tv CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield CNN February 8, 2020 9:00am-10:00am PST
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the white house. we have a new cnn university of new hampshire poll that released moments ago, and shows senator bernie sanders with a seven point lead three days ahead of the new hampshire primary. he is followed by former south bend mayor pete buttigieg, former vice president joe biden, and senator elizabeth warren. both sanders and buttigieg are coming off strong showings in the iowa cause of acticuses. last night during the final debate, many candidates went on the offensive, taking aim at buttigieg's lack of washington experience. >> mayor buttigieg is a great guy and a real patriot. mayor of a small city that's done some good things, has not demonstrated he has the ability, and we'll soon find out, to get a broad scope of support across the spectrum, including african americans and latinos. >> we have a newcomer in the white house, look where it got us. i think having some experience
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is a good thing. >> we need people with experience. that's why i'm worried about mayor pete. >> we need a perspective that will finally allow us to leave politics of the past in the past, turn the page, and bring change to washington before it is too late. >> cnn's ryan nobles is on the campaign trail in new hampshire. ryan, senator bernie sanders seems to be in strong position headed to tuesday's primary. >> yeah, he really does, fredricka. i know the sanders campaign in particular knows that this is going to be a close race. what the poll is showing us today is that he and pete buttigieg appear to be breaking away from the rest of the pack. that's not a surprise given both their strong showings in iowa last week. let's look at the numbers again. sanders now according to our poll, seven point lead with likely new hampshire primary voters ahead of buttigieg at 21%. look at joe biden's numbers, he is at 11%, pretty far back behind the two in the top tier.
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and a disappointing showing for elizabeth warren as well, only at 9% at this point. tulsi gabbard, a bit of a surprise at 6%. and amy klobuchar who was hoping to have a bounce back in new hampshire and is only at 5%. that's where the numbers stand right now. if we dig in deeper into the numbers, fred, we learn a little more about the candidates as well. which democrat do you think has the best chance to win the general election. this is a strong number for bernie sanders. the respondents to the poll telling us 29%, almost a third of the respondents say they believe bernie sanders can win the general election, electability has been a difficult burden on sanders. there's been a lot of particularly moderate democrats that knocked his chances whether or not he could win the general election, and he seems to be turning the tide on that opinion. joe biden is strong in that department with 25%. pete buttigieg at 14.
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michael bloomberg hasn't competed yet and won't until super tuesday. one more statistic from the poll we took. we should note this poll was taken before the debate last night, the debate that happened last night did not influence results of this poll at all. this is an interesting question. which democrat would you not vote for under any circumstance, and look who comes in first place in this, the former vice president, joe biden, at 17%. elizabeth warren at 16%. bernie sanders at 11%. and again, this is an encouraging number for sanders because one of the knocks on him is that he can be polarizing, even within the democratic party. and these numbers reflect that he is perhaps changing that perception as well. across the board this is an impressive poll for bernie sanders. you should note, it should be an impressive poll for standards. new hampshire has been a strong state. he won the state by a wide
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margin in 2016. this is a state he is counting on as he heads into the primary season. these have to be encouraging numbers for him and his campaign. we should point, good poll for pete buttigieg as well, he has shown resilience, and there appears to be momentum behind his campaign, particularly with the moderate wing of the democratic party, if poll results are right, fred, it could be a showdown between sanders and buttigieg headed into the vote tuesday night. >> just three days away. thank you so much. meanwhile senator amy klobuchar is hoping to build off her strong debate performance from last night. she campaigns in new hampshire. >> reporter: senator klobuchar needed to have a strong showing in the debate with the new hampshire primary three days away, a moment she close to talk about is something that had been bothering her for many weeks, something she talked about on
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the campaign trail, especially in iowa. it is a comment that pete buttigieg said about the senate impeachment trial, and the senators who were involved in the trial. here's what senator klobuchar said on the debate stage. >> you said it was exhausting to watch and that you wanted to turn the channel and watch cartoons. it is easy to go after washington because that's a popular thing to do. it is popular to say, makes you look like a cool newcomer. i don't think that's what people want now. we have a newcomer in the white house, and look where it got us. >> during the debate she also took aim at bernie sanders. the question posed on the debate stage is whether or not any of the candidates felt uncomfortable having a democratic socialist, aka, bernie sanders, lead the ticket. senator klobuchar raised her hand, after the debate in the spin room she explained why she did. >> i don't know. i think sometimes people don't
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want to piss other people off on the debate stage and i think i have a job, that is to make the case to the democratic party and to independents that vote with us that are increasingly voting with us that i have different views than senator sanders, even though we get along. i have different views. >> reporter: did the attacks, comments, performance, did they work? her campaign tweeted she had raised $1 million already. her campaign manager tweeting as far as her performance, amy klobuchar, quote, nailed it. fredricka? >> thank you so much. joining me to discuss, jeff mason and alexi mccannon. good to see you both. jeff, let me begin with the new poll. sanders with a solid lead in new hampshire ahead of tuesday's primary. buttigieg not only surging six points to second place but also seems to be eating into biden's core support group.
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shows buttigieg is gaining ground with older voters, moderate conservative voters at biden's expense. how big a deal is this? >> has to be very concerning to vice president biden. probably one of the reasons he suggested last night in the debate he might get another gut punch in new hampshire. clearly some voters are beginning in the moderate lane of the democratic party who are beginning to fall in with pete buttigieg and deserting vice president biden. that's got to be concerning to him with senator sanders clearly he has to be pleased he is still ahead in new hampshire, is doing well there, and looks like it is coming down to those two. >> what about in primary races where ethnic diversity is in greater numbers among the electorate. buttigieg hasn't polled above the single digits, particularly with african-american voters since getting into the race, whereas biden held a strong hold on that demographic. does biden have anything to fear here in terms of losing black
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support while buttigieg continues to peak people's interest. >> i don't think wave seen polls yellow light that show african-american voters are ditching or shying away from joe biden after a bad performance in iowa and potentially upcoming poor performance in new hampshire. that will be the interesting dynamic of the race, especially as you see sanders and buttigieg emerge as two frontrunners in early states so far. i am curious to see whether someone like sanders polling better with black and brown voters than buttigieg performs in nevada and south carolina and whether or not buttigieg heads into those states and doesn't perform as well as we saw in iowa and new hampshire. when you talk to senior advisers from his team, they'll tell you polls show communities of color are disproportionately effected at higher rates than others. that means voters of color put greater emphasis on electability and that will bring them to buttigieg's side. that's something that remains to be seen in places like nevada
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and south carolina. there's more to courting voters, listening to fears, kernconcern hopes, dreams than looking at electability. >> former vice president biden expects to take a hit in new hampshire after the poor performance in iowa. take a listen. >> i took a hit in iowa, i'll probably take a hit here. traditionally bernie won by 20 points last time, usually it is neighboring senators do well, doesn't matter if it is this or the next, i view the first four encounters, two primaries and two caucuses as the starting point. >> jeff, you know, a little praise for a competitor and also lowering expectations. what's behind that? >> lowering expectations is spot on. at one point he said he was confident he would win in iowa, then came in fourth place. new hampshire, the polling shows he is not going to be at the top either. he is lowering expectations for sure, also saying that he's
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looking at playing the long game. he is not the only person on stage and off stage if you think about michael bloomberg who are in a long game for the democratic nomination. he is wanting to play down not only expectations about his performance there but importance of doing well in the first couple states. he is looking more long term, trying to assure voters and his donors who are concerned about his performance in the first couple of states. >> and buttigieg seems to be riding pretty high now. this impressive polling numbers for him, performance at the iowa caucuses. then he is also challenging the iowa caucuses with inconsistencies he says. how does this benefit him? >> it benefits him in the sense that he is publicly calling for more transparency and accuracy at a time voters around the country not just in iowa are still confused about what happened, especially after the rule changes, let's not forget were introduced to address
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transparency and confusion from the 2016 iowa caucuses. but there is a slippery slope there for buttigieg, given the narrow margin between himself and senator sanders from the iowa caucus. a canvas could result in senator sanders surpassing buttigieg. at the end of the day, if they care about the future of the democracy and of the country, good to call for more accurate results. >> we're looking at live pictures. michael j. fox promoting pete buttigieg there in new hampshire, and jeff, i wonder for pete buttigieg, is he running the risk, can you run the risk of being too confident? >> well, that's a good question. i think it is probably for any candidate in a race like this, it's never good to become too confident because you never know what will happen next. we have seen that throughout the last several months. vice president biden came in as the early frontrunner, then after the first votes that
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position has changed. you don't want to be overconfident, also don't want to peak too early. pete buttigieg seems to be peaking at a good time. it is important to emphasize this, still early. there's one nominating contest, the caucus in iowa. new hampshire is coming up, several more states, and the big super tuesday. you have the michael bloomberg factor coming as well, having not competed or at all competed in early states, putting all his money, figuratively and literally on super tuesday. >> and what is that bloomberg factor you see? he is putting a lot of money in ads, he is not a blip on the radar as pertains to iowa or potentially even new hampshire, but what's the motivation you see as to why he really is in the race, if it is not delegate count that he seems to be worried about or garnering, what's his role here? >> i think his team is focused
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on earning as many delegates as they can. that's in part why they feel so confident about skipping or looking past the first four early states, they opponent to the fact that iowa has 41 delegates out of something like 4,000. his team will say publicly and privately in different variations they're willing to spend whatever it takes to beat donald trump. i truly believe that's his mission. we have seen as much in reporting that says even if he isn't the nominee or if he drops out of the race, he will continue to pay his staff. i think that's because he is looking at the way the democratic national committee is a little anemic now, he is trying to create a parallel if not bigger sort of unofficial infrastructure for democrats that will ultimately help the eventual democratic nominee be more competitive with president trump in states they should be competitive with president trump, places like florida, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, north carolina. these states that don't have a lot of emphasis in early voting states because they're not part of that calendar process, but states that bloomberg and team know will be crucial to winning
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the election. it comes down to the electoral college, not the popular vote as we all know. >> good to see you both. thank you so much. >> thank you. tomorrow morning on cnn state of the union, jake tapper joined by senator bernie sanders, former mayor pete buttigieg, and dnc chairman tom perez. lots of questions coming their way, tomorrow morning, 9:00 eastern here on cnn. also, coming up here, political payback. president trump dismissing two key impeachment witnesses just days after his acquittal. how his administration is defending the controversial decisions. and disturbing details about the coronavirus, including the first american death. i talk with a doctor that's on the front lines of fighting the disease in new york city. and later, $650 hotel rooms and $17,000 cottage? the shocking report about how your taxpayer dollars are being spent.
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kayak. search one and done. our campaign is about ending a racist, broken criminal justice system. that has more people in jail. >> this is three days ahead of the primary race in new hampshire. you see senator bernie sanders. so in the aftermath of his impeachment acquittal, president trump is cleaning house, purging those that spoke out against him. friday, he fired two prominent witnesses that testified during his impeachment inquiry. alexand alexand alexander vindman and gordon sondland, ambassador to the european union. >> it was inappropriate, it was improper for the president to
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request, to demand an investigation into a political opponent, especially a foreign power where there's at best dubious belief that this would be a completely impartial investigation. >> was there a quid pro quo? as i testified previously with regard to the requested white house call and the white house meeting, the answer is yes. >> vindman's attorney issued a statement, blasting the firing, writing there is no question in the mind of any american why this man's job is over, why this country now has one less soldier serving it at the white house. lieutenant colonel vindman was asked to leave for telling the truth. his honor, his commitment to right frightened the powerful. democratic congressman from illinois and member of the house
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and oversight committees, good to see you, congressman. let me get your reaction to the president firing these two key witnesses that testified against the president in the impeachment inquiry. >> i thought it was disgraceful. it was clearly retribution for them telling the truth and also a signal to others to discourage or deter, prevent them from doing the same. but what i learned through this whole episode is that the quality, character of our public servants is extremely high and they are going to come forward and speak the truth and tell us and the american public about wrongdoing when they see it. >> during his testimony, lieutenant colonel vindman, the decorated war hero, purple heart recipient drew applause when he talked about how his family fled the soviet union when he was a child, how he assured his father he would be all right because he
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was telling the truth. take a listen. >> worried if you were putting yourself up against the president of the united states? >> deeply worried about it, there was the ultimate risk. >> why do you have confidence that you can do that and -- >> this is america, a country i served, defended, that all my brothers served, and here right matters. >> thank you, sir. yield back. >> earlier in the interview, congressman, you said you believe the firing was a signal to others, and we're just reminded about vindman and what his father even feared, but that he was still going forward with telling his truth. what specifically do you think the message is that the president is sending by the firings?
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>> well, it is the same type of message he tried to send by slandering, seeking retribution against the whistle-blower which is if you work in the trump administration or work in any part of the executive branch and you say anything negative about the president or come forward and tell the truth, there will be negative consequences for your career. the problem is for the president that when he did this previously with regard to the whistle-blower, the opposite of what he intended to happen actually occurred, which is that a parade of people came forward at that point. from marie yovanovitch to bill taylor to fiona hill, the list goes on and on, because i really do believe these folks put their country above their careers, and that's something that unfortunately the president doesn't understand. >> so the president also didn't stop at vindman and sondland,
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vindman has a twin brother that worked in the trump administration, national security office, he, too, was let go. robert wray, one of the attorneys that defended the president in the impeachment trial defending these firings last night here on cnn. listen. >> is it really in anybody's interest under the circumstances to have the both of them there or either one of them there? you know, i just -- before we jump on the revenge bandwagon, seems to me it is time for everybody to move on. >> so what is it if it is not revenge? >> it is clearly revenge. i don't think everyone should move on, i don't think we should kind of wipe it under the rug. i think this is a classic instance where basically revenge in this case meant not only negative consequences for lieutenant colonel vindman's career but also the career of his brother, a loved one, a family member. this is something you would see in an authoritarian regime, not what should be happening here.
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and i also believe that again this will trigger backlash, not what the president is intending, but will send the opposite message to others to buck up and tell the truth. >> all of them in the white house are serving at the pleasure of the president. if the president says he wants to dismiss someone, whatever the circumstance, is there anything you or your fellow members of congress can do? >> i think we have to look at the authorities and the law on this. one interesting thing is the deputy secretary of defense wrote a letter to senator schumer in mid december, assuring him there would be no reprisals against lieutenant colonel vindman or anyone in the employ of department of defense that came forward and testified. obviously in my humble opinion this particular episode is a
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violation of that assurance, and there's going to be interesting questions i'm sure that are asked of department of defense when they come to the senate or to the house for either appropriations requests, confirmations, or permission to adjust, modify programs which they routinely do. perhaps there will be consequences there as well. >> congressman, good to see you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you very much. up next, more than 700 deaths and counting, including one american, the coronavirus spreading drastically the past few days. now there are serious questions about china's response.
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an american has now died in china from the coronavirus. the u.s. embassy in beijing says the 60-year-old died in the city of wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak. china suffered the dead lee is day in the outbreak, reporting 86 deaths friday, bringing the total number of fatalities to 722. there are more than 34,000 confirmed cases worldwide. cnn has also learned some 800 americans were evacuated on flights from wuhan on friday, have been returned to the u.s. joining me, the senior director of the special path general program. let me get reaction to spike in deaths in china. how concerned should everyone
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be? >> it is unfortunate. in the next 24 hour time frame, the coronavirus that started six weeks ago will exceed the deaths in sars which was over nine month time frame. it is certainly a global issue and we need to have more eyes on this. >> i spoke with congressman last hour, he led hearings on the coronavirus on capitol hill this week, he cautioned the quarantine process used in the u.s. and around the world may not be as effective as he hoped. is there concern for you as well? >> well, these types of measures certainly historically don't seem to be effective, they lower the risk, in terms of risk communication, people are less apt to provide information if infected. only time will tell if this has been very effective or not. >> to the information issue, the congressman expressed issues about that, the flooding of
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misinformation. sometimes that's just as harmful if not more so. where are you on i guess the information out there, difficult for people to discern what to believe and not believe because of social media. >> that's right. it is very difficult. we are not only responding to the actual outbreak, but the contagion of misinformation people are feeding into. there are a number of reports that are false or rumors, people need to look at the facts, need to look at public health agencies that actually are reputable to get information, and to be able to share it, not through rumors. this is a time for unity and science, not for folks to go about their way and present false information, creating more fear and hysteria. >> you're in the center of the preparedness effort in new york. what can you reveal about what's being done? >> i think generally on a national scale we need to brace for potential pandemic situation, given the trajectory of the outbreak.
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health systems around the world need to look at planning, pandemic planning, and begin to plan for long term impact. >> you have been reporting on several cruise ships in asia under quarantine, one in the u.s. that was checked, cleared by the cdc. are we at a point people should be considering whether cruises or any other close quarter activity should be at least temporarily halted? >> per the cdc, the rest of the general american public is low, but certainly this is global concern we are monitoring closely from a city, state, local, global standpoint. certainly now, go about your way as you normally would, but continue to look at the developing epidemic as it is unfolding. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. all right. still ahead. pricey payments. new report finds the trump
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welcome back. cnn recently learned the white house is actively working to keep information about the president's travel costs from going public. a new report sheds light on why that could be. cnn's tom foreman has more on how taxpayer dollars are flowing straight to the trump organization. >> reporter: hotel rooms at $650 per night for dozens of stays. close to 4 hunl$400 a night fors more, a whopping $17,000 a month to use a three bedroom cottage. those are bills for secret service agents lodging at trump properties during presidential travels.
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according to a new "the washington post" analysis of available public records. and the post says the documents collectively show more than $471,000 in payments from taxpayers to trump's companies. the trump organization says that's total nonsense. we provide rooms at cost, and for anyone to suggest otherwise is not only inaccurate but an outright lie. eric trump once claimed the same about when his father travels to the properties. >> saves a fortune. if you go to the hotel across the street it would be 500 bucks a night whereas we charge them 50 bucks. >> vacations, you want vacations, you're not in the right business. >> reporter: there was a time on the campaign trail when donald trump said he would hardly leave washington at all if elected. >> i promise you, i will not be taking very long vacations if i take them at all. >> reporter: but that was then. now between golfing, visits to golf courses, time away from
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d.c. as the post puts it, he spent more than 342 days, one-third of his entire presidency at his own clubs and hotels and charges the government for it. >> i'm not looking for credit, but i give up my salary. i get zero. >> reporter: the president often bragged about how he doesn't accept a salary, and all he does during frequent trips to the mar-a-lago resort in florida, or as he called it the winter white house. getting to the bottom line cost for taxpayers is tough. the secret service is woefully behind in public reporting. so much so. the post notes the half million price tag covers only a fraction of the cost for a fraction of the time trump has been in the office and out of it on the road. for all of that, the secret service sent cnn a statement saying they used resources judiciously, can't discuss
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details how they protect the president, and that seems to suit team trump just fine. indeed, the administration is resisting congressional demands for better reporting of costs until at least after the next election. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> let's bring in a former secret service agent and cnn law enforcement analyst. jonathan, good to see you. >> nice to see you, fred. >> is it the case that options are limited for the secret service, because after all, they have to stay near wherever the president is. >> you're right, fred. listen, we're talking about this reporting, $650 a night for a room is really shocking. but when you look at it, you have to look at it two ways, objectively and subjectively. whatever the cost, is it appropriate, the answer is yes. why? because it fits within their operational and administrative guidelines, serves a security need. at the end of the day, it is market rate.
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it is not like they're being overcharged. when i was with the secret service, i had charges that were in excess of a thousand a night with some protectees. with the president and because of the extensive cost that's expended, they're operating at the lower end of operational tolerances when it comes to expenditures at trump properties. i want to be very realistic here. the secret service is not going out and overspending at trump properties, they're being judicious in fiscal responsibility to spend the minimum amount that's possible to make sure their operational security needs are met. the rest of the footprint and security apparatus is off site. when you look at this subjectively, just as reporting was a moment ago, the president says i am not taking vacations, not going to do this, eric trump said we charge $50 a night.
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that's not true. it is really the optics of how it is. >> saying that the president has spent 342 days at trump owned properties since he entered the white house. what would be the frequency of secret service traveling with the president? >> listen, this president has thrown out typical years ago, there's nothing typical about president trump and the way the administration operates, the way he travels. the secret service can't dictate how much the president can travel, where he can stay. as you said in the intro, we're kind of bound by the president's determination of where he wants to go. this goes to what i said before in the past, costs associated with protection i feel are being
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politicized. the secret service doesn't have control over where he goes. all we can do is put forth best in class security program around. >> the criticism that is out there is less about criticizing the secret service and more about choices and decisions the president is making which thereby impacts the secret service, trying to keep that information from going public. >> that's exactly it, fred, but the secret service is getting dragged into this political fight. what's the end result? what are you going to do? is congress going to tell the president not to travel? are they going to cut back the budget of the secret service? right now, we're caught in this battle of secret service expenditures at trump property. what are we going to do to get out of this. >> we'll leave it there. good to see you. thanks very much. >> thanks, fred. up next, angry, unapologetic. president trump lashing out after being acquitted.
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following his acquittal, president trump is defiant despite impeachment in the house. the only apology the president seems willing to give is to his family. the president resorted to hurling insults, firing key impeachment witnesses. here is cnn's senior political analy analyst john avalon with the reality check on trump's
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nonapology tour. >> it is supposed to be a solemn occasion, impeachment and acquit alf the president of the united states. here is how bill clinton ended. >> i want to say how profoundly sorry i am for what i said and did. >> here was donald trump. >> it was all [bleep]. >> the republican senators that learned lessons from impeachment? this was predictable. it is a lesson from roy cone, infamous lawyer for the mob. he had a simple code, always attack, never apologize. trump learned the lesson well to his combative approach to politics. >> i deeply app low gize. >> are you trying to say
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apologize? >> the day began with president trump at the national prayer breakfast. writer arthur brooks talked about jesus' teaching. trump took to the podium, said arthur, i don't know if i agree with you, proceeded to question the faith of nancy pelosi and mitt romney. after that, all eyes were on the speech trump was scheduled to give at the white house in safe space of partisan supporters. it was angry, very strange, even by trump standards. despite all of the evidence, the president stuck to insistence that he was the victim. >> we went through held unfairly. did nothing wrong. picked up a phone call that was a totally appropriate call, i call it a perfect call. they brought me to the final stages of impeachment. >> the real choice were left for political opponents. >> it was evil, it was corrupt, it was dirty cops, it was leakers and liars, bad people. my opinion it's almost like they
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want to destroy our country. >> this went on without notes for more than an hour, almost as long as the state of the union address. trump's patent moves of deny, project, deflect were on full display. trump's feelings and alternative facts will be analyzed by social media until supporters believe they're real. this is how the president drives disinformation while dividing the country. so the man dubbed teflon don doesn't want us to have a common set of facts because facts are often not on his side. as with the original teflon don, john gotti, mob boss represented by roy cone. >> i want to apologize to my family for having them have to go through a phony rotten deal by some very evil and sick people.
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>> well, the word was there, even if the spirit was not. that's your reality check. >> thank you so much, john avalon. still ahead, oscar weekend is here. as hollywood honors the best and brightest, new movie shines light on life before the me too era. i talk with the director of the movie "the assistant" coming up. and the world watched their every move, now cnn has the story of the most famous royal family, the windsors, inside the royal dynasty, sunday, february 16th here on cnn. f six, this network is one less thing i have to worry about. (vo) why the aceves family chose verizon. we all use our phones very differently. these two are always gaming and this one is always on facetime. and my oldest is learning to be a pilot. we need a reliable network because i need to know he's safe. 'cause as soon as he lands, he knows he better call mama. mama! (laughter) (vo) the network more people rely on, gives you more. like plans your family can mix and match starting at just $35. so, everyone gets the plan they need. and apple music on us.
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hello again, everyone. thank you for joining me this saturday. i am fredricka whitfield. we have breaking news in the race for the white house. new cnn university of new hampshire poll is now out, just three days before the new hampshire primary, and senator bernie sanders is on top with a seven point lead over his closest competitor, former south bend, indiana mayor pete buttigieg. followed by former vice president joe biden and senator elizabeth warren. sanders and buttigieg have strong showings from the iowa caucuses. ryan nobles is in new hampshire. what else can we take away from the polls? >> reporter: well, there's no doubt, fred, that this
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