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we need to have the courage to fight back against that. >> medicare for all is comprehensive. it covers all health care needs for senior citizens. >> we'll come to you in a second. >> i wrote the damn bill. >> this isn't just a choice between the left and the center or thinking we have to sacrifice our values to actually win. >> we are more worried about winning an argument than winning an election. how we win an election is to bring everyone with us. >> i didn't have more of an understanding about what they're going to do. it's going to be a different dynamic. what a night, what a morning. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is a special edition of "new day." it's wednesday, july 31st. it's 6:00 here in detroit. it's a half-time show. >> yes. it's half-time right now. will you be performing a la pink? >> up with people. early super bowl or pink.
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you choose your joke here. the first debate, it was a turbo charged demanding reveal on policy. it showed genuine contrast. elizabeth warren, they were fending off criticisms from the moderates. perhaps trying to survive. warren called for big proposals and at one point slammed delaney for his criticism. >> i don't know why somebody goes to all the trouble of running for the united states to talk about what we can't do and shouldn't fight for. >> that got a lot of applause. elizabeth warren also warned against what she called spineless moderation suggesting that her critics may be too timid to win. when bernie sanders was challenged on the medicare for all proposal, he fired back at tim ryan. >> medicare for all is comprehensi comprehensive. it covers all health care needs for senior citizens. it will finally include dental
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care, heari inin ining aides an eyeglasses. >> you don't know that. >> i do know. i wrote the damn bill. >> all right. we have four of the candidates who were on that debate stage last night coming up on "new day." how do they think they did? ten more candidates will face off tonight including a rematch of joe biden and kamala harris. so we have a lot to talk about. let's bring in our esteemed panel. we have mitch lan due, former mayor of new orleans, now a cnn political commentator. congresswoman debbie dingell, andrew gillum former mayor of tallahassee, and the michigan democratic governor gretchen whitmer. you've all won debates and elected office. i'm sure you watched last night differently than the rest of us. mayor, what did you see?
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>> it was a much better debate than what happened in miami. i think some people got in their licks. and i was pretty pleased with what i heard. i thought everybody had a good moment. >> what about that comment from elizabeth warren? what we did see was a split between the progressives and the pragmatists, if you will. warren said i don't understand why anybody goes through the trouble of running for president just to talk about what we can't do and shouldn't fight for. is that persuasive. >> i thought that was a powerful moment. anyone who's going to be the president of the united states or congresswoman needs to have an optimistic view of what they're going to get done. they need to tell us how they're going to deliver and improve our quality of life on a variety of issues. i think she encapsulated that in that statement. this is about our future. this is about our children and their future. and we need to know we've got leaders who are going to fight for us and get things done.
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>> congresswoman, who did you think stood the out last night. >> i think a number of them had a good moment. i was waiting to see if warren and sanders were going to fight each other. it was clear they banded together to make sure their programs they're fighting for would be strong. ang number of people had good moments last night. and i think it was clear to those that think that the party's going too far to the left that there are people that want to work together. i think one of the messages i would have for what happened is it can't get there without a vision. but you've got to be practical. >> that was part of the debate, wasn't it? with some candidates saying we've got to win. we can't put forward positions that make it less likely we get elected. electability was front and center. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, those are some ideas that might be trouble in a general election. >> i think both for senator warren as well as senator
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sanders, they did an excellent job at defending the flank of the democratic party. i don't know if they made a pack or not. i would tend to believe these are deeply held beliefs and they did an excellent job at demonstrating frankly the grit, the imagination that's going to be required. the line by senator warren really resonated with me not just at that debate stage but beyond. because it was a signal not just to the other candidates why would you pursue this goal by telling us what we're limited? john f. kennedy didn't say the one thing we're not going to do is go to the moon. right? he set big vision, big goals. whether or not that was feasible at the time, he set a high mark. people want aspirational. and i also would add i thought that pete buttigieg also offered in real clear ways the fact that there are some goals out there, some higher marks we ought to be attaining to and let's get rid of this sort of left versus
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right and cast a bigger vision for the country. >> i thought he made a persuasive statement last night. let's watch that moment for a second. >> it is time to stop worrying about what the republicans will say. look, if it's true that if we embrace a far left agenda they're going to say we're crazy socialists. if we embrace a conservative agenda, you know what they're going snood say we're a bunch of crazy socialists. so let's go out there with a policy to defend. that's the policy i'm putting forward. >> well said, i think that you would agree. what with did you hear? >> i agree with what the panel is saying. but i want to caution everybody. we're not running for the president of the democratic party. we're running for the president of the united states. you have to put yourself in a position to win and you have to put yourself in a position to
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govern. i think you saw a lot of the candidates kind of trying to thread that needle last night, be inspirational but practical as well. i don't think that debate has been fully formed yet. and i think you'll see a little bit more of that tonight. >> are you saying you saw too much pie in the sky last night? >> not necessarily. i think they're important. you have to set a vision but you also have to win so you can govern. the next president of the united states is going to deal with a congress that's split. you have to be able to get things done because that's what the public is going to want. that's where real life is. >> i get where the mayor's coming from. we've both been mayors and i recognize this conversation around what's possible and reality and pragmatic gets us. but at this moment, running for the highest position in all the land, not just the united states but the world, we do need to reclaim, i think, our higher positions as a country with a president who's willing to speak
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boldly and courageously. and of course this is an election. there will come a point where we start to dial that thing back into what we actually might be able to accomplish. but i just love the fact that you had people who are willing to talk about big things. just because this big thing doesn't mean it can't happen, it just means it hadn't happened yet. >> what i love -- >> sorry? >> there were a lot of big moments last night. >> it was a long, serious, deep discussion about policy. that discussion on health care, that went on for, like, 35 minutes and there were differences. there were real kimpdifferences. let's listen to a bit of is that. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren were defending their medicare for all. >> we can create a universal health care system to give everyone basic health care for free and i have a proposal to do it. but we don't have to go around and be the party of subtraction
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and tell the country with prieft insurance that their insurance is illegal. > we are the democrats. we are not about trying to take health care away from anyone. that's what the republicans are trying to do. >> there is a contrast here, though. yes, the democrats have a much different position at large than the position in the white house, but there was a split on that stage where you had sanders and warren who will do away with private insurance, they say, to achieve medicare for all. and you have others who don't want that. you're among those who thinks it is the wrong position. >> what i think is that we need to stay focused on expanding access to affordable health care. and it scares people when we talk about how we're going to do it overnight. we all know this is a complicated sweeping change we need to make as a country. but we have to be serious about how we get it done. i think sometimes we lose voters' confidence that we're the capable party of doing this when we, you know, have this kind of superficial
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conversation. that's why i was so glad so much time was spent on health care last night where people could really see everyone on that stage is going to be focused. they might have ideas how to do it. but it's different than what we have in washington, d.c. where we have a president who wants to get rid ofr coverage for pre-existing conditions. >> do you think the others were making the case that what warren and sanders are trying to do is too much too fast? do you think they made their argument on that stage? >> i think they did. and i think it was a healthy debate. i don't know that anyone's saying they're trying to do too much too fast, but there are smart ways about going about this and there are different real thoughtful ideas about how we do that. and that's a good, healthy thing. we're all focused on the same goal. we have different ways of getting there. but what sets us apart from the person in the white house right now is that we actually want to get people health care and make sure it's affordable and that
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people don't lose it when they're sick and need it the most. >> is there anybody who you think we won't see soon? was there anybody you think didn't distinguish themselves enough last night? >> you know, everybody has different opinions. i sort of want to go back to this health care thing for one minute. because i am cochair of the medicare of all caucus in the house. and i'm working very closely with the governor. and there are some facts that didn't come out. the uaw has endorsed our bill. i have a unique legacy. my father-in-law was the author of social security and was the first person that introduced medicare for all. john dingell introduced universal health care every congress and sat in the chair when medicare got passed. you got to have that vision. the governor and i talk about it. we're good friends. we talk about what the policy approaches are. but you've got to have that vision. and there are different ways to get there. but people think their insurance
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is safe. my auto insurance, i worked for general motors for years, the autos had become health care providers that built cars on the side. if you're a salaried employee inside gm, you're losing your health care now at 65. you don't have it for life. >> you're making a great case. and even a more persuasive one than on stage last night, so where do you think it got lost last night? >> you got to have the vision. by the way, the plan in the house doesn't totally eliminate nurns, but gives everybody basic coverage. remember we are the only industrialized nation in the world that does not offer health care to all of its citizens. and our businesses are competing in a global marketplace where businesses aren't covering that cost and our businesses that
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have in their cost of doing business. this is a competitive issue. >> are you considering running for president? >> no. >> everybody agreed last night that health care was a right, not a privilege. and that's very different from what the republicans say. the president's team is in court right now in the fifth circuit court of appeal in my state trying to get rid of the affordable care act and coverage for pre-existing conditions. you never saw anybody near that last night. >> that's exactly right. and that was a choice. and there will be people who say that's where the discussion should have been opposed to arguing over what some people consider small differences in their plans. let's wait here. let's take a quick break. we have much more to discuss. everyone on the stage has been elected to public office and has been in debates who has a real sense of what worked and didn't work last night. we're also coming up on "new day" going to have four of the ten candidates who took the stage last night. mayor pete buttigieg, beto o'rourke, amy klobuchar, and steve bullock.
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now. for one candidate, it was his first night on the debate stage. montana governor steve bullock seen by some as a more moderate candidate. i want to play you some sound from him, because we're going to discuss if any candidates had a breakout moment. let's listen. >> i think this is part of the discussion that shows how often these debates are detached from people's lives. we got 100,000 people showing up at the border right now. if we decriminalize entry, if we get health care to everyone, we'll have multiples of that. don't take my word. that was president obama's homeland security secretary that said that. the biggest problem right now that we have with immigration, it's donald trump. he's using immigration to not only rip apart families but rip apart this country. >> back with us, u.s. congresswoman debbie dingell, mitch landrieu, andrew gillum, and michigan governor gretchen
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whitmer. we're sitting in your state so i want to go to you. i guess i'm not going to ask you if you agree or disagree with bullock, i'm interested about where he is positioning himself in this race. that is a clearly different position than we see from elizabeth warren or beto o'rourke or others who have talked about decriminalizing entry into the united states. >> one of the great things about having governors on that stage is we've got leaders that know how to get things done. as a governor, you've got to deliver. he's similar to me, a governor with a state with a lot of republicans in it. a state that donald trump won. a state with republican legislature. people don't want governors who just take positions. they need results. and i think that's what we need in our next president more than ever. i'm not endorsing anyone on that stage, i'm just pointing out the
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fact that michiganders like americans everywhere are worried we have anxieties about putting food on the table, anxieties about sending our kids to public schools that aren't equipped to meet their needs, we have a anxieties about putting a glass of water on our table knowing it's clean. these are the things that americans and michiganders wants to hear on the stage. if we could front load the questions toward the end of the debate last night at the beginning of tonight's we would be better served. >> him making his introduction to the national stage and making a brokeout moment, do you think he accomplished what he had to do to get to the next stage? >> i do from the standpoint it was clear to me that bullock determined that by comparison to the others on that stage last night, that he needed to make a real flank toward the moderate middle, and i think he did that
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successfully. so for instance, if his ma mathematics is maybe joe biden falters a bit tonight and it doesn't go so well for him, who is the second choice? could he position himself to be the person who says, voters say oh, well, that might be another reasoned option. i don't know the governor. i was not myself very inspired by what's realistic and practical. those are nice terms when you're governing, but unfortunately before you govern you have to win. and part of winning is you have to capture the imagination, inspire people who likely will have to face a choice whether they're going to work, paying a bill, getting kids off to school on time, and whether to take time off to vote for that person who says this is the practical wail about going for making change. i get it because i've been elected but i've always run. candidates have to call to people's higher angels and lift
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us. i appreciate the conversation. i know where it comes from. if we're trying to win with that 5 million people who didn't vote in 2016 that we need to get back out, not just the wins that switched and went to trump but those who voted for us before and decided to sit this one out. >> congresswoman, i want to ask about marianne williamson. she had moments that got big applause. i think you are part of the don't sleep on marianne williamson caucus. >> i think she had a breakout moment. you're in michigan right now and you've got two tough issues. race and the table top issues that the governor was talking about. she talked about reparations last night in language that a lot of people don't understand it. i've known her. i will admit, i knew her when she was here in michigan and pastor of a church and i went to some of her services. i think that she is a kinder, gentler, touchy feely person.
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i think race is a terrifying discussion for many people. many people are afraid to talk about it because they don't want to be called a racist, they don't understand it. i think president trump plays to the worst in us. i think she talked last night about an issue and put it in simple language that maybe people understood. while i know some of the guys love to -- and i'm not saying anybody here -- make fun of her, i think she makes people feel good. and sometimes people get tired of all the ugliness and hatred and her gentleness sometimes works. >> i want to play what she said about race, said about michigan, and talked about it in ways you just described. listen. >> we have communities particularly communities of color and disadvantaged communities all over this country who are suffering from environmental injustice. what happened in flint would not
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have happened in grosspoint. this is part of the dark underbelly of american society. the entire conversation we're having here tonight. if you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark force of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country, then i'm afraid that the democrats are going to see some very dark days. >> mayor landrieu, if we're talking about breakout moments, she had several. several that made people sit up and take notice of her. >> yeah. she made you pay attention to her last night. you know, racism is a festering wound for this country. to cripple us unless we walk through it. i think she addressed it in a thoughtful, forthright way that translated to a lot of people last night. >> if i could just add on on marianne williamson who i did not know before. she ministered to the country in some ways last night. my barometer almost immediately
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after these things is to talk to my wife who while she's married to someone in politics is like apolitical, tries to stay away from it. her first thing was, marianne williamson, who is that? she wants to know more about this person. i wouldn't describe her as soft, flighty, gentle. i thought she was sharp. i thought she was crisp. i thought she used words that cut through in a narrative that allowed people to see themselves reflected in it. and if she keeps doing that, i wouldn't count her out at all. >> i want to talk about tonight. ten new candidates. tonight will have an incredibly diverse lineup of the candidates. just look at that stage right there to see the different faces. of course joe biden who is the front runner in all the polls, he will be there. mayor, let me ask you this. it's a challenging format. the candidates last night, we saw, they were really forced to dive into the policy at a blistering pace. will he be able to stand up to this pressure? >> well, we'll see. but he needs to show up tonight and he needs to have a good
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debate. i thought last night everybody had a better debate than they had in miami. hopefully we'll see that again tonight. but the vice president has to show up in a big way. people are expecting that. >> this format might work for him. it's an elevator speech, basically. and he petered out last night when he had to give a longer speech. but this might -- what do you think is going to happen tonight? >> i hope he does not call time on himself. finish the thought all the way through. whatever that conclusion is you want us to walk away with, i hope he accomplishes it. ip agree with the mayor. last night you saw folks who shook off a bit of the jitters of miami and last night came prepared. i think this stage will be much more prepared. vice president biden has to know that there are going to be a lot of slings and arrows that come his way. i don't think he's the only one to deal with slings or arrows. tonight is make or break. if you don't make your placement plain, this may be it for you as it relates to this president
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contest. >> thank you very much for being part of our esteemed panel. >> i feel like it was in the classroom. this was fantastic. >> we learned a lot. you can watch tonight's debate live from detroit at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. so iowa voters will be the first in the nation to vote and it's actually pretty soon, right? we talk about the election being far away, it's not that far away. less than six months. which candidates made an impact on them last night? we'll speak to iowa voters next. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call
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to last night's cnn debates. so what did they think of the candidates? cnn's vanessa is live in cedar rapids. what was the reaction? >> reporter: good morning. well, as the candidates felt the pressure to perform on stage, voters here in iowa feel the pressure to get behind a candidate. with many candidates performing well in voters' eyes, it just made their decision a lot more difficult. iowans get a lot of visits from the democratic field. >> we've seen them all from bernie to joe, they've all been here. >> reporter: but voters here at a watch party in cedar rapids were eager to hear more. >> i want to hear about women's rights. i want to hear about race legislati relations. and i want to hear about climate change. >> reporter: beto o'rourke resonated with some here talking tariffs and farmers.
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>> the question was about tariffs and they're a huge mistake. and farmers across iowa and the rest of the country are bearing the brunt of the consequence. >> it hits home with almost anybody. you can ask anybody you work with. yeah, my uncle's a farmer. farming is our state so it's huge. >> reporter: elizabeth warren was a standout in the crowd. >> i feel like warren really did. it felt like no matter where pressure was coming from, where different topics were coming from, she was able to handle it and take it up a few notches from that too. >> reporter: the campaigns sending representatives here, too, making what could be last ditch efforts to connect with voters. >> i think the stakes are much higher. and i think people like delaney although i think he's a very decent man, i think as his own people are saying it's time to step back. and i think a lot of them will step back if they don't knock it out of the ballpark.
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>> reporter: with stakes running high, some candidates lagging in the polls were able to shine. >> i've actually been impressed with some of the things that marianne williamson has been saying. this is my first opportunity to really hear what she's had to say on certain issues. and while there's not a lot of specifics, she's definitely, i think, speaking to the values and the morals of the country. >> even after a nearly three-hour debate, picking a front runner got even harder for some. >> frankly, it's overwhelming. and i think sometimes i'm almost going to the point where i'm thinking, who can i eliminate rather than who can i elect. >> reporter: and as ten more candidates take the stage tonight, voters here in iowa tell me they are paying close attention to that matchup between kamala harris and joe biden to see how that dynamic plays out. and as for us, alisyn, we are heading east to dubuque, iowa, to another watch party this evening where we'll bring you more voter reaction early
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tomorrow morning. alisyn? >> we look forward to that. because we love being able to hear directly from the voters because they often have a different take than the pundits or the elected officials. do you know what time it is here? >> doughnut time? >> doughnut o'clock. some of the enthusiastic fans have just brought us some doughnuts from tim hortons. >> well, you can see canada from here. >> from your house. >> from my hotel. >> things have just looked up. i think you're going to see a marked improvement in our performance. in terms of the candidates' performance, there was a stark divide in the democratic party that was on full display last night. michael smerconish had a prediction at the begin og the debate. did it come true? >> it's a two doughnut prediction. that's what happens in golf nothiand in life.ily. i'm very fortunate i can lean on people, and that for me is what teamwork is all about. you can't do everything yourself.
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so last night we saw the ideological divide within the democratic party. do they want evolution or revolution?
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do you like that one? >> i do. >> joining us now is michael smerconish, host of cnn's "smerconish." great to have you. >> thank you. >> before the debate began, you tweeted this out. my debate prediction, the divide between the progressivism and pragmatism will be plainly evident by the oend they have night. that came true. >> i sat there and looked at the stage and the positions of it. i would have thrown tim ryan in there as well. i thought he distinguished himself as did the others. i think there's a market in the country for the three who are on the right side of the stage. the ones that you just mentioned. but the question is is there a market for them in this incarnation of the democratic party. can you get nominated saying the sort of things that they were saying last night? you can get elected. i don't know that you can get nominated. therein lies the difference. >> michael, and again, i think you often come at this from the center.
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>> i do. that would be my bias. no doubt. >> and this is a democratic primary which may not be from the center. we don't know yet. we honestly don't know what the makeup of the primary voters will be from state to state to state. but if you're looking at bernie sanders, elizabeth warren against those people you brought up, who made their case more strongly last night? if you were scoring the debate on points. >> meaning those in the middle versus those who were on the side of the stage, call me an easy grader. at the end of the night, i go arrows up, down, sideways. nobody got an arrow down last night. there's no curve here in my grading, alisyn. i don't think that anyone made a gaffe. i give marianne williamson a thumb's up last night for her delivery. fing you went in as a bernie or warren partisan, you felt great last night. there was something for everybody. but the divide was obvious. john delaney, i wondered whether he would be given a shot last
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night to show his chops and to try to present this dichotomy. he certainly was given ample opportunity. whether he gets to come back, i'm not sure. i wished bullock had gotten into this thing sooner. i thought the governor offered a lot. >> but you did give him an arrow up. a thumbs up for introducing himself and for making his case. >> absolutely i did. >> and so where does that leave us for tonight? so what are you going to see -- what is your prediction that you're going to tweet out for what you're going to see tonight? >> it's going to take until i'm sitting there feeling the vibe. if i can say this, it's an endurance test. listen. i sat with the audience just a couple of rows from the stage. the audience had to be seated by 6:30 eastern time. the debate begins at 8:00. and so i recognize that an audience member, you're held captive longer than the candidates. it was a hot room. and by the end of the night, all that substance that was offered
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in rapid fire, i'm thinking of joe biden among others tonight. they better be ready to go the distance. and if joe biden at the end of the night is able to thrive in that environment, he will have crashed a threshold. >> it's a high bar, but a big opportunity for him. >> absolutely. but don't underestimate what it takes to be there all night long and firing on all cylinders at the end of the night. >> can i ask you one question about last night? two people not mentioned. joe biden was not mentioned at all. was that surprising to you? >> it was i didn't expect warren and sanders to go after biden. i didn't expect them to go after each other and they didn't. when they walked out on stage last night, the vibe was he gave her a little pat. i also saw big sort of bro grip between hickenlooper and delaney. okay. i took that in. there's not going to be any static from the two of them. so the personal vibe of what
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maybe might not be in camera shot very interesting to clean when they walk out. >> very quickly, do you think the democrats should have spent more time focused on president trump last night? >> no. not necessarily. i think it was an opportunity for them to distinguish themselves on their issues. it was pretty highbrow. it was pretty substantive. and i think the conversation on health care while necessary and i don't mean to minimize the importance, it really was in the weeds. and i wonder how much of that is discernible by the audience watching at home. >> michael smerconish, great to have your -- >> i'm caffeinated. can you tell? unintentionally so. i'm shot out of a cannon today. >> that's why i've been talking about this for weeks. you have to delineate between caffeinated and noncaffeinated. the first that requires labeling of caffeinated coffee. it's a high stakes night for joe biden as we've been discussing with.
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just hours away from the big rematch between former vice president joe biden and senator kamala harris. the latest polls show these two candidates right now in a battle for the african-american vote. let's get the forecast with harry. it's been a big part of joe biden's base. what do you see there? >> right now joe biden is well out ahead in that group. he's getting 50% in average in the national polls. kamala harris is back at 12% and cory booker who obviously has made attacks against biden is back at just 1% right now. but i should say that there's been a lot of shifting within the african-american vote, right? what we stau going into that first debate is biden was basically at the same level he is right now. but then he dropped into the mid-30s while harris came up to the low 20s. it does indicate to me these are
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some shifting allegiances you can see. don't be surprised if booker and harris try toic ta it to biden on the stage tonight. >> things revert to the mean. >> i think that's right. that's something we've seen in general with the general poll numbers. there's going to be a lot of discussion after tonight. but the fact is that these debate bounces oftentimes recede and we have to recognize them in the larger context of the race. it's one thing to get a bounce. it's another thing to be able to sustain that bounce. >> and a question about how much democrats should use the issue of race perhaps in a general election. is the president a racist? there's new numbers there. >> yeah, there are. quinnipiac poll last week, we basically see a majority of americans, a majority of voters believe the president of the united states is racist. that to me a unbelievable. >> in and of itself. >> but else what else is unbelievable, that number is moved from last year. so it doesn't seem to me that
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people basically are in their corner about donald trump. but what's more interesting than the overall numbers, take a look at the numbers broken down by race. what you see is essentially the african-americans overwhelmingly 80% of them believe the president of the united states is racist. among whites and hispanics, i think oftentimes, you know, we group together non-white voters into one block. what we see here is hispanics are looking a lot more like whites when it comes to whether they consider the president racist or not. >> i did a panel with michigan voters and there was a voter there who made no bones about calling the president racist. she likened him to george wallace. we've heard this anl yes before. and you looked at the numbers. >> you know, i was able to type into my computer, go to the roper center and see in fact there was a poll in 1968 that asked whether or not you thought george wallace was racist. what you see here, a higher percentage of voters right now think that donald trump is racist than thought george walla wallace. although the spread is basically
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the same. those comparisons seem kind aqu apt. >> that's stunning to me. in and of itself the idea that a majority of the americans think the president is racist. >> we say oh is the president playing 3d chess, what we see is that, in fact, the president's approval rating has not moved since the end of last month. it's 43%. it's not like he's able to use thees these attacks and grab more voters. overwhelmingly a majority do not like him. we're in detroit and you know i'm a huge football fan. detroit lions haven't won a championship since 195 7. >> congratulations. >> thanks, harry. four of the democrats on the
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stage last night are up early and they are joining us this morning. in just minutes we're going to speak to pete buttigieg about his big moments and whether he thinks he got his message across. he is walking up the stairs. >> stair master.
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okay. welcome back, everybody. we are very pleased to be joined by the presidential candidate and south bend mayor pete buttigieg. but before we get to policy, we have a treat for you. these were our late night laughs. watch this. >> on the subject of health care, john delaney tried to speak to his experience on the trail. >> i've been going around rural america and i asked rural hospital administrators one question -- >> do you know who i am? >> this was some lineup. it was more pileup than lineup. there were more characters than on the show "this is us" in this
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debate. and there they are. meet the new management team at kinkos. >> after delaney and others accused bernie and warren of trying to make private health insurance illegal, warren stepped in to stop the bickering. >> let's be clear about this. we are the democrats. we are not about trying to take away health care from anyone. that's what the republicans are trying to do. and we should stop using republican talking points in order to talk with each other about how to best provide that health care. >> elizabeth warren will turn this car around right now and nobody's going to disneyland! >> all right. mayor buttigieg, was that funny, yes or no? >> nobody went to disneyland. >> they didn't really make fun of you. >> no, i was going to say, should i feel bad that i didn't make the late night show or is it a good sign? >> i think you're just fine. >> less absurd you are, hopefully less you make it on.
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>> mayor, stand by. mayor buttigieg and three other candidates join us live. "new day" continues right now. there's time to stop worrying about what the republicans will say. let's just stand up for the right policy, go out there and defend it. >> democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. >> we need to have a campaign of energy, excitement, and vision. >> warren and sanders decided not to go after each other. it's not going to last. >> we are not trying to take away health care from anyone. that's what the republicans are trying to do. >> she was chewing up and spitting people out. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." john and i are live in detroit where we're getting ready for the second cnn democratic debate. it's half-time as you point out. and on night one, it was progressives versus moderates and there was no lack of e


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