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hello on a saturday. you are live. i'm ana cabrera. some very big things certain in washington, some big things are not. first no government shutdown. house senate and the white house managed to agree on enough to put a spending bill in front of the president and he signed it. so a possible government shutdown averted. now the less certain part, impeachment. as of right now saturday afternoon the speaker of the house still has not handed over the articles of impeachment to the senate. that's despite the historic impeachment vote in the house on wednesday. nancy pelosi is delaying this necessary next step saying she needs more information on how this senate part willing down. the freshly impeached president is in florida where he'll spend
the holidays. on friday he accepted the house's invitation to deliver a state of the union address. that is set for the first week of february. whether that speech will happen before, after or during a presidential impeachment trial in the senate. let's get to west palm beach florida not far from the president's resort. littin home is there. the president's twitter feed today is strangely quiet. what is on the president's agenda this weekend? >> well, ana, the rest of the weekend looks anything like today he spent the die at the golf course. just about two hours he's going to be speaking to the turning point usa action summit, students that will be a friendly audience, just to give you an idea of other people who have spoken. rudy giuliani, sean hannity, don jr., a supportive crowd. as for the rest of the weekend and the two weeks, i spoke to
someone who says that white house aides are hoping he'll spend that time preparing for that senate trial. i have o to note there is concern. they're putting together a plan for the trial but they are concerned the longer he's down here at mar lauga, the more access is he'll have to outside influence. you have to keep this in mind. these members a lot of them are riz friends. he has austoften run by them wh he's doing. he mocked jeff sessions there. this is a real concern of theirs, they might steer him in a different direction than the white house is hoping he'll go. >> and the president this week besides being impeached by the house is getting pushback from conservatives as well. a super pauk was formed by notable republicans aimed at stopping the re-election. we saw that op-ed come out in that leading christian magazine, again call for the president's removal. i want to read you this, this is
in "the washington post" by jeff flake, he writes, if there ever was awe time to put country over party it is now. by putting country over party you might just save the grand ole party before it's too late. are white house officials showing any sign of feeling this pressure? >> ana, they're really not right now. the white house and prime, the administration, really sectioned off a lot of these people and goes on the attack. jeff flake is somebody who president's president trump has attacked time and time again particularly when he held office. this is not going to be something the white house dwelds on or feels pressure on. given the fact they will say he was a never-trumper. it's going to be the same with the super pac. he believes all of those are never-trumpers. where you're going to start seeing the pressure is with these certain senators actually sitting senators in office right now, if they start to ask questions, i'm talking about the mitt romneys, the ben sass's,
they're not 100% if he's on the president's team. we have seen unity in the senate and house. but that's where you'll start seeing that pressure, from the ones they're not quite sure they're onboard with president trump. >> littin holmes for us, thank you very much. congressman tim ryan voted to impeach the president. you actually challenged pelosi for the speakership but now you are praising her and how she's handled this impeachment vote. i want to read a quote from plit kwoe quotes you as saying she's the best politician the democrat has seen since lyndon johnson. when asked if he could have done, he added probably not. she's literally in a class by herself. why do you say that? >> just watching her operate over the last few weeks and months, i think the whole
anymore impeachment thing has given the country an opportunity to reel see how good she is. and waiting until the exact right moment, getting a lot of pressure for impeachment but not taking the bait. and waiting until the exact right moment to move forward with impeachment, when some stuff about president trump came out, when some of our moderate members, especially with military backgrounds, started to move a little bit. and then she moved with i think perfect timing. and then really in the last week to watch her operate when the nairtive trying to come out of the republican party was, we're obsessed with impeachment, can't get anything else done, washington shut down, and the reality is we passed a huge biu bipartisan appropriations bill that democrats got huge wins in, in envisit, education, health care, research, cutting-edge technology investments, department of energy, we did very very well. that was a buy partisan deal.
the usmca trade agreement, we haven't had one in the last 18 years that i've been in congress. she was able to do that all at the same time. you can't deny her skill. >> let's talk about her strategy, i guess, in this next step. she won't commit to sending over the impeachment articles until she's assured of the process of that chamber. why might she see having some kind of leverage here? >> well, i think, you know, this is playing out kind of technically on capitol hill where as you know and many people who follow this stuff know, that there's always this huge tension between the house and the senate. more so sometimes than between democrats and republicans in the house or democrats and republicans in the senate. the tension's really between the house and the senate. this is par for the course. i will say that the strategic high ground maneuver that's happening by speaker pelosi is that over the holidays, the next
two weeks, at holiday dinners, christmas dinners, new years parties, this is going to come up. why isn't mitch mcconnell allowing people to testify? why have they already made a decision? why won't they, the republicans in the senate, allow documents? this is a kangaroo court. >> you sound a lot like republicans and what they were saying in the house, the kangaroo court. what i'm hearing you say that they're going to feel the pressure when they're back home in their districts from their con stit woernts and maybe that will influence the process that is eventually agreed upon? >> yeah. i think so. and i will say, look, we wanted more people to testify. we wanted more documents. it was the president of the united states who told his people, mick mulvaney his chief of staff and others, they weren't allowed to testify in the house hearings. that was coming from the white house. i will say this, you mentioned it in your last segment -- not
that, a few minutes ago -- that this new articles coming out, this op-ed from the christianity magazine, the group run by steve schmitt and other republicans who are starting the lincoln project, that's happening now all at the same time. i think this is going to start widening a little bit and you may start seeing the ground shift a little bit under the republicans' feet. >> while we wait and watch and are in this holding pattern, let me ask you about the 2020 election. we learned 76% of americans see the economy as good right now. this is the highest ranking in nearly 20 years. now, that's nationally. i want to ask you specifically about ohio, your home state, because no republican has ever won the white house without winning ohio. do you think 76% of people in your state believe the economy is good? >> i don't think so. you know, just saying is the
economy good? you know, yeah, it's good. but am i still struggling? is the middle class still struggling? people still living paycheck to pay check. are prescription drug costs still eating into disposable income? those are there for the vast majority of americans. i wouldn't take the bait on that particular question in that particular poll. i think while people are maybe stabilized, they still have huge debt, college debt, personal debt, mortgage debt. people are still struggling underneath that. i think joe biden gets this and he hit that hard during the debate a few days ago, where he understands this. i think that's what gives him the edge in the democratic primary and against trump. because if i can say quickly, trump is making the same mistake that hillary clinton made. the economy is going great. we got to keep it going. trump is saying how great it is.
but if the vast majority aren't connecting with that he's going to look out of touch and joe biden will not. that will give him an advantage. >> congressman tim ryan, good to have you with us. just to remind our viewers you were in the race for the 2020 white house race and now are endorsing joe biden. good to have your perspective on all things. joe biden hot of his performance at the democratic debate, what he has to say about democrats who celebrate impeachment. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." verizon's important to us because we facetime with her grandparents all the time. (announcer) when you have the best network, you wanna give the best network. feliz navidad! (announcer) this holiday, you can gift america's most reliable network and the latest iphone. i would probably give it to her grandparents so they can take tons of photos.
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right now we are just over a month away from the first in the nation caucus in iowa and a slew of presidential candidates are there today, senator elizabeth warren, booker, klobuchar and joe biden, all crisscrossing the state holding events. earlier biden spoke on impeachment and whether it's cas for sell braigts by his heart. >> the fact is there's nothing to celebrate about. it's a sad moment in the country. and there's -- don't get me wrong, i think it's unfair that donald trump -- and have to face charges that were made. the idea that it's worth celebrating i find counterproductive because it's nothing to celebrate. >> political reporter arlette
saenz is on the ground. what has been biden's over arching message on this tour there? >> well, ana, we are in sheridan iowa. biden has repeatedly when he talks about impeachment, he says ha his focus, while the house and senate is doing their work, his focus is going to be on making the case that he is the best candidate to defeat president trump. that's something you hear him stress over and over again as he did this morning at an event in autumn wau, iowa. he repeated this argument which he made earlier this week, when he talked about the need for bipartisan coopration, and said that he understands why people may not want to work with republicans, given his own personal family history. but they still need to move aside from that. take a listen to what he had to say in actum water today. >> no one running for president
has more reason to be upset and angry. no one running who has had their family and only surviving son attacked viciously. i don't think we're all going to hold handles and sing kumbaya when this is over but i say it because it's the only thing we'll get anything done. >> biden went on to say that republicans and democrats need to work on consensus to try to bring unity to the country. now, if an impeachment trial does move forward in the senate, there are several senators running for president who are going to be par tag in that trial, amy klobuchar, bernie sanders, cory booker. today amy klobuchar here in iowa, she said that she might have to skype into iowa events if she's over in washington for those -- that senate trial. but all these candidates are certainly going to be placing a
lot of focus here in the states. we are now 44 days out from the caucuses. >> you mentioned klobuchar has raised more than a million dollars in the 24 hours after the debate. thank you for that reporting. not only was in the last debate of the year but also it included the smallest group yet, seven candidates, five men, two women. they took the stage almost 24 hours to the moment president trump was impeached. here's our serrior political writer. we are just 44 days out. >> yay. >> i knew you knew that number because you are a numbers guy and you're counting down approximately worth noting. the data came and was collected before the debate. that being said, let's start with who democrats like the most right now. >> i mean look, joe biden has led this race since the very beginning. if you look at our polling this week, you see that biden was up against at 26%, bernie sanders
at 25%. clear lead for biden. if you look at the averages, all the numbers are pretty close by to where we have been speaking. joe biden has an edge but not substantial. he's a front-runner but vulnerable. >> holding steady. when you look at just favorability though and so you break the numbers down a little bit it shifts right? >> this is interesting to me. do you have a favorable or unfavorable view? we see that bernie sanders is the best liked. his favorable 74%. his net favorability rating plus 54 points. joe biden is down. i think what's so important in a primary, it's not just about being liked. it's about being moved. most of the dand dats are well liked by a majority of the folks. there's 52% who like both joe biden and bernie sanders. among those, joe biden leads by 20 percentage points. that i think is the key, is that biden is ask able to connect
with those who like both he and bernie sanders. >> when you put them against trump, if the election were held today who would win? >> i think this is important. electability is so important in a democratic primary. right now 40% of democratic primary voters in our poll say they believe joe biden has the best chance of beating donald trump. that's more than any of the other democrats. are these democratic primary voters correct in this belief? we see that if you look at the horse race matchup, you will see joe biden has a five-point lead over donald trump. all the other democrats do a little worse. it seems to me when you look at who has the best chance, democrats believe joe biden has the best chance, and the polling tends to back that up. >> our latest poll with biden 49%, sanders -- biden with the largest gap there. last question.
we talked about the debate which was just thursday night. who do you think helped themselves the most? >> i've watched all of these, on replay, do all this stuff. in all the debates prior to this one joe biden was not at his top notch. i've gone back and watched against paul ryan in 2012. he was a really good debater. this year they've tended to be a weak point. this was his best by war far. he had answers. he wasn't talking about things he shouldn't have. biden is a front-runner, put in a performance he needed to. he might have helped himself a little bit. amy klobuchar, you mentioned she raised that money. she attacked pete buttigieg. she wants to displace him and be the iowa candidate. if you can win in iowa you might be able to win the primaries overall. >> good to have you hear. >> happy holidays. happy hanukkah.
>> merry christmas. ahead, a republican state law mark is accused of taking part in domestic terrorism. now he's taking a page out of trump's impeachment to defend himself. details next. m a long line of haberdashers. we chose eleanor. it was great-grandma's name. so we're in this little town near salerno and everyone has dad's eyebrows. help your family discover their unique story, with a gift from ancestry. helpitintroducing the new braava jet m6 robot mop. with an adjustable precision jet spray and advanced pad system braava jet breaks up messes and gets deep in corners. braava jet. only from irobot. ♪ ♪
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he took an oath to support the constitution and laws of this country but now a law mark is accused of planning and participating in angts of political violence againstst u.s. government. matt shay is taking a page out of the president's impeachment to defend why he isn't resigning or even apologizing. sara sidner has details. >> reporter: on a washington state lawmaker is now being accused of domestic terrorism. >> thank you, this just seeks to put this to a vote of the people. >> in a stunning finding, this washington state republican lawmaker who's facing accusations of domestic terrorism against the country he swore to serve, that's according to an investigation commission by the washington state legislature. >> article one is adopted.
>> and the state rep is using president trump's impeachment as part of his defense. it's now forwarded the report against matt shay to the fbi and u.s. attorney. the five-month-long probe found he participated in an act of domestic terrorism against the u.s., engaged in the training of youth and young adults to fight a holy war and advocated the replacement of united states democracy with a thee okocracy and a killing of all males who don't agree. in 2014 in bunkerville, nevada, in 2015 in priest river, i'd how, and in january 2016, in burns, oregon, he engaged with militia members of the wildlife ref oourj. that ended with state law
enforcement moving in to remove armed militia members and ultimately killing one after a police chase. last night shay defended himself in a statement on facebook saying in part, like we are seeing with our president this is a sham investigate. he added i will not back down. i will not give in. i will not resign. >> the house republican leadership says that shay has now been removed from the caucuses and from his ranking positions. they say it's too serious of an issue. he also did not take part in any interview for the investigative report. he did not return calls from cnn. >> all right, sara sidner, thank you. avenue early morning fire at a las vegas apartment complex killed six people and injured 13 others. investigators are trying to figure out what caused this fire which erupted just before sunrise. people jumped out of wows to escape. a neighbor scribed how he and others tried to get people to
safety. >> people just started jumping and i tried to help them. they were jumping from the second floor, third floor, a lady i think she was pregnant, hit her head, her and her husband, took her to the doctor. i hope he's doing all right. i few people dropped. i think another guy broke his leg jumping from the third floor. people were trying to get out. >> investigators say the fire seems to have started in the kitchen area of one apartment. residents told fire crews the building had no heat and some people may have been using their stoves to keep warm. coming up, just mercy, a new movie depicting the fight too free an innocent man from death row is receiving rave reviews. i spoke to brian stevenson, the man who's work and book inspired the movie. >> we have a criminal justice system that treats you better in you're rich and guilty than poor and innocent.
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democrats and republicans can hardly agree on anything these days. but one thing thing and did agree on is criminal justice reform. one year ago today, president trump signed the first step act, with bipartisan support. as a result more than 3,000 inmates were released from prison. critics were quick to point out it only addressed prison refoirm, not sentencing refoirm. six months later the just it's department announced it would resume capital punishment after two decades. a new movie just mercy tells the true story of walter mcmillan who was wrongly convicted of murder and served six years on death row.
he was exonerated with the help of a young lawyer, brian stevensan. it's dist ribbited my warner brothers and will be in theaters starting on christmas day. >> they convicted an innocent man. i was always taut to fight for the people who need it the most. >> you don't know what it is down there. they ain't got to have no evidence. >> how many of you all with with walter that morning? >> you ain't quitting? >> no, sir. . we all with you. >> i have to say i had a chance to see it. it is a powerful movie. i sat down with brian stevenson who's book, a true story of the site fight for justice, inspired the movie. he is also an exactive producer. >> you take people to death row and give us some insight into
the judicial system most people don't want too think about. why tell this story now? >> i cannontinue to worry about what's happened. we have the highest rate of intaursration in the world. we went from about 300,000 in 1972 to 2.2 million today. we have 6 million people on parole, 70 million americans with criminal arrest hist rears. when they try to get jobs or loans they're disfavored by that arrest history. we have a criminal justice system if you're rich and guilty over poor and innocent. that's not light or fair. the death penalty is ground zero of a lot of the excess that has characterizes how we've managed criminal justice over the last half century. for every nine people we've executed in this country, we've now identified one innocent
person who's been exonerated. >> the work you've been doing at the equal justice initiative in the part 30 years, you have been able to get the release, relief or reversal of more than 140 people wrongly convicted or unfairly sentenced to death. that is incredible when you think about those numbers and the amount of work each case takes. what struck me about the movie and the one story you focus in on, walter mcmillan, as somebody learning his story, as the facts are revealed, it's so obvious that he was wrongly convicted. and yesterday even as those facts are put out there, the truth almost didn't set him free. >> that's right. >> how do you explain that? >> i think we have allowed ourselves to be governed by fear and anger. and when you have people pushing these narratives of fear and anger, people will begin to tolerate things they shouldn't, accept things they shouldn't.
i think that fear and anger are the essential ingredients of injustice and oppression. in the '70s and '80s we said addicted people were criminals. we could have said that people with addiction and dependency issues have a health care need and need our health care system to respond. but revved up by that fear and anger and demonizing it became impossible to talk strategically. everybody wanted to be tough on crime, put people in prison and lock them up forever. in that sort of environment innocent people will be convicted. >> is there any evidence that the death penalty serves as a crime deterrent? >> no, no, in fig we tend to see increases in some of the places that are most actively implementing the death penalty. i think for a lot of people if the state can kill, if the
government can kill, it doesn't help advance the point that no one should kill. there's a kind of illogic to the death penalty in my view. we say we're going to teach people that killing is wrong by killing someone. most people who are in crisis, the mentally ill, people who are in the margins of society aren't going to be deterred by the threat of violence or death. >> so do you think there is any circumstance in which the death penalty is waurnltded? >> no for me, it's about, do we deserve to kill? i think if you focus the question on, does someone deserve to die? you can come up with those scenarios. but if you turn the question to, do we deserve to kill, we don't have a perfect system. and the death penalty requires a perfect system. if you make a mistake you don't have the ability to recover. >> as you know the supreme court just halted the trump administration's effort to
resume executions in federal death penalty cases after a 16-year hiatus. what's your reaction? >> i think that's the right response. whenever you try to use the death penalty for a political goal you're going to do things that are unjust. >> how do you square the trump administration's advocacy of the death penalty with the criminal justice reform like first step last year or the pardoning or commuting of sentences of people like alice marie johnson? >> i think it's progress where you've gotten to the point that you have people in both parties that recognize that reform is needed. it doesn't mean that people don't also say things that are echoes of this whole era of fear and anger. but it's really important to remember that leadership on these issues is not going to come from washington. you know, our criminal justice system is a state-based system. 90% of the people in our jails
and prisons are there based on state convictions. less than 10% of the prison population in this country is there as a result of a federal conviction. so the president and even the congress no matter what kind of refoirmds they implement will only have a small impact on what's happening nationwide. >> your work has taken on a new direction or another layer i should say, as you continue to e ploer the history of racial inequality and economic injustice with your legacy museum to enslavement and mass incarceration in alabama. >> i hope we can create a narrative of truth and justice. we are burd end by the legacy of leavery. the worst thing wasn't the involuntary servitude. we can end that. the worst thing was this myth we created that black people aren't as good, aren't fully human, are dangerous.
and that created this ideology of white supremacy, racial hierarchy, people can be pulled out of their homes, you can be talented, gifted, athlete, you can be a lawyer, but you still have to navigate these presimgs sumss of dangerousness. that's why i believed it was time to get out of the court and start talking about these larger issues. i have just seen what's happened in other parts of the world. there's been the willingness to talk. rwanda nz insist on telling you about the genocide. i go to berlin, you see the symbols and stones everywhere that mark the places where jewish families were abducted. there are no adolf hitler statutes in germany. they don't want to be thought of like that. in this country we haven't marked the places where leenkings took place.
i think that has to change. that was the motivation for creating the legacy museum in the national memorial which is dedscated to thousands of victims of lin chunk. >> my thanks to that conversation. see what happens when rescue workers true to pull a child from the rubble in syria after an air strike.
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cnn stkt mike pompeo is accusing russia and china of having blood on their hands after they vetoed a resolution that would have allowed aid to reach refugees. saying it's better than what the u.s. claims. the vote came at the end of a week that saw deadly air strikes and included an uptick in double tap strikes, when they attack and return to attack again. syria's white helmets have released a video they say shows just that happening as they rescued a 9-year-old girl.
arwa damon has more. >> reporter: that's a 9-year-old trapped under her collapsed home from an air strike. moments earlier, the civil defense volunteer you see in this video could hear her mother's faint cries from deep under the rubble. but then there is another warning. when the smoke and dust clears, she is still by islam's side but her mother's voice is gone. it's hard to describe, lathe tells us the following day, what it was like and realizing i couldn't hear her mother anymore. he destroyed to distract isna. he tries to focus her attention on freeing her.
he doesn't have the heart to tell her, her mother is dead. so are two of her little cousins. we are on the job, we sometimes have to have hearts of stone, lathe tells us. but in moments we melt, we really melt. the last five days have been especially mersiless. even by syria standards, with more than 50 civilians killed. lathe describes it as being the most deliberate andtense targeting to date. the rescuers are survivors and the dead, they're like family, lathe says. isna is sealed in his heart. the little girl who he saved but who's mother was stolen from her. arway damon, cnn. >> such a heartbreaking reality there. still to come this
jaw-dropping moment where one cruise ship crashes into another, six people are injured, when the cruise line is saying now. but first the air travel business is already one of the biggest polluters in the world. emissions are only going up. cnn's jon definite tarios look at how airports are making changes in the face of the climate crisis. >> reporter: with nearly 4.5 million air passengers, more people are flying than ever before. aviation is expected to account for a quarter of the global carbon budget by 2050. the industry is under pressure to change. bio files are renewable substitutes for fossil fuels. they will be essential to lowering emissions according to the international energy association. >> over time the potential is complete displacement for all of the fuel. >> reporter: here at los angeles international airport, the fuel
moments on board two carnival cruise ships that collided at port in cozumel. >> he's going to hit us next. >> the carnival cruise ship glory was pulling into port friday morning when it hit the carnival legend, which was docked. six passengers were injured on the carnival glory. polo sandoval is joining us now. officials say strong wind gusts may have caused the issue here. >> it seems it's back on its itinerary, back to new orleans. but really jarring moments. >> look at the damage. >> yes. they had to survey the damage here. they said after close inspection that the ship was safe enough to return to new orleans, as you point out, so that's where it was at the moment. a lot of the get guests on board
were greeted by a letter from the captain, saying an investigation is under way but they believe wind gusts and strong currents pushed this ship into another carnival ship. the ship has been inspected, six individuals aboard complained of minor injuries. authorities saying they were checked out by the on board medical staff and released. this is one of many incidents that we've seen in recent years that shake up passengers. but again authorities saying they're doing everything they can to ensure the safety of the passengers and to officially close the investigation as to a cause. >> what happens to the people on the ship? the ship is damaged, were they compensated? is their trip continuing? >> shaken but still on schedule at this point. they did say they would be issuing about -- or they would be issuing $100 of credit per state room they can spend on board before they pull into new orleans tomorrow.
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