government, the hhsorr, was trying to communicate with another, the department of homeland security, at a time that this confusing separation was going on. and of course there was thousands of children who were separated from their families at the southern borded during this period of time. we're looking at at least 850 referrals that were sent to the office of civil rights and liberties just before june of 2018 and june of 2018. >> diane gallagher with those exclusive documents. thank you so much. and coming up former vice president joe biden changing up his strategy from mice guy to tough guy. why he says he won't be shy when
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hosting a welcome ceremony and full honors review for the new secret of defense, mark esper. today is his first full day on the job. president trump and vice president pence will be there and they're set to deliver remarks. the ceremony will also include a 21-gun salute. >> meantime, let's turn to the race of 2020. the gloves are off. former vice president joe biden coming out with new attack lines against senators cory booker and kamala harris. the two democratic rivals who will stand next to him during next week's anticipated debate stage here on cnn. listen to booker and biden slamming each other's criminal justice records. >> and now he's unrolled -- unveiled his crime bill for a guy who helped to be an architect of mass incarceration,
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this is an inadequate solution to what is a raging crisis in our country. >> if you look at the mayor's record in newark, one of the provisions i put in the crime bill, his police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly african-american men. the justice department took action against them and held the police department accountable. >> this morning the two democratic rivals are among other 2020 candidates at the national urban league conference. cnn political reporter ar lelet saens joins us and also the host of the podcast you decide. let's start with you. you're hearing from biden's campaign officials. what are they telling you? >> pam, joe biden's advisers are telling me that this more assertive approach is being driven by the candidate himself. that he does not want to take a
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tax on his record sitting down and that he's going to be pushing back going forward. and over the past few weeks you've really seen biden sharpen his attacks on kamala harris when it comes to health care and over the past two days on corey brooker when it comes to his record in newark. and i want you to take a listen to something that biden had to say yesterday. he didn't name kamala harris by name, but he addressed the fact of candidates who say that they will not raise taxes under medicare for all. take a listen to what he had to say yesterday. >> you've got to find $30 to $40 trillion somewhere, and how are you going to do it? i find people talk about medicare for all but they're not going to tax the middle class. come on, what is this? is this a fant taes world here? >> health care is one of those issues where biden has been trying to draw contrast between himself and other candidates. one adviser i spoke with said that biden does feel that maybe
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he was a little too polite in the last debate. he followed the ground rules that were set while other candidates did not. and last night at a fundraiser biden was under by an attendee to be tougher in this upcoming debate and he said he's not going to be as polite this time around. >> we'll have to see. here's what biden told reporters yesterday. >> if he wants to go back and talk about records, i'm happy to do that. but i would rather talk about the future. >> so what do you think? is being a counter puncher a winning strategy for joe biden? >> it's a way to avoid having a losing strategy. the reality is he's well within his rights to point out that he and former mayor booker were on the opposite sides of a very contentious period when it came to policing in newark. before that consent decree was signed with the obama administration, they found that 75% of the stops by newark police were not justifed.
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and that happened on the watch of mayor cory booker. so he's got some explaining to do. these are issue debates and discussions of the records of the various candidates that the voters need to hear. and so joe biden owes that to the public. it's not simply a matter of advancing his own political goals. >> let's talk about the brand new pole. it shows that biden is the only democratic candidate beating trump in a hypothetical ohio matchup. the other candidates are in a dead heat with the president. so arlette, we see these numbers what do they say? >> they point to biden's main argument that he can defeat president trump. seeing these numbers in these head-to-head matchups where biden is leading is something that they like to see out there. especially right now as you have other candidates who are trying to challenge that electability argument. cory booker was here at the national urban league just a few hours ago and he was challenging
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the notion of electability, saying that too often the conversation leaves out black voters which are a critical party of the democratic party's base. but then the biden campaign pushed back a little bit on that, too, saying that they agree and then pointing to polling numbers where biden is leading among african-american voters. so right now the biden camp is real trying to highlight those numbers where he is leading president trump, especially in a battleground state like ohio. but of course he still has to get through the democratic primary before he can face off against the president. >> one big caveat that i would add is if you look at polling numbers, that also asks how solid are you with your preferred candidate, whether it's harris or biden or anybody else. it's really very a fluid race. something like 62% of democratic voters are telling pollsters they're ready to consider somebody else. so joe biden can point to that number, but i don't know if he can sleep well at night just yet. >> and that's the question. these numbers are favorable to
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joe biden, but we're still a ways out from the 2020 election. i mean, the question is how long can the biden camp keep up this momentum and keep up these numbers, right? >> that's right. and look, there's the affiliated question of whether or not ohio is essential. the number of swing states, it kind of changes from cycle to cycle. missouri was once considered a swing state and not so much anymore. florida is always a swing state. but think about colorado, think about even you see numbers in arizona and georgia that give some hope and some reason to think by candidates of both parties that they might be able to maybe get away from ohio as an essential part of their winning strategy. >> thank you so much. and don't miss two big nights of democratic debates next tuesday and wednesday live from detroit only on cnn. and coming up next, democratic congressman jim hines joining me
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a hostile foreign was trying to influence an election, has no duty to report it to the authorities? >> i hope this is not the new normal, but i fear it is. >> that was special counsel robert mueller warning about the prospects of russian interference in the election. now, joining us is one of the house intelligence committee members who questioned mueller, democratic congressman jim hines. thank you for coming on. >> hi, pamela. >> first off, what is your reaction to hearing robert mueller's warning about russian interference in the upcoming election and that it's interfering as we speak? >> well, not a surprise to me sitting as i do on the intelligence committee where we monitor these things pretty closely. but i was actually glad he made that case. there were obviously a lot of politics involved in what happened yesterday, but one of the things that i hope every american will hear is that the attack that we suffered in 2016
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which may have had an impact on our election is likely to happen again. and there's a lot of learning there. the clip you ran is that any campaign that is approached by a foreign power should not welcome it, should not set up meetings to see what dirt you can get. they should in fact report those contacts to the fbi because it's quite likely to be a deliberate effort. the other thing that is more important and i wish he had spent more time on this, is that the attack was successful because russia manipulated our sentiment. 126 million facebook impressions, twitter ads that were designed to sort of stoke racial issues and other issues in this country. the american people really need to understand that what we see on social media, even if it sort of makes them feel good because it reinforced political opinions that they have, it may be somebody like russia or china or iran trying to manipulate our political process. >> so there's the question of whether yesterday moved the needle at all in terms of raising public awareness about
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these issues surrounding russia, surrounding the president. that was laid out in the mueller report. i want to read to you what your democratic colleague congressman jared huff han tolders. he said the democratic majority has pinned a lot on the mueller report and in retrospect we made some tactical mistakes. do you agree that was not the witness democrats were hoping for? >> i've spent months, pamela, tell people that there were not going to be bombshells or head lines out of the testimony. i know bob mueller and he says what he means and means what he says and there weren't going to be head lines. so anybody who thought that was going to be a major movement that was all of a sudden going to convince the american people that impeachment was the right recourse. that was never going to happen. i do think there was value in having bob mueller talk about the conclusions of the report, particularly again let's set aside whatever you think of
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donald trump which is a profoundly divisive question in this question. particularly having someone of rob mueller's position describing an attack where this unemotional direct man actually does get some emotional is when he's talking about the intensity of the attack and what we need to do to prevent it in the future. >> so the intelligence committee have held the hearing with mueller first and then the hearing on obstruction happen second? i think that was one of the things that people are questioning today. but you are someone who is in favor of impeachment, and as you pointed out, you never thought that mueller would galvanize the democrats, any more democrats toward that effort, but he was a reluctant witness. he clearly didn't want to do that. was pushing mueller to testify the right move by democrats? >> well, just to be clear, i don't favor impeachment per se. impeachment is the end of the
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process of an inquiry of articles of impeachment in the house of representatives. i'm in favor of an impeachment inquiry. and by the way, that's as far as it goes. nobody should believe that there will be an impeachment that leads to the removal of the president. and so the question then is what would be the value of actually an impeachment process, an inquiry? the value is a little bit of what you saw yesterday, which is that opponents of the president would make the case. they would say he's refused to offer his people up for oversight to the american people. he has lied about this. he willingly accepted russian help. the supporters of the president in a very public way would get to present their case and i think that would be a valuable thing for the american people with respect to thinking about a president, who to my way of thinking, is not qualified to be president. i never thought that yesterday was going to have much impact on the way people think about that. it might move the needle a little bit. but there are not a lot of people out there in america who are discovering for the first time that donald trump is a guy who behaves in much worse ways
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than any president we have ever had. that's not news for anybody. >> so what do you think then of the house speaker nancy pelosi's strategy? she made clear yesterday she is not in any rush to open an impeachment inquiry and she wants to let this play out in the courts first. >> look, though i am in favor of an impeachment inquiry, i speak on behalf of my 750,000 constituents in southwestern connecticut. the speaker of the house considers the big national picture and she is thinking about public sentiment. nancy pelosi always talks about public sentiment. she always quotes abraham lincoln on the importance of public sentiment. and i think she senses that for something as big and as awesome and i use that word almost in the biblical sense as impeachment, it's the single most thing next to declaring war that congress can do, that public sentiment probably needs to be in a different place than it is today. and i don't blame her for making that judge: she's thinking about the whole country and how people
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think and ohio and michigan and california. not just how people are thinking in connecticut. >> congressman, thank you for coming on. cnn is getting some new information this hour about sex trafficking suspect jeffrey epstein. he was reported by injured in prison. we're going to have a live report up next. stay with us. ♪ you got this! ♪ woo! ♪ ♪ ♪ what's going on? it's the 3pm slump. should have had a p3. oh yeah. should have had a p3. need energy? get p3. with a mix of meat, cheese and nuts.
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lots of questions today about what happened in the jail cell of accused sex trafficker
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and finance year jeffrey epstein. according to a law enforcement source, he sustained injuries in his cell. he's accused of abusing dozens of young girls in florida and new york. he was denied bail last week as he awaits trial. what have you learned, shimon. >> reporter: he was found in his jail cell, as you said, injured. as a precaution the jail has put him on suicide watch, so they have folks, jail employees that come in and check on him every 30 minutes or so just to make sure he's okay. there's a lot of concern that something much more seriously could have happened to him. he's a big target now certainly at the jail and for federal officials who are continuing to investigate him, there's a lot of concern that something could happen to him. so they're treating this very seriously. and there's different things that we're hearing. he was found in his jail cell injured. there were marks on his neck, so it's possible that this was a suicide attempt. there's also what we're told is they're looking to see if
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someone in the jail, another inmate may have assaulted him. he has claimed that he was assaulted by one of the inmates who was accusing him of being a child predator, saying you're a child predator. and the other thing they're looking at was possibly he did this to himself to try and get moved from the jail. obviously he's very unhappy with being in jail. he tried very hard to get out of jail and go home to his mansion on the upper east side. that didn't happen. so now there's a lot of question as to what's going on t. bureau of prisons says that he's at the jail, he's there, he's not at the hospital. there were some reports that he was transported to the hospital. that doesn't appear to be the case. he was treated there and they're telling us that it wasn't that serious of an injury, so they were able to treat him there at the jail. so we'll see. now they're investigating, trying to figure out exactly what happened. but it does appear, at least for now, that he did this to himself. that's what authorities believe. >> that's the leading theory. okay, shimon.
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attorney general william barr has given the federal government the go ahead to resume capital punishment after nearly two decades. evan perez joins us now. what's behind this decision, evan? >> so jeff sessions, the former attorney general, had ordered the bureau of prisons to essentially find a way to resume federal -- the federal death penalty, which has been on hold. nobody in the federal system has been put to death since 2003. so this is the result of this. the bureau of prisons has now come up with a way. they're going to adopt a protocol, a set of drugs that the states have started using and that's essentially been blessed by the federal courts, at least in the last few years. so we expect that according to the justice department today they have identified five federal inmates that they plan to put to death beginning in
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december. so they have established dates beginning december and january to put these five people to death. >> why these five? >> these people are -- these are five inmates who have exhausted their federal appeals. of course now that they have now been identified to be put to death, now that we have dates for them, we expect that there's going to be new appeals challenging, perhaps, the new protocols that the bureau of prisons is putting into place for them. so we may or may not see these executions in december. we should wait and see what the courts decide. >> and no surprise, there's also the politics side of this. presidential candidates already weighing in. kamala harris i believe just tweeted about it. so what are they saying? >> well, kamala harris and all the others are, of course, very much opposed to the use of this. she says the justice department announced that they would resume capital punishment. let me be clear, capital punishment is immoral and deeply
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flawed. too many innocent people have been put to death. we need a national moratorium on the death penalty, not a resurrection. this is something that the justice department under the obama administration had observed. they had essentially put a stop to all of this while there was challenges over the use of the drugs that were being used to put people to death. so now obviously there's going to be a new fight over this new protocol. >> evan, thank you so much. new video evidence emerging today in the case against rapper asap rocky. details on what he has to say about the upcoming trial and about president trump's support for rocky. we're the slowskys.
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well, this is a case that has the attention of celebrities, politicians, even president trump. and now we are learning rapper a$ap rocky will have to stay in jail in sweden until he stands trial. the 30-year-old whose real name is rakim mayors was arrested and charged with assault. take a look, this is new video obtained by tmz. as you can see, the rapper is seen throwing a man to the ground and kicking and beating him with what prosecutors say was a glass bottle. cnn's melissa bell joins me live from stockholm. so, melissa, you talked to a$ap rocky's lawyer. what did he say about these charges?
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>> reporter: well, as$ap rocky was extremely disappointed. it was the worst possible news. he's been kept in this detention center now for more than three weeks, ever since that assault on june 30th, and it was this morning that he learns that far from being released he was being charged. now, what the prosecutor says, and you're right to show those new images, is that he based his conclusion that a$ap rocky and two members of his entourage had committed a crime not just in those videos so widely shared on the internet but on fresh video evidence and cctv footage and witness statements that the prosecutors say back up the version of events given the other guy involved in the street fight. clearly it was just after the prosecutor announced those findings, that ruling, that a$ap rocky's lawyer contradicted that, saying far from that being the case, he regretted the prosecution went with a version of the events that he said was the same as the victim involved. a$ap rocky continued to say it
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was he who had been attacked and he simply tried to defend himself. we also asked him specifically how a$ap rocky felt about getting the backing of the american president. >> we have put in a lot of time explaining the situation and the swedish laws for our client, so he was not surprise d and disappointed -- i mean he was disappointed last friday when the court in spite of all the evidence and good argumentation let him stay in his cell. >> reporter: new, crucial to the defense when this comes to trial next week will be that question of the bottle. the prosecutors say a$ap rocky and his entourage used to beat the victim. a$ap rocky's lawyer points out that was mentioned in the evidence released today, but no dna evidence was ever found. pamela. >> all right. and that trial begins next week, of course. we'll be watching how all of
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this plays out. melissa bell, thank you. and that you for jonk you for j. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. have a great day. thank you, pam, and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. nancy pelosi says her advice is be for impeachment if that's what helps you back home but she is still in go slow mode. pelosi's advice to her members is talk more about health care. plus the former special counsel did nothing to move republicans. the president and gop leaders say it's time for congressional investigations to end, and republicans in the senate blocked votes on measures designed to protect against future foreign election interference. and the democrats prepare for debates,


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