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top dealer. happy to take money for political ads but not police them. facebook chief facing big questions later today on capitol hill. and a 20-year-old having a postseason for the ages leads the nationals to the lead in the world series. good morning to everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. 5:00 a.m. in the east. we do start with the impeachment. president's impeachment defense jolted by new closed door testimony of the strongest proof yet of a quid pro quo, bill taylor testifying he was told the president was sitting on vital military aid and it would not be released until president trump's unfounded concerns in the 2016 election and 20 koemt joe biden. >> taylor's testimony seems to
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directly contradict the president's claem there was no quid pro quo. he detailed what he called a high literature irregular shadowing that ties into much of the impeachment inquiry. congressional correspondent phil mattingly is on capitol hill. >> christine and dave, since almost the first deposition, lawmakers have said they need to hear from william taylor, one of the three individuals on a series of text messages that have become public that made it clear that u.s. security assistance to ukraine was, in fact, being withheld for political reasons, something the president himself has denied was actually the case. well, he testified behind closed doors more than eight hours in that room. testimony that at least based on a 15-page statement prepared by cnn led one lawmaker to gasp in the room as he laid out in detail, meticulous detail as the top diplomat, making very clear
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that gordon sondland, the ambassador to the eu that there was, next, a q. the president informed sondland while there wasn't a quid pro quo in terms of words, the president expected something in terms of assistance. he wanted an investigation into bur is ma and hunter biden. in all, the statement was detailed throughout the process and made very clear that at least in taylor's mind from taylor's perspective that there had, in fact, been some type of restrictions put in place because of political reasons. again, that runs contrary to what the white house hand they have said. taylor's deposition or at least his opening statement diverged in several parts from gordon sondland's dep circumstance and where those inconsistencies lie is what both parties want to
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look into. one lawmaker i spoke to said his read was taylor had extensive notes and memorialized the conversations he was talking about which led to the statements. something lawmakers didn't get. but they're certain he's going to be looking for in the days ahead. guys? >> phil mattingly, thanks. they called it a coordinated smear attack. keep in mind it was secretary of state mike pompeo who asked taylor to come out of retirement to serve in that position. we're seeing a clear trend in the impeachment inquiry. vice president mike pence addressing the feshls on fox news. >> we have some extraordinary men and women in our diplomatic corps. who know their work and who are strong and out fighting for america's interest, but there's no question that when president trump said we're going to drain the swamp that an awful
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lot of the swamp has been caught up in the state department bureaucracy, and we're going to keep fighting it. >> despite his attack on the swamp, pence refused to say whether he was comfortable with rudy giuliani's approach to ukraine. today programs will be asked about no doubt about the withholding of aid and the supporter of aid to the ukraine. ahead, big banks and elizabeth warren have big concerns about each other. matt egan of cnn business joins us next. has arrived. so has t-mobile's newest signal. now reaching farther than ever before. right now, switch at a t-mobile store and get the new iphone 11 on us! only at t-mobile.
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it was said certain people in the u.s. can do whatever they can think of to contain and smear chi china without skruple. it is absurd and extremely dangerous to make lies, spread lie, and even formulate policies based on lies. a longtime china hawk navarro has been a key player in trade talks. last week he admitted he made up the anagram ron vara. he said, a source close to ron vara indicates kai na has revoked his sri sand lowered his social credit score. i can hear him laughing in my head when i read that statement. let's bring in cnn business lead writer matt egan. >> as we call him magenta.
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>> your anagram. >> we're working on yours. >> sounds like a spy. why has it become an element of trade talks. peter navarro has got the president president's ear. some call it a muse. >> this is a fascinating stoifrmt it's pretty ironic. peter navarro has not been shy about social meade yachl he called "the wall street journal" reports garbage and now he's admitted to making up these sources. i think at a minimum this is another distraction when these two countries are trying to resolve these complex issues and undercotts the length mat complaints we hear about ceos and chinese trade tactics. it's telling that his reaction was to sort of make light of it and then double down on his criticism of china. it's interesting that the
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publisher is not laughing about this. this is a breach of their ethics. so i think that's also another reminder that unlike rex tillerson and gary cohen and even wilbur ross, before he joined the white house. peter navarro was kind of a fringe person in economics. now he's calling the shots. >> he would say he didn't invent many fake sources, it was one, and it was a whimsical device. but you're right. the publisher saying, okay, we have to put a note in here that it's not legit. meanwhile toy maker hasbro. might the nerf guns cost more for christmas. >> that's another reason why kids might want to send their letters to santa earlier. there's two big problems. one, the tariffs already put on
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china is causing sales to go down, eating into profits. two, there's mass confusion over the timing on testify tariffs that are supposed to go on china in december, so hasbro said that created some chaos in its supply chain. retailers didn't know when to buy orders from hasbro. so it's a really good example of the real world impact of this on again/off again trade war. >> the president pauses and has another one of the books. it's chaotic for many of these companies. meanwhile elizabeth warren is sounding an alarm. she sent a let ore the treasury secretary mnuchin, and she wants a response by november 1st. are they using what's happening to try to make a case for less regulation? explain that? >> leave it to elizabeth warren to really get into the weeds of the financial market. last month we saw it.
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it lets banks and hedge funds borrow cheaply for short periods of times. it showed the financial market was broken. the feds stepped in, pumped in a whole bunch of cash. elizabeth warren is worried the industry is going to use this as way to try to deregulate. some officials and analysts i'm talking to are blaming the post crisis rules. it makes banks have easily tradeable securities. so warren sent this letter. she said to steven mnuchin, she said banks are reporting profits at record levels and it would be painfully ironic if this unexplained pro chaos in a small corner of the banking market became an excuse to further loosen rules that protect the economy from these types of risks. here she's fighting regulation
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>> we'll do a phaseout of. and we'll continue to bring them home. it's one part of the phase, the u b u the troops will come home. >> they are coming home. >> they will come home. >> that agreement, that agreement removes kurdish fighters along syria's border. it cements russia ya's role as central power bloker. it shows the u.s. support is waning. this is a historic rebalancing of influence in this region. >> reporter: absolutely, christine. you see the shift in the power balance on the ground taking place since the launch, with the u.s. losing whatever little leverage it had in syria and pretty much handing it over to the russians. the turkish government calling it a historic agreement.
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now, under this deal, what happens is if you recall, that area where the turkish incursion took place t 70-mile stretch between the towns, this area will remain for now under the control of turkey and its allied forces on the ground. we've heard from the ministry of defense here, you know, since the u.s. brokered cease-fire was launched, there's no reason because the kurdish fighters withdrew from this area. when it comes to the rest of the border region, the border guards along with the military police are supported to start patrolling this area. shay should push back the syrian kurdish fighters about 20 miles away from turkey's border. what happens next week is we see turkey and russia around the border to make sure the agreement is implemented.
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quite ironically, this is a deal that turkey was working on with the united states. they were not able to get it from their nato al life. instead they have russia promising to provide them with that, christine. >> all right. a whole new day, a whole new order there. thank you so much for that, y. andy scholes was there last night. andy scholes, houston's own andy scholes joins us in the "bleacher report." good morning, my friend. >> good morning. sad morning for hewn fans. gerrit cole had been on a historic run. he hadn't lost a game since may 22nd. he was 19-0 since then. the nationals were able to end that streak on the biggest stage and washington's young star juan soto coming up big in this game. he doesn't turn 21 until friday, and he hit an absolute moonshot off cole in the fourth.
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the ball landed on the train track. that rarely happens at minute maid park, the fourth youngest to hit a home run in the world series. he came up big again in the fourth with a two-run double. the nationals, they go on to steal home field advantage in the series with a 5-4 win in game one. >> i'm not going to lie, i feel a little bit shaky in my legs, but i tried to control my emotions, stay focused in the game. >> he's calm in the moment. clearly this is not too big a stage for him. he's taken big swings early on, bounced back from the punchout, had two big at-bats and hits. he was the difference in the game. >> yeah. the nationals are going to try to take a 2-0 lead in the series. steve strasburg will be going up against justin verlander.
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the fallout. cctv, china's state-run tv did not run the nba's opening games like they normally do. so as this story continues, we'll have to wait and see if they start airing those nba games. >> it was a shock. that story will not go away, not just yet. andy scholes, thank you. thanks, dave. the president's impeachment defense thrown into serious doubt. here's what to watch today. putting affordable homes within
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directly contradict the president's claim there was no quid pro quo. he also detailed what he called highly irregular. phil mattingly now on capitol hill. >> christine and dave, since almost the first deposition, lawmakers said they need to hear from william taylor, one of the three individuals on a series of text messages made public that taylor was concerned that u.s. assistance to ukraine was, in fact, withheld due to political reasons, something president trump himself denied was actually the case. well, he testified behind closed doors more than eight hours in that room, testimony that at least based on a 1-page prepared statement by cnn led, according to one lawmaker, to gasp in the room as he laid out in detail his months as the top u.s. diplomat in the ukraine, making
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it very clear that at least another official, gordon sondland, ambassador to the eu, who was repeat lid talking to the president that there was, in fact, a quid pro quo, that the president had informed sondland that while there wasn't a quid pro quo, at least in his words, the president insisted on something. he wanted an investigation into burris ma t company that hired joe biden's son hunter. in all the statement was detailed throughout the process and made very clear that at least in taylor's mind from taylor's perspective there had, in fact, been some type of restrictions put in place because of restrictions. again, that runs contrary to what the white house and the president a have said. one thing to keep an eye on, taylor's testimony or at least his opening statement differed in part from gordon sondland's deposition. where it lies is something both
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parties want to look into. one lawmaker i spoke to said his read was taylor had extenze ichb notes that memorialized many of the conversations he was talking about. something lawmakers didn't get during his deposition, but he was going to be certain they'll be looking for in the days ahead. guys? >> phil mattingly, thank you. the white house calling the testimony a coordinated smear attack from radical unelected bureaucrats. keep in mind it was secretary of state mike pompeo who asked taylor to come out of retirement to serve in a position. today we'll hear from a budget director of national security programs who will no doubt be asked about the withholding of aid. >> more ahead on this, plus current players have been quiet, but former nba legends get combative about the nba/china controversy. >> daryl morey is right.
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crucial testimony on clichlt bill taylor's testimony contradicting the white house claim there was no quid pro quo. let's bring in our political analyst. good to see you. >> good morning. >> big day on capitol hill. among the things we read in the statement from bill taylor, 15 pages, was this. during the phone call, ambassador sondland told me that president trump had told him that he wants president zelensky to state publicly that ukraine
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will investigate burris ma and alleged ukrainian interference in the 2016 u.s. election. how did that change everything? >> well, look. bill taylor laid out in stream detail everything that happened when he went to ukraine to serve as the top diplomat until late september when the president released the transcript of the phone call. and the fact that he goes through and paints basically the narrative how he saw the giuliani operation directed away from the same goals that the u.s. relations that the diplomatic channels were trying to pursue and how by the time we got to early september he realized and people were telling him from directly in the circle that the military aid was being held up in order to procure an investigation and they're political in nature and could bed a van tanks to the election in 2020, he's making details of the case that's more meticulous than the other people who have
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come before him and that's why he's filling in facts because he's basically laying it exactly who and when did what what to create it. >> for those who are saying they want it behind closed doors, those who say they want it transparent. that's the outline for what he told lawmakers and what bill taylor says here is our national security demands that this relationship with crew crane remains strong. he paints this as a national security issue. he says this about this irregular informal channel that the white house had made here. in august and september i became increasingly concerned that our relationship with the crew crane was being fundamentally undermined with our relationship with ukraine was being fundamentally undermined by an
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irregular, informal channel of u.s. policy-making and by the withholding of vital security assistance. they're using it for personal reasons, to exploit unfounded conspiracy theorys to try to win an election. >> right. it happens all the time, going outside, bringing in experts that can help advance what the government is trying to do. but in this case it's really striking taylor also lays out who was working in what camp. he shows how the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the head of the cia and the national security adviser john bolton were trying to let go of the military aid. ukraine has always been at the front line of the tension between the united states and russia, which was amped up like crazy five or six years ago -- five years ago, excuse my math in the morning, when russia
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annexed crimea and they made the insurgence into that eastern part of the country. you can't separate the two. you have them all trying to organize themselves, telling the president, you have to let this go, get back on track and you have the parallel situation where the president's personal lawyer is working with a side group which includes some diplomats but mostly people not responsible for ukraine including ambassador sondland and they seem to be pushing the agenda and would potentially undercut what the ukraine policy is supposed to do. >> to characterize what she's talking about real quick, karoun, they're waging war on the constitution.
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what are you hearing from congressional republicans? >> some are extremely concerned. some say they want to hear from giuliani, sondland. you conditioned shrug it off. you have jim jordan, mark meadows. they're saying, it's fine. how can he go around and throw these accusations, he doesn't have exact proof. that's fine. we heard that about the whistle-blower and yovanovitch's testimony, but this is a case that's slowly building up. you see the house democrats were bringing in people outside the room and inside the room and they're playing off each other. they're filling in the discrepan discrepancy, and they're not done. they've subpoenaed many in the cabinet level. the interesting thing is you
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really do have political pointes on both sides that on both sides. >> right. it illustrates it's not just careers versus trump loyalist issues. an issue of the sub stan till point. >> karoun , thank you. lawmakers expected the press mark zuckerberg. brian, good morning. explain why today is just so critical for facebook. >> sure. this is a major test forcebookl so much scrutiny across the political spectrum. you've got facebook potentially being asked about its expansion into this, why you're doing
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this. you have other arias including health care and -- i'm sorry -- housing issues that the company is being asked about. you know, the company is being, you know, challenged on questions about the truthfulness of political advertising on its platform. you have the company facing questions about whether or not it stands on fact-checking, politicians and ads is appropriate. all of this is really swirling around the company at a time of, you know, a lot of regulators and policy-makers who are trying to develop, you know, rules around how to -- how to, you know, ensure that the company is not, you know, unduly influencing political speech. >> right, yeah. political attackers or meddlers, liars.
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we leave the tracking to journalists, for example, mark zuckerberg said. we'll see. lawmakers are going to have trouble with that. 47 attorneys general are part of this. that could mean changes. what can you tell us? >> certainly. on monday a number of officials met with state attorneys general in new york to discuss possible legal theorys that could underpin a future anti-trust case against facebook that could seek to either break up the company or, you know, look at imposing new regulations or commitments on that company. it's very early days in terms of, you know, where that investigation stands. the investigators have been describing to me they're trying to get a grip on issues that are facing regulators and th, you k, the types of business activities that facebook is involved with
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>> you said they were going to be redeployed to western iraq, but the latest news is the iraqi command said you're welcome to come across the border but only on your way out. >> sure. as you know, we're conducting a deliberate phased withdrawal in northeast syria, we'll have a temporary stop in iraq. eventually the troops are going to come home. >> they are coming home. >> they will come home. >> right now, a deal between russia and turkey is taking effect, and that agreement removes kurdish fighters along syria's border. cnn's frederick pligeitgen repos live. fred, what does that mean for the conflict in the region? >> reporter: it's a huge expanding role not just in syria but the entire region as well. i do have a little bit of breaking news for you that's going on right now. as you mentioned, that deal went
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into effect essentially a couple of hours ago. minutes ago they were seen in the town of kobani. forces are going to move into that area and their task is to move kurdish fighters out of that area, about 30 kilometers away from the border. after that, there's going to be joint patrols between the turks and russians in the area from what the turks call their safe zone. president trump tweeted on all this and he said he thinks good things are happening in syria. they're certainly good things if you're the president of turkey but not if you're the kurds, key in driving isis out. russia told them they need to get out. in fact, a spokesman for the kremlin said the kurds are going to be, quote, steamrolled by the
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turkish army if they don't tleev area. but right now you can clearly see that the russians are the big power there in syria, massively increasingheir influence while the u.s. is out of the picture as far as the future of syria and as far as northeastern syria is concerned, dave. >> fred pleitgen. thank you. all right. it all started when houston rockets' general manager daryl morey tweeted support for pro-democracy protesters in hong kong while the league was playing preseason games in china. >> you've got people speaking when they don't know what they're talking about, but, you know, daryl morey was right. when you see something going on wrong in the world, you have the right to say that's not right. that's what he did. again, when it comes to business, you have to tiptoe around things. again, they understand our
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values, we understand our values, and we have the right to speak, especially with social media. we have the right to say it when we want to say it. >> the rockets are by far and away the most popular team in china. you can't come to my country and insult me. we don't get to impress our values on other countries. daryl morey had the right to say it, but he didn't look at the big picture. >> fans were waving hong kong flags at the game in toronto last night. >> good discussion with those gentlemen. first game in the world series in the books. >> he just cleaned up! wow! >> that is 20-year-old juan soto blasting one to the train tracks there, lifting the nationals to a 5-4 win over the houston astros last night. he went three for four, including a two-run double. the nats added three runs in
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fifth, held on for the win. tonight, in houston. president trump and his supporters are pushing ukraine conspiracy theories. while you were sleeping john lithgow channeled the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani on "the late show." >> i now have reason to believe the 2016 election was not hacked by the russians. it was hacked by hunter biden who was actually a "men in black"-style alien being operated by a tiny hillary clinton in his neck. >> okay. wow! that's a bold assertion. do you have any proof of that? >> oh, not yet, or ever. i'm not falling into that proof trap. >> his facial expressions. >> i love it. he'll be a guest later.
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pretty solid. >> i laughed out loud. >> will he be in character as rudy? >> i don't know. he'll be on "new day" in the 8:00 hour. thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans >> i'm dave briggs. here's "new day." this is corruption at the highest level. taylor's account was painstakingly detailed. >> i was in there for ten hours. i can assure you there was no quid pro quo. >> you can't just say something is not happening when all of the evidence is right there in front of you. >> we didn't sign up to fight a war to defend the kurds against a longstanding nato ally. >> they have carved up the area amongst themts. >> i'm hope the administration is trying to mitigate the damage done by the decision to withdraw from eastern syria. >> welcome to our viewers in
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the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." it's wednesday, october 23rd. it's 6:00 here in new york and the other shoe just dropped. these are the headlines. we want to show you that president trump is waking up to this morning. this is "the new york times." trump tied aid to inquiries. "washington post," envoy. trump tied aid to biden broeb. you want to hold "the wall street journal"? >> all right. president tied ukraine aid to biden probe. it's really consistent. >> there's another way to say that. you know what it is? >> that he tied the aid to the probe? >> it's quid pro quo. the other way to say that is quid pro quo. explosive testimony from the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine has delivered the single most consequential investigation. telling congress that multiple senior administration officials informed him that the president personally blocked military aid to ukrai
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