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certain information out of the state department, classified information, and he's doing that. >> this is we want to welcome our viewers all around the world and the united states. it is 6:00 here in new york and once again, a lot has happened overnight. >> get ready to say that the next few days. >> we've been saying that every day and it is warranted. today we begin with several big developments in the impeachment inquiry into president trump. here's what we've learned in just the last several hours. the state department's inspector general is asking for a, quote, urgent briefing today. one congressional aid says the report is highly unusual and cryptically worded. secretary of state mike pompeo is resists demands to turn over documents and make current and former state department officials available for questioning.
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three house chairman are warning to stop intimidating witnesses and informing the deputy that pompeo, coat, appears to have a conflict of interest. >> but despite pompeo's efforts to keep him from talking, two diplomats have agreed starting tomorrow. what is it they want to say and how hard will pompeo fight on this? we could know in just minutes. the secretary of state holds a news conference in italy shortly. we will bring that to you live. house speak will brief on later this morning. language has reached unprecedented levels, he will hold a news conference this afternoon. let's began, though, on capitol hill where this fight is centered at this moment with who and who will not be coming to speak to them soon. cnn's suzanne malveaux there.
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>> reporter: good morning. secretary pompeo is currently overseas in italy but he and his state department are the focal point for those leading this impeachment inquiry. mia mike pompeo trying to block officials from his department of talking to congress. sending a fiery letter to elliot eng l saying the deposition requests are an attempt to intimidate, bullry, and treat improperly the professionals of the state. the chairman from the three house committees accusing pompeo of intimidating department witnesses in order to protect himself and the president. warning his efforts could amount to obstruction. >> secretary pompeo is stonewalling and delaying. we aren't going to put up with
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those tactics. they will be in violation of the law if they do not comply. >> reporter: the state department's inspector general scheduling an urgent briefing with senior congressional staff. sources briefed on the matter tell cnn. no word yet on what he wants to tell them. house democrats able to break through pompeo's efforts scheduling depositions with five state department officials in the upcoming weeks. the first, kurt volker. the former u.s. special envoy to ukraine will appear tomorrow. the former diplomat in the complaint alleging he's one of the u.s. officials who provided advice on how to navigate president trump's demands. inside the white house president trump tweeting his growing frustration with the whistle-blower and his sources firing off a series of tweets asking, why aren't we entitled to interview and learn everything about the whistle-blower? trump's allies mirroring his words. >> they are creating an
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obstruction trap to hold this president on impeachment offenses. >> this is not a real impeachment. this is like a faux impeachment. >> reporter: but chuck grassley writing that the whistle-blower ought to be heard and protected. uninformed speculation is counterproductive and doesn't serve the country. and of course something to remember, volcker abruptly resigned after the release of the whistle-blower complaint and the transcript of the trump phone call. also the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine was scheduled to appear today. her testimony has now been moved to next friday. >> thank you very much for all of that background. the state department's inspector general will give an urgent matter of some kind to congressional staffers in just a few hours. what does he want to reveal? how will this impact the impeachment inquiry? all of that is next. >> i think this is the mystery of the day.
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the state department inspector general has asked for a briefing with congressional aides on a, quote, urgent matter today. this is related to the impeachment inquiry. but what is this urgent matter? joining us now is jeff zeleny and laura coates. laura, let me read for everybody what we know about this from
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manu raju and kylie atwood and our reporting. here it is. the state department's inspector general requested an urgent briefing with congressional staff members after mike pompeo pushed back on house democratic demands to turn over documents related to ukraine and to depose officials according to sources briefed on the matter. it's unclear exactly what state inspector general steve linickoops plans to provide congress during the private wednesday briefing. the inspector general said this briefing was his office had obtained documents from the acting legal adviser in the state department. you read legalese. what do you see here? >> the word urgent being used a second time is unsettling. but it leads me to talk about the letter rejecting the idea of
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the calendar and the deadlines that were imposed by members of congress about having members of the state department testify. clearly he's -- they are able to obtain documents. clearly the timeline is not so onerous to them. they're able to turn things over. and whatever it is this person is seeing in the documents led them to call congressional staffers during a congressional recess here. it's not as if they couldn't wait to have it come back. they couldn't wait until perhaps depos ran for people like kurt volker or the former ukrainian ambassador. it had to be right now. so i'm rolooking at this sayingt must be something directly related to the subpoenas about the document. and it's of such an urgent nature it could not wait for congress even to return. >> let me tell you who the state department inspector general is. he's a man named steve linick who was appointed during the obama administration. does that matter? we don't know.
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but he's known as a straight shooter. he likes to hold the state department to account. we don't know what he's going to deliver. what we do know is despite pompeo's efforts to keep from talking, he now has the state department ig going up to talk. kurt volker who was the special representative to ukraine going tomorrow to talk. and the former ambassador who has a story to tell because she was reportedly pushed out from that job in ukraine. she's going to talk next week. it seems like there's some internal pushback to mike pompeo. >> i think there is. no question about it. we are one week into this. if you take a step back and assess everything that has happened in the last week, what we are going to see in the next perhaps 12 hours or so i think will show us a lot about how this whole investigation is going to proceed. the trump administration is clearly -- and of course the secretary of state is trying to slow roll this, trying to block
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this. but there are several others proceeding pace here. democrats i talked to, senior congressional democrats still want this to move very swiftly. so they do not want to get mired in a legal dispute fighting every single thing here. but the inspector general this afternoon, when he meets with the staffers from several committees on the house side and the senate side, what he provides will be interesting in terms of going forward on this. but speaker nancy pelosi is also having a press conference this morning. i am told she is going to continue a pace here. they are not going to at least try to avoid getting locked into a legal battle with the trump administration all along the way here. but we really don't know what is going to happen in the coming hours. mike pompeo as you said, he's traveling in europe. he will be answering questions about this as well. at the end of the day, we're likely to know a lot more about how this all would proceed. as the trump administration tries to slow roll and block this, nancy pelosi is pushing ahead. >> well -- and there's the rub,
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laura. as jeff says, the democrats in the house are trying to move with lacquerty. and mike pompeo is saying they've been moving too fast. he's tweeting about this. i'm concerned with aspects of the committee's requests that can be understood as only an attempt to bully and treat improperly the distinguished professionals of the department of state. let me be clear. i will not tolerate such tactics. he's saying they haven't given him time to prepare the needed documents and get lawyers on board. is that fair? >> only a bureaucrat would say we need more red tape. i feel like i'm moving too fast right now. an idea that this ig is not somebody who has to follow mike pompeo's instructions. essentially a watch dog over the
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process. there is an issue with the process moving too quickly. it would be the inspector general to talk about whether or not there was -- the pace was too onerous for the members of the state department. but i think pompeo's larger point is he really wanted to have the council for the white house president to protect the president of the united states. not about process. more about will there be privilege, hint hint mr. president, step in. >> thank you very much. we have live pictures to show you from italy where we're about to hear from secretary of state mike pompeo. he will be speaking to us shortly. we'll bring that to you live. plus president trump wants to know why he can't interview the whistle-blower. that's next. we're reporters from the new york times.
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president trump holds a news conference this afternoon. his rhetoric on impeachment has reached unprecedented levels. and he says he should be allowed to interview the whistle-blower. we want to bring in joe lockhart. he was president clinton's team during his impeachment. the president's rhetoric here has drawn a response and probably not the response he wants from republicans. you say that's critical. why? >> well, the president's problem is never going to be democrats. democrats are going to oppose him. they're probably going to vote for impeachment. in the senate, if it's taken up for a vote, they're going to vote to impeach. his problem is always
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republicans and making sure they stay in line. it was the same issue in 1998 which is we didn't worry about what the republicans were doing. we just needed to make sure the democrats stayed with the president. spent a lot of time and effort on it. so the fact that there are republicans now like senator grassley who is directly criticizing the president on the whistle-blower issue is significant. >> let me read you what chuck grassley said. ought to be heard out and protected. whether it comes the distinction being drawn, it's not part of whistle-blower protection law or any agency policy. the bottom line here is he says the president is going too far. >> he is. this has been a particular pet issue for senator grassley. he's been a loud proponent of whistle-blower protection. so this is one of those times where loyalties to the president is trumped by a long standing belief. you haven't seen a lot of that in the last two and a half years. but what i think you're seeing
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now emerging is really a reassertion of institutional power in d.c. with the state department i girks going to the hill. pushing back on the president. the president has run a rough shot over his own administration. now you see some of that, these democratic institutions saying enough. >> but there are also polls that show that republicans, regular republicans, and even americans don't believe the president asked the president of ukraine for help with biden. it's in black and white. this is not an opinion. this is something that you can read with your own eyes. i think it's interesting to hear chuck grassley do that. it's unusual. however, republicans are still quite supportive of the president. >> well, it underlines the quandary for republicans which is if they cross the president, they are more than likely going to lose the next election.
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he has that much influence on the republican party. it's become the trump republican party. so they will more than likely lose. you know, if they side with him, they have very difficult time winning independent voters and moderate voters in their states or district. so it is a no-win situation. i think they're just going to stand back and wait. and they're going to keep their finger up to the wind. and there may come a point where it's too much and they'll decide based on their own political interests to go against them. at this point, it's thoosee wha piece of information that is. >> rudy giuliani is saying a lot of words out loud on fox tv. you can play either sound bite. it will serve my point. go ahead. >> have you never had a conversation? >> not about this, i don't think so. if i did, it was at a social -- i don't think so. i have never had a -- >> you did or didn't? >> i did not have a substantive conversation about it at all.
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>> in this instance, he is saying he doesn't know if he's spoken to william barr, period. he also says he's got texts he could turn over if he wanted to. my question is, the more we listen to rudy giuliani, it's not clear to me that his interests align with william barr's or mike pompeo's and it's not sure if any of them align we the president here. >> it's clear rudy giuliani's interests do not align with mike pompeo. he was not acting as a rogue figure here. he was doing it on behalf of the state department. because that protects him. the state department is saying, no, you weren't. and william barr gets put in here because he looked at his justice department looked at the initial ig report and said nothing to see here. so all of them are exposed. and what we know about people around trump, they'll do whatever they can to take care of themselves. not just for democrats on the hill, but journalists covering
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the story as people try to cover themselves moving forward. >> this is also why it's going to be so important to hear from volcker tomorrow. because it's important that it was kurt volker who asked giuliani to intercede. you hear again in a transcript of that phone call that zelensky wants to talk to giuliani. he says i want to talk to your guy giuliani. >> he may very well have. that's a big problem for mike pompeo and the state department. it's like one of these games where at the end of the day, someone is going to be holding the blame. and these guys are running around. >> it's the worst type of musical chairs that exists. impeachment musical chairs. >>st the going to sweep the country. >> thank you. all right. a former dallas police officer awaits sentencing after being convicted of murdering her black neighbor. how much time could she face? what will happen? we have a live report for you
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former dallas police officer amber guyger could spend the rest of her life in prison. cnn's ed lavandera is live in dallas with more. does she find out her sentence today, ed? >> reporter: it's possible she could find that out. she has spent her first night in jail after the shocking murder conviction that came down yesterday afternoon hoar in dallas. now in the sentencing phase of this case. yesterday we heard from the
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mother who detailed how her life has become a roller coaster since the murder of her son. she detailed the philanthropic and charity work that he had done here in the dallas community. she really painted a picture of just how much she misses her son. >> my life has not been the same. it's been a roller coaster. i cannot sleep. i cannot eat. it's just been the most terrible time. he died a few days before his 27th birthday. >> prosecutors also showed, alisyn, rather offensive and racially tinged text messages and social media postings. that is something that if amber guyger does take the stand at some point today in her own defense again in the sentencing
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phase, she will have to answer to. so we're not really sure yet if she is going to take the stand again. she did testify for about three hours in the evidence phase of this trial. amber guyger faces anywhere between five years and life in prison. >> you're saying the jury made a clear and fairly quick assessment here as to guilt or innocence. we will see how that plays out in sentencing. ed lavandera, thank you for your continuing reporting on this story. outside the saudi consulate where he was killed in istanbul. this is a new petition filed at the criminal court calls for an investigation into the saudi crime prince for crimes against humanity. we're live in istanbul with the latest. >> reporter: john, just a short time ago, this memorial service began here outside the saudi consulate to mark the exact hour a year allege when jamal
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khashoggi walked into that consulate to never emerge again. now, attending this ceremony are a number of his friends, some officials, activists and dissidents from the region. we've also had an unannounced appearance by the owner of "the washington post" jeff bezos. and as you mentioned, also the fiance of jamal hg khashoggi is expected to be one of the speakers. a year ago she was out here waiting for her fiance as he walked in to obtain the paperwork to allow them to get married. instead he was brutally killed and dismembered. a year later, still no sign of justice and some of these key questions of where are the remains of jamal khashoggi and who ordered the killing. as we know the cia concluded it was the crown prince mohammed bin salman who ordered the killing of khashoggi.
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something saudi arabia has continually denied. and we saw that from him himself in the interview with "60 minutes" but for the first time taking responsibility as the leader of the country. on this one-year anniversary, we're hearing renewed calls there should be a further investigation into the role of the crown prince. as you mentioned, too, washington lawyers in a petition that was obtained by cnn, these two lawyers drafted a petition on behalf of the national interest foundation that is nonprofit in washington that is critical of u.s. policy in the region calling on the international criminal courts chief prosecutor to investigate the crown prince of saudi arabia for his role here and also for other crimes against humanity. but as we have seen over the past year, despite the outrage, outcry we have seen, there's been little in terms of action to achieve justice.
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alisyn, john? >> all right. thank you very much for that update. so mike pompeo is set to speak overseas. there's the scene getting ready for him. so we will bring you that live next. motor? nope. not motor?
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all right. we are moments away from secretary of state mike pompeo speaking in rome. the state department -- well, we should let you know we'll bring you that as soon as he says anything of relevance. he might say a lot of things of relevance since his name is in the middle of what's happening with the impeachment inquiry. meanwhile the inspector general is asking for an urgent ukraine briefing on top of capitol hill today. that sounds mysterious. we don't know why or what he wants to say to these
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congressional staffers. only that it is urgent. joining us now is analyst retired admiral and former pentagon press secretary. admiral kirby, great to have you. it's described as highly unusual and cryptically worded, the request from the state department ig that he come today to speak with congressional staffers because he has an urgent matter. what do you make of this? >> well, clearly in my view it's got to have something to do with the documents in question here. i mean, remember what the committee's asked for. they subpoenaed -- they obviously wanted to depose some witnesses. but they also submitted directly to pompeo for documents related to this ukraine matter. my guess is that mr. linick has some information about those documents. i don't know what that could be. obviously we have to wait and see, but the fact he labeled it as urgent, the fact this request came right before the -- the day before ambassador volcker is
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supposed to be deposed. we'll have to wait and see. >> explain to us exactly the role of the state department inspector general. how independent is he from the secretary? and also tell us about steve linick. he was appointed by the obama administration when you were in the state department. >> he was. he's a very honest man. very hard working, very dilige t diligent. he is a very dedicated public service and takes his job extraordinarily seriously. secretary kerry had great respect for mr. linick when he was secretary of state. look. he is a completely independent operator. that's the way the inspector general system is set up. yes, he's appointed in this case appointed by president obama so it's a political appointee, but he is not beholdened to that party. he's not beholden to even the president that appointed him. he is beholden to the constitution and the roles and
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responsibilities of being an inspector general. he can be relieved of his duties by the president and he serves at the pleasure of the president. but he doesn't have to run anything by pompeo before he talks to members of the congress about this. >> so, john, tell us just from your experience obviously in the state department what of all of this -- the phone call between president trump and the ukrainian president, ambassador volker abruptly resigning, the recall of the ambassador to ukraine. what of this jumps out at you most? >> to me it speaks of -- and i hate to use the word cover-up because i know we ought to be sensitive about that. but it certainly speaks to a very concerted effort by the trump administration politically the trump side of the administration to obscure the degree to which this president tried to exert political pressure on a foreign leader to
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investigate a domestic political opponent. and to me it now especially in the last couple of days, it certainly draws the state department into this -- in a way that we just hadn't realized before. when you look at pompeo's letter. the multi-page letter to chairman engel, it's all process. there's no process in this. it's all principle. it's here's why i can't help you or as fast as you want. it's not this is not the right thing to investigate, you're wrong. he's never taken issue with that. even when he gave an evasive answer about the phone call. now we learned he was actually on the call himself. he didn't when he was talking to martha raditz. not disputing that he wasn't on the call, but evasively pulling himself out of it. saying i haven't seen the whistle-blower report. so there's just a lot of obsification going on. >> i'll let the control room look for that as i bring up the
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two figures i do believe will speak to congress over the next ten days. the first is kurt volker. the special envoy. used to be ambassador of nato. a respected person. he's talking. despite pompeo's efforts to keep people from talking, he quit last week. and he feels no compunction to listen to the secretary, apparently. what might he have to say or what's his perspective in this whole mess? >> he is also very high respected. he's an honest broker, career diplomat, a man very informed and knowledgeable about this part of the world. i don't know for a fact why he resigned. but i suspect -- it wouldn't surprise me if he resigned as quickly as he did to do this. to free himself up. to get himself out under the yolk of the state department and be able to talk to congress as a private citizen and be completely honest.
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what's he going to say? i don't know. what's going to be interesting is to see push or pull with giuliani. did he push giuliani to make these contacts? or was he pulling giuliani along trying -- or was giuliani pulling him along and sort of pushing kurt into a situation he was uncomfortable? i've seen some speculation he tried to saddle up to giuliani not because he was trying to help giuliani do work but just to keep tabs on giuliani and be informed about what conversations he was having and maybe steer those in a more constructive way. we just don't know. we're going to wait and see what he has to say. >> we have more questions for you. but stick around, please, if you would, admiral. now to this story. prince harry invoking his mother and revealing his deepest fear. so we have details for you about this update in a live report from africa next. saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol.
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all right. we are waiting to hear from secretary of state mike pompeo. you're looking at live pictures from rome. he will hold this briefing very shortly. we just don't know to what extent he will talk about what's going on in the united states right now. the impeachment inquiry that he is very much, very much in the middle of, he speaks this morning as the secretary of state but also as a potential witness in this impeachment investigation. so joining us again admiral john kirby who worked at the state department there. and john avalon. john, i want to start with you on the idea of mike pompeo, one of the president's men here. very much in the spotlight. he now, we know because of the reporting, he was on the phone call when the president leaned on the ukrainian president to dig up dirt on joe biden. we know he obfuscated.
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what do you expect to hear from him? . >> he'll probably be trying to stick to the state department line. the problem is he is in the middle of this. the push back is stunning. the language pompeo's using about intimidation and bullying is a classic example of the administration's issue to deflect. so this is a secretary of state who is caught in the growing scandal. and the fact it does not report to him is going to catch him. >> either caught or put himself there. >> yeah. i think both can be true. this is part of the problem of a cabinet that acts as enablers to the president's worst instinct to secure their own jobs. >> we're watching secretary of state mike pompeo take the podium. we are also listening in and will bring it to our viewers when he says anything of relevance. i have a basic question for you, admiral. is there anything wrong with the
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secretary of state being on the phone call in general with the ukrainian president and president trump? is the secretary of state often listening in on phone calls generally in the administration when you worked for phone calls like that between leaders? >> it varies from president to president and call to call. i don't know how many times secretary kerry was on the phone when president trump made a call. i know he was -- that it happened from time to time depending on the importance of the call and the leader in question and what was going on. with or in that particular nation. so i'm not particularly troubled by the fact that he was on this call with ukraine. it is not uncommon for secretary of state to once in awhile to listen in. what's really strange is the way he has tried to sort of cover up the fact that he actually did participate or not be completely honest about that. that tells you -- to me that's a red flag that clearly there were concerns about this call that even he might be uncomfortable with. >> i think we had that moment
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with martha raddix. if this was a common practice in the state department where sometimes the secretary of state listens in on these calls, then why this answer? listen to this moment. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> so you just gave me a report about a whistle-blower complaint, none of which i've seen. >> it gets weirder each time you listen to it, actually, admiral. >> her question was what do you know about these conversations? not hey, what do you know about the whistle-blower complaint. he just deflected and spun which is a tactic certainly in my former profession i'm familiar with. if you don't like the question, you provide a different kind of answer. he clearly didn't want to go there. >> but again, why isn't the answer, yes, i was on that phone call. i'm routinely on those phone calls. >> i suspect it's because he knows how serious this call is and he knows the voracity.
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which was there was pressure put by trump on president zelensky. that's why he was trying to spin himself out of that. >> the answer is self evident. he was trying. it's not like the secretary of state wasn't aware of the issue. he didn't want to deal with it because he knows there's trouble there. >> it's a dishonest answer. pure and simple. the answer to the question is what do you know about this call? i know a lot because i listened to the whole damn thing. that's the honest answer. what he did was obfuscate there. it's interesting to hear that. and once again, that is why he finds himself in the middle of this investigation. a potential fact witness to this investigation. admiral kirby, congress did something interesting yesterday. they wrote a letter to the deputy secretary of state saying, you know what? he's got a conflict of interest
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here and you might have to deal with this. >> interesting they went right to john vul van not going through pompeo which is itself just a message of how strongly they think he is no longer credible in terms of a conduit to the state department because of this perceived conflict of interest. i'm not a lawyer, so i don't know whether to the degree there is technically a conflict of interest here. he is the secretary of state, so he is the agent responsible for providing these documents and for making available these witnesses. but clearly they're making a very strong statement that because of his participation on the call, because he hasn't been honest about that, that he does have potential conflicts of interest here. we'll have to see how that plays out. >> admiral, kirby, i have another basic question. because kurt volker tomorrow is going to be deposed on capitol hill. he resigned abruptly as the special envoy to ukraine. he is mentioned repeatedly in the whistle-blower complaint and that phone call between the president of ukraine and president trump.
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he is the person who connected rudy giuliani with zelensky's adviser. and he's the executive director at asu of the mccain institute. so is there anything wrong with him connecting president zelensky's adviser with rudy giuliani since we heard president zelensky on the phone call with president trump say that's what he wanted to do, what he wanted to have happen? >> so there's a lot there, alisyn. we don't know how much pressure he felt by the white house. and whether he did it begrudgingly. maybe he was ordered to do it. we don't know how much context volker had about these connections and what giuliani was trying to do. i'm sure he understood the element he was trying to dig up dirt on biden. how much did volker really know? it's troubling when i see a career foreign service officer, a man like him known for
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integrity help facilitate these conversations. but that's why we need to see exactly what he's going to si about the context around that. and back to what i said about whether or not he was pushing giuliani to do this or whether he was simply trying to pull information from giuliani so that to keep giuliani from causing more damage than he might have already have done. so it's really about the context here. it is troubling that the connections were made, but i think we need to know a lot more about how -- what kind of pressure volcker was under and what exactly was the nature of the communication. >> that's right. i think volker being the director of the mccain institute is a representative of folks trying to work in this administration trying to make sure the national interest is pursued. the problem is they keep running into the winds of the president's self-interest. you're going to deal with the president's lawyer who's been inserted in the ukraine, who has context in ukraine going back.
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and when this came up will tell the truth fully when he comes and testifies. >> the issue isn't the what. it's not the conversation between giuliani and zelensky, it's the why. and there's all kinds of reporting over the last few months that zelensky wanted to talk to giuliani to figure out what the heck it was that giuliani kept saying. and then there's reporting that volker wanted to -- and he wanted to figure out a way to contain it according to some of the reporting there. so it's -- again, it's not the what. it's the why. and we'll see how much of that volker answers tomorrow. >> sort of. except it's behind closed doors. >> but congress will see. >> they will. >> we may not get the answers. >> congress will see. we should note mike pompeo now is giving an opening statement.
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he will take a couple of questions. who gets to ask those questions? will they be about italian domestic policy? or will they be about the impeachment investigation? we just don't know. >> okay. so should we press on? do we have more time to talk to -- i have a million questions. >> we're taking it all the way to the top of the hour. >> how much time do i have? >> all right. here's my next question. marine yoe van vich who will also be deposed next week, she was the ambassador recalled under curious circumstances. she became the u.s. ambassador to the ukraine in 2016. she called the ukrainian government to fight. admiral kirby, what you hear zelensky say in that is he felt she supported the president that he ran against, his predecessor and she was not a fan of his. that's why he didn't like her.
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what do you know? >> well, all we've heard is zelensky didn't have many direct relations with her at all. that he was surmising this from what people were telling him. some of his own political allies and maybe even some people in the trump administration. so we're not really sure how much zelensky knew or could prove that she was operating against him. but i can tell you, i've worked with her when she was at the state department. again, a woman of tremendous integrity, vast knowledge of the region. certainly was the right person to send over there because she just had so much experience in that part of the world. and i would be shock ed other than pursuing national security interest over there just wasn't her style. i don't buy the argument that she was supporting one candidate over the other. we were very religious in the obama administration about never getting involved in domestic politics whatsoever. i don't find any validity there
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based on my experience with her. >> that's really helpful. >> secretary of state mike pompeo is taking questions right now. let's reset top of the hour, bring you more of this news conference in just a second. >> all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." secretary of state mike pompeo taking questions in rome. let's listen in. >> translator: the u.s. attempt to support italy's approach when it comes to ending the violence and to promote a cease-fire. which do you intend to work with and how? >> so we had extensive discussions today. we had had them as well about libya. our mission set is similar. we -- >> we'll hear from him as well. we will come back to this if and when the secretary faces questions on the issue of the


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