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off of their players. in a statement the ncaa is slamming this law for quote creating confusion. the ncaa says it's looking into next steps. what will those be? we do not know. the new rules will take effect in 2023 if they survivor the expected legal challenge. thank you so much for watching. erin burnett outfront starts now. breaking news, rudy giuliani slapped with a subpoena ordered to hand over documents central to the impeachment investigation. will the president's personal attorney actually cooperate. trump's add visors warning the president it's likely he will be impeached. this as frustration grows with trump's obsession with a conspiracy theory. democrats under pressure tonight. is the impeachment push putting their jobs in jed opardy? let's go outfront. good evening. i'm poppy harlow.
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rudy giuliani has been subpoenasubpoen subpoenaed. house democrats announcing they have subpoenaed the president's person attorney for those documents related to ukraine. rudy giuliani is at the center of the impeachment investigation mentioned 31 times described as a central figure in efforts to pressure ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election. there's growing questions tonight about another member of the president's inner circle. cnn is learning the secretary of state, mike pompeo, was on that july 25th phone call when the president asked ukraine's president to dig up dirt on joe biden. this comes as president trump says he's trying to uncover the identity of the whistle-blower. >> do you know who the whistle-blower is sir? >> we're trying to find out about a whistle-blower. when you have a whistle-blower that reports things that were incorrect. >> here is how an attorney for the whistle-blower is responding
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tonight tweeting quote, the intel community whistle-blower is entitled to anonymity, law and policy support this and the individual will not be retaliated against. doing so is a violation of federal law. let's not forget the president's oin acting director of national intelligence said such threats are out of line. >> the inspector general is properly protecting the complaintants identity and will not permit them to be subject to retaliation. >> this is a president that is lashing out as the impeachment pressure mounts throwing every defense against the wall to see what sticks tweeting more than a dozen times over the last 24 hours suggesting adam schiff be investigated and arrested for treason and warning of a civil war like fracture if he's impeached. let's begin with this.
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what more are you learning about the subpoena from democrats to rudy giuliani? >> reporter: democrats are pushing here on capitol hill demanding the documents by october 15th. everything that occurred that rudy giuliani may have had possession of from the beginning of the trump administration until now and just moments ago, rudy giuliani responded to the subpoena tweeting he will give it appropriate consideration but saying this raises significant issues citing attorney-client privilege. we'll see if he complies. democrats are warning if they do not get compliance it will add evidence to their push that the trump administration at the white house, the president himself is seeking to obstruct congress on this and other fronts. this comes in the aftermath of several efforts by this newly formed investigative impeachment effort to try to get more documents, including the subpoenas that came out late last week to the state department for documents related to this ukraine matter as well
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as scheduled deposition including the president's former envoy to ukraine. kurf -- kurt volker is sdeded to come. also to get the whistle-blower to come before congress. mark warner is raising serious concerns about the president's efforts saying the president's attack could have a chilling effect and said he is concerned about the whistle-blower's safety. democrats believe they want to push and get this investigation done. >> there's a reason there's a whistle-blower statute and the reason they are protected in this country. thank you for that reporting. let's talk about it with andre carson. he's a member of the int intelligence committee. it's your committee behind the
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subpoena. the president has cited executive privilege to shield documents from making their way to congress. do you expect something to be different this time. do you expect rudy giuliani to fully cooperate and hand over all those documents? >> well, as a former prosecutor and a lawyer, i would expect for mr. rudy giuliani to understand this process. i would hope he would act in a cooperative manner. if he's someone who is truly concerned about the preservation of our democracy and upholding our rights of congress he should be willing to cooperate. >> on friday he said your committee is not legitimate and it's a sad joke and then he said this just yesterday on abc's this week when directly asked will he cooperate. >> will you cooperate with the house intelligence committee? >> i wouldn't cooperate with adam schiff. i think adam schiff should be removed. >> that's your answer. you're not going to cooperate. >> i didn't say that. i said i will consider it.
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>> he did say that but given that rudy giuliani might tell you at this point, that the sky is not blue. how do you measure the value of what he says to you guys and what turns over to your committee? >> well, rudy giuliani has a reputation of being a smart man or he had a reputation of being a smart man. it seems more clear that he's impressionab impressionable. he's been hanging around donald trump so he's flip-flopping just like the president. my hope is mr. rudy giuliani will cooperate with the committee and understand that chairman schiff is an accomplished leader, a fellow prosecutor. i think this is his time to preserve what's left of his reputation and work in a cooperative manner with those of us on the intel committee. >> you sound very hopeful, a that he will cooperate an b, he will be forthcoming with you. i wonder seeing how the cory
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lewandowski went, if it would be more prudent to question rudy giuliani in private. >> it doesn't matter at this point. i think that the whole trump administration has become a circus. if you give them more cameras, you'll get more theatrics. we need to get to the facts. the intel committee has been known to be disciplined, matter of fact. we have a very talented staff of attorneys and former members of the intelligence community and so those of us who serve as representatives, we take our jobs very seriously. we take our oath very seriously. what we want to do is make sure that the identity of the whistle-blower is protected and we want to get to the bottom of this. the call is exhibit a. the complaint is exhibit b, if you will and we need a fuller
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picture of what happened and what is happening and so those who are concerned, republican and democrat, urge your representative to do the right thing and put pressure on the trump administration to cooperate. >> here is one of the few remaining democrats in the house who is not there yet on impeachment. democratic congressman jeff andrew of new jersey. he's one of the 12 left who doesn't support impeachment. he explained why. >> the odds are very high that it's not going to bear any fruit. the odds are very high that this president will continue to be the president. the people of the united states of america are going to have an election in a year. they can go ahead in the ballot box and impeach if they desire to do so. >> congressman, do you see any merit to that argument? >> well, i can't speak to his district, culture of his district, his own personal philosophical views.
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i think he's probably sensitive to one point that i can appreciate and that is we still have work to do. we can walk and chew gum at the same time. the trump administration has yet to deal with a comprehensive infrastructure bill that deals with the over 10,000 roads and bridges that have to be repaved and reconstructed. he's yet to address our educational woes in a serious manner. he's yet to address our national security concerns in a serious manner that doesn't demonize muslims and immigrants and latinos. there's much more work to do but the work at hand calls for us on the house intelligence committee to protect the whistle-blower and get to the bottom of this very serious allegation. >> let's end on the whistle-blower because your colleague, adam schiff, said he is hopeful the whistle-blower will testify before you soon. the president said today he's trying to figure whoout who the whistle-blower is. the whistle-blower's attorney said the attacks and what has
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been said are putting their client in danger. what's your read? >> well, we're going to do whatever we can to make sure that the identity of the whistle-blower is protected. we're working with dni director maguire to make sure the attorneys get the proper clearances so that justice is served. i would hope this president does not act in a way that is reminiscent of a problem figure. if he sees himself as such, he will be dealt with as such. >> what does that mean? >> if he wants to be gangster then we'll have to upholds the law and treat him like a gangster. >> what that mean you'll do? >> we're doing what we're doing. inn ve investigating, issuing more subpoenas. making sure he doesn't act like a gangster and use the seat of the presidency to intimidate
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foreign leaders, to continuely pollute all the agencies and create this toxic work environment where people are afraid to come forward with whistle-blower complaints and members of the cabinet administration as well are afraid to even challenge the president. that's a mob mentality and those are certainly traits of tyrant. >> we appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> thank you. next, cnn has learned the president's advisers are warning him he's likely to be impeached. is the president listening? reporting bill barr held private meetings overseas in other words to discredit america's own intelligence agencies when it comes to russian interference. brand new polls shows more than americans in favor of impeachment and there's a sharp rise among one group of voters. one you might not expect, next. saturdays happen.
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breaking news. white house aides are warning the president he faces a real likelihood of being impeached. president's allies are growing concerned that he doesn't understand the gravity of this investigation and how quickly it is moving. multiple sources close to the white house tells cnn tonight that the president is resisting help convinced he doesn't need a formal team to handle impeachment. what is the white house strategy as this thing ramps up? >> reporter: so far you have seen the president counter attack on twitter and send the republican lawmakers on tv to demends him. there's people inside the white house questioning just how long that strategy is going to work. if you watch the president's ally who is were on television yesterday a lot of people didn't feel like they did anything to tamp down the criticism of the president's with the ukrainian president. he's also hearing from people
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that his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, isn't doing him any favors with his slew appearances either but the president said he doesn't want to hire any additional attorneys right now because he believes if he does either of those thing, form that impeachment response team or hire more lawyers, he said it's going to make him look weak in this fight with democrats. people inside the white house are wondering what their exact strategy is going to be. they are looking at the calendar noting it's been six days since the house speaker nancy pelosi launched this inquiry and they feel like they have squaunnder their opportunity to shape public opinion. the president has been more focussed on questioning the identity of the whistle-blower than he does seem to be on a defense strategy for impeachment. >> there you go. thank you very much for that reporting.
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good evening. david, let me begin with you. before we get to the white house strategy or non-strategy, the breaking news tonight that the secretary of state mike pompeo was on that july 25th phone call between president trump and the president of ukraine. what does that tell you? >> it's been a head spinning day, hasn't it? >> it's only monday. >> only monday. that tells us that the white house still isn't playing it straight. it had ample opportunities to make it clear that pom pap opeon the call. it was a routine call. now it looks extremely suspicious they were trying to hide it. that comes on top of other breaking news stories today
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which only makes suspicions and the sense of corruption get worse. i don't care what communication strategy you adopt but when the facts spin out of your control, the communication strategy doesn't work anymore. >> let's look at the communication strategy that appears to exist right now from the president's allies on the various sunday shows. thank goodness for good journalists and good journalism fact checking them in realtime but here is a peek at what we saw. >> i know the difference between a whistle-blower and a deep state operative. this is deep state operative pure and simple. he had no first hand knowledge. he heard something from someone who may have heard something from someone. >> his sources were inside. >> he has no first hand knowledge and he has a political bias. >> this seems like a political set up. it's all hearsay. you can't get a parking ticket conviction based on hearsay. >> i mean, jake had to read to him from the ig letter to the acting dni pointing that the
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point about political bias that jim jordan was not based in facted given the assessment. is this the strategy? >> so far it looks that way. this is the interesting thing in the first few days of this when the whistle-blower complaint came out and when the white house released the transcript when the house announced impeachment, there was talk about the formation of a war room at the white house and some sort of active team to combat any reporting that might emerge about this but in the days that followed we learned that's not really happened. we saw a lot of the president's allies really going out there and hammering a cup ouple of points. namely the fact they say the whistle-blower complaint was based off of secondhand knowledge and no explicit quid pro quo in the transcript to alludes to any kind of misconduct by the president. when i speak to white house
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officials and a lot of lawyers at the white house, some of them who have left, it's interesting to hear and i'm talking about from republicans now that they really do see a problem here developing. it's not about a quid pro quo, a lot of them tell me. a lot of them agree maybe there there's a blatant abuse of executive privilege and power here. that's what a lot of his allies see at the potential downfall here. >> you've pointed out how the supreme court defines a quid pro quo. it's not an explicit statement but given your experience with ken star's team, is this a prudent strategy not to form a war room around this because you will look weak ? >> it's a different strategy. to be fair to president trump, he's broken a lot of rules and gotten away with it so far. if i were counselling him, i would say classic answer to this
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type of problem is tell the truth, tell it as quickly as you can and tell all of it as quickly as you can. his counter punch strategy is the exact opposite of that. he is digging himself a hole. >> david, the president when asked if he knows the identity it have whistle-blower, listen to his reaction. >> mr. president, do you know who the whistle-blower is, sir? >> well we're trying to find out about a whistle-blower. when you have a whistle-blower that reports things that were n incorrect. >> he's already attacked the whistle-blower calling him a partisan, et cetera without knowing the identity. that aside, the fact he made that statement, i deserve to meet my accuser. should that more than raise eyebrows for people coming from the president of the united states? >> we're so far down this path of so many things that are just beyond belief. in saying we're looking for the identity the whistle-blower, the
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president is disregarding what the law is intended to do. the whistle-blower law is intended to provide protection against these kind of assaults, against these kinds of investigations. otherwise you'll put a chill and you'll never have anymore whistle-blowers keep the government straight and keep malfeasance out of the government. it's really, really important. we have now reached state of not only is the president chasing after the whistle-blower but he's said, this guy has committed treason and he's opening the door and giving license to people who carry guns, in a gun invefested cultu who feel they are justified in taking out this traitor. i think the whole thing is bizarre and reflects badly on the president. he definite flieneeds somebody there. he need a grown up in there who he will listen to. >> i hear you.
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the president's staunchest defenders are latching onto one sentence in the ig's letter in august back to the acting dni. let me read this to you. quote, although the the preliminary review identified some indicia of an arguable political bias, it did not change my determination that the complaint appears credible. grasping at straws or is there more there? >> it could be he favored john mccain who is a political rifle of the president. it's not clear it's a democratic political rival. more to the point, the reason that you challenge a person's bias is to assess their credibili credibility. this whistle-blower's credibility has been proven completely true given that he predicted for us the entire content of the call with
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president zelensky as well as the memorandum of the conversation had been moved to a code word server. the allegations of bias is immaterial given how much collaboration there's been. >> thank you all very much. >> can i add one thing? >> the attorney general of the united states has been globe trotting. >> that's next. >> the president of the united states made a phone call to the australian prime minister to seek help for the attorney general of the yieunited states. >> we have the reporter who broke that next. we'll talk about it. i promise. thank you so much. next, attorney general bill barr, there you have it, reportedly asking foreign countries to back the president's conspiracy theory about the russia investigation. >> how come it started?
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this comes as cnn learned australia's prime minister in a recent phone call to help the attorney general with that investigation. outfront now one of the reporters who broke that story. good evening opinion important reporting. what more can you tell me about the meetings barr had overseas as recently as last week. >> he was meeting with italian intelligence officials last week in italy. he met with british officials. the essence is he is introducing them to the prosecutor who is investigating the origins of the probe. be way this is being perceived is bill barr trying to get foreign officials to sort of buy in to theory that the president has about the corrupt origins of the russia probe. that is kind of where this investigation is heading. it's quite unusual, according to officials we talked to for the attorney general to be involved in an investigation where there's already a very seasoned and respected prosecutor heading
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it up. >> let me ask you this because department of justice officials tells cnn it is appropriate for the attorney general and even the president to seek help from foreign countries in an investigation looking at election interference in the 2016 election. you are talking to national security expert who is as who ad by what barr is doing. >> while it technically may be true if there's a legitimate investigation that's open, the attorney general can be overseaing that but there seems to be from people on the receiving end a clear, political agenda to this. they are reading this as trying to validate the president's long held suspicions that this russia probe had a corrupt origin or was some work of deep state conspiracy in the u.s. government. the mueller investigation found what the origins of the probe were and they were nothing like that. >> it's important reporting. i urge every one to read it. thank you so much.
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>> thanks. now, the former director of national intelligence under president obama, james clapper. it's very nice to have you here. the white house is defending the president's call with the australian prime minister saying in a statement in part tonight, quote, this call relates to a doj inquiry publicly announced months ago to uncover exactly what happened. the doj simply requested the president provide introduks to facilitate that ongoing inquiry and he sdoidid so, that's all. is that all or is it inappropriate? >> i don't think the foreign governments in question, particularly the australians have any doubts about what the real purpose here. it's another illustration of extraordinary lengths this administration and the attorney general as a point man, the lengths they are going to to try to discredit the original reporting on the russia interference and presumably any
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connections between the russians and the trump campaign. >> the extent they are going to discredit the entirety of the u.s. intelligence community on this. i want to get you on a few other points. the trump administration imposed these sanctions on putin's key ally. this is for attempting to influence a 2018 mid term elections. here is what the treasury secretary said, quote, the administration will work tirelessly to safeguard our electoral process and will aggressively pursue any other fo foreign actor. in this meeting, the russians in 2017, the president said he was unconcerned with the russians interference in the 2016 election. given that, what's your confidence of the 2020 election will be free of meddling?
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>> first, i thought sanctions on the russian, that's a good thing. i do wonder about the timing. ten months after the mid terms. i couldn't help but reflect on the criticism the obama administration took for add ministering sanctions on the 29th of december after the election on the 8th of november of 2016. any way, it's a good thing. i don't know if this was meant to counter act reporting on russians or the president's rather cavalier dismissal of russian interference on the election. i don't know. i think a lot was done in 2018 and probably more will be done in 2020, in spite of, not because of the president's leadership. >> today we heard from former national security adviser john bolton. he was speaking at an event in washington, d.c. he slammed the president's strategy on north korea. we know they have never seen eye
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to eye on some key foreign policy moves, but the president has repeatedly been pointing to no nuclear tests as a sign of success with kim jong-un. here's a few time the president made that argument. >> for three years there's been no nuclear testing. >> there's been no nuclear testing for a long time. a long time. >> i say it again, there's been no nuclear tests. the missile tests have all been short range. >> here is john bolton's read of that. >> north korea has in its judgment for well or ill finished testing and can produce nuclear warheads and long range ballistic missiles. that's not an encouraging sign. that's a sign to be rworried about. >> is he right? >> yes he is. for once i agree with mr. bolton plp there there's no way they will
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denuclearize. it was made clear to me when i engaged with them five years ago and that hasn't changed a bit. i think he's exactly right. i also agree with him that the reason for the moderation in the north korean behavior is nothing to do with what we have been doing or saying or the summits or the love ins and all that. it's much more to do with the fact the north koreans achieved whatever it is they think they needed to achieve in order to have nuclear deterrents. they don't have to test anymore because they have achieved that. >> that's a pretty scary thought. thank you for your expertise. we appreciate it. >> thanks. ahead, a new cnn poll finds support for impeachment is on the rise. you may be surprised to learn where some of that boost is coming from. the dilemma facing democrats who won republican districts in 2018. do they play it safe or not. >> at a certain point you have to stand up for what you believe
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tonight, more americans are in favor of impeachment. a new cnn poll finds 47% of mem americans of should be impeached. those numbers were 41 and 54%
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respecti respectively. you're seeing a shift among republicans and independents from may. there's an 11% increase in support for impeachment among dependents and 8% among republicans. o outfront now rick santorum. the point that struck me most reading through this poll is the increase in the younger republicans who supported impeachment. 22% of republicans under the age of 50,000 support impeachment. that's up from 9% in may. does that concern you? >> i think it should concern the president. this isn't a good story as much as the white house would like to spin it that it is. i think it's bad story for the president. it's a bad story for joe biden. i think it hurts both of them. it may be terminal for joe biden but it's not good for the president either. i think when you see this story, i think younger people will be affected more.
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they tend to be more idealistic. >> i think they are turned off more. >> careful who you call old on this show. >> referring about me. >> you just heard the senator say this could be terminal for joe biden. zero evidence of any wrong doing by joe biden or hunter biden at this point in time. do you think binden should be responding more forcefully. we heard him say i'm not going to entertain this because there's no there there. he could write his own story instead of letting the president write it for him. >> i think he will have to answer more questions. i think he's doing the right thing now. it's smart to be dismissing this because there's no factual evidence to back up the conspiracy theory. there's a reason why these numbers have changed. this is an easy story to
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understand. for american people to see the transcript and the whistle-blower account and see how they match. they understand what this president did was an egregious abuse of power. it put in darng nger of our natl security. it was a trail of the oath of office. >> senator, to that point, jeff flake, has a new op ed in the washington post. he's urging republicans not sfort the president. whether you believe the president deserves impeachment, you know he doesn't deserve re-election. our country will have more presidents but principles will get one crack. you're man who ran on principles. why is flake wrong? >> jeff flake doesn't like the president. he's been a trump foe for some time. they had fallen out.
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this is like bill crystal coming on cnn saying don't vote for the president. >> do you think he's wrong? >> i've said it repeatedly. i have a lot of problems with what the president did. he should not have brought up joe biden. i don't think there was anything going on. this is not smart politics. it's the continuation of the president acting out of control and doing things that are not presidential. that doesn't help the president. >> jeff flake notes this could help the president. he says an impeachment proceeding might benefit a president who thrives on chaos.
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is that a risk that democrats are fully enough considering? >> i think they are. they did not do this lightly. you know a lot of liberal democrats have been pushing nancy pelosi to move to this impeachment inquiry a lot quicker than they did. when did they do this? when they saw the evidence. when they saw the quid pro quo. when they saw a very abuse of power. to my friend rick santorum's point, it's going to come time for republicans to as jeff flake said, look to see if their souls are worth continuing to support this unfit president who has given the finger to the constitution. >> it's different to say something like this when you're no longer in office and you're not running again. that's when we heard him speak out. >> that's why he's not running again and he's out of office. >> thank you, both. next, a great report.
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hillary didn't win one. barack didn't win either election. not one county. >> reporter: welcome to oklahoma. ♪ a deep red state. with just one blue spot in its 5th congressional district. >> kendra! kendra! >> reporter: democrat rekendra horn beat the incumbent last year. >> we surprised a lot of people didn't. i didn't think we had a chance in oklahoma. >> reporter: fast forward a career as house democrats begin impeachment proceedings. horn is in a political pickle. 223 of horn's fellow house democrats support an impeachment inquiry against president trump but she and 11 other so-called holdouts have not done so. nearly all represent pro-trump territory. >> so grateful for -- >> reporter: democrat andy kim knows the predicament well.
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he flipped new jersey's 3rd district from red to blue last year. kim announced his support for an inquiry just last week. >> i mean, look, it's up to the american people to decide when it comes to their elections of who they want. >> reporter: back in oklahoma city, some democrats want horn to play it safe. >> would you worry about her chances for re-election? >> i would. i think she's done a good job so far, i would hate to see her lose. >> reporter: but horn also must contend with her democratic base. >> i would rather her go with the impeachment and lose her seat than worry about what happens to her position. at a certain point, you have to stand up for what you believe in. i don't think people here ever expect a democrat to win, however, the demographics are changing. anything else. in y'all need - >> will do. >> reporter: they're not changing that quickly, warn some republicans. >> i am hardcore republican. >> reporter: support for impeaching trump predicts mike monday would energize voters
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like him. >> if she wants a prayer to win this next time, i would suggest that she not vote for the impeachment. >> reporter: now, keeping my voice low here because representative horn is addressing her town hall. this is a meeting about mental health, but you heard her, poppy, addressing this right off the top. the room is packed here. certainly, she's expecting that she'll be taken questions from some of the people who've come to inquire if she has moved at all, and she's indicating right now that she's not going to be rushing into any decision. poppy? >> it's a fascinating piece. thank you so much for bringing us those voices. >> reporter: you bet. "outfront" next, jeanne moos on trump the perfectionist. >> absolutely perfect phone call. it was a perfect conversation. e a world where nothing gets in the way of doing great work. where an american icon uses the latest hr tools to stay true to the family recipe. where a music studio spends less time on hr and payroll,
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perfect, again and again make it so? here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: when was the last time you picked up the phone and had -- >> an absolutely perfect phone call. it was a perfect conversation. absolutely perfect. >> reporter: so perfect, you called other people, even your foes. >> he told me it was perfect. >> reporter: so perfect, comedians imitated you. >> it was a perfect call. >> my question is, if it was such a perfect call, why are you behaving like a bedwetter trying to hurry up and wash the sheets? >> reporter: but president trump wasn't changing his tactics. on monday, he was at it again. pleading perfection to describe his call with ukraine's president. >> the call was perfect. it was perfect. it was perfect. >> reporter: perfectly incriminating, tweeted one critic. perfect except for the do me a favor part. does he not realize that we can read the transcript? >> if this phone call is so damning, why did trump even
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release the transcript? only an idiot would do that. exactly. and also -- >> reporter: why stop at perfection? >> it was a beautiful, warm, nice conversation. it was actually a beautiful conversation. >> reporter: a beautiful phone conversation is sort of an extension of the beautiful letters president trump always says he gets. >> a very beautiful letter from president xi. he just wrote me a beautiful letter. >> reporter: from china's president, in fronorth korea's leader. >> he wrote me beautiful letters. we fell in love. >> reporter: unlike these beautiful letters we actually got to read the beautiful phone call summary. >> he didn't even know that it was wrong. saying it was perfect. >> reporter: how perfect? >> it was absolutely a 10, it was perfect. >> a 10? why are you talking about a phone call like you're creeping on women at the beach? >> reporter: there's nothing like a threat of impeachment to turn a president into a perfectionist. >> you take a look at that call, it was perfect. >> reporter: jeanne moos -- >> absolutely perfect.
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>> reporter: cnn -- >> my call was perfect. >> reporter: -- new york. >> no one does it quite like jeanne. thanks for a perfect evening. thanks for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. there's new reporti ining tonign nearly every aspect of the impeachment inquiry cliincludin cnn polling that shows a shift in the question of impeachment, itself, done before a whole string of developments including enough late today to fill a week's worth of broadcasts. just about 90 minutes ago the sbem intelligence community inspector general refuted a key republican talking point on the whistle-blower complaint saying, yes, the whistle-blower had, quote, direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct. in other words, it was not just hearsay, as the president's defenders have been saying. the inspector general who, by the way, was appointed by president trump, is the person who initially investigated the whistle-blower's complaint and determined it should be seen by congress. and according to new cnn reporting, secretary of state
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