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>> i guess the only way to do this is jump in and speak twice as long as you should. >> who funded lindsey graham's gain for re-election -- campaign for re-election last time? mayor michael bloomberg. >> people that i spent $100 million that i helped re-elect. the new democrats gave the congress the ability to control this president. i got that. >> i am scared. if we cannot pull this party together, we take a terrible risk of re-electing donald trump. >> this we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." it is wednesday, february 26th, 6:00 here in new york. messy, chaotic, embarrassing. those are just some of the choice words the pundits are using to describe last night's debate in south carolina. as predicted senator bernie sanders got the front runner treatment. most of his rivals claiming that a socialist will sink the
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democratic ticket against donald trump. their mission was clear. to make sure that bernie sanders does not own south carolina and then super tuesday. >> so did it work? that's always the most important question after a debate. did it change the status of the front runner? what's complicated this time is sanders might be the national front runner, but joe biden is leading in south carolina. and a win there for him could shake up the race. the former vice president is hoping to pick up one of the most coveted endorsements around later this morning. we're watching that very carefully. coming up this hour, next hour we're going to speak with amy klobuchar and tom steyer. they were on that debate stage. what did they think? also this morning, we're keeping a very close eye on the markets. u.s. stock futures down about 173 points. you're looking at that live. this follows two horrific days in the market. huge concern about the spread of coronavirus and concern about the mixed messages coming from the administration. we'll begin with the debate. this was a very south carolina debate.
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jessica dean is live there with all the details. jessica? >> reporter: yeah. a lot of energy, a lot of yelling. you guys showed some of it there. we want to get to more of it as well. but it started really with everyone focusing in on bernie sanders. a lot of those attacks and then kind of devolved into this circular firing squad of sorts with everyone kind of yelling at everybody else. there's a lot on the line, guys. we have the south carolina primary on saturday. super tuesday with all those delegates coming around the corner next tuesday. and this is the last time they'll be on the stage before those two big events. >> i'm hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight. i wonder why. >> reporter: with front runner status, bernie sanders took his turn in the hot seat. >> bernie and i agree on a lot of things, but i think i would make a better president than bernie. >> you do something for the
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people of america than things that sound good on bumper stickers. >> reporter: after taking most of the heat last week, michael bloomberg was ready to strike against sanders questioning his electability. >> vladimir putin thinks donald trump should be president of the united states. and that's why russia is helping you get elected so you'll lose to him. >> hey, mr. putin. if i'm president of the united states, trust me. you're not going to interfere in any more american elections. >> reporter: sanders once again defending his comments praising cuban dictator castro. >> what i said is what barack obama said in terms of cuba. that cuba made progress on education. yes, i think -- really? really? >> the fact of the matter is he, in fact, does not, did not, has never embraced an authoritarian regime and does not now. >> reporter: pete buttigieg saying it could hurt democrats
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chances. >> if you want to keep the house in democratic hands, you might want to dhcheck with the people who actually turned the house blue. 40 democrat who is are not running on your platform. they are running away from your platform as fast as they possibly can. >> the truth is -- >> one at a time. >> the way you're talking about doing it is out of -- >> -- by beating trump in every poll that has gone. and why i will defeat him. >> reporter: joe biden confident heading into saturday's primary. >> i don't expect anything. i plan to earn the vote. i'm here to ask and earn it. but folks, i intend to win south carolina and i will win they are african-american vote here in south carolina. >> reporter: the former vice president also taking aim at billionaire tom steyer. >> you talk about you're concerned about race. well, my good friend on the end of this platform, he, in fact, bought a system that was a private prison system.
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after he knew that, in fact, what happened was they hog tied young men in prison here in this state. >> -- in a prison company thinking they'd do a better job. i invested and i sold it. since then i worked to end the use of private prisons in my state. you wrote the crime bill that put hundreds of thousands of young black and latino men -- >> not true. >> reporter: elizabeth warren offering rare attacks against her fellow progress i haive. >> bernie and i want to see universal health care. i dug in, i did the work, and then bernie's team trashed me for it. >> reporter: but saved some ammunition for bloomberg. >> the that is correct that he cannot earn the trust of the core of the democratic means he is the riskiest candidate standing on this stage. >> reporter: amy klobuchar calling for some civility. >> if we spent the next four
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months tearing our party apart, we're going to watch donald trump spend the next four years tearing our country apart. >> reporter: and there is another full day of campaigning here in south carolina. we're expecting a number of the candidates here at this north charleston church for a minister's breakfast hosted by the rev rand al sharpton. as you mention, also watching for jim clyburn's endorsement to come out today which we are expecting this morning. and then we've got a full night of town halls here on cnn. they get started at 7:00 with michael bloomberg, joe biden, amy klobuchar, and elizabeth warren. >> that is a big, big day, jessica. thanks for being with us. the question coming out of the debate, who gained ground? who lost ground? and everyone in between there. we have some of the answers next. ♪ we see you trying and the effort is for real ♪
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so vermont senator bernie sanders, he received the front runner treatment last night in the debate in south carolina. >> i think i would make a better president than bernie. >> imagine spending the better part of 2020 with bernie sanders versus donald trump. think about what that will be like for this country. >> bernie sanders' analysis is right. the difference is i don't like his solutions. >> bernie, in fact, hasn't passed much of anything. >> i do not think this is the best person to lead the ticket. >> should he keep on going, we will elect bernie. bernie will lose to donald trump. >> joining us now is karen finney, krystal ball, and mitch landrieu. mayor, i want to start with you. not just because you're the senior elected official here, but also because how are you awake? how can the former mayor of new orleans be awake today after fat
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tuesday? >> it's an amazing thing. i want props for that. >> this is a mardi gras miracle. what was your takeaway from last night? who did you see emerging with the biggest gains? >> it was a wwe cage match last night. they were on each other like gravy on rice. i thought joe biden acquitted himself pretty well last night when everybody counted him out. bernie sanders did a great job of playing rope a dope. the most curious thing about last night to me was why elizabeth warren spent any time with mike bloomberg last night rather than on bernie sanders. because he's the one that seems to be in her way. and i thought that was just one of the most interesting things of the night. >> karen, your takeaways? >> well, yeah. you could feel the explosion right when it started. i thought all the candidates did well last night. certainly mayor bloomberg did better than he has. i certainly thought, though,
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senator warren landed a very strong punch when she talked about the disparities in, you know, she was doing housing hearings and trying to create the cfpb while he was, you know, out there being a banker essentially. he also had a couple of moments that were pretty sexist and misogynist when he referred to her -- that i noticed online and talking to people afterwards. just stylistically hit people the wrong way. >> so krystal, one of the big questions entering or exiting any debate is has the status of the front runner changed? what's interesting here is that bernie sanders is clearly the national front runner, but in south carolina, joe biden is the front runner. so i guess my question to you about senator sanders, did anything happen to shake his front runner status? but did he do anything that increases his chances of beating joe biden in south carolina? >> the answer is no. i mean, i think that debate was
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such a mess, right? every candidate yelling at each other. moderators lose control. audience of dnc donors who were also sort of out of control, that nobody came out looking really good. and no one came out looking particularly bad. so i don't think it really shook up the race at all. now, in south carolina it remains to be seen whether that's good or bad for joe biden. we've had polling that's been mixed. we have had several national polls that show bernie sanders taking the lead among black voters. and we also have seen a narrowing of the race there. so i think mitch's analysis is basically right. it's probably good for joe biden and south carolina. probably good for bernie sanders overall. the one other thing i would say here, it was almost like a metaphor for the entire race last night. because it would have been more effective rather than everybody trying to pile on bernie sanders which he was able to pair relatively well. if you'd had one or two people able to make a strong case against him, it probably would have landed more effectively and
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not just looked like one big train wreck. most of the candidates on that stage haven't really done the work to understand bernie sanders' appeal and why he has this movement behind him. and so it's going to be very hard for them to launch effective attacks when they don't really understand the candidate to start with. >> karen, what part do you disagree with? >> i 1,000% disagree -- and i know krystal knows this isn't true. that was not a room full of dnc donors. when i was at the dnc many years ago and ever since, basically the way it works is everybody gets the same amount of tickets. each campaign got the same amount of tickets. the dnc, the south carolina democratic party as well as twitter. and then they invited the local elected officials. >> that wasn't the reporting on the ground. >> hold on, krystal. well, i'm here and i talked to the dnc and i know that's exactly how they do their tickets. but here's why i think that is such a cheap shot.
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it doesn't help senator sanders to whine about whether or not he was booed or not booed. because actually elizabeth warren got booed at one point. so did bloomberg. and sanders thought it was a good idea to argue communism and nicaragua with the audience at one point. which is bizarre. it's why south carolina was added to this early part of the bro process. block voters, they're moderates. they're not liberals. you saw this dynamic in 2016 where senator sanders does very well with younger african-americans and communities of color. but those older african-americans, they are with joe. >> let me just respond to that because i'm getting accused of whining about anything. >> we will let you do that, krystal. but let's play the moments we're talking about. let's give this illustration. >> what i said is what barack obama said in terms of cuba.
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that cuba made progress on education. yes, i think -- really? really? >> that was just one of the moments, krystal. okay. your response? >> which is a fair statement. barack obama did say almost exactly the same thing. look, i think it speaks to the fundamental endemic corruption of the democratic party establishment that you had to pay -- and this is according to to reporting, local reporting on the ground -- multiple thousands of dollars to get into that room. i can't think of a better case to be made for bernie sanders and his idea to be a threat to that established order that you have a party that claims to be the party of the people, party that claims they want to get money out of politics, and yet on something to trivial they stack the room with their donors. i think that that's disgusting and i think it's important. it's not whining. >> krystal, that's just not true. and you cannot use the airwaves to lie. you're lying. >> it's why bernie sanders is
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attractive to so many people. look at the reporting on the ground. >> most people who watched that debate were not in the room. you had probably millions and millions of viewers around the country who were listening to what was said. >> that's a bigger point. >> there are more people in south carolina who watched that debate that weren't in the room. it's their opinions that are going to matter on saturday. and the people of super tuesday states that are going to matter. and mayor, you brought up joe biden. there have been questions about joe biden. he had terrible results in iowa and new hampshire. better, but not great results in nevada. so people have been looking for signs of political life. which is why some people are pointing to moments like this. where he at a minimum at least sees the stage last night. so watch this. >> bernie. bernie, in fact, hasn't passed much of anything. the fact of the matter is -- no, no. the fact is i'm not ou out of time. he spoke over time and i'm going to talk. here's the deal.
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>> all right. what did you see from him last night that might get biden supporters excited? and what's his path? if he is able to win south carolina, what next? >> well, a couple of things. many people have been arguing and i think correctly when you start off with iowa and new hampshire as wonderful as those folks are, they don't really represent the democratic party nationwide. and south carolina with the first primary, we would be having a different discussion today about who the number one and two front runners are in the race. somebody hit biden with a cattle prod last night. i think he understood that if he had a bad night and does poorly in south carolina he doesn't have a pathway forward. however, if joe biden does well in south carolina which he expects to do and the polls indicate that he will do, he still has life into super tuesday. then the question gets to be who are the other candidates and what is their pathway forward. so my guess is -- this is just a guess of course we don't know. there are three candidates who today continue to be viable. one of them is clearly bernie
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sanders. he's the front runner. then joe biden and mike bloomberg. elizabeth warren continues to have strong performances but her pathway as amy's and pete's looks questionable. and who the heck knows why tom steyer is still hanging around. i don't really get that and understand that post-south carolina. and we'll see what the results are soon enough. >> we might be able to pose that very question to him directly since he will be on our program. >> i'm sure he's going to love it if you phrase it like that. >> if he hasn't canceled just now, he'll be on in the next hour. stick around. we have more issues to get to with you. how will african-american voters shape this weekend's vote and super tuesday? more coming up. . ♪
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and mitch landrieu. we have so many more issues to talk about. and that what's happening, people are very nervous waking up this morning. the markets are nervous. and last night the candidates spoke about that. so listen to this moment. >> one of the great problems today, you read about the virus. what's really happening here is the president fired the pandemic specialist in this country two years ago. so there's nobody here to figure out what the hell we should be doing. >> this president has not invested like he should have in his budget. he tried to cut back on the cdc. he tried to cut back on the international organization that would coordinate with the rest of the world. >> we increased the budget of the cdc. we increased the nih budget. our president today has wiped all that out. >> one of the moments that they sort of came together to attack president trump, you know, rather than going at each other.
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mayor landrieu, what were your impressions? >> when you run for office you have all these plans. but plans are destroyed when you have public threats. it's a matter of good leadership to be prepared for that. i think the country right now is a little bit concerned because the president seems to think when it's hot, the coronavirus is going to go away as though he thinks it's a bee or something like that. larry kudlow says the virus is contained. there's no scientific evidence for that. and yesterday the director of homeland security couldn't answer the basic questions from senator kennedy. that is going a sow a lot of discord and concern. when you have a major public health threat, you have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. and as an indication that the country is not as ready as we could possibly be. now, the candidates tried to address the issue of why we're not. but more importantly as a country, we really have to be thinking about this because it is a very serious public health threat. and if you just blow it off, if you're not transparent and don't address it forthrightly, you can
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cause panic. you don't have to panic, but you have to be prepared. there's a lot of evidence we're not as well prepared as we should be. >> there are officials at the cdc suggesting that parents call the children's schools to figure out what the contingency plans are if the schools need to close down. we'll get to more in a moment. karen, i do want to address something that mayor landrieu said before which is he thought it was odd that elizabeth warren focused fair more on mayor bloomberg than on bernie sanders. she did bring up bernie sanders and i know this is something krystal will mention as well. but primarily on mayor bloomberg. and it also strikes me as fascinating that bernie sanders just scheduled a trip to massachusetts before super tuesday. what's that about? >> yeah. well, let's go right to her back yard and take the fight right to her. look, we're in this period -- things are getting intense. super tuesday is potentially going to really weed out some
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people. you could tell last night folks were feeling the heat. i think she decided, you know, she raised quite a bit of money last week off the last debate so she kind of came back at him quite hard. and i will say, i don't know if we played this moment yet, but you know, when she was talking, the room was kind of with her when she initially was talking about those nondisclosures. sort of ironic on the day when for harvey weinstein is the me too generation or movement. you know, had a big victory that we're having this conversation. but then when she, you know, i i think a lot of people thought she had it there and she was winning. and then this is a great example of what happens when you go too far. she went too far in making the comment about what mayor bloomberg had said allegedly to a pregnant woman. and that's when, actually, the arena -- people started booing. and they were booing her because they felt like that's out of bounds. you went too far. and it was a very awkward moment. and she did, though, also try to
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distinguish herself from senator sanders more so than i think we've seen her do in previous debates. >> and yet, krystal, when we sit down with voters. you'll see some coming up as well as gary tuchman sat down with south carolina voters. you do hear people who have a lot of support for elizabeth warren. they think that amy klobuchar continues to win in these debates and she acquits herself really well. tom steyer is doing really well in south carolina. and so the idea that some people need to get off the stage, what are your thoughts on that? >> well, i think things are going to become very clear coming out of south carolina. because elizabeth warren but especially pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar have not been able to find any support among voters of color. they've all been drawing from the same pool of college educated white people. and so i thought it was really interesting. yes, elizabeth warren came after bernie sanders trying to argue she'd be more effective, et cetera. certainly her more aggressive fire was trained at mike
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bloomberg. but she also did something that was very helpful for bernie sanders. she made the case eni thought very effectively that progressive ideas are winning ideas. and in fact, the risky choice would be to go with, you know, a corporatist like bloomberg who's been a republican who is not going to excite the base, who progressives and young people and voters of color, working class voters of color being brought into the democratic party may not show up for. i thought that was really important. i thought she did that particularly well. >> mayor, krystal brings up an interesting subject which is the idea of race. mayor buttigieg brought this up. seven white candidates on stage last night in a state where african-americans make up 60% of the voting population of the democratic primary. you have some experience in this area being a white guy your whole life like me. but also being mayor of new orleans. this is something you have really embraced your whole career. >> i represented a city that was
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65% african-american and got re-elected twice. i would never have been elected any time if the jobs i supported weren't for the african-american community. and the african-american community demands and needs to be paid attention to. i think the candidates last night tried to address those issues in a forthright way. i don't know that they went as deep as members of the african-american want to go through. there's not just one african-american community. and although criminal justice is critically important, it's not the only thing the african-american thinks about. and soing they really put them to the test last night. i think the response was halfway okay. not fully okay. but essentially and i think this is the point that krystal's making about bernie and his supporters, people need to be seen. they need to be heard. and they need the issues they care about to be addressed in an honest, authentic way. and the people they know, like, and think are being truthful for them are the ones they're going to support. >> we are about to hear some of that very same sentiment, mayor. thank you for setting that up so
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well. krystal, karen, thank you both very much. so first coming up on "new day," we'll speak live with two of the democratic candidates. amy klobuchar and tom steyer. >> and also watch tonight's back-to-back-to back-to-back town halls. michael bloomberg, joe biden, amy klobuchar, elizabeth warren. >> then what we're talking about, african-americans make up a majority of democratic voters in south carolina. so coming up we sit down with a group of those all-important voters about which candidate has their support. people, our sales now apply to only 10 frames. a new low! at visionworks, our sales are good on all of our frames. why are you so weird? use your tax return and get 50% off any pair. visionworks. see the difference.
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all eyes on south carolina before the primary there this saturday. so we thought it would be a good time to revisit a group of black south carolina voters we met a month ago to see how they're feeling about their choices today. back then, some were still candidate shopping. as of this week, most of their feelings have solidified. here is our latest pulse of the people. show of hands, how many of you
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have already made up your minds who you'll vote for? four-ish. okay. and what are you waiting for, alex? >> my candidate presently is not running. >> what does that mean? >> well, i'm a bloomberg fan. i feel like he has the best chance to beat trump. his business background is so much better than trump's. >> okay. cassandra, who are you leaning towards? >> i think i'm still with tom steyer. i'll see how it goes for him this saturday in south carolina. >> benny, who are you leaning towards? >> one candidate for me is actually laying out really detailed, concise policy proposals. >> and that's elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren, yes. >> jennifer? >> bernie sanders will be most likely the person i vote for on february 29th.
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i have $179,000 of student loans in myself and my children. so that's really at the top. >> so at this point, i'm undecided. i really am. days before. >> what's going to make your decision between now and saturday? >> i wish i knew. i'm going to talk more, study more. i'm just being honest. i don't know. >> who are you leaning towards? >> i am going to continue throwing my support behind elizabeth warren. one thing that i noticed is that elizabeth warren transcended from the republican party to the democratic party. so if there's anyone with the electability and the likelihood to maintain the votes or harness the support from swing voters or moderate voters, i believe elizabeth warren has that capability. >> by the way, joe biden is still leading in the polls in your state. >> i think a lot of people felt like i did, like he was a sure bet. i thought biden was the dude that could get black people,
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straight people, gay, whoever. he was a unifier. thus far he's been in two of the whitest places in the country and he's lost miserably. >> i think biden feels that blacks are going to vote for him just because of obama. >> like it's a given. >> he thinks that's a given. we don't all think alike. so don't put us in a box. i feel like that's what biden is doing to blacks in south carolina. >> i think a lot of the issues we talk about nationally, i can give you examples of how they impact south carolina directly. i could take you places where there are no healthy foods for people to eat. there are education issues. there are issues of segregation. >> a lot of families that i work with, a lot of them are losing their housing vouchers. there are students that are homeless. their parents just cannot afford even the rent, you know, to just maintain their households. >> we're talking about all these hot button issues that are
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national. south carolina is experiencing them directly. >> bernie sanders, a show of hands. how many of you have been surprised by his ascent? how do you make sense of that? zb for me, i see how this previous campaign team was mostly white and now it's more integrated as far as representation of different ethnic groups. they have an actual office in charleston. so i just would walk in. there were people in there that looked like me that were hispanic that weren't all white. >> how many of you are concerned he'll be painted with the socialism label and that will hurt chances in the general? >> no doubt. it's going to get challenged. >> it worries you? >> but i also think people are voting for him for a reason. it's not like he's stumbling and bumbling. people are voting for him for a reason. >> and as a socialist, correct me if i'm wrong, he should have been working to completely dismantle the institution of
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capitalism as we know it. however, i feel like he's working within to reform the capitalism. >> so let's go around and everybody share their biggest anxiety as you -- as we head into these next months. >> i just got the possibility of trump winning another term. i just think he'll just go on a tangent and just be destructive for this country. >> my anxiety? the russian interference. i just think this -- you know, there could be interferences from whatever angle and i'm not sure who it's going to favor in the long run. >> just knowing what he's done to the courts and all of these other systems that, you know, he appoints people. he appoints the secretary of education. just the erosion of protections for people. >> jennifer, your biggest anxiety in the next few months? >> it's that there will be a sabotage, whatever democratic -- whatever the democratic ticket looks like.
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there will be sabotage. >> between gerrymandering, voter suppression, and so many shenanigans, we don't have time to name them. i believe in the american people. i don't believe in the power structure right now that will do and is doing anything to remain in power. >> i also am terrified that within the new freshman class of congress, we will see a resurgence of the gop party in the senate and the house. >> why? >> when the impeachment happened, i feel like that was the epitome of the power of the republican party for the nation to see. >> i think pelosi was right about the impeachment. >> what? >> should never have happened. >> i disagree with that. >> but look at his numbers. that's what i'm talking about. >> but when somebody's breaking the law, what do you do? >> i understand.
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>> you hold them accountable. >> if we can't hold the president accountable, what are we? what are we? >> i agree with what you're saying, but pelosi has h a good point. >> we put those people there. it falls on the electorate. it falls on us. >> on that note, they feel their responsibility really strongly. they are taking their vote very seriously as you can hear in this primary. i should also mention i sat down with them on monday. so it was before last night's debate. it's possible that they now feel -- have different feelings, stronger feelings about joe biden than they did on that day because of his strong performance last night. but they are really engaged in what's happening. >> what strikes me is something we've seen for months now that democratic voters particularly african-americans are concerned about elect account. very concerned. so to hear a group of african-american voters note that joe biden did poorly with white voters, right? why did they know that? because what they want is they want to win. they want to win. and so they want to make sure
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that whoever they're going to end up supporting can win with everybody. >> wait until you hear what they have to say about mike bloomberg on that very note tomorrow. that's a tease. all right. meanwhile, there are more than 25 million people under a severe weather advisory today. this is a powerful winter storm. it's packing heavy snow and strong winds. it is intensifying as it spreads east. chad myers has our forecast. what's happening, chad? >> alisyn, so far an underachiever for snow. but that's about to change. it will start to pick up as the day goes on. still winter weather advisories all the way from the midwest to the northeast. this weather is presented by kay where your love story is the most important one of all. so let's get right to it. we'll see the rain showers come in across parts of the southeast. we'll see snow across the northern plains, across parts of chicago. only about an inch and a half for you even down to midway. but more will go toward gary. more will go toward even detroit and flint.
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in that area. as the snow is just now finally developing. what is going to happen for the northeast, it's going to get windy. we're going to get winds of 40 miles per hour as the storm gets into tomorrow morning. those 40 mile-per-hour winds could bring down power lines, trees, all those things. could even make some flash flooding along the coast with that on-shore flow pushing the tide on land. here you go. this is the snow. if you're impressed with 4 to 6 inches, there you go. most people will see less than that. >> all right, chad. thank you very much for that. u.s. stock futures swinging wildly this morning over fears of the coronavirus after two terrible days on wall street. one of the issues is the mixed messages coming from senior health officials in this country in the white house who seems to be saying everything's perfectly fine. details next. after being a part of millions of love stories...
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so this morning the cdc is warning americans they should
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prepare for a coronavirus crisis in the united states. that stark message seems to be at odds with what president trump and his administration are saying. jeremy dimon is live at the white house with more. jeremy, one thing is clear. which is the white house knows it's got to deal with this at some level. the president was just tweeting about it, but at what level and with whom is a little less clear given that most of the people we've heard from are economic advisers. >> reporter: that's right. and what we've heard from the president and from his chief economic adviser larry kudlow yesterday was painting a rosy picture. what they're mainly trying to do here is to calm the markets which have been on a sell off for the past two days straight dropping nearly 2,000 points in the dow. but the message that we're hearing from health experts in the u.s. government is very different. particularly from the centers for disease control. this is the message that we heard from the director of the immunization and respiratory diseases. she said yesterday we expect we will see community spread in this country. it's not so much a question of
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if this will happen anymore, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness. disruption to everyday life may be severe. so the clear message from the cdc is that this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. and amid that warning from the cdc, what we saw yesterday on capitol hill was really some outrage and concern and a lot of questions being asked by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. and one of the issues that raised questions and particularly drew friendly fire from one republican senator was the president's claim and his administration's claim that he was very close to a vaccine. the secretary of homeland security chad wolf yesterday saying they were merely months away, senator john kennedy a republican put that question to the health and human services. listen. >> the secretary of the department of homeland security which is charged with keeping us
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safe just testified about ten minutes ago. >> one could not develop a vaccine in a month and a half. that's never happened in history. >> maybe you ought to talk to the director of homeland security before he spreads that too far. >> so you can see there those questions still mounting on capitol hill as the president just returned to washington from india. the president there perhaps trying to now reassure lawmakers. as well as with the cdc. guys, back to you. >> all right. jeremy diamond at the white house, keep us posted. i expect we will hear more from the president on part of this today. maybe more on the stock market than the spread of the disease. >> people are hungry for information if it's factual. coming up, we're going to speak to a senior health official in this country about exactly what americans should be paying attention to.
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they're urging businesses, hospitals, and communities to prepare for an outbreak. joining me now is the director of the institute of infectious diseases. he will brief the white house this morning. it's always helpful to speak with you. yesterday we heard from dr. nancy misone who said it's not a question of if. it's a question of when coronavirus spreads in the united states. and she also said she personally has called her children's school to talk about what their contingency plans are for when or if they have to shut down. and i know that there are so many parents because i've heard from them who heard that and said, wait a second here. this sounds very serious. why is she saying that and what's the significance? >> well, what the doctor was saying is if you look at what's going on outside of the united states in the united states right now we have 14 cases, 12 of which have traveled from wuhan, china, and two other
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travellers. the others are a bunch of people who repatriated from the "diamond princess" ship that was in yokohama. there have been no secondary cases in the united states. so as things are right now things are under control. but what nancy was saying is if you look at the other countries, you look at italy, iran, japan, south korea, they are having community spread in their countries. which means that it likely will spread to other countries. and when that happens, then you have the makings of a pandemic. what she was saying was that being the case, if we have a pandemic, almost certainly we're going to get impacted. therefore these are the kind of things you need to think about. she wasn't saying you need to close schools tomorrow. or you need to do teleworking tomorrow. she was saying when we get a influx of individuals who are infected and we have community spread, these are the things one
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must be prepared to do. and i think that's what the confusion was. saying that things are stable here which they are. and at the same time, we need to be ready to do things to contain an outbreak if it were to occur. >> what does it matter that things are stable right now if there is likely to be a pandemic or if there is likely to be community spread? which you just suggested it is likely. >> no, no. i mean, you make a very good point. you need to be prepared for what very likely will occur. and i think the confusion was the message of what is happening now. and what we need to be prepared for. but nancy was absolutely correct. we need to be able to think about how we will respond to a pandemic outbreak. >> yeah. larry kudlow who is the economic adviser is -- i'm not aware of medical training he has. are you aware of any medical training he has? >> no, i'm not. >> so larry kudlow says the united states is almost completely airtight when it
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comes to coronavirus. and again, according to you, that may be so. it may be contained in the united states right now. but from the disease control perspective, what matters is what's going to happen, correct? so the message that it's contained right now, how much does that matter? >> well, i mean, i think the point that he was trying to make is where we are here. and you're right. there's two ways of looking at it. you could look at it, what's going on right now? are we containing it? the answer is yes. he was not looking at what might happen if, in fact, we have a pandemic in the rest of the world. because it's very clear. if we have a global pandemic, no country is going to be without impact. for sure. >> do you think that's likely? what is a pandemic and do you think it's likely? >> well, a pandemic has a number of, you know, imperric definitions. but generally the core definition is what you have is continual spread of sustained transmission from person to person to person in multiple countries, regions, and
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hemispheres throughout the world simultaneously. that's what pandemic means. essentially involving the entire world. so right now today, we have a bad epidemic in china. and we have countries that are starting to have community spread which is essentially getting us closer and closer to what you would consider the definition of a pandemic. >> we don't have time for much more, but i'm learning so much here. i want to ask you one more question which is one of the things the president said yesterday. we're very close to a vaccine. now, i know this is something you know a lot about president. this is your job. how close are we to a vaccine? >> well, the confusion is we're close to starting a phase one trial to determine safety. we're going to do that in about one and a half to two months. but that doesn't mean you have a vaccine. in order to get a vaccine, that's praly

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