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welcome to "inside politics." i'm nia-malika henderson. john is off. he went to a deep south state to rebuttal his impeachment. can she actually keep her promise of not raising taxes on the middle class? and speaker nancy pelosi is on a bit of a mini tour after that impeachment vote. but she's not quite ready to be boxed in on a timeline. >> when do public hearings
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start? >> they'll be soon. >> could you be vaguer? >> we begin the hour with a president's impeachment anger after a consequential week that moved the inquiry into a new phase. a witch hunt like no other, the president tweeted this morning, and trump is headed to mississippi tonight, his first rally since democrats voted to go forward with the impeachment inquiry yesterday. it would be a pretty safe bet to venture that the rally atmosphere will only amplify the president's attacks. house speaker nancy pelosi said the thursday vote was one of necessity and that the president's actions boxed democrats into a corner. but the president's team says that they believe that democrats are wildly overplaying their hand. we've got cnn's kaitlan collins who is at the white house. kaitlan, we've been hearing from the white house this hour, and they're trying to show how they think that impeachment actually cuts in their favor. >> reporter: and not just the white house, nia, it's also the
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president's campaign who say they raised $3,000 on line yesterday as democrats were holding that first full vote on impeachment as they were moving forward. but the house recognizes that what happened yesterday does und undercut that republican talking point that this wasn't a real inquiry because democrats had not voted on it yet. that is something they'll have to come to terms with, as well as what nancy pelosi was saying there, that these hearings will be going from being held privately to being held publicly. the question from the white house is if they're going to beef up their strategy to deal with that to confront having these former employees on television to talk about the president withholding that military aid. they didn't have staffers to create a war room, because in their terms, the president was his own war room here. he may take matters into his own hands like he did in an
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interview with the "washington examiner," that he was considering reading the transcript of that phone call with the ukranian president on television, which would be something, because after that transcript was released there were a lot of republicans and people inside the administration did not think it worked in the president's favor to release that, much less have him read it live on television, but it gives you a sense of how the white house will face what democrats are doing on capitol hill. >> here to share with me their reporting, we have julia pace with the associated press, tulos er tulo tulose. the vote culminates on thursday with the passage of that in the house. julie, i want to start with you. where is your sense of where we
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are now, if you think about the white house, if you think about what the folks in congress want to do? where are we now and where do you see this going? >> i think there were two major dynamics we saw play out this week. on the one hand we have a series of witnesses that continue to come forward on capitol hill that bolster the initial whistleblower complaint. we see more detail alddded to i we see more corroboration added to it and it really does paint a picture of a president that was trying to investigate political opponents. on the other hand, we see the polarization deepen where, despite the new evidence we get in the corroboration we get, we see republicans who at least publicly are standing with the president, and the result of it is an impeachment vote that does look very polarized at this point, that does look partisan. i do think that one of the challenges for democrats as they go forward, if they can't get republicans to move on this, will be to try to paint this as something other than a partisan investigation. >> and pelosi out there trying to do that, she faced some
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criticism yesterday, people kind of throwing her words back at her because she said she didn't want to move forward on this because it would be divisive. here he was talking about it. >> i have not been, shall we say, enthusiastic about the device that would occur from an impeachment. he's already going to divide the country further than he's already divided it. but this was something you could not ignore. >> and jordan, nancy pelosi in an interview with your outlet saying maybe there is a timeline where she could see the impeachment happening in november. that's when people are focusing on in the question of when is the timeline, and will it butt up against elections starting in february. >> the fact she held up on the
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impeachment afterwards allowed her to make the point, that was its own thing but now we need to move forward. the timeline is also being influenced by the mueller investigation. it allowed the president and his allies to form a defense and really knock this down and form it into a partisan lens. and by moving more quickly, i think the democrats' hope is that they will quickly be able to make their point and move forward with impeachment. >> you've seen with this president, he talked about what he did with mueller over the no collusion and the witch hunt, which we see that now with witch hunt. the other idea is that it was a perfect call. you heard kaitlan allude to it, the president saying, at some point i'm going to sit down perhaps as a fireside chat on live television, and i will read the transcript of the call, because people have to hear it. when you read it, it's a straight call. he went on to say, everybody knows i did nothing wrong. bill clinton did things wrong,
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richard nixon did things wrong. i won't go back to andrew johnson because that was a little before my time. but they did things wrong. i did nothing wrong. he keeps saying he did nothing wrong, it was a perfect call. this is his branding. >> he's owning what he said and he's basically making the argument there is nothing wrong with it. it's true when you hear republicans talking about this process, they're talking about the process, they're not necessarily talking about the conduct, which many of them find very disturbing, to say the least, though most of them will only say that privately. the challenge now will be, now that they're past this vote, they can't say anymore this is an inquiry that was blessed by the house. it was a partisan vote. it couldn't have been more partisan than it was, but it happened. it's happening and it's going to go forward in public now, so they'll use that as an argument as well, that people aren't allowed to see what's happening.
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i think it will put pressure on republicans, the fact that the president is so aggressively owning the conduct and the underlying facts that have come out again and again in these testimonies behind closed doors. they'll have to find a way to defend what many of them consider to be pretty inappropriate. we hear some saying, i might not have talked that way, i might not have said it that way, but you know this president. they'll need to boost that up because we know the president has not been happy with the fact-finding. he wants them to say, this was the right thing to do. >> we've got some polling on this from the "washington post." your outlet, tulose, from the "washington post" said, should trump be removed from office? independents, 49%, in total,
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49%. now, we do know that this is a president that looks at polls. the polls he doesn't like he sort of dismisses. but he also thinks he has a special lie-in with republicans and conservatives in particular. we'll hear from him at this rally tonight in mississippi. what do you think he's going to say? >> that's his biggest defense, the fact that the republican base is with him and that's why you're not seeing republican lawmakers break from him, because you will will see if any of them break from him, they will get the wrath of the republican base. we have seen the numbers increase over the last four weeks as the president has gone through impeachment. we've seen more people support impeachment, in part because the white house and the president have not had a clear strategy of defense. the president wants to cater specifically to his republican base and that gives you maybe a third of the country, but democrats are saying this looks
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like the right thing to do because the president can't say why he was pushing for a foreign government to investigate his political rivals. the president is focusing on his base as a last line of defense, but when it comes to reaching out to the broader country to defend himself against impeachment, it's not working across the country. >> we do know the numbers for impeach. so i imagine that the president is haefrtenned by that. but you think about the kind of work he had to do with republicans in the house to get them to all vote against this resolution efrks on the phone with folks. >> the president's path to reelection is narrow, the same as it was in 2016. it exists but it's narrow. his campaign is really not focused in any way at persuasion right now. they don't look at these i understand skpent think they may
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have a chance there. so he will be leaning hard into this dwlad he needs to vote for him again. it would be lead to a narrow victory but a victory yesterday, which was essentially saying, listen, the democrats are wasting their time for impeachment and he's done all these great things in society. when we come back, a flashback at the first fireside chat in 1973 on the banking crisis. >> some of our bankers are dishonest in the handling of people's funds. you people must have faith. you must not be stampeded by rumors or guesses.
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senator elizabeth warren finally answering questions about how she plans to pay for her medicare for all plan. she says she can still do it without raising taxes for the middle class. she has a whole laundry list of sources for funding her plan, as well as taxes for the wealthy. critics remain cautious, and
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sanders warned her, warren's numbers are simply not believable. she said she could put together her own plan to cover everyone, without costing the country anything more in health care spending, and while putting $11 trillion back in the pockets of the american people by eliminating premiums and virtually eliminating out of pocket costs. mj, this is the $20 million question on everybody's mind, or maybe it's the $30 million question because that's the estimate of how much this thing will cost, depending on which expert you ask. how else will she pay for this plan? >> elizabeth warren has been under fire for weeks for not
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having a plan on how to pay for medicare for all and particularly on the question of whether middle class taxes would go up on medicare for all. this is a question she's been dodging for weeks, whether it's from reporters or some of her rivals on the democratic debate stage. and now today she's saying the answer to that question is no, not a single penny would go up in her plan on paying medicare for all on the middle class. this is an interesting dynamic we're seeing between elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, because bernie sanders, the author of medicare for all, said earlier this week he didn't think it was necessary yet to put up a detailed plan. her price tag for medicare for all plan would be $20.5 trillion of extra spending, including employer contribution. we're talking about cracking down on tax evasion and fraud, and targeting big financial
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corporations and big companies and also beefing up the wealth tax. she's now saying people who have wealth of more than a billion dollars would now pay six cents for every dollar of wealth over a billion dollars rather than three cents. most of this actually falls into sort of the political message that she has long had of wanting the rich and corporations to pay more, but her skeptics will say this is not realistic, and as you just pointed out, her rivals are already jumping on board in criticizing her and saying the price tag for how she plans to pay for all this is not realistic. >> mj, thank you for breaking those numbers down. we'll bring it here to the table. in some ways this seems like it will open elizabeth warren to more criticism if you look at the details of this plan. you had folks call a lot of her plans pipe dreams, and you imagine this criticism will
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continue when you look at these numbers. >> politically i think this is something she probably had to do given the amount of flak she was receiving for not having a way to pay for a medicare for all plan. if you dig into the details, some of these assumptions are pretty wild. $400 million coming from comprehensive medical reform. julie has written an entire book about it. it's an extremely difficult thing to get through congress, not to mention the wealth tax which is probably a billion dollars in savings. i would think that would be something very tough to pass through congress given how politically tough tax increases arement she h are. she has a lot of assumptions in there that have you scratching your head and saying this may not work. >> biden is slipping, and you look at the folks who actually
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like her on the screen. she's up 28 to biden's 21. a lot of that support coming from folks who are very liberal, that's 47%. she's also not doing terribly among moderates and conservatives. she has about 20% there. do voters care about this? are they in the weeds with jordan talking about how she'll pay for it. >> when you dig into the specifics here, there are a lot of questions about how practical this is. one of the things that has fueled warren's rise is this idea that she does have a plan, that she's thought through this. i heard from voters in early states where they will say versions of this. they will say i might not agree with exactly where she is on the wealth tax or medicare for all or a variety of things, but i like that she has thought it
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through. i'm glad that she would come with an idea that she actually believes. tlls a real sense she has some poor convictions on things, so potentially this could give her an out on an issue that's been a wild card for her. >> we've been out there asking her about this plan for weeks. here she is explaining it, sort of defending herself. >> how will you not tax the middle class? that is the question. >> costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations, and for hard-working middle class families, costs will go down. i will not sign a bill into law that does not lower costs for middle class families. i continue to work on parts of it that need more information.
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>> we heard some attacks from biden in biden's campaign and senator bennet's campaign as well. this is also an opening for someone like pete buttigieg who brought this up in the debate, as well as biden. this is a real vulnerability for her, but people like she's at least trying to be insulational. if you're going to have medicare for all, you do need to raise taxes on the middle class. she's pulling this mostly from the wealthy and financial transactions on wall street, she's saying i'm with bern on the middle class, but i'm not exactly challenge herrmann.
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and a lot of other candidates have gone through when they put out tax bills. >> and bernie sanders not big on details, either r. >> you're asking me to tell you how much more you'll pay in taktsz and how much i'll have to pay. i don't think i have to do that right now. >> do you think it's foolish? why -- we have a variety of options. we'll have that debate. >> so is bernie sanders right here, that maybe being sort of vague is better than these detailed plans that elizabeth warren has?
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>> there's no question that it exposes her to a vulnerability, but i do think julie is right, that voters do want to hear that you've thought this through, that you have a plan. one thing we saw in 2016 is that having a candidate come out and make bold pronouncements about what he wants to do actually appeals to people. when you look at things she wants to do, she wants comprehensive military reform. she says she wants to cut military spending. it allows her to give a broader picture of somehow. it --. when the more moderate voters start to see things like employers will have to pay trillions of dollars to the
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government for this plan, r r. >> we'll hear the candidates in iowa for sure. i'm sure they'll talk about all of this. coming up, president trump's message revs up as the jobs report exceeds expectations. but first, speaker pelosi weighing in on medicare for all. >> i'm not a big fan of medicare for all. i'm up for the debate. i think we should have had health care for all. right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering seven things every medicare supplement should have. it's yours free just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free, and
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better than expected jobs report out today that helped push the s&p and nasdaq to highs this morning, and it gave the president something to tweet about amid all the impeachment news. you can see the dow up to 251 points, and the jobs number showed third quarter growth. we have cnn's christine romans. >> we learned the summer was a little stronger than we expected. august and september were higher, in october, hundreds of new jobs created in the economy.
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the unemployment did go up one-tenth of a percent, probably because new people did come into the labor market, comfortable with what they're hearing about the labor market from their family and friends and trying to get a job. manufacturing, that is 100% the gm strike. that gm strike took almost 50,000 workers out of the labor market for about six weeks, 41 days. this is where you're feeling the brunt of the trade war. but that last column there, that is 100% the gm strike. x the gm strike. you're still seeing the financial market a little wobbly here. average job creation for the year is about 167,000 net new jobs each month. you can see that is still steady hiring by american employers, but it's not as robust as we've seen in years past. nia? >> thanks, christine.
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we have gia joining us. you heard her talk about the gm workers on strike. the president still thought there would be jobs growing hav overall is not going to affect the economy, it's just about 12% of unemployment. i think what is more important is you'll see that manufacturing number fall over into other sectors. if that were to be sustained and if you were to see a broader slowing in hiring, i would think that would be a problem. today's jobs report was really a positive sign that that isn't happening yet, or if it isn't happening, it isn't happening in a concerted way. >> this summer there was some
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concern about a recession. i guess some of these numbers put that to bed, some of those fears. there is an investor saying trump is playing with fire. trump's immigration and trading policies is hurting business. trump is playing with fire. if the president stays on the current course, economic data will be weaker by the time of the election, no question. these are comments by michael cembalest at jorksp morgan. what do you think of these comments? >> the labor market takes a long time to shock. as we are seeing the investment slow, you can see it start to impact the broader economy. it's not clear how much of that is just a global slowdown versus a trade war, but to the extent at which it is the trade war, you could really see that slow
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topping our political radar, president trump has invited the world series champs to the white house on monday. the washington nationals returned to d.c. last night after wednesday's amazing game 7 win over the houston astros. some people booed the president when he attended sunday's game. the team's victory parade is tomorrow here in washington, and i will be there. a big halloween treat for julian castro after warning supporters he'll have to quit the race unless he raises $800,000. yesterday was his best fundraising day since august and today he's back in iowa. president trump no longer wants to be a new yorker. in a three-part tweet, he announced he is moving his permanent residence to palm beach, florida and will live in
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mar-a-lago once he is out of the white house. president trump says he cherishes new york and its people, but politicians treat him badly despite the millions he pays in taxes. the "new york times" maggie hab haberman broke the story. here's what she thinks might be behind the change. >> he's going to pay far less taxes in florida than he would in new york. florida have a no-state income tax. the taxes became more onerous in new york after the tax bill the president signed into law. i think this also says something about his post-presidential future and the fact that new york is patrol not such a welcoming place for him. >> president trump has visited mar-a-lago five times more than trump tower in new york. we've seen from some of the politicians there, essentially they're saying, boy, but
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interesting for the florida men. >> florida now has a republican governor, two republican senators, a republican legislature and it's much more welcoming politically for him than it is in new york where folks protest and all kinds of unrest whenever he goes back up there. i do expect the president to spend more time in p flar. we have a lot of that. >> when he goes around down there, i imagine he'll be saying, i'm one of you now. ment stomp up next, barack obama in iowa. >> back in 2007 about this time, we heard people saying america is not ready for a black president, and we hear people saying, i'm okay with it, but my
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let's listen in. >> and med kafr ficare for all of that. >> if you've had a chance to read the plan, you'll see no one gets left behind. some of the people working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. and life insurance and auto insurance and car insurance. some will work for medicaid. and there is a five-year transition support for everyone, because what this is about is how we strengthen america's middle class and how we make sure that in transitions, no one gets left behind. it's right there in the plan and it's fully paid for. >> are you building on bernie sanders' medicare for all plan? have you reached out to him about this? >> i called him but he hasn't returned my call yet. i'm just out here telling you
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why i'm running for president. i feel like i'm out here every day talking about why i'm running. i've spent my lifetime fighting for working families. and today i got to announce a plan where working families who are projected to spend $11 trillion over the next ten years can see those docosts go to zer. people who, with a plan, are struggling now. a plan for someone who has good health insurance but face rising premiums, rising co-pays, rising out of pockets for health care coverage. see a solution. that's the really that government ought to play. it shouldn't be on the side of
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giant drug companies and protecting their profits, it ought to be on the side of the american people, and working have a real chance to build somd. $11 trillion in payments over the next ten years will be a real boost for families around this country. >> how are you going to ensure the american people that you're going to pass this? >> that's what i believe democracy is all about. you get out, you dream big and you fight hard for what you believe in. we talked about things americans support across this country. we get out there and fight for it. look, the. these are all things we can do.
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. they talk about dreaming small, no. then if he fight for things that most american people want to see. people want to see an america where they can get health care from doctors they trust, not just the ones the insurance companies tell them they have to go to. they want to be able to get. they want to get the drugs their doctor recommends and have some insurance d. to. to have a chance and not have to pay for child care. these are the things we can do and do together. we just have fight for it.
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>> have y >> that's elizabeth warren in des moines, iowa, answering questions about the details of how she would pay for med dare f -- medicare for all. we're going to jeff zeleny who is in iowa. jeff, what did you make of these questions that elizabeth warren has been dodging for the last several weeks. >> reporter: there is no question that senator warren is trying to stop some of the questions that her rivals have been asking about how she is going to pay for the plan. now there is daylight between her and sanders because of the medicare for all. so this is going to be part of her speech until the iowa caucuses. it seemed many senators were rushing to get on bernie's bill.
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now the positively -- she says medicare will not go up, but if some of the estimates of how expensive this plan many, certainly anyone will be asked houpd. details don't matter dwight yet. she noted that. >> indeed, and this is something they have been together on this issue, so we are seeing a bit of a separation. nia, what i'm seeing on the ground here is all the candidates are arriving here in iowa for a big event, the
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biggest event before the iowa caucuses. there is a divergence here. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren on one side, and then there is a moderate group, people to judge. they all just want accountability. who is the strongest to take on donald trump. >> thanks for that context. less than 100 days to go before those caucuses. thank you for joining us on the iowa caucuses. brianna keilar joins us after a quick break.
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