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mayor buttigieg and three other candidates join us live. "new day" continues right now. there's time to stop worrying about what the republicans will say. let's just stand up for the right policy, go out there and defend it. >> democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. >> we need to have a campaign of energy, excitement, and vision. >> warren and sanders decided not to go after each other. it's not going to last. >> we are not trying to take away health care from anyone. that's what the republicans are trying to do. >> she was chewing up and spitting people out. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." john and i are live in detroit where we're getting ready for the second cnn democratic debate. it's half-time as you point out. and on night one, it was progressives versus moderates and there was no lack of energy on the stage last night.
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the candidates offered distinct approaches for america while wrestling with how to defeat president trump. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders were challenged by some of the moderates on their medicare for all plan and whether it is best for all. >> all in all, the debate was chock-full of policy, chock-full of substance and an interesting discussion, i think, on so many of the important issues. some of the candidates who were on that stage, they won't make it to the next debate. so it was really make or break for them. we will speak to south bend mayor pete buttigieg in just a few moments. so what does last night mean for tonight's face-off when we see a rematch of joe biden and senator kamala harris? will the candidates be able to keep up with the blistering pace we saw last night? let's go to the debate stage. sort of the field itself. cnn's athena jones on the 50 yard line with the highlights of the debate last night. athena? >> reporter: good morning, john.
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last night we saw the most progressive candidates elizabeth warren and bernie sanders fending off attacks on their policy from the more moderate candidates while avoiding clashing with each other. the ideological divides within the democratic party on full display last night. >> folks seem more concerned about scoring points or outdoing each other with wish list economics. >> you're going to hear a lot of promises up here. >> we can go down the road that senator sanders and senator warren want to take us with bad policies like medicare for all, free everything, and impossible promises that will turn off independent voters and get trump re-elected. >> what do you say to congressman delaney? >> you're wrong. >> reporter: the moderates clashing with bernie sanders and elizabeth warren questioning their electable with their progressive agendas and slamming their key domestic proposal medicare for all. >> i'm saying the policies of
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this notion that you're going to take private insurance away from 180 million americans who many of them don't want to give it. many of them do want to get rid of it, but some don't. that is a disaster at the ballot box. you may as well fedex the election to donald trump. >> the truth is every cell poll i've seen has me beating donald trump. >> reporter: sanders standing by his plan. >> they will be better because medicare for all covers all health care needs nor senior citizens. it would finally include dental care, hearing aides, and eyeglasses. >> you don't know that, bernie. >> i do when i wrote the damn bill. >> reporter: instead of attacking each other, sanders and warren seemed united. >> democrats win when we run on solutions. when we run on things that are workable, not fairy tale economics. >> i don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. >> to win this election and
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defeat trump zth which by the way in my view is not going to be easy, we need to have a campaign of energy and excitement and of vision. i get a little bit tired of democrats afraid of big ideas. republicans are not afraid of big ideas. >> reporter: other candidates like mayor pete buttigieg saying the focus should stay on defeating president trump instead of taking down fellow democrats. >> it is time to stop worrying about what the republicans will say. look, if it's true that if we embrace a far left agenda, they're going to say we're a bunch of crazy socialists. if we embrace a conservative agenda, you know what they're going to do? they're going to say we're a bunch of crazy socialists. so let's just stand up for the right policy, go out there and defend it. >> reporter: warren blasting trump when questioned about white supremacy fueling domestic terrorism. >> call out white supremacy for what it is. domestic terrorism. and it poses a threat to the united states of america.
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we live in a country now where the president is advancing economic racism, criminal justice racism, health care racism. >> reporter: beto o'rourke highlighting his call for a new voting rights act to address systemic racism. >> the legacy of segregation and jim crow and suppression is alive and well in every aspect of the economy and country. >> reporter: political outsider marianne williamson also issuing a warning. >> the entire conversation that we're having here tonight, if you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark force of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country, then i'm afraid that the democrats are going to see only very dark days. >> reporter: now, tonight another ten candidates will be duking it out. front runner joe biden will be at center stage and he'll likely be a huge target for cory booker and kamala harris who will be on either side of him. he said he's going to be more aggressive in fighting back.
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so we'll be watching closely to see not only how well he defends himself, but also whether he's able to make a compelling, affirmative case and be a memorable presence on the stage. >> all right. athena jones, we'll be watching closely tonight. thank you so much. i also have to say, i've never watched a debate wrapup piece with one of the candidates who was in the debate. joining us now is south bend mayor pete buttigieg who's been with us on the set watching that. it was fascinating to see. let me get this out there, you said one of the most difficult things was avoiding bernie sanders' hand? >> they set those podiums up close to each other. i was a little bit in the danger zone there. >> i'm glad you're safe this morning, mayor. listen. you said it's time to stop worrying about what the republicans will say. >> that's right. >> a lot of the coverage this morning has been framing this as a discussion between the progressives and the pragmatists. what will sell in the general election. why does this discussion concern you? >> because for as long as i've
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been alive, i've watched democrats organize ourselves according to what the republicans are doing or what the republicans are saying. i think the time has come for us to organize around what we think is right. look. the republicans are going to do the same thing no matter what. they're going to have the same talking points. they're going to call us socialists. they're going to say we're for open borders. we could copy and paste the republican platform, make it our own, and they would still say that. we need to move on from obsessing over what they're going to say and defend good policies. i think there was a chance to do that last night. it was a substantive debate and we were able to talk about the urgency of the moment we're in. at least that was my focus. i still worry that everybody's focused on where to put everyone's dot on this left to center to right spectrum. forgetting how many voters don't think of the electorate or don't think of the election that way. where i come from, a lot of people voted for donald trump and barack obama. so there's more going on here
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than people just sizing up whether we're too moderate or liberal. >> part of that argument you say we need to figure out how to do what's right on health care. which was a very long, deep discussion last night. you think what's right is very different. i think svery different than wht bernie sanders does. you want to create a public option as part of your plan, but you're not for a medicare for all that would do away with private insurance. so your plan is what you think is right. does that mean what they are proposing is wrong? >> naturally i think my proposal is better because it allows americans to make the decision for themselves. i still think that most americans will prefer the medicare style option. if we get it right, if people like me are right that the corporate options have let us down, then it actually becomes the transition pathway that get i don't say
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s you to medicare for all. everyone has a responsibility to explain how we're supposed to get from point "a" to point "b" without kicking millions of people off of their health care or for that matter kicking millions of americans out of their jobs in the health care industry there. is a transition. and we've got to think about how that ought to work. even as we move to provide universal health care which we can and must do. we're the only country that doesn't have it today. >> one thing last night, it allows me to do more of the horse race and be more superficial. what grade do you give yourself for last night? >> i don't think it's a good idea to grade yourself. i felt like we had a fantastic debate. it was great because i had the chance to lay out the case for my candidacy which is not just about ideology, it's about the us urgency of the moment. scientists tell us we've got less than 12 years before we're at the catastrophe point on climate. the decisions we're making in 2020 are going to set up whether we even make it as a country in 2030, '40, and '50.
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i appreciated the moment to lay out the stakes and talk about why we can't just recycle the same debate we've had the last 20 years. we've got to do something different. >> you had a challenge in the polls with african-american voters. do you think that you were able to move the needle last night? >> i'm glad there was a chance to talk about the douglas plan. because when we have the chance to lay that out in front of voters, we're getting a great response. this is about a comprehensive answer to systemic racism in this country. it's everything from making sure that the criminal justice reform -- criminal justice system serves up justice to setting up to 25% as a goal for federal government contracting minority owned businesses. taerg down barriers to minority entrepreneurs. looking at housing. a black patient is less likely to get their talk of pain acknowledged than a white
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patient right now. whenever we get the chance to talk about this bold vision, the most comprehensive vision talking about systemic racism, we get a fantastic response. my obligation, my responsibility is to go out there, explain it, and sell it. whenever we get the chance to do it, we find it helps us grow and build our support among african-american voters. also this shouldn't just be a specialty thing for black voters. white america needs to have a conversation about systemic racism right now. because it's dragging this entire country down. >> you talked about race and you're talking about racism. and you last night as you've been saying suggest there's naked racism inside the white house. i want to play that sound from you and ask you about that. >> today they are supporting naked racism in the white house or at best silent about it. if you are watching this at home and you are a republican member of congress, consider the fact that when the sun sets on your career and they are writing your
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story, of all the good and bad things you did in your life, the thing you will be remembered for is whether in this moment with this president you found the courage to stand up to him or you continued to put party over country. >> are you suggesting that republicans in congress around the country are enabling racism? >> absolutely. they're enabling all of the wrong doing that this president has brought with him. from inaction on russian interference to naked racism. look, 20 years ago when david duke the klan leader ran for governor as republican in louisiana, the republican party was horrified. they ran away from him. now you see racism emanating from the white house and republicans are either supportive or they are silent. and the thing that's really important to understand right now is they know better. deep down -- it's one thing when we have a good faith disagreement over what the right thing to do is. when it comes to this president,
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they know better. he is betrayed not just my values but his own party's values. they are silent because they are afraid. america needs them to summon the courage to do the right thing. the only way that will happen is for them to be completely defeated at the ballot box. that there is some soul searching on the republican side of the oil about how they can be a seatthealthy, responsible par. >> i have a totally cosmetic story for you? did you have a smudge on your forehead and what fs that? >> all right. so our best guess is that -- there were these little gnats around. maybe i spumushed one and it go on my forehead. i don't know. that's the thing about having something on your forehead. hopefully it didn't distract from the message. >> not at all. and it's cool you killed a gnat
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on your way out. that set the tone. >> it showed lightning quick reflexes. >> you want to show you can do many things at once. >> in 25 seconds or less, where do you want to be one month from now in this race? >> well, we want to continue to consolidate our position among the leading candidates and have that round game building out. look, a lot of what people see is things like the debates. you know, your television appearances, your fund raising numbers. but we're also entering the phase where what really matters is your ability to organize. we have a new relation. that organizing model. i'm very excited about it. i think what's going to bring us to victory going into 2020. we've got 57 organizers on the ground in iowa. we're hiring right and left in all of the early states. so where i want to be a month from now is doing as well and growing when it comes to what everybody cease, but also under the hood. that kind of unglamorous work, seeing that organization really gel in the early states.
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>> mayor pete buttigieg, great to have you here. we'll follow what happens next. >> get some sleep. beto o'rourke drew a clear line between himself and the progressive candidates over border security. here's a moment. >> i expect that people who come here follow our laws and we reserve the riht to criminally prosecute them. >> all right. what does he think of his performance last night? we talk to him next. we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with the new pronamel repair toothpaste more minerals enter deep into the enamel surface. you have an opportunity to repair what's already been damaged. it 's amazing. what's already been damaged.
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okay. "new day" is live in detroit where last night we watched elizabeth warren and bernie sanders clash with their more moderate rivals. elizabeth warren laid out a series of progressive proposals and criticized her opponents for not thinking big perp. >> i don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. >> all right. who were the winners, who were the losers? joining us now is bakari
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sellers. he has endorsed kamala harris for president. angela rye, andrew gillum, and april ryan. back by popular demand. >> hey! >> your panel was so hot yesterday. >> we try. >> debauchery. >> no. >> it was mildly debauched. but angela, you never pull punches. who won last night? >> elizabeth warren. >> amen. >> absolutely no question. elizabeth warren was a strong contender last night. i was surprised. she always comes off very wonkish to me. for a good reason, she's brilliant. but last night she killed it. >> i couldn't agree more. i thought she was -- i loved the personal narrative as the people she's encountered along the trail. it shows she's listening.jectin folks. she's gone out of her way to be
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as accessible in the way she's describing these proposals as she can. >> though it's hard for her to spin the yarn in the amount of time. >> it was an issue for a number of people. i love cnn. it was tough to get through that from a timing standpoint. i've got to give honorable mention to pete buttigieg. i know y'all just had him on. but the brother came ready, prepared to deliver. i'm going to be probably the only person up here that says this. i enjoyed marianne williamson. >> no. you're not the only one. we're black. >> i'll take a hoes use in the potomac. >> the math doesn't add up. elizabeth warren won?nion that - >> yes, angela. okay. so i believe elizabeth warren says i have a plan for this, i have a plan for this. she did have a plan, but she laid back a little bit too much
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to the beginning. bernie sanders came to win. he came out there and that was his fight, i believe, against elizabeth warren. yes, they were friends but he dominated. but i did like elizabeth warren when she talked about hbcus. she was very clear about adding money for hbcus. but my mvp as we go back to channelling -- >> how you get two winners? >> i have a win and i have an mvp. because i'm april ryan. >> okay. okay! all right. >> my mavp was marianne williamson. she came to play. she did not do the girlfriend shtick we shaugt she wthought s to do. she was inspirational and aspirational. and she put on the table general sherman's -- >> special order number 50. >> yes. talking that abraham lincoln signed off on. but it never was kept. the promise was never kept. 40 acres and a yumule.
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what is the calculation today? >> her math was off. for her to say do the math and had the wrong math, she had me up until that. >> i think bernie sanders and everyone who knows me knows i'm not a big bernie sanders fan, bernie sanders came last night and he did extremely well. he made his point. i always think he runs into the same ceiling which is race. he did that again last night. he has trouble answering questions about race. marianne williamson gave the most comprehensive answer on race last night. i don't know a lot about her. i know whenever we compliment her on twitter, people are like my gosh she did this in 1982. i was like, i wasn't even born yet. i'm channelling my inner pete buttigieg. >> yeah, you are. >> so i just -- that's what it was. we have a friend named natasha brown and they're doing real work in the communities. she always comes out and she
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says the only thing we did right was the day we learned to fight. keep your eyes on the prize. hold on. marianne williamson when she was giving that forceful rebuke of the racism we see gave us that spirit of keeping your eyes on the prize, hold on. the antithesis of that was the answer of amy klobuchar. so tonight's -- we'll get there. you've got to be able to challenge that inner keep your yoo is on the prize, hold on. >> hold on just a little while longer. >> and beto stuck his toe in there. i can't say that he was not there. he rose to that level on that moment. >> she was sermonesque without religiosity. she was very distinguished on that stage by comparison to whoever else she was standing next to i think largely because she has the ability probably because of her background and past to cut through to something your nerve, your heart, your
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sinew -- >> i love you guys. i have to say one thing. marianne williamson's race reparations answer was strong. the rest of her answers were all over the place. i know you say it's because she didn't get a lot of time. but you can't ask about national security and she was on education and welfare. >> she's not going to win. >> i understand that. i want her to be over mindfulness and wellness. >> she also needs the credibility for being more than just this light and fluffy person. >> that's right. that's right. >> i want to go back to beto real quick. beto cake out talking about voting rights but also the issue of reparations. he went in the weeds but people need to know what the weeds look like. the bottom line is what he is supporting with sheila jackson lee is a bill that calls for commission to study reparations. >> and proposals. they added that this year. this used to be conyers' bill every congress. >> it does not offer direct payment or even block payments.
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so you have to be mindful and listen with a critical year to what's going on. because this is about a proposal to study in a commission. it's not necessarily giving reparations. >> if we call him out on that, we have to call bernie sanders out on once again putting forth congressman clyburn's proposal. that proposal benefits more republican rural districts than it does black folks. so bernie sanders also has to be accountable for that. >> let me turn to tonight if i can. what are you all looking for tonight? >> fight. >> number one, last night i started calling last night's debate white night. it was the least diverse of the panels. and i think tonight we have a debate stage that looks very much like the face of america. i think that there's going to be a whole lot of shade throwing, a whole lot of clapbacks, a lot of records being challenged. i think particularly when you consider kamala harris knows last time her performance helped her to rise in the polls and she slipped in the polls so she's
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got to gain some of that momentum back. the rest of the folks -- i think actually julian castro as well is the only latino man running for president. i think also has a really big opportunity to show people who he is and what he stands for. >> you know, i've talked to julian castro this week. he's going to do the clapback. you know, he said -- >> that's a back hand. >> i know. i said are you going to do the clapback. i was like that's not a clapback. he says he's going to come strong. i also spoke with joe biden at the naacp. he is internalizing this fight with kamala harris. and he is like, you know, you know my heart. you know my heart. i just stood there and listened to him. but he says he's going to come back strong. now, how strong? he has an albatross around his neck of anita hill. he's got to really figure out how to strateically go after a black woman without looking -- without bringing history back. >> they have the obama -- the
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obama? i know. thank you. that's what he wants to be called. joe biden since the last debate, they have made a litany of excuses for that performance. they weren't prepared. >> he was in shock. >> they didn't think it was going to happen. yesterday i think the excuse that we heard on this set was that they didn't know how to punch back against a woman. >> he was in shock because kamala was his friend. >> but they running for president. >> he was shocked because that was a friendship. >> you can't expect not to be challenged in friendship. i hold y'all accountable. >> there's going to be a test of every candidate's strength to withstand that rapid pace and dealing in those issues. and i honestly think at the beginning of the debate and i'll say it again. that kamala harris is going to have a lot to prove on health care. her weakest point in this race has been health care. and she's going to have to stand in her answer, own her answer, and not have to clarify her answer. >> her prosecutorial record is also on the line.
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>> i still think, though, her highest -- the biggest -- joe biden has the most to gain or lose. and i'm not sure gaining is it. rather stopping bleeding. people need to know that he is to the task. that if he's challenged on his record, this whole she's my friend and i didn't expect it -- you're running for the united states of america. whoever the nominee will b against donald trump, he's nobody's friend. he won't pull any punches. i won't declare for anybody, but i want this for him to be his best, most optimal self tonight. otherwise people will start to defect. >> all right, friends. i just have to say i think you've guaranteed another appearance on our show. >> you need to bring us back all the time. >> be careful what you wish for. >> we want this. >> you'll be here at 4:00 in the morning. >> i know it. thank you, guys. all right. joining us now or next i should
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i think we're being offered a false choice. some who want to improve the affordable care act at the margins, others who want a medicare for all program that will force people off of private insurance. i have a better path. medicare for america. everyone who's uninsured is enrolled in medicare tomorrow.
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>> okay. that was beto o'rourke staking out a middle ground on health care amid the heated debate over medicare for all last night. o'rourke has been struggling to gain traction in recent polls. so did last night's performance change that? joining us now is democratic presidential candidate and former texas congressman beto o'rourke. great to have you here. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> pleasure. so let's just start right there. explain how -- why there seems to be such a divide between medicare for all in which people lose their private health insurance and building on obama care and how you think it's a false choice and you can do both. >> i want to stay focused on the goal and want us as a country to actually get there. what i'm hearing from people is that we want guaranteed, high-quality, universal health care. so the proposal we've made, medicare for america does that by ensuring that everyone who does not have coverage today is enrolled in medicare. importantly those who are
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insufficiently insured, meaning they can't afford their copays or premiums, they can elect to move to medicare. but we respect the decisions own the judgments of the american people who want to keep employer-sponsored insurance that works for them and their families. including importantly members of unions who have fought for those health care plans and want to keep them. so we reject the false choice that you can just have the status quo, the affordable care act. or you can have a program that forces everybody off of private insurance. by listening to people, we found a better way. >> one of the things senator amy cloep sha klobuchar said last night is many times it feels they are trying to win an argument than win the general election. do you see that as a problem for the democrats going forward? >> i don't see that as a problem. we're purportedly the world's greatest democracy. there's room for competing views and visions and i'm glad that we have these kind of debates so
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that the american people can hear them. but i want to make sure that at the end of the day, one, we can defeat donald trump. and two, we can overcome the greatest set of challenges we've ever faced on health care in the wealthiest, the most powerful country on the face of the planet. there's still people dying of diabetes and the flew and curable cancers. that's not right and we can fix it. we made a proposal to do that. climate change, we've got ten years left to us as a civilization to get this right. and they're not going to be able to do it with half steps, half meshes, half the country. it can't just be one wing of the democratic party. we've got to bring everybody in. and my entire life, my entire career has been about doing that. importantly we were able to demonstrate that in texas which is going to be key to defeating donald trump. >> last time in the last debate, some of the, i don't know, critics of yours thought that it was subdued. you didn't show up. how did last night differ for you from the first debates? >> i just felt great last night.
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i felt very engaged, was able to talk about my vision for america that reflects what i've heard from the people of america on every important issue from health care to immigration to climate to making sure that we address racial disparities and racism in this country under the administration of the most racist president we've had since andrew johnson. these are the issues i'm hearing about as i travel the country. so i felt really good about that. direct, strong answers. and we've gotten really good feedback. >> last time i asked you what grade you would give yourself and you said an "a." what's the grade this time? >> anticipating that question, somebody suggested that i talk about how much i dislike high stakes, high pressured standardized tests. but i felt good about being there. just grateful, frankly, to be on that stage and able to run for president. and again, very happy with what i was able to share with the american people last night. >> all right.
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you talked about winning in texas. you taubld being able to deliver the message in texas. the texas tribune which is one of your local publications, the headline this morning may not be as flattering as you would like. beto o'rourke delivers subdued second debate performance, avoids stumbles of first round. subdued second debate performance. >> i mean, i don't know. you can offer your analysis. i felt good. i felt strong. i felt very engaged. and actually, the texas tribune the day before published a poll that showed us beating donald trump in texas by 11 points. no other democratic contender comes even close. not only does that allow us to beat trump in 2020, it forever changes the electoral landscape in america. i think that's a really positive development followed up by a strong debate performance. >> if you could win in texas. used to say arizona had been the future of the democratic party and always has been.
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to say when you get there call me. but on the issue of your performance and it wasn't just the texas tribune. "the washington post" called it lackluster last night. i'm not taking a stand one way or another, miennd you. but if there is this perception out there, what do you need to do about it? >> maybe talk to the headline writers at the texas tribune and "washington post." listening to our outstanding supporters and team that put me in this position in the first place, we are all happy with what we were able to provide and illustrate the false choice america has been offered on so many of these issues including health care. and the path that allows us to achieve this very ambitious agenda which is the path i've always taken in my life which is bringing everyone in. we say could care will ess who you voted for last time to whom you pray to and if you call yourself an american. the fact is you're in this country and we're americans
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first before anything else. we've got the future. we've just got to believe in one another at a time of polarization of a president who uses fear to drive us apart further. the answer cannot be pitting ourselves against one another or writing whole sections of the country off. >> was there anyone last night or anything that you really disagreed with that you didn't get a chance to say? >> you know, on immigration, i think almost all of us want to get to the same place. we don't want to see kids in cages or families separated. we want to rewrite this country's immigration laws in our own image. but a lot of people blame the current criminal code or immigration law for the cruelty that we're visiting on our fellow human beings. we've got to remember this is donald trump. seven children have lost their lives in or just shortly after being in u.s. custody and care along the u.s./mexico border.
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there are kids sleeping in their own filth in the clint border patrol station. we're the wealthiest country on the face of the planet and a country of immigrants and refugees. we lose sight of that at our peril and we lose sight of the problem. we do not focus on what donald trump is doing. as president, i would rewrite our immigration laws so that no one's criminalized or criminally prosecuted for seeking refuge or asylum or shelter in this country. we've got to make sure there's a safe, lawful, orderly path for folks to come here and work a job or join family. we've got to make sure no dreamer has to fear deportation back to a country they do not know. then at the end of the day, we expect people to follow our laws. and as president, i will make sure that we do all of that. >> beto o'rourke, great to talk to you. thank you for being here on "new day." >> great to see you in person. >> you as well. >> thank you. gracias. >> you can watch tonight's debate live from detroit at 8:00
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so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. it is a very important day for the u.s. economy. the federal reserve is preparing to cut interest rates for the first time since 2008. it is time for cnn business now. christine romans joins us. this is a big deal. >> it really is. by all indications, the fed is about to cut interest rates in a strong economy after a decade of economic growth. we're at an unprecedented moment here like all of the trump presidency really. the last time the fed cut rates was december 2008 when the u.s. was in the depths of a financial crisis. that quarter, gdp shrank 8.4%. the unemployment rate was 7.3%
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and rising fast. the dow on the last day of the rate cut was down 33% year to date and the s&p had crashed 37.8%. today, stocks near record highs. the s&p is up 20% this year. another very big difference, a president insulting, cajoling, and rage tweeting the fed and demanding lower rates now. >> i made the economy so strong that nothing's going to stop us. but the fed could have made it a lot easier. i would like to see a large cut and i'd like to see immediately the quantitative tightening stop. >> so why is the central bank considering cutting rates if the economy is so strong? well, preemptive damage control for the president's trade wars and slowing global growth. the question now, how big with this cut be? and what will jerome powell say about it this afternoon when he
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announces the fed move? alisyn? >> okay. we'll be watching, christine. thank you very much for all of that. so evolution or revolution? you heard both approaches last night. what do voters want? we ask the head of the dnc what he heard last night next. lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose.
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robust discussion on the oigs. and i thought last night was substantive. and you're correct, there was contrast and that's fine. the american people need to know, okay, if health care is the number one issue, which it is and appropriately so, that got the most time last night. people want to know what's your plan from getting from 90% coverage to 100% coverage. so what i'm always hoping for is that voters get the information they need to make informed judgments. and when they do, i feel indicated. >> yeah, but i'm talking about the moments, the tension where the heat gets ratcheted up and there's some pointing and a little yelling. at that point do you get nervous like uh-oh this isn't good for the party? >> i get reflective. 2008, barack obama, and hillary clinton, there were some moments there. and so the thing i would get nervous about is if i thought people punched below the belt. these were discussions about policy and to me that's fair
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game. as you probably know, four years ago in this very theater that's when they had that really important discussion about hand size on the republican side. we're not geing anywhere near that. when we talk about the issues i think that's what voters want. we need to move away from the politics of tweet and division. and that's what we saw last night. how do we do our gun violence epidemic, how do we address climate change. >> senator amy klobuchar had a line, though, sometimes she feels among the candidates it's more about winning an argument than winning an election. is there truth in that? do you feel that some of the discussions here might make it harder to win a general election? >> i don't think so in the sense that, again, we had similar discussions. i remember in 2008 there was a discussion about oh, is the
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public option a bridge too far for the american people. i think we've evolved as a nation. i think what we have to do right now is tone to educate voters and tonight i hope we'll have the same thing because health care again is one of the top issues voters are looking for. and if i'm a voter i want to know where do the candidates stack up, and they have to draw that contrast. i really appreciate that they did it without hitting below the belt. >> we keep hearing this divide among voters and what they're looking for. it's the evolution versus revolution, it's the bold versus practical, the pragmatic versus progressive. and we hear the candidates say well we can do all of it, not really. you sort of have to choose one path. as you know primary voters are
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different than election voters. >> i don't think i agree that respectfully and here's why. i worked for a guy named ted kennedy. he will always be my original political mentor. he was so-called liberal lion of the senate, a proud progressive who understood when it was time to cut the deal. he understood that and he used to say if anyone asks you what wing of the party you're from, tell them you're from the accomplishments wing because you want to get stuff done, and that's what i always have in mind. our job is to move the ball down the field from the american people. and i'm a proud member of that accomplishment wing because we're making peoples lives better. >> let me ask you tonight and in the cnn second debate, and then things change. so what happens next in the primary race in terms of the debates, what happens and why? >> our next debate september in
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houston, the 12 th and 13th. the current threshold is 1% in at least three polls or 65,000 unique donors. the threshold for september and october is 2% and -- not or -- and 130,000. if you already have 100,000 unique donors now that means you need 30,000 more. and the polling will go roughly until the end of august. we'll see i think a flurry of polls in the aftermath of this debate. >> how many candidates do you think we'll lose after this? >> i don't know. and we are planning for two nights so we have the 12th and 13th. and however many make it we'll have it. >> great to talk to you. >> it's a pleasure to be with you. >> thank tuesday our international viewers for watching. for you "cnn newsroom" with max foster is next.
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for our u.s. viewers, the stage is set for another debate tonight. "new day" continues right now. our biggest problem in washington is corruption. we need to have the courage to fight back against that. >> medicare for all is comprehensive, covers all health care needs for senior citizens. i do know. i wrote the damn bill. >> this isn't just thinking we have to sacrifice our values to actually wib. >> how we win an election is to bring everyone with us. >> i didn't have more of an understanding about what they're going to do. it's going to be a very different dynamic. good morning and welcome to your new day, this special edition of "new day," the debate
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halftime show. we're live in detroit just 12 hours away now from the second cnn democratic debate. ten more candidates will take the stage. the focus for a lot of people is on the rematch between joe biden and kamala harris. the former vice president has said he will not be as polite this time around. so what will that look like? what will he dee differently and what will that mean for his rival. >> there was no lack of energy last night or substance on that debate stage. the leading progressive candidates senators lelizabeth warren and bernie sanders clashed with some of their rivals over policy including medicare for all proposal. so cnn's athena jones live with us on the debate stage with what we can expect

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