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i'm fredricka whitfield. isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi was killed in a raid, u.s. forces using the cover of night after tracking him down at a secret compound near the border with turkey. the white house issuing this photo showing a moment inside the situation room during the raid. al baghdadi's death is being seen as a deathly blow to isis. the president went into explicit details about abu baghdadi's death. >> he went into the turn whimpering and screaming. he was a sick and depraved man.
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and now he's gone. baghdadi was vicious and violent, and he died in a vicious and violent way as a coward, running and crying. this raid was impeccable and could only have taken place with the acknowledgment and help of certain other nations and people. i want to thank the nations of russia, turkey, syria and iraq, and i also want to thank the syrian kurds for certain support they were able to give us. >> all right, let's begin with cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, a lot to dig into here. also admiral john kirby with us. he's our diplomatic analyst. barbara, what are we learning about how this raid was carried
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out? >> it looks like the intelligence got together in the last couple of weeks, and they used army special forces, some of the highly trained units to carry out this very critical raid, a very dangerous raid. it was deep into a portion of syria where the u.s. generally, even before the withdrawal, had not operated. by all accounts, about a hundred troops coming in by helicopters in the cover of night and basically descending on this compound. as the president says, baghdadi apparently called out, refused to surrender and ran into a tunnel dragging three children with him, detonating his suicide vest and all of them died. there are, according to the president, detainees that the u.s. troops there took into custody. and recover of intelligence. so now a key question will be, what kind of information with they get out of interrogating the people they took, what kind of intelligence were they able to get? on these raids they typically
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look for laptops, computers, cell phones, any documents, anything that would indicate where baghdadi and his associates, if you will, had recently been, who they talked to, what kind of records there may be, who was in their cell phone. this may provide additional hint as they look to go after other elements of isis still there. fred? >> and, admiral kirby, this is a covert operation. how do you maintain that kind of secrecy when you have, as we heard the president say, so many either involved or informed, whether it be the syrian kurds, russia, turkey, syria or even iraq? >> well, first you keep the circle of people that are informed about the planning of it to a very, very small number. and you heard the president talk about that today, acknowledging that it was a small number. that was the experience i saw during the bin laden raid during 2011. only a very, very small number of people were aware of that as
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it was being planned and the intelligence was being firmed up. then as you get close to execution, you have to start allowing for a little bit wider circle because you have to deal with the actual execution of it, in this case air space concerns and in the aftermath in terms of explaining it. my guess would be they didn't inform russia or turkey, you know, as it was getting ready to be launched. probably just before the aircraft entered spaces that they needed to enter is my guess they would have delayed that to a maximum to protect security. >> the president did say there was an informant of russia in that air space issue. the president said there really was no correlation between the locating of al bakr and this u.s. troop pullout from syria. no real correlation here, but do you see that in some way there was an assist by u.s. troops
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being pulled out and then bringing in special forces for this operation? >> yeah, i don't know for sure, fred. i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that the president's abrupt decision to withdraw forces from syria might have thrown into some disarray or confusion the planning that went into getting al baghdadi. this was likely a months-long process from working on intelligence and monitoring his movements through various means of surveillance and reconnaisance, so i think it took a long time to get here. i'll suspect we'll find out that his abrupt decision may have thrown that process a little bit off dead center here. that said, i think operationally clearly this was a success, but i do think it's important to remember that in some parts it was a success driven by the partnership that we have with the kurds and the kind of intelligence on the ground that they have been able to give us. that partnership now is very much in jeopardy because of a strategic decision that the
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president has made to withdraw from the northern part of syria? sdp >> and barbara, what now? what's next? >> i think a lot of people are looking toward russia and russia's growing involvement in this area, especially as u.s. troops have withdrawn. russia's influence really in the past couple weeks perhaps has really grown as the president has stepped back from u.s. involvement in syria. the russians have agreements with the syrian regime with the turks. they will be seeking to have some kind of accommodation. and, you know, the president says u.s. troops will be guarding those oil fields in eastern syria, but it's still a very big question if the syrian regime, if the russians, if iranian-backed militias move into those oil field areas and you industrial a relatively small number of u.s. troops. without the massive support structure, what will they do? what will their orders be? russia is giving no indication
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it's pulling back on its influence in syria. >> all of this following the death of abu bakr al baghdadi. thank you very much, barbara starr and admiral john kirby. appreciate it. we're getting a first look at the raid that killed abu baghdadi. nic robertson is in the area. what are you learning? >> reporter: it is very difficult to get into this area, yet a stronghold of al qaeda where russia says perhaps the next wave of radicalism of jihadists is already growing and may emanate from the west. we have images of that scene, and it does show a remote area, in fact, one obliterated, it seems, by this raid. it was the hardest of places to get into and hardest to guess he would be hiding them. this is all that's left of where
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the world's most wanted man hid, possibly for weeks. intelligence value whisked away, flattened by rubble of repeated airstrikes. we obtained these images from a local cameraman able to function in a region where al qaeda is strong but civilians long to be normal. shells littered the area perhaps from the eight helicopters that arrived here in the dead of night before u.s. commanders blew holes in the compound's walls. abu woke about 11:00 and was surprised to see helicopters. before long, a blast. houses one kilometre away were completely shattered, he said. we waited until sunrise before we came here and we saw the bodies. women and children body parts,
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about six to seven dead. in the morning we heard that baghdadi was here, but people living here thought displaced people from aleppo lived in the houseworking in the grain trade. no one knows, he said, exactly what happens. somewhere below in the dust is the tunnel where president trump said baghdadi blew himself up, killing his three children with him. by dawn, there was so little left to pick over here, baghdadi's sudden end with the world he pierced with radical violence. we learned from president trump that actually some children inside that compound were left with locals there, too. it would be interesting to learn the makeup of the family where baghdadi was hanging out. but also, too, who was sheltering him? what radical group in that area was providing the infrastructure to keep him hidden? that's a vital question to ask in terms of who they may have
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been supported by and how come they were so close to turkey's southern border, yet so far off nato's radar, it seemed. nick paton walsh. the isis leader killed as told by the trump administration. did he reveal too much about this massive raid? cnn news continuing next. taking fish oil supplements, you should know, they are not fda-approved, they may have saturated fat and may even raise bad cholesterol. to treat very high triglycerides, discover the science of prescription vascepa. proven in multiple clinical trials, vascepa, along with diet, is the only prescription epa treatment, approved by the fda to lower very high triglycerides by 33%, without raising bad cholesterol. look. it's clear. there's only one prescription epa vascepa.
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president trump announces that u.s. forces led a raid that killed isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi. the raid taking place in western syria on saturday, and during a statement this morning, president trump revealed several graphic details of what led to al baghdadi's death. >> he ignited his death, killing himself and the three children. his body was mutilated by the blast. the tunnel had caved in on it in addition. but test results gave certain immediate and totally positive identification. it was him. the thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the american forces bearing down on him. >> let's turn now to cnn's
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jeremy diamond live at the white house for us. jeremy, the president giving a play by play of the operation. why did he feel it was important to do that? >> reporter: he very much did exactly that, fredricka. a play by play is what we saw from the president today as he described how this raid went about. he described a number of details as well, including the number of helicopters that were used, how long it took those helicopters to get to baghdadi's compounds. even saying they used the walls rather than the doors that he said were booby trapped. foreign security officials said perhaps the president revealed too much. but one of the things the president kept coming back to was describing in detail how exactly baghdadi died. listen to how he described one of those moments. >> he died like a dog, he died like a coward. he was whimpering, screaming and
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crying. and frankly, i think it's something that should be brought out so his followers and all these young kids that want to leave various countries, including the united states, they should see how he died. he didn't die a hero, he died a coward. crying, whimpering, screaming and bringing three kids with him to die. a certain death. >> now, fredricka, there is no indication that cnn will actually show that video, release it to the public. but these are clearly some choices of others to be inspired by al baghdadi's name, who in his last moments was whimpering, as president trump said. fredricka? >> i want to bring in security
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analyst bob baer. also attorney general mark hurtling. good to see you both. bob baer, the president went into detail about the apparatus that was used, helicopters, how long it took, breaching walls. what struck you? not information enough, too much information? >> i'm sure he was counseled on this. this happened after the bin laden raid as well where they portrayed bin laden as essentially a coward, hiding behind women, if you remember that. this is for the playbook. as for breaching the wall, that's a bit odd. i can tell you from breaching that normally everyone inside the other wall dies in an explosion like that. when you come through a door in a combat entry, you can get in and secure the place without killing everybody. normally reaching with
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explosives kills. it's unlikely that anyone would wear these all the time because they go off easily. approxima approximate. the skwe, what did turkey do? if you look at the map, the base is right there. if i were in the military, i would want to have some backup in that base, but maybe the turks the r said, don't go public with that. for all we know, they proimd fortunately. this might be something we have to wait years for the details to come out. >> and generally an operation like this takes years of general planning and precision, so could you explain? how do special 4forces plan something like this, and especially in a time when we learn that u.s. troops are being
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moved out of the area? >> fred, for having blessed and approved target packages for high-value targets, certainly not as high value a strategic target as baghdadi was. what i would say is it takes a long time to put something like this together, it takes a great deal of intelligence, not only from human sources. may have the ability to track things. there are reports now that the original indicator rs and in terms of life with baghdadi in this particular town. i would have to disagree a little with what bob said. the breaching of a wall in a compound like this is not abnormal. the fact that a high value target wears a suicide vest is also not abnormal.
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they do grow. my experience has been on several high-value targets, you see a lot of al qaeda, in in this case, isis even if they're under threats from last night. the rehearsals in this case by delta force as part of a special command. this one takes a lot of attention. we'll have more on breaking news. in california 200,000 under orders of evacuation as the governor issues a statewide state of emergency. this is destined to push more
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. welcome back. we're following breaking news out of california where the governor has declared a state of emergency. fire conditions went from bad to worse across the state. these pictures are from vallejo where they were forced to evacuate. this picture of flames on the side of the road was captured in santa rosa. fortunately help is on the way. they are sending 15 flight teams to assist. lisa describing the scene where she is. >> reporter: we're managing certain checkpoints here, but it's been a terrifying night for residents in northern california and a devastating morning. you can see behind me, very little left of this farm. we've been given permission by the owner of this ranch to film
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here, to spend time here. the barn is still standing. inside there are still fires burning. it's quite dangerous to be too close to there so we're sticking to the outside. over here you can see just how little is left after those fires raged in the night, picking up around 2:00 a.m., wind gusts up to 80 miles per hour and that is what created these unpredictable dangerous conditions that spread that fire so rapidly. i want to show you also behind us, the family that lived here survived, their livestock still in the field. you can see the cows are standing around and they're breathing in the smoke and the fumes, the same thing the residents are breathing as well. it has been a devastating and difficult 24 hours for the residents here, and officials say for the next 24 hours they'll consider what they call red flag conditions until local
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time monday, and that means risk of high winds, and that could spread the fire. they said they have a pretty good idea in which direction the fire is heading in now, but the problem is as those embers burn out of control, as little sparks start, new fires can start, and that is an incredibly dangerous situation for the people here. so they have as many researches as they can get. the governor again declaring that state of emergency, but a lot of concern here. we are not out of the clear at all for the next 24 hours. >> terrible. lucy cavano, thank you so much. the president considering a stipulation. why he did not notify members of congress. stick around, that's next. hey there people eligible for medicare.
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baghdadi, who killed himself. democratic leader ships say they knew nothing about the mission, before or even immediately after it was announced. in fact, minority leader chuck schumer said he only found out about al baghdadi's death after hearing about it on television. joining me is alex ferion and doug. good to see both of you. >> thank you. >> doug, how does it look that trump would say in this morning's announcement that he alerted russia but not members of congress about the raid? >> it doesn't look good, and i tell you, i used to work for richard burr, the current senate intel chair. i know if this was something where a democratic president was withholding information from him, he would be very angry. i think democrats have a right to be angry. also this ties into trump politically. he certainly wanted to withhold information from democrats because he doesn't trust them to
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withhold the information, but i would say the reality is he would talk them into giving credit where it wasn't due. i think he should have allowed that to happen. >> he did give some. >>judge ross: lawmak-- gop lawm some heads back-up what was to be. how problematic is that for the president? >> i don't think it's problematic for the president, but it is problematic overall, and it is indicative of how donald trump handles foreign issues, anyway. taking troops out of syria is something he did without speaking to the pentagon. and the reason he says he didn't tell about al baghdadi's death,
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he said, there are issues of leaks, i don't want to deal with the leakers. well, there are a lot of leaks coming out of your administration, so i don't buy that argument. he's really distrustful of people he's working with and he can't be making these decisions unilaterally. he needs to be speaking to lawmakers and giving them the proper warnings before he moove forward with his plans. >> listen to what republican senator lindsey graham told reporters yesterday. >> i want to commend the president for coming up with a model in syria that we probably should have done in iraq. this is a game changer with the killing of al baghdadi. this is a moment for our intelligence community. this is a moment where president trump's worst critics should say, well done, mr. president. >> so, doug, would this potentially mend some of those cracks within the gop that were revealed just prior to this raid? >> i think temporarily it might, but what we saw over the past
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couple weeks was that real cracks were exposed and those cracks don't completely go away, because once you lose trust in something you never fully gain it back. i would agree wholeheartedly with lindsey graham's last point. democrats should give credit of this to the president, and they gave credit to president obama when we captured osama bin laden. this is a good day for the country. we should prorecognize it, and president and the administration should work together in a way to give credit that they deserve. >> the president was saying job well done to the u.s. military, to the operation, and most in agreement that al baghdadi needed to have been taken care of, so to speak. how do you interpret what lindsey graham said, that this ought to really inspire some of his worst critics to now say,
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well done, mr. president? >> i think that while this is a victory, it's much more difficult to combat an idealogy, and simply killing the leader of this particular terrorist organization doesn't necessarily mean that we're no longer going to have issues with isis. so that's point number one. and the wording that lindsey graham used was really fascinating, because he made it appear as though there has been a victory against isis. >> you mean when he said it's a game changer? >> exactly. when he says it's a game changer. and the reason why i mention this is because he's very operations abroad, military - intervention abroad, so does this mean we don't need to worry about isis anymore? he needs to be very careful and measured in the language he uses. while i do agree that it's a victory, i don't agree this is a game changer. i think we're still going to have issues with terrorist organizations abroad. >> an a kasperian, doug heye,
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thank you. former vice president joe biden issued this statement. i congratulate our special forces, our intelligence community and all our brave military professionals on delivering justice to the terrorist abu bakr al baghdadi. it is thanks to their courage and relentless determination to carry out their mission that isis has suffered a vital loss. elizabeth warren said, abu bakr al baghdadi led a campaign of mass violence and terror that devastated the region and threatened the world. his death is a setback for isis and a victory for justice. i am grateful for the skill and courage of our special operations and intelligence professionals.
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>> there is no question that the demise of baghdadi is a very important milestone in terms of our fight against isis, and all credit goes to our special forces, to our intelligence community. >> this is a real blow against isis and a positive step in the fight against terrorism, and credit should go to all who were involved, and i think it's an example of what our special operations and intelligence capable are capable of throughout the world. >> it's important to note that that attack was carried out by information from the kurds. as you know, the president has turned his back on the kurds, something i think that will have a negative impact not only in that region of the world but in terms of our relationship with allies from one end of this planet to another. >> more of our breaking news in a moment. coming up next, there is
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democrats are gearing up for another busy week of testimony in the impeachment inquiry. house democrats are threatening to hold charles cuperman in contempt after he filed a lawsuit asking a judge whether he's obliged to testify. he is one of the diplomats scheduled to give depositions this week. house intel chairman adam schiff suggests that democrats are making rapid progress in the impeachment inquiry. sources tell cnn that acting secretary of state phillip reeker testified on saturday that he did not find out there was a push in the trump administration for ukraine to publicly announce investigations into joe biden and his son until the whistleblower complaint went public. some republicans are downplaying reeker's testimony.
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>> well, it's the same old situation, quite honestly. i haven't heard anything that has been earth shattering or anything different than what we've heard over and over again. so we're just through it methodically and see if there is anything different. but there is no difference in properties and there's been no earth-shattering testimony that i've seen today. >> according to reeker's testimony, all these depositions have been behind closed doors, and without an open-ending statement, we have very little knowledge of what's being said, but how might his testimony impact the overall approach to this impeachment inquiry? >> i think what's important about this testimony is it's
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indicating that they've been kept in the dark. there is a very deliberate cover-up, and not even a cover-up right from the fact rkfact, but it was from the start that president trump wanted to keep people out of the loop that didn't think this was such a good idea. >> the president sent out a tweet saying this was legit, and house members requesting information should be able to receive it, and that any of the grand jury notes from the special counsel's probe should be provided. explain how this prisz, approach to the prsz, and that all of the information does not have to be
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made public or they do not have to have the same kind of transparency that perhaps one would if there were a final vote from the house. >> so the gop is trying to attack the process, saying that, for example, these depositions are very improper because they are behind closed doors. they've also claimed that it's not really a proper process because there hasn't been a full house vote on the impeachment inquiry. so judge howell dismissed that. she said this is a legitimate impeachment inquiry. they don't need to have the house vote. also, with regard to the house members, it's important to remember that all testimony is done in public. democrats need to conduct it in private because they don't have a special counsel counsel. so the mueller report was not
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specific. but to the extent it doesn't vr vrlt. . there may be very important information in there for impeachment inquiry as well. >> john bolton is in talks now about whether he will possibly testify. can there be conditions attached to his sneft. >> oh, absolutely. appearing before congress or disagreements with the executive branch of congress is to negotiate, figure out the conditions. it wouldn't be easy trying to figure it out. what would be common is figuring out there is no immunity, people can't justify it at all.
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throwing out the first pitch. here's cnn. >> ready? >> presidential politics and baseball, two of the great american traditions and yes, they do often commingle. >> it's a single. >> dating all the way back to 1910 when william howard taft, yes, he of the rotund girth was the first president to throw out a first pitch. this was on opening day in the 1910 season. it was five years later when woodrow wilson became the first president to throw out a fist ph in a world series game and
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presidents throughout have largely kept up that tradition. not only at the world series but certainly at some time during the season. donald trump, yes, he is different than his predecessors in lots of ways including this one. trump plans to attend game 5 in washington, the world series between the washington nationals and the houston astros but will not be throwing out the first pitch at the first game, by the way, in major league baseball ha he has attended as president. his stated reason is that he would look too bulky and heavy in the bullet proof vest that president trumps are required to wear when doing this sort of thing. another reason, might be that donald trump wouldn't be getting the reception he would want from the d.c. crowd. d.c. would likely to be booed and loudly. now, the most memorable first pitch and one that would be
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opposed to the reception donald trump would get came six weeks after the 2001 terrorist attacks. george w. bush in a world series game between the yankees and the diamondbacks strode to the mound and delivered a strike to applause from the crowd. it wound up being a symbol of toughness, a symbol of fortitude, a symbol that we have unbowed and unbroken and it was one of the most memorable moments of george w. bush's eight years in office. donald trump unlikely to have a moment like that takes a pass on trying to throw a strike. back to you. >> thank you so much. more on our breaking news straight ahead. president trump announcing the death of a key isis leader.
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