we explore that moment in british history and the crisis that unfolded in the british monarchy. we look at how the two princes came together and then drifted apart. max foster, cnn, ken sing to be palace, london. be sure to tune into an all new cnn original series "the windsors requests" that premieres tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific only on cnn. hello on this saturday, i'm ana cabrera in new york, you are live in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with a cnn exclusive. nancy pelosi speaking candidly about president trump's impeachment. the house speaker insists that trump was not acquitted, doubling down on her stance that you can't be acquitted if there was no trial. in a sit-down interview with our christiane amanpour pelosi also defends her decision to rip up the president's state of the union speech.

>> i had no intention of doing that when we went to the state of the union. that was well into -- past the first third of it. now, i'm a speed reader so i was reading ahead, i knew what was there and i got past like about a third of it and i thought this is terrible. i made a niche in a couple pages thinking you ought to remember what's on this page, on this page, then i realize most every page had something in it that was objectionable. >> what about, though, the fact that the president seems liberated and this is about democratic politics so i'm not asking you to criticize here, but he was acquitted, his -- >> he was not -- there was -- >> by the senate. >> you can't have an acquittal unless you have a trial and you can't have a trial if you don't have witnesses or documents. he can say he's acquitted and the headlines can say acquitted but he's impeached forever, branded with that and not vindicated. even the senators were saying, yes t wasn't right but didn't have the courage to act upon that. >> except for. >> except for mitt romney, god

bless him. and then the president criticized him for using his faith to do something he knew was wrong. how could you -- well, i don't know if the person -- if the president is a person of faith. >> he criticized you about saying that you praise for him as well. >> i felt like if he is a person of faith he would recognize another person of faith. if he prayed he would recognize that other people do, even for him. >> jeremy diamond joins us now from washington. jeremy, pelosi continues to criticize the president who appears empowered by the outcome of the impeachment proceedings. >> he certainly s ana, let's look at the facts first because of what the speaker of the house nancy pelosi is saying here. president trump was acquitted by the senate. now, the speaker of the house can quibble whether or not that was a fair acquittal or not, but he was indeed acquitted by the senate under the constitutional process of impeachment. but the president certainly has become more emboldened since that acquittal and he has been unapologetic about his behavior

in this ukraine scandal that even those republicans who did vote to acquit the president have called problematic and not perfect as the president himself has claimed. the president in the wake of that acquittal he has been on a bit of a vindictive tour, he has exacted revenge against some administration officials who testified in those impeachment proceedings, most notably the lieutenant colonel alex vindman as well as the u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland. and the president also has become increase lengthily suspicious of the people around him at the white house. we've seen the president move to reinstate some loyalists including hope hicks, his long time communications director as well as johnny mcanti his long time body man. we are seeing the president retrenching himself here on himself and with his loyalists and certainly not having learned any lessons from that impeachment. >> and, jeremy, ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky also spoke with christiane and

he strongly denied trump's claims that ukraine is corrupt. what else is he saying? >> that's right. he did push back on president trump's claims that ukraine remains a corrupt country, insisting that he and his administration have done a lot to fight that image that was previously a very strong one in ukraine. he also talked about this notion of fresh start with the ukrainian government between the united states and ukraine. zelensky a former actor and producer he talked about the fact that he would like to be famous, would have liked to be famous in the u.s., but this isn't exactly how he envisioned t listen in. >> i can truly say when i was producer, script writer and actor i wanted to get oscar. i wanted to be very popular in u.s.a. now i'm very popular in u.s.a.

but i didn't want to find such way, but, you know -- but if this way will help ukraine, i'm ready for next call with mr. trump. >> and you hear zelensky there saying that he's really ready for his next call with president trump. he also said he would be willing to come visit the president at the white house or have the president visit him in ukraine. >> thank you, jeremy diamond for that reporting. you can see christiane's full interview with nancy pelosi and the ukrainian president on her show amanpour monday afternoon on cnn international. there are new questions about the independence of the justice department and attorney general bill barr. despite barr's public show of frustration that president trump's tweets make his job harder. now u.s. officials confirmed to cnn that barr is ordering a reexamination of some high

profile cases including the case of michael flynn. president trump's former national security adviser. and that revelation comes just days after cnn learned that barr had been pushing for flynn to be spared prison time and after senior justice department officials undercut federal prosecutors and their sentencing recommendation for another trump associate, roger stone. that move caused four federal prosecutors to quit the case and even more said to be considering walking out over concerns about the justice department's independence. with us now is cnn presidential histori historian tim neftali and jeff bauer. so, greg, let me ask you this first, are these normal actions for an attorney general? do you have any concerns about barr's behavior? >> ana, they are not normal in the least. as a former u.s. attorney i can tell you i've never heard of the type of thing that we saw this

past week where the attorney general reversed a u.s. attorney's recommendation with respect to a sentencing memorandum. and so in the absence of an adequate explanation, of course, most of -- most observers think there's something political about this and that's an awfully bad look for doj. no, it's not normal. it's causing a lot of concern within doj and i think that the attorney general will have to do a better job of explaining the stone decision and the flynn decision is just as bizarre because, look, mr. flynn pled guilty, he has admitted to his guilt in open court under oath to the judge. i can't imagine what the judge is going to do with respect to this motion to set aside his plea other than to deny it. >> earlier this week after the stone revelation came out that's when we learned about the flynn revelation and this was also after barr had gone on tv and denied he was acting under pressure from the president. let's remind our viewers what he said then. >> i will make those decisions

based on what i think is the right thing to do and i'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody and i said at the time whether it's congress, newspaper, editorial boards or the president. >> president, tim, he says. do you see that as a rebuke of the president? >> well, i think we should consider bill barr as somebody who has his own agenda. i think his agenda and the president's agenda are similar. the attorney general came back to government for some reason and he has a fanatical commitment to the expansion of presidential power. he would do that for any president. this president is particularly happy to see the expansion of power. bill barr when he was working for the american people but he served under george herbert walker bush, he counseled bush to pardon people who had been found guilty and indicted in the

iran-contra scandal. now he is using the power of government to investigate the efforts by mueller. why? why is he using taxpayer money to investigate an investigation? i think it has something to do with his view of presidential power and the fact that he doesn't like the fact that the mueller investigation happened, just as he didn't really like the fact the iran-contra investigation was conducted the way it was conducted. this is great for president trump, it's terrible for the american people and the attorney general owes us an explanation why he's doing this. >> what you said reminded me of something he said previously. this was in 2001 when he was describing his first stint at attorney general under president george bush and he talked about the department's protected status in this post-watergate era and he said, quote, you didn't mess around with it. you didn't intervene. you didn't interfere. which is, again, seems contrary, greg, to what he is doing here. what message is barr sending to

the men and women who work at the justice department and, you know, more broadly what does this mean for its credibility? >> unfortunately the message i'm sure that most are receiving within the department and certainly outside the department is that no matter how hard the men and women of the department work to get to the right decision under very difficult circumstances oftentimes, that there's the potential that for political reasons their hard work and their well thought out conclusions are going to be reversed, for no reason other than political considerations. that strikes at the very heart of what the department is not supposed to be about and so, you know, the department relies on two things, both doing its best to get the right result in very difficult circumstances and secondly and just as importantly trying to do everything it can to make sure the american people think that it's getting to the right result for all the right reasons and that politics don't come into play and i'm afraid

that at the end of this week there's a lot of doubt about that in america. >> president trump reflected on his impeachment during an interview earlier this week and he said he thinks of nixon more than anyone else. listen to this. >> i think of nixon more than anybody else and what that dark period was in our country and the whole thing with the tapes and the horror show. it was dark and it went on for a long time. every time in the white house i pass this beautiful portrait of various presidents, right? but the portrait of richard nixon i sort of -- i don't know, it's -- it's a little bit of a different feeling than i get from looking at the other portraits of presidents. >> what's your reaction to that? >> i'm interested in where he has the portrait of richard nixon. every first family can put the portraits where they want. i happened to visit the white house when george w. bush was president, one of the advantages of being a library director, you

get a tour, first lady gives you a tour. i looked around and said where was the nixon portrait and it was off past in a corner with herbert hoover, the first family did not want to see the portrait. >> it was out of the way. >> here is what i don't understand, a lot of things i don't, but here is one in particular that matters, what does the president, the current president, think he learned from richard nixon, this dark period? did he learn things not to do or did he learn how awful it can be for a corrupt president when the system works? i'm not sure what he learned from it. i will tell you one thing, if he learned anything from studying nixon he would know intervening in a criminal case that involves somebody who has knowledge that could affect you personally, i'm talking about roger stone, that's a crime. richard nixon was partly impeached or at least was going to be impeached for having dangled pardons in front of people that knew things about the cover-up that he didn't want people to know. that is just the same as the president promising pardons to people like roger stone.

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14-year-old suspect? >> reporter: we were at police headquarters earlier today they announced this arrest was a major milestone. we know he's 14 years old, he is now in custody, was actually arrested last night and investigators as you correctly point out believe ses the one that stabbed tessa majors on december 11th in that manhattan park. that has been nine weeks now of her family searching for answers and now perhaps at least some closure here now that they do have an arrest but again, these are at this point just an accusation here. we should mention they took into account a lot of evidence here, the grand jury considered blood analysis, surveillance video and when you read over the complaint it does paint a clearer and disturbing picture of what happened that day. this is what the district attorney said a little while ago. >> the allegations are really laid out in heartbreaking detail. the complaint paints a picture of the video evidence, the blood

evidence, the smartphone evidence, the i cloud evidence, the witness identification and the defendants' own statements that were rigorously collected and examined prior to this arrest and indictment. and it paints a gruesome picture of what this young woman endured in her final moments. as alleged, some of the last words she was known to have said was, help me, i'm being robbed. >> help me, i'm being robbed. it's what's laid out in the complaint here. keep in mind this is now the second arrest here, there was a 13-year-old who remains behind bars facing murder charges, however, he is not being prosecuted as an adult, this 14 injured, however, is. >> it's heartbreaking all around. thank you very much, polo, for that update. up next, bad blood in the race for the white house, president trump increases also attacks on michael bloomberg as they battle it out for votes, but it wasn't always that way. we have details on the long strained history between those two. you are live in the "cnn newsroom."

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as democrats pivot their focus to the next primary contest, president trump is setting his sights on one candidate who won't be in nevada, former new york mayor michael bloomberg. this week the two swapped insults on twitter. the president attacking bloomberg's height, calling him mini mike and a loser. bloomberg firing back calling the president a, quote, carnival barking clown. as cnn's brian todd reports

these are two men with a long history. >> look, he is a lightweight. >> reporter: the way they talk about each other now, you would think they've been enemies for life. >> i am not afraid of donald trump. >> reporter: but back in new york, back in the day, a different dynamic. >> i have to say you have been a great mayor. come here. you really have. i mean, this guy is fantastic. >> reporter: that was in october 2013, then new york city mayor michael bloomberg and donald trump lavished praise on each other after trump helped bloomberg convert a trash dump in the bronx into a high end golf course. >> but if there's anybody that has changed this city it is donald trump. he really has dn an amazing thing and this is another part of it. donald, thank you for your confidence in the city. >> reporter: analysts say that partnership actually could have been the genesis of their falling out because in a 2016 interview with wolf blitzer, trump took all the credit for the project. >> i took it over, i got it knocked out in one year and now it's a tremendous success. michael asked me if i would get involved in that. >> michael and his former aides

thought that was an exaggeration and it split between them. >> reporter: but before then donald trump and michael bloomberg appeared to get along or at least found each other useful. trump backed bloomberg's effort to run for a third term as new york's mayor, they golfed together. bloomberg appeared on trump's nbc show the apprentice and their daughters appeared in an hbo documentary called "born rich" but analysts say in the real world of new york business and philanthropy -- >> in that world it was bloomberg who was the star and it was trump who was the one who was always looking for acceptance and rarely getting it. during all of his life donald trump has longed for the approval of the new york establishment. mike bloomberg was the new york establishment. >> reporter: now the two are being compared and contrasted under a microscope, both switched political parties repeatedly and were unexpected winners this their biggest elections. and both became billionaires, although on the forbes list of

the wealthiest americans at the end of last year michael bloomberg ranked eighth with $53.4 billion while trump ranked 275th with $3.1 billion. >> they both named their businesses after themselves, they're both very wealthy people, but bloomberg came from a more working class background and donald trump inherited a i lot of money from his father and ran his business. >> reporter: going forward how nasty and personal will their battle become? >> i think in a head to head battle mike bloomberg and donald trump will be nastier than anything we've seen in politics, perhaps in 100 years. these are two people who are not afraid to fight and they're not afraid to fight in a very personal way. >> reporter: analysts say one reason donald trump fears michael bloomberg is he realizes bloomberg has the resources, millions of dollars that bloomberg can spended on ads, highly produced ads he can use to keep attracting trump in the most personal of ways.

brian todd, cnn, washington. joining me now basil smikel and maria cardona. michael bloomberg says it would be a bigger problem if trump wasn't attacking him and that the fact that he is means trump is afraid of him. do you think that's the case? >> i do think that's the case because owing to an earlier point, you know, donald trump has tried to ingratiate himself among sort of new york's power elite for a long time and he had been sort of getting laughed at behind the scenes because of his antics. it's a complicated history. he has actually done some things as was alluded to earlier to support new york in terms of parks and playgrounds and things like that and elected officials always used that need to sort of self-ee began dies to get some things done, but they never really took him seriously. so what michael bloomberg is doing is essentially calling attention to that and just needling him because he

understands how donald trump has this need to be accepted. so i do expect that this battle is going to get much more intense for a long time time. >> just a quick follow, do you believe michael bloomberg is more respected than donald trump in new york? >> in some ways. and i say that because, number one, he was a three-term mayor, i worked on one of those reelection campaigns, and if you go back to 2005 he got 47% of the african-american vote on a republican line, which is kind of unheard of. now, i understand from a policy perspective there are a lot of folks that had problems with stop and frisk, some of his other policies, that will get played out on the campaign so it's a mixed legacy but a three-term mayor that garners a lot of respect in and of itself shoo we are waiting to see if bloomberg will qualify for wednesday's debate in las vegas. he has money for days, though, maria. he has spent millions to make sure his message is on tvs all across the country and that has his competitors saying flat out he should not be in this race.

listen. >> do you think he should be on the debate stage? >> of course not. but i guess if you are worth $60 pll you can change the rules. >> i don't think you can buy an election. i've been the only guy through this process so far, person, who has been totally vetted. i have had a target on my back since i got in, i'm still standing and i'm going to get a chance to debate mayor bloomberg. >> maria, is bloomberg on the rise simply because he hasn't been thoroughly vetted and challenged and hasn't been on that debate stage where you can see his policies up against others? >> i think certainly that's one of the big reasons, ana. frankly, i think all of the democratic candidates should be eager and willing and looking forward to having mike bloomberg stand next to them on the debate stage the way that they have had to do for almost a year now to defend their policies, to defend what they've done in the past torques defend their record. up until now michael bloomberg has been able to spend his millions of dollars and has been

able to spin his own message a in his own way and has really not had to answer to some of the mixed policies that we've been talking about up until now and i think he should have to do that and he should have to stand up to the same scrutiny that the other democratic candidates have had to do up until now. >> and, in fact, bloomberg's message does seem to be working for him. his strategy is working nationally. we see him rising in the polls. with he see him, you know, increasing the support among special groups that are key to the democratic electorate and vote. >> yeah. >> and, in fact, one of those being obviously african-americans where he now is in second place to joe biden according to the latest quinnipiac poll among that group. i'm just wondering, though, basil, what you think of this new -- this new, i guess, theme that he has, this new brand he's launching, it's called mike for black america, complete with a section on his website with

buttons and t-shirts. what do you think of that branding? >> well, you know, as maria talked about earlier he has had an unencumbered opportunity to talk to voters because of the money he's spending. his legacy across the country will be mixed depending on where you are. if you are outside of new york this is the first time you really get to know who mike bloomberg s everybody is focused on their own mayor, they are not focused on mike bloomberg. this is the first opportunity that you're really getting to see him and hear from him to some extent and you see commercials with him hugging barack obama, right, and so that's one branding that he's got outside of new york city. within new york city it's a different -- it's a different mix because, as i said before, he's done very well with african-americans in two reelects, but he does have that -- that challenge with stop and frisk and some of the other housing policies and this rapid gentrification, even while he has done very well on gun control, for example. so it's a mix of policies, but as maria said, until he actually

gets on stage and starts debating other candidates, you never really are going to hear him ex blah kate some of what he's done certainly relative to the other candidates. this blacks for bloomberg seems to be growing and i will tell you it's working. now, whether or not, you know, as we talked about that fight with donald trump earlier, if voters are going to say these 1% of the 1% battles are going to resonate, but so far they seem to be. >> we know hispanic voters are also a big part of the electorate and the democratic base, maria, we have amy klobuchar, pete buttigieg and tom steyer campaigning in nevada and making appearances at a conference that was hosted by a prominent latino group where they were asked if they could name the president of mexico. listen to their answers. >> do you know his name? >> i forgot. >> can you tell me his name? >> no. >> can you tell me who the president of mexico is. >> yes, president -- i hope.

>> pete buttigieg was the only one of those three who could correctly answer that question, maria. >> yeah. yeah. do you know what, good for him. he did his homework and it is a little disappointing that the other democratic candidates weren't able to do that because it's not like it's a question about a country that is on the other side of the world that has nothing to do with the united states, right? mexico is a critical ally of ours, not just a trading partner, but it's somebody that we have to deal with on so many critical issues, border security, border infrastructure, immigration and so good for pete. i think that this is a wake-up call to some of the candidates that they need to do homework because our relationship with mexico, our relationship with central america is critical or should be critical and is key to how we're going to be treating the issue of immigration and trade and security frankly and how we are treating our international allies from here on out. so kudos to pete buttigieg, to

the other democratic candidates i say do your homework. >> all right. maria and basil, thank you both. great to have both your voices here with us. early voting, yes, early voting is under way right now in the key state of nevada. after finishing low in the first two early voting states former vice president joe biden is saying he's optimistic he can get enough votes in nevada to finish first. we're live next.

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right now voting is under way in nevada. that's right, they have early voting there ahead of their caucus next saturday and democrats in nevada are under tremendous pressure because the nation's first democratic caucuses in iowa, as you know, spun into total chaos just 12 days ago. here is what nevada officials hope is the key to getting it right in time, ipads. yes, ipads. the nevada democratic party scrapped its initial plans on

the initial app that they had planned to use which was at the heart of the mess in iowa and instead all 2,000 caucus precincts will have state issued ipads with access to google forms. people who have been trained on this ipad procedure tell us it's confusi confusing. arlette, nevada got rid of the app used in iowa because of the problems there, why are party officials so confident about this other technology? >> reporter: well, democrats are hoping not to repeat what happened over in iowa here in nevada, and the state democratic party here has unveiled what they're calling a caucus calculator. this is a tool that volunteers in precinct workers will be using on caucus day to add the early voting data and help calculate those totals on caucus day, just a week from now. but some of those who have been trained and others have not completely gotten a look at this technology yet, so there are

some questions about whether this technology will be useful -- used in the correct way come caucus day and certainly democrats don't want to repeat what happened in iowa here in the caucuses. >> okay. and, arlette, obviously you're there following the joe biden campaign and, in fact, his name was brought up by the house speaker nancy pelosi today in an interview with christiane amanpour. let's take a listen. >> quite frankly, with all the respect in the world for iowa and new hampshire, i'm not counting joe biden out. there's still races ahead that are much more representative of the -- of the country. >> i'm sure biden would be happy to aer that. how is the former vice president feeling today? >> reporter: well, joe biden is hoping for a bit of a turn around here in nevada. he just held a campaign event just a short time ago and organizing event they're really trying to get out the latino vote, especially as early voting started here in the state.

biden talked about the importance of the diverse demographics both here and in states like south carolina because he believes that diversity will help him. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the reason why we are here is because, you know, 99% of the african-american vote hasn't spoken yet and 99% of the latino vote hasn't spoken yet. >> reporter: now, the biden campaign sees nevada as a launching pad for him as he tries to continue on this path towards the nomination. they point to the diverse demographics in the state as being beneficial to biden, but also the strong presence of unions. though he didn't get the endorsement from the culinary workers, they do think he will do quite well. biden told me he doesn't think he necessarily needs to win nevada but does think they have a shot of winning here. >> arlette saenz in las vegas, thank you j next week you can join cnn for a series of town

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because we need an economy that works for all of us, not just wealthy campaign contributors. a little more than three years ago senator elizabeth warren had a meme-worthy exchange with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. warren was arguing against the confirmation of jeff sessions at the time for attorney general and this happened. >> there are mothers, daughters, sisters, fathers, sons and brothers -- >> mr. president. >> they are -- >> mr. president. >> the majority leader. >> the senator was impugned the

motives and conduct of our colleague from alabama as warned by the chair. >> mr. president, i am surprised that the words of coretta scott king are not suitable for debate in the united states senate. i ask leave of the senate to continue my remarks. >> the senator will take her seat. >> she was warned. she was given an explanation. nevertheless, she persisted. >> nevertheless, she persisted. that phrase has since become a mantra of sorts for warren's presidential campaign. just this past monday in the wake of her third place finish in iowa and fourth place finish in new hampshire warren said, my job is to persist. but persisting and winning are two very different things. joining me now brighter and communications strategist jimmy lalamu a surrogate for the

warren campaign. since 1972 no candidate has placed less than second in both iowa and new hampshire and gone on to win the nomination in either party and as we mentioned warren placed third in iowa where she had a sophisticated ground game, came in fourth in new hampshire which is the neighboring state to her home state of massachusetts. if she can't win there what does that victory come? >> i think it comes from the other 90% of delegates that are still on the table. this race is far from over. elizabeth warren is a fighter, as we saw in that clip, she persisted and she is going to continue to persist. i think that victory is still very much possible. >> what state is she going to win? >> i think she's going to win the state where folks actually pay attention to the platforms she's put forward, i think she's going to win when folks look and see this this is a candidate who in my opinion better than any other -- better than any

candidate in a still crowded democratic field has plans to improve the quality of life for so many americans. when folks have an opportunity to sit with what she's putting forward and get out there and get their neighbors excited about this candidacy then i think that's where we're going to win shoo she spent a lot of time in when you look at new hampshire and the key constituencies that the democrats need in order to be elected as president, she didn't win among suburban women. she didn't win among african-americans in new hampshire. when you look at the national polling, she's polling fourth among african-americans. what do you see as her path to victory? >> i think her path to victory comes from her continuing to engage with people. having surrogates like myself on the ground, having conversations with people. this is an incredibly impressive candidate who has plan to increase funding for hbcus by

$50 billion. who has a plan to protect the right of women to make decisions about their reproductive lives. somebody, and i say this as a mother, who is incredibly clear how devastating lack of access to both child care and health insurance can be. she has a plan to expand access to those things to people who need them desperately. >> why don't you think she's doing better with people of color? >> i think there's loyalties that existed prior to this race. i think just has been the case i historically with white female voters that mysogony is a factor. we have been trained to believe for long that leadership has a particular face. when someone shows up and deviate from what we think to a leader, we have a hard time. i think it's important we really

re-imagine what leadership looks like and we have the courage to really be a able to envision a female president. for some reason we're still very stuck at the idea that the most powerful person in this nation could be a woman. >> or could it be her policies? if you listen to what bill maher said recently, he talked about how democrats are often their on worst enemies proposing ideas that are too far to the left. he feels it could put at risk the nomination. listen to this. >> trump doesn't have to be popular. listen to what he says. you have no choice. you have to vote for me because he's saying yeah, you may not like me.

i may be crude and vulgar and horrible but they're crazy. there's a lot of stuff in that blue bin that is crazy. people read it every week. just these things, these too far out left wokey stuff. obama said it, people are looking for, don't do crazy stuff. don't say crazy stuff. we all get tagged with it. then they go, yeah, i don't like trump but he's right. i got to vote for him. they're nuts. >> obama himself has said people don't want to see crazy stuff. does he have a point and is that concern at all of yours? >> i don't think that -- i wish that more people were bothered by quote, unquote crazy stuff because then perhaps some of bill maher's comments might have had a greater toll on his career, how seriously we take his opinion. there's always been cries for folks who believe that if the left, if the democrats go to far left they're going to alienate

every one. oth on the other side of the aisle, republicans have been able to go as far off the deep end as possible. they stand by their man. they stand by their party. th they're loyal to the soil. democrats deserve candidate who can say compromise doesn't work. some of these woke ideas that with written off as a flight of fancy or millennial madness. >> when i look at these crazy ideas, i see things that will change the quality of life for so many americans. including a number of groups that i belong to. there's two things that will have to happen. it will have to be a flip to the

senate. so many people felt when they elected president obama in 2008, 2012, they're work was done. they could take a fur year break from politics until time to elect a president again. we can't do that. there's also executive orders. candidate warren said when possible, when necessary, she will take out her pen and she will sign things into legislation. >> really good to have you here. thank you very much. >> thank you. we'll be right back. i wanted my hepatitis c gone.

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