tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN February 16, 2020 9:00am-10:00am PST
joining me now from las vegas is the candidate with the most democratic delegates, pete buttigieg. thank you so much for joining me this morning. mr. mayor, i want to start with the culinary union in nevada. the culinary union is coming out against bernie sanders' health care plan because it would do away with the deal they negotiated with private insurers. they led to some bernie sanders supporters attacking the union leaders. he has disavowed the attacks. he said harassment of all forms is unacceptable to me and we urge supporters of all campaigns not to engage in bullying or ugly personal attacks. you have been critical of sanders, about all of this. is that good enough for you? >> you know, it's really disturbing to see the culinary union attacked when these are workers who have stood up and fought for, among other things, good health care plans. they're not interested in
washington taking away their choice. and i think part of what's at stake in this election is the idea, the idea i'm putting forward of delivering health care to everybody, so there's no such thing as an uninsured american, but doing it for medicare for all who want it while union members and others who have good plans are able to keep it. you know, no one should go after working people for wanting to defend and grow what they have earned. it's a key point of difference at the policy level between me and senator sanders, and also i think a very important that supporters of any candidate do this with respect. we have a crisis of respect and decency, obviously in the white house right now. it's natural that they're going to be in the heat of competition on our side. i'll leave it to senator sanders to characterize what's going on with his own supporters. i'm focused on making sure my own supporters and our campaign conduct this competition even when it's heated with a level of
respect for where people are coming from because we're talking about workers standing up for their own care. >> so you say that your health care plan is better for unions in particular because their members can keep their private insurance. you also have said if your health care plan is a success, it could create a, quote, glide path to medicare for all. can you guarantee to these union workers that if you're elected president, they will be able to keep their private health care plan? >> absolutely. look, senator sanders' plan by definition abolishes private plans like what the culinary workers and other workers across nevada in america have. mine does not. it's a simple, clear, and major difference. now, as you pointed out, if my plan is the very best insurance plan in america, and i think it just might be, then eventually, everybody will cross over to it, but i want them to be able to decide. and in the event that it's not, if some plans out there are better, why would we want to kick anybody off of it?
this is a commonsense position that most americans support. it still amounts to the most progressive major reform to health care we have had in 50 years, but it is doable. it makes sense. it's the right policy. and it has the advantage of being something that americans could actually unite around. the next president is going to be taking office in a dangerously divided washington. here we have an opportunity to have bold, big, meaningful change. and actually have that bold change be unifying rather than divisive. why wouldn't we take that opportunity? >> so mr. mayor, let's talk about the race you're in right now. you have the most delegates after the first two contests. they were an overwhelmingly white states. the race is about to get much more diverse, and a new quinnipiac poll showed that since last month, the former vice president, joe biden, his support among black voters has fallen by more than 20 points. but mayor bloomberg, his support among black voters has tripled to 22%.
you, on the other hand, are at 4%. why aren't those voters coming to you? >> you know, i'm not focused on poll numbers right now. we're having conversations with voters, many of whom, by the way, have been very busy in their lives and last year were saying, you know, come back to me when there are more than 20 of you. and are taking a different and new look at the candidates now that we have demonstrated that we have been able to gain support in states like iowa and new hampshire, as we come to more racially diverse states like here in nevada and south carolina. many of the voters of color i'm talking to are focused in particular on one thing, defeating donald trump. nobody is experiencing the pain of living under this administration more than voters of color. i'm talking to a lot of highly pragmatic voters who want to know more than anything else that you can put together the organization and the message that will decisively defeat this president. >> and you feel confident you can convince them? >> we have got to get this right.
>> you feel confident you can convince them? because part of the kind of narrative or the question going into these votes is whether or not success would beget success. you had success, and you feel confident that voters of color are going to see that and look your way in a way they haven't before? >> absolutely. i mean, i still have to go out there and earn it. this is a process of earning trust with voters who have every reason to be skeptical, who have often felt taken for granted by the democratic party, who are, again, very pragmatic right now, too. so i am not going to take any vote for granted, just as i'm not going to leave any vote on the table. we're campaigning hard here in nevada, across the country we'll be working hard in south carolina, too. we're in a position to earn the support that we need. not only to win, but in order to deserve it. >> so your rivals, i know you have heard, are criticizing you for holding high-dollar fund-raisers all over the country. you have said you're doing whatever it takes to beat donald
trump. right now, you're in a race for the democratic nomination. and senator sanders, for example, has raised more than you without holding those high-dollar fund-raisers. is it fair to say that what you're doing now is whatever it takes to beat bernie sanders and your other democratic rivals in order to get to the point where you can go after donald trump? >> so let's be very clear. my campaign is fueled by over 2 million contributions. i believe the average contribution is under $40. it is the lifeblood of our campaign. by the way, if you're watching right now and you can go to peteforamerica.com and help this campaign, that's a critical part of how we succeed. i'm following the same fund-raising practices that president obama did and that our leaders have in order to make sure that we draw in all of the support that we need to win. and the campaign i'm building right now is not just for earning the nomination. it is for defeating donald trump, who with his allies has demonstrated they will do anything to hold on to power.
my campaign is about belonging, it's about inclusion. i don't define this campaign or define myself by whose help we reject. this is about making sure that everybody who shares these values, everybody prepared to defeat donald trump, is on the same team pulling together. and we built this from the ground up. look, i'm not a millionaire. i haven't been in politics for years or decades. i don't have the advantages of having been a senator. we built this from scratch, and with the hundreds of thousands of individuals who have kriblted to this campaign. people of all walks of life. i'm proud of what we have been able to do, and yes, this is how we're going to defeat this president. >> last, before i let you go, rush limbaugh, to whom the president recently awarded the nation's top civilian honor, described you as a 37-year-old gay guy, mayor of south bend, who loves to kiss his husband on the debate stage. now, there has been bipartisan criticism of him for those remarks. i wanted to give you a chance to respond if you would like to.
>> well, i love my husband. i'm faithful to my husband. obstage, we usually just go for a hug, but i love him very much. and i'm not going to take lectures on family values from the likes of rush limbaugh. >> okay. we'll leave it there. mayor pete buttigieg, thank you so much. good luck on the campaign trail out there in nevada. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. and the surprise third-place finisher in new hampshire is now drawing big crowds in nevada. senator amy klobuchar joins us next. with advil liqui-gels,
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welcome back to "state of the union." my next guest says her presidential campaign is surging just at the right time. after taking third in new hampshire, senator amy klobuchar is now on the trail in nevada where she's hoping she can prove she can keep her momentum going. joining me now from las vegas is senator amy klobuchar. thank you so much for joining me this morning. i want to start -- >> thanks, dana. >> first of all, in the crisis in the justice department after the attorney general, bill barr, dialed back a sentencing recommendation for trump associate roger stone. nine of your democratic colleagues, including senators warren and sanders, have called for the attorney general to resign. do you think he should resign? >> sure. i would be glab if he resigned. i just don't think that's realistic. what is realistic right now, i didn't support him to begin with. i'm the one who grilled him on his expansive view of executive
power, which all of that has come to roost, but what is realistic is he's now going to testify before the house judiciary committee. i would also like him to come to the senate. and along with my colleagues, i have asked him to do that so we can probe him on the role of the president in trying to influence decisions in the department of justice, in particular the stone decision. i just think it's outrageous knowing how hard these career prosecutors work to do the right thing, how hard they worked on the case like roger stone's, got him convicted, and then get undermined when it comes to the sentencing. that's just not normal. >> okay, so senator, let's talk about where you are now. the primary. and the calendar is about to get in the states where you are about to get much more diverse, you finished very strong in new hampshire, as you well know, and because of all of that, your time as a prosecutor in minnesota is getting more scrutiny. i want to ask you about that.
i want you to listen to what you said when you were running for prosecutor in 1998. >> i think i'm going to look young. when you look at the crime rate in the county, it's not acceptable. we have to look at making sure that there's a consequence when someone commits a crime. when you see the dramatic reductions in crime in other parts of the country, we can learn a lot about what they're doing and they're enforcing the law down the line. >> that tough on crime approach has been linked to racial disparities in the criminal justice system. in retrospect, do you regret that? >> well, let's set this up. i was running against a republican opponent who actually was advocating for longer sentences as well as less gun control. so i was actually arguing when i talk about consequences, it can mean things like drug courts, like restorative justice, which was a major focus of my time in the county attorney's office, and during my time there, we actually saw a 12% reduction in
african-american incarceration rates. so what do i think when i look back at that? i was not involved in some of the controversial issues in other states like stop and frisk. i understand that is unconstitutional. what i was focused on there was trying to go after crimes and making sure there's a consequence, but it does not mean that it always has to be prison time. there just has to be some kind of reaction to make sure that people aren't just committing crimes and there's no response. the response has to be tailored to what the crime is. >> okay, so from 2002 to 2004, more than 60% of juveniles brought to the henpen county juvenile detention center were black, according to a council on justice study, even though only 10% of the county's population was black. you have been clear you believe there was racism in the justice
system. but given that and given the stats from back then, do you take any responsibility for the racial disparities in the criminal justice system on your watch? >> i think everyone involved in the criminal justice system has to take responsibility, including myself. what we know is that there's institutional racism and how do we get at it is really my job and will be my job as president. i would argue someone with this experience actually could do a very good job of getting at it. one, sentencing changes like the first step act that i was a co-sponsor of that we passed, and as a prosecutor, it was important to have me as one of the co-sponsors. reducing nonviolent sentences on the federal level. as president, i will roll it out for the second step act, to create incentives for the states where 90% of people are incarcerated. doing something for clemency and having a clemency board outside of the justice department. an innovative approach that i'll bring forward as president. doing more when it comes to
eyewitness identifications, diversifying police departments and offices. making sure that we have videotape interrogations. something that i advocated for when i was prosecutor. i have always said that we are not like a business in the criminal justice system. you don't want to see repeat customers. what you want to see is people get help so they can get out of the system, which is why i have been the lead democrat when it comes to drug courts. >> senator, i want to turn now to one of your opponents for the democratic nomination, mayor mike bloomberg. there's a report in "the washington post" this weekend that paints a sweeping picture of him making crass sexual comments, objectifying women, creating sexist culture in the workplace. i want to be clear, bloomberg has denied the allegations. he said on twitter he has zero tolerance for an environment where women aren't respected. what do you make of the reports? >> i think he has to come on a show like yours here, dana. he has not gone on any sunday
show since he announced. i've got to answer questions like i just did on my record, and he has to do the same thing. i don't think he should be able to hide behind air ways and huge ad buys. he has to come on the shows, and i also am an advocate for him coming on the debate stage. i know i'm not going to be able to beat him on the airwaves but i can beat him on the debate stage because i believe my argument for my candidacy is so much stronger. the midwest isn't flyover country to me. i live there. the people who work there like their poker chips on one of the president's bankrupt casinos, they're not poker chips to me. they're my friends and neighbors. when it comes to a state like nevada, they have two women senators, majority women legislature. i have an incredibly strong argument here that this state has put women in power really like no other state. and finally, the work i have done in terms of bringing people
with me, not just by running ads but what we just saw in new hampshire, moderate republicans, independents, building a coalition. that's what we need to build the coalition to win. i would add one more thing. since that new hampshire primary, dana, i have raised over $12 million in just a little over a week. so i can finally be competitive on the airwaves and get teams in every single super tuesday state. >> so senator, before i let you go, i want to ask you about one other opponent, senator bernie sanders. congressman dean philips who is backing you, says he thinks there are probably 25 to 30 seats that absolutely would be impacted directly by having a self-avowed democratic socialist at the top of the ticket. do you think democrats would lose the house if bernie sanders were the nominee? >> you know, i'm not a pundit but i do know this. i'm the only one on that debate stage that when they said do you
have a problem with a democratic socialist leading the ticket, and i said yes, and that's despite the fact that bernie and i are friends. we don't have to win the election by eking a victory at 4:00 a.m. we have to win big. i'm the one with the track record, which dean philips know, which is why he's supporting me, that brings people with me. that wins in the reddest of red areas as well as suburban areas. that flipped the state house every time. i'm the only one on the debate stage that has done it. it's not talking points to me, and of course, we need to keep the house, and you do that by having a candidate that shares the views. here in nevada, as you were talking about early in the show, we don't want to kick 149 million americans off their current health insurance in four years, which is exactly what bernie's bill would do. people are much more pragmatic. they want plans and not pipe dreams. i'm the candidate that brings that and i think that's why we're surging across the country. >> senator amy klobuchar, thank you so much for joining me.
i appreciate it. >> thank you. great to be on. >> thank you. >> and up next, the attorney general says the president is making it impossible for him to do his job. a top white house official joins me next to talk about that. is that net carbs or total?... eh, not enough fiber- chocolate would be good- snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. glucerna. everyday progress
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm dana bash. the latest critic of president trump's twitter feed is his own attorney general, bill barr, who said this week that the president's tweets about current justice department cases make it impossible for barr to do his job. clearly undeterred, though, president trump is still tweeting about current cases and some new moves by the justice department are raising questions about political interference. joining me now is the chief of staff for the vice president and president trump's former legislative affairs director marc short. thank you for coming on. let's start with what the attorney general said this week. let's take a listen. >> to have public statements and tweets made about the department, about people in the
department, our men and women here, about cases pending in the department, and about judges before whom we have cases, make it impossible for me to do my job. >> why did the attorney general feel the need to do this? >> i don't know, dana. i don't think that it's impossible to do his job. in fact, i think attorney general barr is doing a great job. i think he has a lot of confidence inside the white house. i think the president's frustration is one that a lot of americans have, which feels like the scales of justice aren't balanced anymore. when someone like roger stone gets a prosecution that suggests a nine-year jail sentence, which is four years above the sentencing guidelines, and candidly, somebody like andy mccabe, who also lied to federal investigators, gets a lucrative contract here at cnn, people say how is this fair and equitable. that's the president's frustration. >> you don't think it's unusual for the attorney general to come
out in any administration, but particularly in this administration, to basically say to the president, back off? >> well, i'm not going to tell you it's not unusual, but i think he does enjoy the support of the president. and i think that, again, the concern we have is the sense that the scales of justice are not the same. again, what we have seen again and again is that the department of justice has been politicized, and attorney general barr is trying to correct that. normally what would happen in a case like roger stone's is if somebody asked for a sentence four years above the sentencing guidelines it goes up the chain to say here's why i'm suggesting it. once that happened, knbarr said no, that's excessive. people knew the mueller probe was a fraudulent probe. >> there's understandable concern on any level in any case. but it's a totally different thing when it's the president of the united states involving himself in criminal cases,
particularly involving people who are close to him. and since that interview, and this basically is not me speaking, that's obviously what the attorney general was getting at, the president continued to tweet. he tweeted about the justice department's decision not to prosecute andy mccabe and asserted his right to intervene in criminal cases. why isn't the president listening to his attorney general? >> the president has been able to communicate directly with the american people through his social media outlet. it's something that helped propel him to the presidency. it's one of the things the american people love about him. he's going to keep doing it. it's what he's done from the beginning and i think it's an effective way for him to communicate with the american people. when we talk about weighing in, i read even today in "the washington post," an editorial talking about bill barr being the president's wingman. those are the exact words eric holder used when he said i am obama's wingman, and the media never criticized it. te media is criticizing it. >> i think it's not -- first of all, it's not the media, it's
barr. barr is criticizing the president for his tweets, not us. >> no, what the media is krilticizing is they're alleging barr is the president's wingman, politicizing the doj, when eric holder said i am obama's wingman, and the media was silent at that time. the reality is barr is independent. he did come into this decision on his own. it was not something he was influenced by by the president. >> what i hear you saying it's okay because the president used his social media in an effective way. that it's okay to take that to a level that he is a disrupter, a precedent breaker, but this takes it to a level where the justice department has historically lived up to its name. you know that. it's an advocate for independent justice. it's seen that way around the world. >> what's been happening inside the justice department has been unprecedented. when you basically knew the russian collusion was a hoax and continued to pursue it, continued to try to entrap people, that's something the american people have not seen before. for the president to speak up
and say it's unfair and prosecute and surge four extra years for roger stone and let the number two person in the doj go free and have a lucrative contract here at cnn doesn't seem to be an equitable system. >> most people is one thing. again, for the president of the united states to inject himself in something like this is -- i mean, justice is supposed to be blind, right? i meanwhile, it's not even close, the perception is it's not even close when you have the president intervening. >> the president is speaking out because it hasn't been blind. >> barr ordered the justice department to re-examine the case of the former national security adviser michael flynn who pleaded guilty to lying to investigators. president trump said flynn's situation is very unfair. he previously wished him best wishes and good luck. why is the attorney general inserting himself in cases involving the president's associat associates? >> because again, there has been a bias within the department of justice that attorney general barr is trying to correct.
i think that he has said that the president has not called him directly to say please do these things. he has acted independently to initiate these reviews and i think he's doing a fantastic job with it. >> you're saying there's a bias. i understand why you're saying that. but there isn't proof of that given the fact that you had robert mueller appointed, appointed by somebody who was a trump nominee, and you had very long, very intense investigations by people who, you know, i know you guys said it was a witch hunt and it was corrupt and all those things, but at the end of the day, you had genuine investigations going on by people who are career nonpartisan prosecutors. >> well, they're supposed to be nonpartisan. that's the basis of our complaint, dana. the reality is there are people inside the department of justice who clearly were stating their intent to stop donald trump from becoming president of the united
states. that is a serious problem, and that is what the president has spoken out about. and as you say about proof, i think it's pretty clear now in the aftermath of the mueller report that they knew there was no russian collusion, yet they continued the investigation to see who else they could ensnare, who else they could entrap -- >> i don't know that that's true that they knew there was no corruption. that's not -- >> i think it was proven. >> that's not fair. there are a lot of things that we can and will fact check. but i want to move on to another topic which is the former new york city mayor, michael bloomberg. he has come under fire for stop and frisk in new york city. the president tweeted but then deleted a tweet calling bloomberg a total racist over these controversial comments from bloomberg, defending the practice. i want you to listen to what the president said about stop and frisk in 2016. >> stop and frisk, which worked very well, mayor giuliani is here, worked very well in new york. it brought the crime rate way down. >> stop and frisk was ruled
unconstitutional in new york because it largely singled out black and hispanic young men. >> no, you're wrong. you have to have stop and frisk. stop and frisk had a tremendous impact on the safety of new york city. >> so, if supporting stop and frisk makes mike bloomberg a total racist, what does it say about president trump? >> the president has said under rudy giuliani, he thought stop and frisk was applied legitimately. under mayor bloomberg, the number of african-americans apprehended grew by four. there were questions on whether or not it was really targeted on race. that's what the president's complaint is. >> you feel comfortable there's. no controversial there. >> i think he said the policy was executed well under mayor giuliani, but it was abused under mayor bloomberg. >> but he supports the notion of stop and frisk -- >> i think it depends on what the criteria are, dana. >> you realize people look at that and say he's calling michael bloomberg a racist but
he's supporting the sail -- >> the number of apprehensions grew by i believe four. it's a huge explosion. the president said he felt the program was administered appropriately under giuliani. >> so michael bloomberg did too much stop and frisk? >> it appears he took it to a further extent that i think the president was uncomfortable with. >> one more question about something that hasn't gotten a lot of play but i know you have interest in, that is the budget. and that is the president's budget put forward last week. says that the federal deficit over the next ten years will not be eliminated. it's actually climbed to more than $1 trillion. the president vowed during the campaign to eliminate not only the deficit but the entire national debt by the end of his second term. why is this a promise that he feels comfortable breaking? >> look, the spending problem is one that afflicts both democrats and republicans alike. if you look at the president's first budget, it balanced in ten
years. it's now taking 15 years. traditionally, congress has thrown out the president's budget. if they would stick with the president's budget, we could get back on a balanced structure, but they end up spending too much money. >> as you know, the budget is a political document of what the desires are and the policy goals are of a president. the fact that he's not even trying, even saying that his goal is to balance the budget and that the deficit will still balloon especially in really good economic times, and these are the times where you're supposed to be able to deal with that. so why not? >> with president trump's economic policies you continue to see revenues grow. americans are thriving. more american than ever before are employed. the economy is fantastic, dana. >> so why not cut the budget down? >> the reality is where president trump has suggested modest cuts, it's presumed by a lot of mode yeah saying they're draconian cuts. he's doing the best he can to balance it in 15 years.
if congress would come along with us, we could do that. thus far, congress has been unwilling to accept the budgets. you're right, it's not a legislative document. it's here's our policy guidelines. it's why it balanced in ten years the first year. it's up to 15 years now. we have a chance to control this if congress will work with us. >> marc short, thank you for joining me. >> the south carolina primary could mark the end of the road for more than one democratic candidate. that state's kingmaker, congressman james clyburn, joins me next. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum.
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm dana bash. the democratic primary is moving on to the more diverse states of nevada and south carolina, where the primary could be make or break moment for former vice president joe biden, who says that this state, at least south carolina, is his firewall. but is biden's support among african-american voters slips nationally, could a key endor endorsement give him a boost in south carolina? that state's kingmaker, congressman claims clyburn says
he's not ready to say which candidate he supports quite yet, and he joins me with a big grin on his face. thank you so much for joining me. so, mr. clyburn, first about the former vice president. he's called south carolina his firewall, but so far, he's come in fourth in iowa, fifth in new hampshire, and a new quinnipiac poll shows his support among african-americans on a national level has fallen by more than 20 points in the last month. so will south carolina be his firewall? >> well, i don't know. we'll see. i think that we have been seeing the numbers all year. in fact, last year as well. and the vice president is leading among african-american voters in south carolina by a wide margin. these things usually tighten up when you get close to an election. so we don't know. we'll find out in about ten days. >> what's your feeling? i mean, you have a better sense of what's going on on the ground
there than anyone. do you feel that his support is slipping or do you feel he's still in good shape down there? >> well, i think that steyer is doing an incredible job. buttigieg is doing very good. i passed my grandson's house as i came to the studio today, and you know, he's working on the buttigieg campaign. he had a big crowd at his house. i think there's a lot of activity taking place here, and i think we're going to have a real spirited contest. >> you have said that the reason i'm not asking you is because i'm not going to get an answer about who you're going to endorse because you won't do that until after the south carolina debate, which is on february 25th. "the new york times" is reporting that your previously expected endorsement of joe biden is now uncertain because you're worried about endorsing a candidate who may not win south carolina. is that true? >> i don't know where they're
getting that from. i'm very -- i'm an admirer of "the new york times." i read "the new york times." but they don't always get it right. the fact of the matter is, i have never, ever worried about who will win in order to tell my supporters who i favor. so i will never, ever base my support upon whether or not i think that person will win the state anyway. why would you need my support? i did not support barack obama publicly in 2008. and nobody thought he was going to win, but he did. so i don't know where they're getting that from. that's not how i make decisions. >> all right, so let me ask you, you mentioned mayor buttigieg. he's actually running an ad in south carolina right now featuring your grandson, who works for him. you said to me on this program in november that mayor buttigieg will have trouble with older
african-american voters in south carolina because he is gay. he's done really well in iowa and new hampshire, as voters learn more about him, do you think they still feel that way? >> i think that we all grow. we mature, and i think that political calculations are changing quite a bit. you know, i grew up in a fundamentalist christian church. my father was a pastor there. my grandfather was a pastor. i know what takes place in front of christian churches throughout the country, and so though i may feel differently, i don't adhere to everything that was taught in the church i grew up in. so what i feel personally is what i know to be fundamental to teachings in fundamentalist churches are two different things. i want to try to answer your question as honestly as i
possibly could. i think that's their feel, that it's a problem, and we have all been reading what has been said in the last 24 hours about that. it doesn't bother me personally. i like the mayor very much, and my grandson and i talk about it all the time, but that's not the way i feel personally. >> you still think it's a problem? you don't think it's changed? >> oh, yeah, it's changed. it's matured. the calculations have changed. yes. that's what i said at the outset. >> i see. okay. one last question. you mentioned tom steyer. he got less than 1% in iowa, less than 4% in new hampshire, but he's in second place right now in some polls in your state. briefly, why is that? what do you think is going on? >> i have always said money is the mother's milk of politics. he has money. and he has been spending it. so i think that will always make a difference. where was bloomberg nationally
among voters a month ago? but he has money. he's been spending it, and he's changed the calculations a lot. so for us to just pretend that money doesn't make a difference, that would be foolhardy. money makes a difference. steyer has it. he's been spending it, and he's reaping the rewards. >> james clyburn, thank you so much. we look forward to seeing you down there in south carolina and hearing what your decision is. you said you know who you're going to vote for, you just won't say it publicly yet. >> not yet. thank you. >> thank you. and make america great again. it's actually a slogan with a very long political history. that's next. in one week... a lot will happen in your life. wrinkles just won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's fastest retinol formula works so fast. it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin.
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