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afternoon. but let's get to our breaking news right now. kaitlan collins and evan perez join me from washington. good evening to you. there are a lot of new developments tonight on this whistle blower story. take us through the latest reporting, please. >> don, the biggest new information comes from "the washington post," which is reporting that whatever it was that really raised concerns for this alleged whistle-blower to come forward to the inspector general had to do with some communication, some events that had to do with ukraine. and part appeared to be communication involving the president. at this point we don't know a lot of great detail about exactly the details of what exactly raised these concerns. what did the president say. what were these communications that were going on with this foreign leader. we now know that at least it had to do with ukraine. we simply also know -- we know that the trump administration has been holding up until recently about $250 million in aid.
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and so that's one of the things that questions of being raised about the timing of this. you know that the president spoke to the president of ukraine in late july. and this whistle blower comes forward on august 12. again the timing here is a very big concern and one of the reasons why there's so many questions that remain. >> evan, i've got another question for you. rudy giuliani on cnn a short time ago. what did he say about the president speaking with ukraine's president? >> that's right. one of the big questions that remains is exactly what went on in that conversation. we know there was read out of the conversation that the white house put out. what else might have been said perhaps that is what caused this whistle blower to come forward. take a listen to what giuliani said. whatever was said in the conversation between the two presidents. >> were you finally answered my question. now that we're 12 minutes in. did the president -- >> we really believe his son wasn't under investigation? >> why won't you answer the
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question? >> what's the question? >> thank you. did the president talk to the ukrainian president about what we wanted done with joe biden and what he wanted done with paul manafort? >> i have no idea. i never asked him that. i don't know if he did and i wouldn't care if he did. he had every right to do it as the president of the united states. to the ukrainian president we have two outstanding allegations of massive corruption. >> did he ask you to do what you are doing? >> no, did what i did on my own. >> really? >> and told him about it afterwards. >> because i'm his lawyer. >> don, that's one of the big questions that arises from this. was the president asking essentially for help from the ukraine -- from ukrainian government perhaps to damage the biden presidential campaign come 2020. we don't know. obviously that's what's the big thing that overhangs. and what rudolph giuliani is sort of avoiding answering in
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his answer to chris cuomo in the last hour. >> katelyn, indicatkaitlyn, we s a call between president trump and ukraine president. we don't know if that is what's involved in this promise. that's being reported. interesting differences in the read out between ukraine version and the white house version. what's going on? >> big differences. we're not sure how they fit into the allegation. if you look at the last time the president that we know of spoke with the ukrainian president, we got two very different readouts from the white house and from ukraine. the president's saying convinced the new ukrainian government will be able to quickly and improve the image of ukraine, which inhibited the interaction between the ukraine and the u.s. we should know the white house version was much shorter, only talking about improving the relationship between the united states and ukraine. and while we're still figuring out how they should fit into this allegation, because of statements like this, because of
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what president giuliani have been saying, there were all right questions about the president's interactions with ukraine long before this whistle-blower's complaint. >> kaitlan, nothing new from this report, but he addressed this whistle-blower complain on twitter this morning. >> yeah, it took him a little longer than we expected. the president pushed back essentially saying this is his style and how he communicates with world leaders. had said it's fake news and never ends. every time he speaks on the phone to a foreign leader i understand there maybe many people listening from various u.s. agencies and the country itself. no problem. he said knowing this is anybody dumb enough to believe i would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader along a potentially heavily populated call. i would only do what is right anyway and good for the u.s. but don, we should note that yes, typically when the president does make a call with a foreign leader, it starts out in "the situation room" and then the leaders are patched together on a secure line.
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with president trump in office he developed a habit where essentially he will give out his personal cell phone number to the leaders he developed a personal relationship with. and sometimes he calls them at night when he's in the residence. there's no staff around. and it's not on the secure line. it's done through the president's cell phone. not true "the situation room." so there are instances where there aren't a lot of people on the president's calls. >> oh, boy. thank you, both. appreciate it. let's bring juliette kayyem, matthew rosenberg. you guys heard all of that. let's discuss now. j juliette, "the washington post" reporting that giuliani's interview raising a lot of questions about the president and the white house interaction with ukraine. give me your takeaway, please. >> i think we're sort of missing the take away. rudy giuliani is rudy giuliani. i think my takeaway from today was another letter that the ig for the odni sent to congress. in that letter it becomes clear
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this is not some trump trying to get policy change in the letter that was disclosed today the ig again says this is an issue of grave concern. we should interpret to not being a policy issue. it is not just someone who heard something passing in the hallway, but then adds this piece which it is something that most significant and important of the odni duty. in other words it relates to american democracy. and the ability if it is the ukraine the ability of the election to be free and pristine from foreign influence. that letter along with the "washington post" reporting tieing it to the ukraine. suggests this cuts to the core of the democratic process and not going away for the white house. no matter how much they release election security funding or anything that they're going to do in the next couple days to get ahead of this story. >> asha, a lot of people asking does the president have a right, does he have a right.
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he has a lot of leeway when it comes to dealing with foreign leaders. you point out that his article 2 powers don't extend to offering quid pro quo. and if this it true this is an abuse of power. is it? >> absolutely. he can't use his article 2 power for personal gain. and if there ends up being any indication he offered something in his presidential authority in order to receive something that would benefit him personally for example in election. that is a problem. there's a reason that the framers of the constitution included bribery as impeachable defense. they didn't want self-dealing. but don, here's the other thing. we literally just finished an investigation about foreign interference in an election. >> right. >> like, hello, okay? and what -- and, you know -- >> what was it called? what was it called? >> it started with the m. >> mueller. >> the mueller report, as my
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daughter calls it. but here if there was this quid pro quo, if this foreign government is essentially digging up dirt that's going to help him, it is a thing of value, and the value is whatever aid or whatever he is willing to go. that is a election federal election campaign violation. which we have already been through. we have done this. >> also even if the president has committed crimes, he may not be prosecuted for this. it is troubling. i don't know, i'm not an attorney. >> and i'll just add here, don, in the mueller report, one of the big factors that the campaign finance violations weren't able to be prosecuted is a lack of knowledge on the part of the participant, that they didn't understand it. >> that's not the case. okay. so listen, matthew, you have some new reporting i understand from "new york times." what can you tell us about it? >> this is set up basically,
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sorry, excuse me, we understand this was multiple interactions. it wasn't just one. and the testimony today from the ig behind closed doors in congress kind of laid out a tapestry of interactions. we're looking at more than one and more than maybe possibly ukraine. we just don't know. we're in this bizarre point with the story. where we know there's a complaint. we know people are taking it seriously. we know the president is involved. we don't know who made the complaint. we still are unclear on the details. that does affect a lot of what we can say about it at this point. >> juliette, the president and giuliani have both spoken before about their interest in biden and ukraine. this has been fairly out in the open. is it a stretch there could have been some conversations behind the scenes? >> there's no behind the scenes when you're president of the
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united states. giuliani is his personal attorney. he has no he doesn't represent me. he has no confirmed position. he's not even in the staff of the white house. he's sort of this weird free agent. but people know he speaks for the president. if giuliani says something, everyone is going to know it's going to know that is the same if don jr. said something. president wants it. when you're the president you don't get alternative processes. that's the benefit a privilege to be president. but you don't get to side deal. that's essentially what appears to be happening across the world we're seeing from saudi arabia. to mexico. and where mp else trump trump i his money. it's important we realize there's no second trump. there's no personal trump when you're president of the united states. that's key in this instance because when he's on a phone call saying i'm going to withhold a certain amount of money because i don't like biden. he is speaking not as someone
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who is a private citizen running for office. he's speaking as a president of the united states. it is, i'll just quote the ig, of grave concern. you can put a name behind it. it's illegal, it's impeachable. let the lawyers decide that. it's of grave concern that we and congress should know about. >> where does this go from here? will we find out the truth? >> i think that what is going to end up happening is this will have to be litigated. my suspicion is that the white house is going to hang their hat of the constitutional article 2. argument they have essentially sort of discretion to have confidential conversations with foreign leaders and congress will say no. we have oversight authority. if that breaks the law. when you have the clash and they are unable to work it out on their own and the white house has continued to stonewall congress on other fronts, it ends up being up to the courts to delineate where one power
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ends and another begins. and that may take some time. >> listen, incredible risk for the whistle-blower to come forward given the dni and the doj how they handled it. what do you think happens next? i'll give you the final word, matthew. >> i think asha's right. it's going to go on. also you have an intelligence community full of people who feel they have been disrespected by the president. and this includes senior officials as well. this is a situation where there are people who are incentivised to leak. who do look inside and say look, we've got a process that's broken. this is how you're supposed to do it. this is how the system is supposed to work. it's not working. they're pressing the safety valve, you know, and that's how this stuff gets out. that's how it becomes public. >> thank you, all. appreciate it. a fiery rudy giuliani trying to defend his boss, the president on cnn tonight, but did he make matters worse? well, you're going to hear more of what he said, and that's next. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow
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the presidents a personal attorney, personal attorney spending nearly half an hour obfuscating, spinning, avoiding questions from chris, tonight on the show before us. while rudy giuliani denied asking to investigate joe biden. he admitted to do that seconds later. we have to talk about it. frank bruni is here. ryan lizza and rick wilson. ryan is the author of "everything trump touches dies." good evening one and all. what rudy giuliani told chris he didn't know what the president did. but, if he did do it, it was okay, and what rudy did, he did on his own. he told the president about it after wards. i'm sorry. what did we learn from this? >> we learned that rudy giuliani will say anything and mount any argument in his loyalty to the president. which i don't quite understand. i don't understand a lot of loyalty to the president.
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it's absurd. we don't know what the president did, regardless it's okay. and what he's talking about is is the sort of tit for tat aid in return for investigating biden's son or something. if that's the case, absolutely it's wrong. we just have gone through a chapter of american history where we've been looking at foreign meddling in an election and whether that was solicited and whether there was collusion and all that stuff. and now we're looking at the possibility, possibility that the president invited to it happen again on his behalf, even as the rest of this, you know, was coming to a head. it boggles the mind. i don't know how to react. >> join the club. rick, listen, i'll bring you in. rudy giuliani he contradicted himself multiple times. shouted personal insults at chris. at the network and on and on. here's more and then we'll talk about it.
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>> you don't know what happened. i know what happened. >> how do you know and i don't know? >> you're just repeating spin. >> oh. but you don't? >> and you want to cover some ridiculous charge that i urged the ukrainian government to investigate corruption. well, i did. and i'm proud of it. >> it's not a ridiculous allegation. you admitted it. >> all i can tell you is if what is reported is true, it doesn't make a damn. it doesn't make any difference. if the president of the united states said to the president of ukraine, investigate the corruption in your country. that has a bearing on our 2016 election, isn't that what he's supposed to do? >> okay. would he be that freaked out if there was nothing to the story? >> you know, i've known rudy a pretty long time. i've been around the block with rudy since 1997. he's pretty amped up tonight. that was a pretty high intensity
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rudy moment. and i will say the gem that came out of that that we need to dredge up little watergate reference here, he is basically saying if the president does it, it's not illegal. now as much as some people are fans of the unitary executive theory, there are still some things that are illegal. there are still things that are inappropriate. there are still things that are unethical. there are still things that are immoral. and what rudy described is that behavior. and the fact he admitted he was pressuring the ukraine shows this -- i hesitate to use this word. because i'm not a lawyer. it sounds like a conspiracy. by rudy and don's people to pressure the ukrainians. a high-low game. rudy goes over to ask the questions. don makes the phone calls. >> donald, donald, donald. >> something pretty ugly. >> wee little donny. >> all right. listen, chris, chris is very fair to rudy, who was throwing
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out a lot of accusations. and then there was this. here it is. >> i'm sure they buy that everything you're saying right now has nothing to do with the distracting from what the president's problems might be. you've been doing it for over a year and a half, okay? the hell you haven't. you've been distracting from the truth for a year and a half. >> and you tried to frame the president. >> and i hope you enjoy it. this president got the benefit of something you built up for decades. your credibility. and you put it on the line. good choice. >> wow. what's your reaction to that? >> you know, i think in most of rudy's appearances when he is defending the president on something, there is usually a debate as to whether he is just sort of mad, and i don't mean angry, i mean mad. and flailing around, and there is really no strategy behind what he's saying. and or is there a method to the madness and is he setting the sage for the arguments they need
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to make as more facts come out. if you remember in the stormy daniels case, before all the facts of that case came out, rudy giuliani was on air saying if the president did x, y, and z, what's the big deal? that was before we knew he had indeed had done x, y and z. and so the clip you played before this, that seemed like the same play book. saying so what if he called the president of the ukraine and said this. so that's -- >> does that mean in your mind that he did it? >> it reminds me of the o.j. book, "if i did it." so he's either giving us a clue to the coming defense. and famous method of spin. get the facts out ahead of time. so it seems like it's old news. or he's just completely just
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freelancing and this is not anything that's strategic. it looks like the stormy case. getting ahead of what seems to be the coming story. >> okay. frank, you ready for this? this is from rudy giuliani. let's put it up. a president telling a pres-elect of a well-known corrupt country. he better investigate corruption that affects u.s. is doing his job. maybe if obama did that the biden family wouldn't have bilked millions from ukraine and billions from china. being covered up by a corrupt media. by the way, there's no evidence of that. there's no credible -- i have no idea what it means. >> this is insane. in the tweet he is seems to be confirms or suggesting that in fact what was going on is saying investigate hunter biden. right before an election in which his most fierce some
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opponent might be joe biden. rudy giuliani has sort of lost his mind here if he think she's pressing a persuasive case. i tell you, when you pull back from this and you watch that chris interview with rudy and the way he is behaving, it is perverse and inexplicable that a president who least deserves this kind of loyalty and this kind of circling of the wagons and all that gets it time and again. it's not just from rudy giuliani. he is the one making a fool of himself with chris cuomo there. bill barr protecting the president. and the justice department has a role in the not telling the house democrats what they want to know. the director of national intelligence. why are so many people willing to shelve their ethics and stick their necks out so far for this president, of all people. it's one of the greatest perversions of this chapter of history. >> there's a tear in the universe. it's not just mercury in retrograde. it's all a dream. >> when are we going wake up. >> the wrong timeline.
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president trump lawyer rudy giuliani giving a breathless contradictory and confusing defense of his boss over reports a clear whistle-blower complaint involves the ukraine. william barr facing questions after the justice department was involved in saying not to share the whistle blower's complaint.
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let's discuss now. elie honig, harry litman. good evening, gentlemen. good to see both you have. harry, i'm going to start with you because i haven't seen you in a while. president trump's lawyers really all over the place on these reports that the whistle-blower complaint involves the ukraine. did he make the situation worse? what do you think? >> i'm sorry, me? >> yes. >> so, yes. look, there are these grand constitutional arguments that they're throwing around. we have a really simple statutory scheme that has never been violated. it says the inspector general determines if you have a complaint and if you do, you transfer it over to congress. to the intelligence committee. not to everybody in the country. to the intelligence community which always looks at sensitive information and that's the basic oversight we have. now, has the president's lawyers made it worse? i do think we're coming into some sort of rough focus of
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what's happened, and it may well be some kind -- what would be wrong with this ukraine deal? basically, it would be trump trading something that belongs to the united states people, say, the $250 billion in loans for something that he wants for himself, not for the country. yeah, that would be wrong. and i think it's getting clear enough and every day there's a drip, drip, drip. i actually think it may well not play out in the courts. there maybe an accommodation and where they give the substance of this to schiff, if not the letter of it, because i think trump and company are getting clobbered every day in the news, and it just gets worse. >> interesting. eli, giuliani flip-flopped tonight on saying whether he investigated joe biden. it is not the first time he's gone against his own words. here he is talking about the stormy daniels payment and then contradicted himself the very next morning. watch this. >> having something to do with paying some stormy daniels woman. 130,000?
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which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. that money was not campaign money. sorry, i'm giving you a fact that you don't know. it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. >> so they funneled it through a law firm? >> funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. >> oh, i didn't know. he did? >> he didn't know the details of this until we knew the details of it, which is a couple of weeks ago. maybe not even a couple. maybe ten days ago. >> oh. is there a method to this madness? >> i don't know. rudy tonight had like a jack nicholson colonel jessup moment. you're damn right i ordered. the second time, yes i did. it's the rudy three-step. it's step one, deny it. step two, admit it, and step three, yeah, it happened but it was okay. what's wrong with it? we saw all three steps tonight.
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it's terrible lawyering. it's a shame to see from rudy giuliani. he was the attorney for the southern district of new york. he was a legend. now he's a joke. >> you said legally. is it a good pr strategy. something good and bad and something good. >> no, yes, no. >> i don't know. i'm not going to say it's a good strategy. i know it worked. it worked with stormy daniels. he fell through the cracks. aided by the doj policy against indicting a sitting president. because it worked once doesn't make it a good strategy. young potential lawyers and law school students at home, don't do this at home. >> don't try this on your own, is what you're saying? >> yeah. >> the attorney general under fire for advising the acting chief not to share this whistle-blower complaint. you backed barr when he was originally appointed attorney general but took great issue with how he handled the mueller report. is this another example of barr
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acting as the president's personal attorney? >> yeah, i got to say, he's gone over to maybe not the other size, but trump's personal side. so for something like this, who are you going to call? bill barr, because they'll call on the olc to produce some kind of tenuous opinion that will at least buy time. i do think it's of apiece. normally -- i wouldn't say normally. universally the doj wouldn't be involved here. probably the white house had something to do with pushing the dni to get the opinion and arm them with something at least plausible they can point to. and yes, sad to say, that basic m.o., go to bill barr's justice department. get something you can say however outrageous about the executive power to at least freeze the linebackers. we've seen that before, and this doesn't seem different, given that the statutory scheme is so clear here and there is really
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no valid defense, nor has there ever been any kind of attempt to resist this. >> i got to run. that's got to be the last word. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. >> thank you. justin trudeau. black face. once, twice, three times? maybe more.
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the canadian prime minister justin trudeau under fire as more images of him in black face and brown face rock his reelection campaign. trudeau apologized when the first photograph surfaced showing his face and hands
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covered in dark makeup in 2001. similar photograph emerged from his time in high school. appearance in black face he admitted to last night. wearing dark make up and singing day-o as part of a talent show. now a third instance has uncovered video of him in black face from the early 1990s. trudeau says he doesn't know how many times he has worn black face in his life. let's discuss now. gentlemen, good evening. thank you both for joining. last night trudeau said there was only one other instance of him in black face, but we have now seen a third. listen to his follow-up apology today and then we'll talk. >> this is something that i deeply, deeply regret. darkening your face regardless of the context of the circumstances is always unacceptable because of the racist history of black face. >> he seemed up front about a
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right away and contrite. does that new video discredit him? what do you think of that? >> i don't think it discredits him. wearing black face once is a one time too many. for those wondering what to wear as a costume in october, do not wear black face. thank you for coming to my ted talk. that was free. listen, this is a history of black face, brown face. yellow face has been used to dehumanize and ridicule and mock the other. that's what people need to understand. it's not us being politically correct or placing the race card. being reactionary. no. there is a history here of using this makeup to dehumanize people of color in america and canada. i'll give you an example. "birth of a nation" 1950. a movie a phenomenon. a racist movie that brought back the klan. used black face. look at the depiction of african americans. so when trudeau a grown man
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wears black face at age 30. at as a teacher and age 21. im old enough to remember i was 20. in 2001 at uc berkeley. even then i knew wearing black face and brown face was a bad idea. what i really want from him i appreciate the contrition. i appreciate his apology. the question we should be asking, why did he not know it was wrong and how come nobody else told him? that the answer to that question will bring this to a conversation the country doesn't want. systemic racism. >> tim, you know why, i'm sure. go on. take it away. >> well, i don't believe that he didn't know it was wrong. i think the bigger problem with these incidents is that it's not just sometimes overt racism. sometimes it is. we see these incidents on college campuses for example where folks have ghetto parties on mlk day and they put on black face. that's pretty blatant. there is no subtlety there.
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i don't think that's what he's guilty of. what they are about is white folks whether it's in canada, the u.s. or europe where these things have also happened who have so little regard for the life experiences and the history facing black and brown folks that they sort of know it's wrong. they know it's more than just transgressive. they know it's more than edgy. they know it's offensive. at the end of the day they go yeah, but it's halloween. it's a party. here's the message that i think folks need to understand. it's one i understood by the time i was five. maybe my parents are better than some parents. the lesson is this, blackness is not a costume. indigenous americans, they're not characters to be played either. you don't put on someone's hair or make up. or skin color as a costume. these are people with lived experiences and whether you are doing it to intentionally denigrate or you're doing it because you the privilege of being stone-cold ignorant to the reality of other people's lives
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and still be called educated, whichever one of those is a problem. we've got to do better. i mean, the contrition is necessary. we as a culture better ask why it is that white folks in north america and around the world are allowed to be this stupid. and still be considered leaders, still be considered intelligent. still be considered educated enough to graduate high school, let alone college. it's unbelievable to me. >> you both mentioned contrition. you can appreciate the contrition, which i said last night, and also condemn the act. which i said last night. but conservative media taking out of context. just saying that i praised him. what i was saying is it's actually refreshing to hear someone apologize when they did something wrong because that never happens here lately in the united states. but also condemn what justin trudeau did at the same time. and he did acknowledge, which many people don't, his white privilege. he didn't make excuses for it, but does that really change
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anything? >> no. and he admitted his privilege, but it reflects also that ignorance itself is a privilege. he didn't know he said. you have to take it further. this is an election year. we see the rise of white nationalism. in north america and europe. if you want to tackle this we have to have a conversation ? this country about something we never talk about. ready? white supremacy. until you get to the systemic racism that causes this to occur again and again. and worldly intelligent people. like justin trudeau, a liberal, who wears black face as a grown man and he doesn't understand why this is harmful, this will keep happening. this is the conversation the country needs. we have to tackle truth. it will be uncomfortable. >> i have to go. but can you just please, talk about your daughter has liver cancer. is in need of a donor. how, if you don't mind talking about it, how is that going, the search and how is she doing?
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>> yeah, thank you so much for asking. my warrior princess was turned free. she was diagnosed with liver cancer in april. it only affects 1% of kids, it's so rare. she finished her ninth chemo. she's a brave warrior. she is recovered since the last chemo. she's doing well. we're searching for a match. over 500 people have applied to be liver donors. thank you to the cnn family. i want to tell everyone watching, i never asked anyone at cnn. but all the hosts and producers went out of their way, even your producers to say how can we help? how is she doing? we're rooting for her. let's hope if you send hopes and prayers. i believe in god. we'll take all the prayers. she is looking for one match, just one match right now. let's hope she gets a liver donor. >> we commute. we text. we mail. you didn't even tell me. >> i did not. >> you owe me a text. >> i have been busy. >> black face, cancer. rudy giuliani. this is america. >> i have to run. we wish you the best. anything we can do.
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a major democratic donor is facing a host of charges and many people wonder why it didn't come sooner. stephanie elam has the story. >> we had so many nay sayers tell us we would never see this day. puck would never be arrested. and this is just a small step towards victory for my brother, for timothy dean. >> reporter: wearing a blue suicide prevention smock, ed
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buck, a well-known democratic donor, stood in court to face charges brought by the los angeles county district attorney's office, including felony battery. administering methamphetamine and maintaining a drug house. narcotics paraphernalia found inside his apartment, including meth and 24 hypodermic needles, officials say. but buck is now in federal custody, charged with providing methamphetamine that led to a man's death. the federal law is offering tougher sentences. the los angeles d.a. says a 37-year-old man was given a large dose of methamphetamine in buck's apartment in early september. fearing he was overdosing, the man, who was living with buck at the time, left to get medical attention. but on september 11th, he received two more large doses of meth, also allegedly administered by buck. the man eventually fled to a nearby gas station and called 911. the man did overdose, but survived. >> the surviving victim's
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statements gave us the break we needed. it gave legally sufficient evidence to establish the charged crimes and prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. in state court. >> we will fight this case vigorously, but i'm not so sure legitimately there was ever enough evidence to ever cause this case to be filed until recently. >> arrest ed buck! >> reporter: the outrage surrounding ed buck has been boiling for years, after two men died in his apartment in similar circumstances in less than 18 months. on july 27th, 2017, jamel moore was found dead of an accidental meth overdose. but the d.a.'s office declined to press charges. timothy dean also died in buck's apartment. on january 7th of this year. also of an accidental meth overdose. while it is moore's death that is the crux of the federal charges against buck, today the u.s. attorney revealed there are many more men that say they were
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victimized by him. >> investigators have located ten additional victims. nine of whom said mr. buck administered drugs to them or strongly encouraged them to ingest narcotics as parts of agreements to be compensated for sexual services. >> reporter: handcuffed and slumped over in the back of a police cruiser, buck was taken away outside of his west hollywood apartment tuesday. it's a likingly different posture for the lgbtq activist and prominent donor who has contributed more than $120,000 to democratic heavy weighs since the early '90s. that's according to the center for responsive politics. >> for the past two years and 53 days, we had a lot of people telling us that nothing was ever going to happen to ed buck, because he was this white, gay man who had a lot of money and a lot of influence in los angeles. >> reporter: it's a sentiment others have long held, that buck's power and privilege had kept him safe. but the d.a. pushes back on that. >> we have done and we will continue to do everything
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legally possible to put this depraved sexual predator away. >> reporter: if convicted, buck faces up to life in prison. also outstanding is the wrongful death lawsuit filed by moore's mother against buck in february. don? >> stephanie, thank you so much. and thank you for watching. our coverage continues.
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