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general motors. the workers on the picket line after contract talks broke down over the weekend. the strike is affecting more than 50 gm facilities across the united states. the union and gm are set to go back to the negotiating table in two hours. we're going to speak live with one of the union negotiators in just a moment. the president says the u.s. is locked and loaded after the u.s. blamed iran for attacks on saudi arabian oil fields. about 6 million billions of oil a day were knocked out in the coordinated strike. stock futures pointing to the dow opening down this morning amid fears spiking oil prices could lead to a slowdown of the global economy. we'll start with the united auto workers strike. nearly 50,000 on the picket line this morning, joining us now is terry dittes vice president of the united mobile workers union and lead negotiator with general motors. thank you very much for being with us this morning. you head back into negotiations in two hours.
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what's your message to gm this morning? >> thank you. we have outstanding issues that we still need to resolve, and we are committed to do that. we are hopeful that this morning general motors is also committed to sit down and bridge that gap and address all the issues that are still currently on the bar beginning table. >> general motors put out a statement, and it's unusual for them by the way to reveal what they have offered, but their statement said, we presented a strong offer that improves wages, benefits and grows u.s. jobs in substantive ways and it's disappointing the uaw leadership has chosen to strike. we have negotiated in good faith and our goal remains to build a strong future for our employees and our businesses. they say they've offered new money, they said they have made some offers having to do with some of the plants that they've closed. what more do you want from them? >> so let me just state for the
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record that only 2% of our proposals have been tentatively agreed to. let me make a comment on details regarding negotiations. we in the union do not negotiate in the press and i think most people that are in the press that are reporters respect that. i have been asked numerous times about details specific to negotiations. in all my years, i have never disclosed those details outside the bargaining table. that is an issue that when we meet this morning, that we're going to have continued conversation amongst each other about that type of tactic. that is not something we do in the union. that is not something we will do. so i am not here to disclose any details or specifics of that contract. >> talk about lordstown, this is the plant, the cruz plant that was shut down. do you want gm to reopen that
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plant? >> well, we are focused on job security for some 50,000 members and their families. there are several plants that are unallocated but the theme of job security and secured employment is what we have been talking about time and time again after and during these negotiations. one of the plants right behind me where you see the marching uaw members is the hamtramck plant. they are on that list to potentially not have product for years to come. so there are four and there may be additional, but in november 26, 2018, four of them were announced. specific details on each one, i will not get into. what i will tell you is that it has always within a priority for the uaw to sustain job security in any one of our agreements and
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we are going to continue to have those discussions. as far as specific details on lordstown or any of the others, i'm not at liberty to talk about them. we will continue to talk about job security as we get back to the bar beginning table. >> so the president, president trump, put out a statement overnight, he said here we go again with general motors and the united auto workers. get together and make a deal. how does that help in your negotiations? >> so i am not sure how it helps, but here's what i do know. we are committed to reach a tentative agreement. when we start back in negotiations, i am sure that we will be refocused to do so, just that. i didn't read the quote from the president and, quite frankly, we're very focused on these negotiations, the people behind us, their families, the communities, and quite frankly these american jobs because for every autoworker here, there are
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seven additional jobs attached to what they do. that is the big picture. >> terry, let me ask you this -- >> we plan to roll up our sleeves and get back at it. yes, sir? >> there is an investigation into some members of the uaw leadership and allegations of corruption. what do you want uaw members to know about how that is affecting these negotiations? >> so that is not affecting these negotiations whatsoever. we remain focused. i have met with the staff as a part of our negotiating team several times. they are focused on the end result. they are focused on the people behind me and in plants all over the country. our focus is not on those things. those things will take care of themselves. they will be sorted out. that has not affected our negotiations one bit. not a single bit. we are there to negotiate. i am focused on it as is all the
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uaw/gm staff and the top negotiators around the country. >> terry dittes thank you for joining us this morning and keeping us posted. it's loud there. we wish you the best as you head back to negotiate this morning in two hours. a lot of people have their jobs on the line. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. president trump is hinting at military action after saturday's attack on saudi oil fields saying the u.s. is, quote, locked and loaded. several in the trump administration blaming iran. tehran denies any involvement. joining us is chief international anchor christiane amanpour. the president saying locked and loaded, lindsey graham saying it's time to put attacks on iranian oil refineries on the table. the president was clear we need to wait for the saudi assessment of what they believe actually happened here. once we have that, what could we see in terms of action? >> look, it's very, very difficult to know because this is a very high stakes, high-profile, dramatic
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negotiating table if i can say that in that region. as you know, the iranians and the americans have been in this headlock of each trying to get their way for many, many months, especially since the sanctions have started to really bite. now, according to the u.s. officials who have seen the satellite pictures that were released by the administration, there was some 19 highly accurate, pin-pick strikes according to u.s. officials and analysts who know how to read these things, on this very important saudi infrastructure. it has hit a very, very important and very public element of not just the saudi economy, oil, but also the u.s. economy, oil. and i have been talking to my sources who say that this is part of a strategy where they don't know who actually did this and nobody is saying who did it because the u.s. isn't saying it yet defunnitively, saudis have said nothing, europeans are not blaming iran at the moment. what is the strategy? according to my sources it is to show the united states that,
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quote, maximum pressure isn't working and that until the u.s. takes the iranian demands seriously to ease or lift sanctions, iran won't get serious about deescalating. according to the french officials who, as you know, have been in touch with the iranians trying to broker some kind of deescalation with the united states that's what iran is looking for, deescalation and not necessarily a meeting with president trump. these are all the bits that are floating around in this very, very as i said high stakes, dramatic and possible miscalculation over how the iran/u.s. relationship is going to go forward. erica? >> i think all the words you're using are dead on, high stakes and dramatic, to attack a facility like this in the heart of saudi arabia is not something we have seen. mike pompeo, the u.s. secretary of state, has basically said he blames iran from this. how unusual would it be,
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christian, for iran to launch this kind of strike directly? this isn't how they usually operate. >> that's exactly right. i went back into the ar kivgs and asked someone to look it up, it wasn't -- you know, 1984 when iranian jets breached saudi air space and were shot down, so nothing actually happened. this was in the height of the post-revolutionary antagonism between iran and saudi arabia. nothing like this has happened since. iran was blamed for the 1995 attacks against a u.s. military installation inside saudi arabia, but since then nothing like this has happened. what you have, though, is the houthis, occasionally backed by iran, taking responsibility and various sides believing that because the houthis have successfully pen tratsds saudi air space and saudi territory over the years that the saudi has been launching with the u.s. help this war on yemen. if the satellite images are correct and this came from the north and it was either iran,
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unlikely, more likely potentially from iraq, then that is, according to my sources, an additional message to the united states that their economy is vulnerable and that they want to be taken seriously and it's not all about a meeting -- in fact, apparently according to my source, the supreme leader of iran doesn't want a meeting even though the treasury secretary steve mnuchin said president trump was willing to have a meeting no conditions with the iranian president. you have a lot of sort of mixed signals in terms of, you know, verbally from the u.s., but you have at the heart of it, what to do and people are pointing again at the strikes that took place, limited strikes, remember, on those tankers in the persian gulf over july. that again was a message and according to my sources with plausible deniability, but those were aimed at breaking the uae, the emirates, from their position with the saudi arabians and the u.s. that seems to have been
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successful. >> christiane amanpour for us, we should point out in terms of mixed messaging, steve mnuchin and mike pompeo saying no conditions, the president pushing back on that which he has said in the past as well. thank you. is president trump afraid of a little competition? the three republicans challenging president trump in 2020, now suggesting he is and one of them joins us next. (beep) the ups and downs of frequent mood swings can plummet you to extreme lows. (crying) lift you to intense highs. (muffled arguing) or, make you feel both at once. overwhelmed by bipolar i symptoms? ask about vraylar. some medications only treat the lows or the highs. vraylar effectively treats depression, acute manic and mixed episodes of bipolar i. full-spectrum relief of all symptoms. with just one pill, once a day. elderly patients with dementia-related psychosis have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts.
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three of president trump's 2020 republican challengers writing an op-ed in "the washington post" criticizing the decision by republican parties in four states, including nevada and south carolina, to cancel their primary elections. joining us now is republican presidential candidate joe walsh, former republican congressman from illinois, good to have you back with us this morning. >> good to be with you. >> in this piece which you wrote with bill weld and rick sanford, you called the decision to cancel the primaries
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un-american. we should point out it has been done before, as you know, by both parties. why do you say it's different now in 2019? >> because it's never been done when there's been primary challengers. look, we can't be numb to this. i know it's difficult because this president seemingly every day attacks our democracy, but we have to be outraged. i always want to pinch myself and remind myself that this isn't russia. i do not live in russia. i refuse to live in russia. we can't just cancel elections in this country. that's what donald trump is doing. he's literally canceling elections, and it's very easy to be pissed off at trump, but we're used to this with trump. he is a would-be dictator. he would like this to be russia. i've got to tell you, i'm blown away in my disappointment with the republican party who is in
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cahoots with this president, and again, literally eliminating elections. >> as you know some of the states have said listen there's no reason to bear this cost when there is no real contest at stake. in the most recent cnn polling we should point out among republicans, an 88% approval rating for the president, approve of the job he's doing, 84% want to see the president re-elected. how do you respond to those numbers? >> what cost -- >> go ahead. >> yeah. no, i was going to say, what costs do we put on disenfranchising voters? we continue to put up that number, 88% of republicans support trump. look that support has softened and wants an alternative and is sick and tired of this president's daily assault on our democracy. i guarantee you that if you polled republican voters in those four states, south carolina, arizona, nevada, and kansas, and you told them that the president of the united states just took away their
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right to vote in 2020, i guarantee you most republicans would be against that. kevin mccarthy, my former colleague, this weekend in baltimore, he said and i quote, the republican party has never been this strong and this united. does a strong, united party cancel elections? >> so let me ask you then, beyond writing this op-ed, what is your plan? how do you plan to challenge it? >> to go right to the voters. i've given up on the republican party. the republican party is a cult, right. they no longer stand for ideas. the republican party right now is all about washing their leaders' feet every day. that's what they do. we're going to take our campaign directly to republican voters and i'll add, in all 50 states, we're going to campaign in all 50 states. we're going to campaign in south carolina, arizona, nevada, and
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kansas, because i believe if we let these republican voters know that the president of the united states just took away their right to vote they'll march on the headquarters of their state parties to get that right to vote back. we're going to go right to republican voters. >> as you're going right to republican voters i know you have been -- had recent meetings with george conway, no fan of the president's, mark sanford also hinting he had been speaking with george conway. he is an adviser as i understand for you, does not have a formal role in your campaign. how much are all three of you in conversations with george conway? how much is he helping each one of you as candidates? >> look, all i can do is speak for myself and all i can do is speak to george conway. he's a great american, a great patriot. it takes courage for george conway to say right now about what this president that he says. look, i would be honored to have george conway's support. i would be honored to have any influential concerned american's
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support right now who will join me in acknowledging that this president is unfit. george conway believes that this president is unfit and i do as well. i think and george thinks, most republicans deep down believe that as well. >> as part of this op-ed, you write, cowards run from fights. warriors stand and fight for what they believe. the united states respects warriors only the weak fear competition. who specifically are the cowards that you're referring to? >> the republican party and the president of the united states. look, donald trump is a bully. you and i know that bullies are cowards. therefore, donald trump is a coward. and all of these republicans in the republican party who have abandoned everything they believe in, right, free and fair competition, the marketplace of ideas, they have abandoned all of that, again, to wash this president's feet every day, they're cowards as well. >> joe walsh, good to talk to you. thank you.
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it is a debate that has embroiled college athletics for years. should student athletes be allowed to receive some compensation for their efforts? california senate passed the fair pay to play act which would allow college athletes to earn money for endorsements. this is in direct violation of ncaa rules and now other states could follow suit. joining me is the executive director of the national college players association, which co-sponsored the california bill. thank you so much for being with us. i think this is such an important discussion and i think people need to understand the issues at play here, but first off, you call it dehumanizing for the ncaa to deny students the freedom to benefit from their sports.
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explain this, dehumanizing. >> i think the notion that caused athletes name, likeness, can be owned by sports is dehumanizing. college athletes are people not university property and in addition to, that they should not be denied the rights and liberties afforded to other students on campus, other california residents or citizens in this country. my background, one of my teammates was suspended over groceries that he ate and the ncaa said well you used your name, image and likeness, talking on the radio station about how you were broke. the store was selling his jersey in the student store capitalizing off of him. that's one of many that makes it dehumanizing. >> that is the quintessential example of how a school will profit by selling a jersey with the name of a player and the player gets nothing for it. now, the ncaa has a different take on this. they wrote a letter to gavin newsom who will have to sign the
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bill in california for it to become law and say that bill would erase the critical distinction between college and professional athletics and because it gives those schools an unfair recruiting advantage would result in them being unable eventually to compete in ncaa competitions. how do you respond to that? >> first and foremost when it talks about professionalizing college sports, ncaa amateurism is a fraud. the notion that this is just, you know, a high school basketball or little league, it's not. this is a $14 billion a year industry with millionaire coaches, ucla has an under armour deal worth $280 million and in turn require players to wear the under armour logo to basically serve as walking billboards for this company. it's not amateur athletics and to use that as a justification is ridiculous. in terms of the level playing field, multiple court rulings have shown that there is not a level playing field currently in ncaa sports with the current restrictions. you have 99% of the top recruits
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going to the power five conferences which in turn win 90% of the championships. neither is any justification valid to strip players of equal rights and protections. >> there could be an interstate commerce standpoint if california has one law, typically the court have ruled that one state can't dictate commerce for the entire country. >> well, that does not apply in certain matters. when that rule does not have to be universal aform, and in this it's not uniform. in the same division, division one, ivy league players who get zero dollars, versus the five-year athletes getting $300,000 over five years. players on the same team in some cases have no scholarship, full scholarship or partial scholarship on the same team. already it does not apply and doesn't have to be uniform and in matters of local public interests in the state of california, working to protect their players' civil rights, that all trumps any kind of
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notion that ncaa can control california. >> what about the title 9 implications? most of the proposals deal with compensation having to deal with endorsements and likeness? if male athletes are receiving more money because it's their jerseys that are being sold at a higher rate, does that raise questions about fairness for some of the female athletes? >> well, actually, i think this is going to be a big step forward for female athletes. anything that the schools do, they have to do for female athletes first of all. title 9, that's the law if that's the case. any outside money is fair game for anybody. one of the best examples is katie ledecky a five-time gold medalist swimmer for stanford, basically had to leave college sports to get any endorsement money which deprives female athletes in their platforms to actually grow the sport. i think it's going to be a big step forward. also the ncaa, if you look at title 9, one of the things that this bill does is to allow college athletes to get sports agents, have legal
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representation. the ncaa recently made moves to allow only male athletes, some of the male athletes for college basketball, to have sports agents and denies every female athlete the same right. we can't follow the ncaa. the ncaa has been a bad actor with players. that's a walking title 9 violation in itself. the state of california should be taking the lead on this. >> the other argument you will hear referred to for generations, this is not the way it's supposed to be, this is not amateur athletics and tim tebow who played college football and is a commentator on tv had this to say about that over the weekend. >> we live in a selfish culture where it's all about us, but we're just adding and piling it on to that. it changes what's special about college football and we turned night the nfl, who has the most money, that's where you go. >> how do you respond to tebow? >> well, first, i have a lot of respect for tim tebow but couldn't disagree with him more on this issue. colleges are set up in order for regular students to set themselves up economically.
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they're searching for economic prosperity, to have a double standard where you say college athletes shouldn't do the same doesn't hold water. i'm hoping tim changes his mind opt this. at the end of the day thankfully tim is not the governor or a lawmaker that will vote on this. i do think there should not be a double standard for college athletes. everyone in america should have every right, economic liberty afforded to every citizen in america. >> i have to say thank you so much for coming in and having this discussion. it's a lot more complicated than i think people realize and it raises a whole bunch of side issues that we had a chance to talk about this morning, and it's something people ought to think about and think about hard. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. all right. president trump has good reason to doubt many of the national polls coming out his way. after all, most polls showed his 2016 victory a long shot, but dig deeper into the numbers and there are real alarm bells the president would be unwise to ignore. >> john joining us with today's reality check. >> good morning.
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president trump's been hate tweeting a lot lately about polls, calling them all fake news. which means they're probably not looking too good for him. but that's despite a cnn poll from june that found a majority of americans think trump will win re-election and there's a lot of confidence coming from the white house. they point to the power of incumbency, a huge money advantage and at least to date strong economy. but go back to the data and you'll see that there is real reason for trump to be nervous. first, he's the only president in the history of the gallup poll never to hit 50% approval. that's despite the lowest unemployment rate in nearly 50 years. that's not all. a new cnn poll shows a stunning six in ten voters say that trump doesn't deserve a second term, with a dismal 39% approval rating. dig deeper and you will see a stark enthusiasm gap. a recent "washington post"/abc poll found 27% of folks strongly approval of trump's performance, while 48% strongly disapprove. another poll, 53% of registered voters say they would definitely vote against him. we should know that national
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numbers don't mean a whole lot, right? let's look at trump's approval rating in key swing states. florida, trump's got a 44% approval rating, despite 54% of folks saying they're financially better off than in 2016. how about pennsylvania? 42% of keystone state voters say trump is doing a great job. michigan, where trump won by 10,000 votes, his approval rate down to 44%. wisconsin, where september poll showed that trump at 45%. trump's under water in states he easily won like ohio where only 43% of voters approach of the job he's doing. north carolina the most recent gallup numbers put trump at 45% and 45% in iowa, a state he won by almost ten points. under water in texas, 45%. poll last week showing that 48% of lone star voters say they definitely vote against him. yes, polls are just snapshots in time, but these trends are
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definitely not donald trump's friends. no wonder the president keeps insisting that internal polling looks great, best ever. but there is, of course, still plenty of time for democrats to screw this up. polls show that trump's strongest re-election argument is to run against a social in which trump wins by a six-point spread. republicans are trying to label democrats as radical socialists and folks on the far left could be doing his work for him. might explain why joe biden has the biggest lead over trump in head to head matchups, florida 9 points, pennsylvania 11 points, wisconsin 9, ohio 8 points. other democrats often beat trump in states like this, sanders and warren, but by consistently smaller margins. we're still more than 13 months out from election day but right now the numbers show that president trump is in an objective and possibly unprecedented position of weakness. and that's your reality check. >> you don't like the polls, john, when they consistently show bad things for you. i think that's a fair statement. >> doesn't make them fake though. >> appreciate it. >> former vice president joe
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all right. a lot of talk this morning about a speech from former vice president joe biden. an emotional address about hate at an anniversary memorial for the 1963 birmingham church bombing as the 2020 democratic frontrunner is under new scrutiny for his past record and more recent statements on racial issues. cnn is live in south carolina this morning where biden and others are stumping today.
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this was an interesting address. >> it really was, john. it was a powerful speech. the former vice president joe biden warning and talking about forces of hatred that still exist in this country decades after that church bombing killed four young girls. trips to states like alabama and here in south carolina are all part of biden's push to court the black vote. that's going to be a key component for any democrat seeking the nomination and right now black voters make up a key component of biden's support. >> hate is on the rise again, and we're at a defining moment again in american history. >> reporter: joe biden, at the pulpit of 16th street baptist church in birmingham. 56 years after a bombing by the kkk killed four young girls. >> their murders lay beare the lie that a child can be free in america while long
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shadow darkened our cities ann day hate-filled massacres like the shootings in el paso and charleston. >> this violence does not live in the past. we have not relegated racism and white supremacy to the pages of history. >> reporter: biden's trip to the super tuesday state of alabama comes as he's courting black vote, which is critical in the path to the democratic nomination. nearly five months after entering the 2020 race, biden is still leading the democratic field, fueled largely by his consistent support from black voters. >> my mind has been made up pretty much from the beginning. >> who is that? >> joe biden. >> reporter: a poll found 42% of democratic black voters back biden. >> i watched my buddy barack stand up there. >> reporter: for many black voters biden's service alongside
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president obama is a strong credential. >> the first black president was president obama, and he chose him, president obama chose him for a reason. >> reporter: for some considering biden in 2020 those issues aren't impacting their decision just yet. >> while i think vice president biden is an amazing public servant, i don't think that should make him the automatic democratic nominee. >> reporter: biden's history with race-related issues has come under scrutiny in the 2020 race from his opposition to school bussing to his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill. this answer at last week's debate after he was asked about the legacy of slavery drawing some criticism. >> we bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. it's not that they don't want to help, they don't -- they don't know quite what to do. >> reporter: for some considering biden in 2020 those issues aren't impacting their support just yet. >> he makes you feel like he
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knows you and we know he really can't, but he makes you feel good. >> i'm like everyone else, we're looking. he will probably be one of the more stronger candidates that could take on the trump administration and actually win. we're interested in winning, not just running. >> reporter: now here in south carolina black voters make up 61% of the democratic primary electorate. joe biden has been building relationships in the state for decades. the question going forward is, can he turn those relationships with black voters into actual support at the ballot box? >> so far with the polls the answer is yes. the question is how long can or will that last? terrific reporting, thanks very much. time for the five things to know. number one, president trump hosts bahrain's crown prince today. they're expected to discuss iran, security in the persian gulf and counterterrorism. >> later this afternoon president trump will honor new york yankees great mariano
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rivera with the highest civilian honor the presidential medal of freedom. he was the first player unanimously elected to the baseball hall of fame for his 19-year career with the yankees. >> purdue pharma that made billions selling oxycontin is filing for bankruptcy part of the framework to settle thousands of opioid-related lawsuits by state and local and tribal governments. humberto strengthening to category 1 hurricane. luckily it is forecast to turn away from the u.s. mainland. if it stays on track it could threaten bermuda by midweek. the bahamas, recovering from dorian's devastation, were spared the worst of humberto over the weekend. ric ocasek founder and front man of the cars died sunday in his new york apartment. the cars had a string of hits including "my best friend's girl" and "drive." they were inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame in 2018. ric ocasek was 75. the cause of his death has not been released. one of the great boston bands.
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cnn they do not comment on pending litigation. joining us now the family, rowi, and their children, kes m and lev. good to have you here. for a lot of folks this is probably confusing to them and it was to you because you went through the same process with your son in 2016. no hiccup, no hurdle. what changed? >> yeah. we are not sure. we were pretty shocked when submitting our application and getting the refusal. as you mentioned, we were -- we went through this process before with no issues. it was in the previous -- under the previous state department. we were very confused and very devastated as well. >> and the law, it's our understanding, has not changed in that time. initially, though, your application for your daughter was approved. >> well, our daughter applied for passport, we applied for her, right after she was born.
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we went into the passport office. we submitted ourp application. immediate this, this did not happen with our son, they wrote on the application surrogacy because we were two men and then we were forced to sit there for an hour after different sex couple after different sex couple walked up to the same procedure and walked away. we had to sit there through that sort of humiliation, if you will, and that was really frustrating. and then when we got the rejection letter, it was sort of the punch in the gut if you will. >> you went up and this didn't happen with your son, they wrote surrogacy on your daughter's application and then you mentioned other couples came up after you. did they also have a child born via surrogate? >> it wasn't clear to us at the passport office. i'm saying other couples came up after us and it took two minutes and they left. >> you're part of a lawsuit, we know that this is the fourth lawsuit as i understand it,
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against the state department policy, a federal judge ruled in favor of another same-sex couple in february and then the state department appealed. where do things stand for you right now? >> well, so we submitted our lawsuit last week and we're basically in a state of waiting, hearing what state department has to say. you know, we are trying to keep on living our daily life and trying to deal with two kids under 3 in a house -- >> that's no small feat. >> it's challenging and it's just like another layer of anxiety which is really unnecessary. i mean it's very upsetting, it's very nerve-racking to be in a scenario where we need to fight for our family, we need to fight for our marriage, for this. i mean we are parents, we've been married for six years, and the last thing that would have imagined to do is being here on tv and not like, you know,
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taking those kids to the playground and like enjoying being parents. >> i want to say, you know, we were there the moment she was born. we were the first people who held her. she first cried in our arms. we gave her her first feeding, bath, she first slept on our chest, skin to skin. we are the only parents she's ever know. we know what a family is. the law is clear on what a family is. we filed this suit on my parents' 52nd wedding anniversary. they raised five kids and taught us what family is. it's clear to everyone, apparently except for the state department, and i would urge secretary pompeo to fix this in a second. it can be fixed. >> what else have you been told besides the fact that she's born out of wedlock? is that the only reason they're giving you? >> essentially yeah. this is the reason. they don't recognize us as a family. they don't recognize our children as born to us. they are not recognized each of
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us as the parent of both of our children. even though, you know, those children were born into this marriage. those children have two parents. we are the only parents they have had since they were born. on birth certificate, we are family and parents and we're both u.s. citizens. this scenario is just cruel. >> the supreme court has already ruled on same-sex marriage that we're supposed to get all of the benefits. what's the point of giving us, recognizing our right to marry if you're not going to recognize the families we create with that marriage. >> so as we mentioned, we know she was born in canada via surrogate, she's here sitting on your lap but here on a tourist visa and that's set to expire pretty soon. what happens at that point? >> it is. and you know that's really unsettling. every parent wants to give their child security for today and assurances for tomorrow and this policy isn't letting us do that. you know, we have to explain to
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