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and i'm here helping out five days a week. my wife dorothea took a picture of me washing dishes. what's the caption? i said, "do what you can." >> to learn more an job bon jovi's "do what you can" go to you're live in the "cnn newsroom." thanks for staying with me. i'm ana cabrera in new york. a battle foughtality t alitt th level of the u.s. government over who to believe with more than 130,000 americans dead of the coronavirus and a staggering number of new infections emerging every day, the trump white house reportedly is working to discredit dr. anthony fauci, the straight-talking infectious disease expert who served six u.s. presidents. a senior white house official telling cnn that certain people
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in the white house don't trust dr. fauci anymore. they accuse him of not having the president's best interests at heart. the president only yesterday wore a mask in public for the first time. something most americans have been doing for months. largely because of sound advice from scientists like dr. anthony fauci. so who to believe? a globally-respected scientist and public health authority? or the man in the white house, whose message over and over has been, don't worry. the coronavirus is going to disappear. cnn's kristen holmes is at the white house for us. what else have we learned about this growing rift between dr. fauci and the president? >> reporter: ana, a white house working to discredit one of the nation's top health official would been extraordinary in any circumstance. given it's happening in the middle of a pandemic when we see cases surge it's striking. i reached out to the white house to talk about their relationship
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with dr. fauci, president trump and dr. fauci, and received a statement from a white house official that said that several white house officials are concerned about the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong on things, and then they included a list of things he said early on in the pandemic that were later debunked and linked two of these articles. this looks akin to opposition research and about one of the nation's top health experts, someone supposedly as wan adviser to president trump and a member of the coronavirus task force. we watched this tension build up really through the media over the last several weeks before president trump and dr. fauci. fauci speaking his mind, really, on certain things not holding his tongue, and often disagree wig the president. that is where that comes in what you said earlier about the distrust, the not having a president's back. this official said that several people believed that he's not really having the interest of the president if he's going to go and speak out and disagree with the president in the media.
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but i want to point out a couple of things that we've seen go back and forth. one of them is president trump over and over his line since the beginning of this pandemic was that the government's response was impeccable. they are doing everything they can. even as cases surged he has continued to say that the government's response was beautiful. we know he's called that at times. this is what dr. fouch auci had say this week about the government's response. >> when you compare us to other countries, i don't think you can say we're doing great. i mean, we're just not. >> reporter: that's pretty strong wording there. we're just not going great, when he knows that the president has said repeatedly that the government's response has been, again, beautiful, perfect, ideal. so it doesn't end there, though. at one point we saw in an interview fauci saying he wasn't sure where president trump was getting certain information from. then we saw president trump being interviewed on fox news and saying that fauci was a nice man but he had made a lot of
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mistakes. now it appears they are making it official, saying that several white house officials are concerned about these mistakes and are giving them to mistake, handing them out as though it is opposition research against dr. fauci. >> kristin holmes at the white house for us. thank you. i want to bring in senior political analyst for cnn, and host of "firing line" as well. nice to have you both here. been a while. margaret, start with you. fauci served sex presidents of both parties, republicans and democrats. he has is the top expert on this virus right now and the idea the white house is raising questions about him just because he's willing to openly disagree with the president when science matters, what it's your reaction to that? >> i mean, the reaction is that this is a partisan president who -- by the way, partisanship is not the problem. the problem, this is a president more interested in his own political re-election than he is in solving this crisis. remember, this president wanted this virus to go away.
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he said there were 15 cases in february. end of february. in march. soon there would be none. this is a president whose advisers were afraid to raise the issue of the coronavirus early on in order to have a full government response in a way that might have contained this virus, because they knew he so believed this would undermine his re-election prospects. come along with scientists, hard facts and hard truths about how the united states is responded to this. what can president trump do? he can't fire him way tweet, but he can go to every end possible to discredit him, and that's what we're seeing. >> what are your thoughts on this? >> i mean, that's a republican talking. look, you know, donald trump, the fact that the white house is doing opposition research issuing president undercutting the leading scientist who americans have more confidence in than the president on the issue of this pandemic. killing over 130,000 of our fellow americans is so nuts we
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can't begin to slip into a normalization of just another bad day. in fact, the white house says they don't think dr. fauci has donald trump's best interests at heart. he's not supposed. that's not his job. his job is to have the american people's health at heart. this is disgusting, pathetic and sad but all more of the same we've seen from this white house. they should be focussing on combating a hazard. >> the president, we know, based on reporting what's best for him and his re-election. talk about the affect this could have on his re-election. joe biden beating him by up to 14 percentage points. according to a cbs news poll, it's not reflected in three key states some of the hardest hit by the coronavirus pandemic. biden leading trump by six points. arizona basically high. same in texas. no clear leader there, or for either of those last two states.
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when you think about these states and the coronavirus surging in all three of these states, margaret, would you expect biden to be polling better than he is? >> i -- i would expect given that there are 25-plus million americans out of work, that the coronavirus has created this residual economic collapse. that the president, who is running on a booming economy, the best of any president in his lifetime, would be taking a hit in the polls. that is to be expected. what is also to be expected, we're early here. i mean, i really hesitate to -- it's very interesting to mark these polls but one data point in a moment in time. at this point of the election in 2016 hillary clinton was also leading donald trump. we haven't quite fixed the modeling problems that caused pollsters to believe that hillary clinton would run away with the election in 2016. bottom line, this election is going to be about the economy.
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the states that are hit worst by the coronavirus in combination with how the coronavirus impashi impacted their economies is going to suffer and that's going to be everything about donald trump's election process. >> these polls, you know, not simply polling coverage. it this is about three specific states. arizona, texas and florida. only one of those states, florida, is typically considered a swing state. a republican president shouldn't have to be spending money, you want to find the truth, follows money. as these states, in trouble. running ads in arizona. neck and neck in texas. that's a stunner. republicans haven't had to worry about texas in forever. florida, six points significant. partly because biden is doing well among senior citizens. that's a real difference from past candidates. republican democrats we've seen. but martha tha mcsally is in real trouble in arizona. texas, neck and neck. not why biden isn't doing bet r better, that's the trump campaign taking on water in
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states it shouldn't have to fight. >> good to remind viewers voters pick trump in all three of those states in the last election, in 2016. we saw joe biden roll out an economic message this week. biden's new slogan is "build back better." is that the best he can do? >> well, slogans -- donald trump's great strength is marketing, branding, slogans. democrat had a much harder time historically. he has a resolution to resonate for voters to voted for donald trump last time around and actually get things done in the infrastructure which should have been a no-brainer with this president but couldn't find a way to work across the aisle. it's not joe biden's strong suit. his strong suit is we know joe. the idea voters know who he is, that he cares about middle class and working-class folks. a long history going back to his 1988 presidential campaign doing it and the chops to make work
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again for those who folks who feel left out even from the last recovery before this one. >> and quick, in every one of the polls you look as the cross-tabs, the only place donald trump outperforms joe biden, handling of the economy. even admits the coronavirus and pandemic and economic fallout, in the midst of this, biden polls below donald trump when it comes to handling the economy and how voters think each candidate would handle the economy. that is where donald trump sk l excels. this election is coming down to whether joe biden has a better or worse slogan, most likely. it's going to come down to how the economy is looking and how voters feel about, a referendum on donald trump's handling of the economy, even during a pandemic, period. >> what about trump's ability to market and brand. we saw the president finally wear a mask yesterday publicly when visiting walter reed medical center.
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first lady melania trump post add video of her wearing a mask during a visit to a women's center in the past week. do you think we'll start seeing the president take a different position on masks trying to use them to his advantage? will we see maga masks on his website? >> shocked if we don't go there and see them already. i sure hope so. honest to god. the politics aside, masks save lives. and the administration -- by the way, dr. fauci had mixed messages on masks from the beginning, and what we know from looking at the country, handling this pandemic successfully, we know this is science that's there. masks will reduce the numbers, reduce the spread, and so every single person in this country including the president should wear them and wear them proudly, because they are serving others when they do it. >> yes. but no cure for the kind of stupid that politicized masks in the first place. the fact that the president has dragged his heels on this, has tried to politicize mask-wearing during a pandemic is just criminal negligence in terms of
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national leadership. it's great to see him show up late but really the message he and melania have been sending, the melania jacket worn so much before, i don't really care. do you? that's the thing. not the way to behave during a pandemic. >> great chemistry. good together on-air. >> should we do this for a living? >> do this again sometime. thank you. >> thanks, ana. have a great weekend. >> have a great rest of the weekend. new information on on another developing story this hour. at least 18 sailors, we've learned, are injured follow ag fire and explosion onboard this navy ship and you can see in these live images it is still burn. we'll take you live to california next. stay with us. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." the course structure the university of phoenix offers-
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we are following more breaking news this afternoon. an explosion onboard a navy warship in san diego. we're told at least 18 sailors are hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, but it is still burning. paul vercammen is following the story. we've learned the entire crew sauf the ship and accounted for but do we know what caused this fire? and this explosion? >> reporter: too early to tell, ana. what we understand now is you've got firefighters, federal firefighters, city of san diego firefighte firefighters, national city firefighters trying to put this out. we've seen at least three fire boats trying to get to this. a defense department official told us they believe the fire started near the well deck. let me try to describe what's in that area, i've been on the ship. the back end, trojan horse, a door opens up in the back of it. out of it comes a landing craft air cushion or an l-cac.
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that can carry six tanks or a couple of tankses and four other vehicles. when we launched out of that back end we sud he found ourselves on the shore at camp pendleton in no time as this air cushion l-cac flying through there. so did any of that sort of materiel get damaged in the fire? unknown yet. when will the fire be put out, that's unknown, but we heard from an expert in fire fighting from the city of new york, former commissioner and let's hear what he has to say. >> it looks like maybe the oil isn't burning, but now who knows what the heck is burning down there. they've got an awful lot of materiel like the admiral talks about. in there for maintenance and could have all kinds of equipment to do maintenance. could have been removing partitions, could be just so many things that could be burning at this point. it's going to be a while and a tremendous amount of damage that could have been avoided if they were able to get in there quickly and put it out.
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>> reporter: just checking in with a navy spokesman who was on the ground about 1,000 yards away from the fire. just couldn't see anything. the smoke still so thick, can be seen throughout san diego county. back to you now, ana. >> paul, have officials voiced concern about the fire spreading to other areas? other ships in the area? perhaps with the fuel that may be involved here? >> reporter: we're not hearing a lot of concern about that fuel. they think it's contained, and this ship has many, many decks, and that make it is a different fire fight from your standard, let's say, structure fire. there's metal ladders that go up and down and you certainly couldn't send firefighters down there to put it out. not hearing that. you've heard as we did concerned about the toxic plume of smoke. who knows what kind of witches' brew of chemicals could be going up into the air.
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>> thank you. we know you'll continue to follow this. and isaiah thomas is ready for the nba's return later this month, but with entire league descending on florida and more than 15,000 new cases. will the return to basketball work? we'll discuss live in the "cnn newsroom." don't go anywhere. trips are ber than daydreams. experience the adventure of a bigger world, in a highly capable lexus suv, at the golden opportunity sales event. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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basketball is back on. the nba bringing teams to florida this week even as that state has become the new epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic here in the u.s. players, coaches and staff will all be confined to the so-called nba bubble. at an isolated campus in orlando
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for what is a modified season. philadelphia 76er's player joel embiid taking extra precoxs just to get there. look at that suit. what he had to say about this bubble. >> i'm not a big fan of the idea, but, then again, you know, going to do my job. not going to let the city down. represent my city. what i've always done. my family and my teammates. so that the monster doesn't change. doesn't matter the fact that no one liked that idea and i don't think it's going to be safe enough. >> he's worried about his safety. talk about this with nba hall of famer isaiah thomas. also an nba tv tnt sports commentator. so great to have you here. the an honor. how does the league reassure a
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player like joel embiid who doesn't feel safe in florida. that state just reported 15,000 new cases of coronavirus in a single day. >> you know, it's extremely difficult to guarantee or to reassure the players that their safety is the utmost important thing. and all the nba and the nba players association can do is provide the testing and also make sure that from a health standpoint that they're giving them all the information that's possible. the world is going through a pandemic, and not only the players are worried about their safety, but everyone is worried about their safety. individually and also worried for the players. >> yeah. and in 1988, that championship, you, famously scored 25 points in one quarter against the lakers. hobbling around on seemingly one leg with a badly sprained ankle.
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so i share that story, because one aspect that's going to be so strange in this new normal is if a player in the playoff wakes up with a slight fever he's going to be expected to take himself out or risk taking out the whole team. how opposite is this experience going to be from how elite athletes are taught to overcome injury to win at all costs? >> you know, thsis where, you know -- this is a great question, because this is where the athlete always has to depend on his medical advisers, and also family and even public perception. because we -- we at those times need help in terms of protecting ourselves from ourselves, so to speak. and, you know, if you get a fever or what have you, i know that athlete is going to want to continue to play, because they're all there to win the championship. but it's going to be so critical
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and so important for the medical staff and also the general public to be able to give that athlete forgiveness if he or she has to sit out. >> what can you tell u.s. aboo what life is like for players inside the bubble? >> it sounds like it's, it's the most unique experience ever. i mean, in florida, we know the pandemic and the numbers are spiking, and florida recorded its, you know, its heaviest daft virus in te day in terms of infection. but inside the bubble appears to be probably the safest place in florida to be right now. they have all the medical tests. they have all the equipment. they have the social distancing. they have everything that you would require for them to be successful in this experiment. so what life is like there, it's probably safer there, but at the
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same time, you definitely are restricted in terms of what your normally everyday routine would be. >> got to feel so foreign in many, many ways. finally, isaiah, i want to ask you about lebron james who says he will not wear one of the nba approved social justice messages this year. equality and black lives matter for players to choose from for their jerseys that they would like to. take a listen to king james. >> just something that didn't really, you know, seriously resonate with my mission, with my goal. i would have loved to have a say-so on what went on the back of my jersey. i had a couple things in mind, but wasn't a part of that process. which is okay. i'm absolutely okay with that. what i will continue to do off the floor and when talking to you guys and when -- everything that i do has a purpose, it has a meaning. so i don't need to have
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something on the back of my jersey for people to understand my mission, to know what i'm about. >> he has so much influence, we know. not just within the sport of basketball but around the country in many different ways map do you make of james snubbing the league on this social justice messaging effort? >> well, i'm hearing two things. the first thing is that he wanted to be involved in the process. and he wasn't involved in the process. consequently, he felt like whatever the message is on the back of the jersey, his body of work outside of the playing field has and will stand the test of time. so he can always point to his body of work outside of the playing field in terms of what he stood for and what he stands for, and he's saying he doesn't need the -- the -- the message on the back of the jersey to reflect what his true intentions
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are in terms of his heart. but i think, you know, the league definitely -- if anyone should have been involved in that process it definitely should have been him, because he's been the leader out front on a lot of these issues and the league definitely made a mistake by not involving him in the process. >> isaiah thomas. thank you so much for the conversation. a pleasure. >> thank you. stay safe! >> oh, please, stay safe as well. thank you for that. as florida continues to set new records in the worst way, we are going to talk to a doctor on the front line there's who has already fallen ill himself. this, while trying to save the lives of others. stay with me. you're in the "cnn newsroom." grubhub's gonna reward you for that with a $5 off perk. (doorbell rings) - [crowd] grubhub! (fireworks exploding)
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[ chuckles ] so, what are some key takeaways from this commercial? did any of you hear the "bundle your home and auto" part? -i like that, just not when it comes out of her mouth. -yeah, as a mother, i wouldn't want my kids to see that. -good mom. -to see -- wait. i'm sorry. what? -don't kids see enough violence as it is? -i've seen violence. -maybe we turn the word "bundle" into a character, like mr. bundles. -top o' the bundle to you. [ laughter ] bundle, bundle, bundle. -my kids would love that. -yeah. turning to the stalling erg numberg -- staggering numbers coming out of florida. 15,000 cases reported mark ag new single day high not just for florida but for any state
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including new york at the height of its outbreak. my next guest has been on front line of this crisis in florida and while treating infectious patients he himself fell ill along with this entire family. an icu physician at jackson south medical center in miami and joins us now. doctor, glad to hear you have come through this, and are feeling better yourself. thank you for taking the time to talk with us. the numbers coming from florida sound awful. what are you seeing and experiencing there on the ground? >> so it's not just about more testing. we have a lot more patients. the jackson system, we have 387 patients with covid right now across three hospitals. that is the most we've ever had. in my hospital i have 80 koesh cov covid patients more than double we had back in march.
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these increased numbers are seen in the hospital and it is stressing the hospital. we are fortunately getting 100 nurses from the government and my hospital system that's hired an additional 80. another 180 boots on the ground helping. but end of the day, it's the beds that continue to get filled up, that continue to be the problem. >> and when you talk about 80 patients in your hospital alone, what more can you tell us about the patients white house obviously giving up privacy information, but can you tell us about the types of symptoms, how sick they are? their demographics? >> so we get i'd say one of three different types of patients. we get the really sick ones. the ones who are on high amounts of oxygen, or intubated, or require non-invasive ventilation. of the 80 approximately 25 of the really sick ones and another half, another 25 or so patients who have mild symptoms, just need a little bit of oxygen and then the small subset of
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patients that we find the covid accidentally. i've had ankle fractures. a guy walking down the block fell, tripped, and his covid comes back. the scary part about that is his covid doesn't come back right away. we don't have ability to do one-hour testing on every patient so that patient goes to a regular floor and 24, 36 hours later we find the ankle fracture actually has covid. >> wow. amazing. miami-dade accounts for one quarter of all cases in florida right now. do you have what you need? do you have enough beds? do you have enough personnel? do you have enough remdesivir to help with the surge? >> we actually did run out of remdesivir a few days ago, but jackson was able to secure a cachet from gilead. so we have been able to resume remdesivir on the sick patients that require it.
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beds, we are stressing and straining, but we still have it. we have plans -- we've gone from one covid unit to two, three, four, five, now into a sixth area and we have areas, plans to move on as needed. eventually we're going to be doubling up patients, covid patients in private rooms to, two patients to a room. >> what about ppe? is that an issue at all? >> it hasn't been, for the jackson system. we have not had any problems with ppe. i have heard down in miami from some of my other friends at other hospitals their nurses are told you get one gal lon a day. we haven't had those restrictions in the jackson system. we use the kbbunny suits sparingly. only in the procedures that would really generate a lot of virus, like intubation or excavating the patient. the rest of the time they're just wearing gowns, masks, face
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shields and gloves and goggles, but we have not had a struggle or had to limit -- there has been -- the needed ppe at least in our system. >> good news. doctor, love to keep in touch with you to continue through the journey. thank you for taking the time and thank you for all you do. >> sure. thank you, ana. coming up, so many parents desperate to send their kids back to school this fall, but teachers are worried. one superintendent cnn spoke to said they would need the space of five pentagons essentially in order to space out students safely. much more, straight ahead. at t-mobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. saving 50% vs. other carriers with 2 unlimited lines for less than $30 each. call 1-800-t-mobile or go to c'mon pizza's here. whoa! is that shaq? this is my new pizza the shaq-a-roni and it's bigger than pizza
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parents wants children to go back to school this fall. the question, can it be done safely? cnn's dana bash visited one of the largest school districts in the country to find out if that's possible. >> as you come in, you can start to see the science we're putting into our schools about six foot social distancing. >> reporter: in fairfax county, virginia, prepping for back-to-school in the age of covid-19. >> we're going to have plexiglas. >> reporter: this is new. not here before? >> this is new. >> reporter: and limited. just two days a week in-person learning. rest, virtual. parents also have the option to te keep their kids home entirely. >> in a classroom spaced apart desks at six feet. we're going to have ppe for all teachers and students and we're going to have a return to school in a new normal. >> reporter: scott raybrand is the superintendent for fairfax
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county public schools in northern virginia, a d.c. suburb which education secretary betsy devos recently singled out criticizing its return to school plan. >> one of the most well-funded, i would call it an elite public school system in america, offered families a so-called choice for this fall. >> her argument, no excuse for you all not being able to figure out how to get kids back to school full-time? >> covid hits all of us, it doesn't discriminate, and the guidelines for six-feet social distancing simply mean you can't put every kid in the school with the existing square footage footprint. it's that simple. >> reporter: they're one of the largest in country. more than 188,000 students from pre-k through 12th grade. >> the size of five pentagons. you would need another five
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pentagons of space to safely accommodate all the students of fairfax county. >> reporter: doesn't sound feasible. >> it doesn't sound feasible. >> reporter: this woman hopes it sounds better for her kir kindergartner and son. >> how did it go? >> it's hard. getting him online. technical difficulties. being there -- i felt like an i.t. person which i.t. is not my field. soap it was crazy. >> reporter: she says the school uses multiple online platforms which made it confusing. >> this generation of kids are very technology-savvy. so they should be able to do this on their own, but they can't, because it's got, like, ditch links to different things. >> reporter: she's a single mom, but considers herself lucky. she can work from home and has
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help, including her own mother who lives with them. >> even my mom being here. even with that help, sometimes, know, you've got to be like -- quiet! i'm on a call. sometimes up to 2:00, 3:00 in the morning, because when the house is quiet i can focus. and then, you know, you have to be up in the morning trying to do the best you can. >> reporter: two full-time jobs? >> basically. >> reporter: despite all that she plans to choose full-time virtual learning for several reasons including protecting her 71-year-old mother. >> i don't want to put her in a position where my kids are going back and forth from school. up know, we can all be very cautious, but you never know. >> reporter: he plea to the superintendent, make virtual learning a lot smoother for her and her kids. >> your response, how have you worked to fix it? >> we had to weeks where we struggled, and then we had two months where we soared. i wish we were able to do that
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more honing in on leadership and who's policing the police. >> must go! >> reporter: in los angeles, black lives matter has been demonstrating for two and a half years. their target -- a black woman, los angeles county district attorney jackie lacy. >> as a black woman i would rather be celebrating other black women and i do. it's not a matter of emotion. it's a matter of struggling for justice for our people [ chanting ] >> reporter: protesters recasting the november d.a.'s calling out front-runner incumbent lacy as an unwillingness to prosecute police officers for deadly shootings. >> reporter: how does it feel to hear black lives matter target you? >> surreal. they're treating me like "i'm the man." but if they only knew that i'm the girl from the neighborhood. i'm the first african-american woman to hold this job in 150
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years, and here i get in here and the most vocal group who wants to take me out is a group known at black lives matter. >> reporter: now in her second term, lacy is up for re-election in november. a seat she nearly won outright in the primary gaining just shy of 50% of the vote. but that vote was before george floyd's death, before the nation even amid the pandemic turned its attention to the checkered relationship between the law and people of color. >> good morning. >> reporter: in june, congressman adam schiff pulling his support saying in a tweet he feels his endorsement a year ago of the district attorney no longer has the same meaning. >> i don't know a lot about why he pulled his support, but i do know and i have heard from electives, that they're being threatened. emails. >> reporter: with a list of what they call jackie lacy's seven deadly sins, blm los angeles say
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she cares more about her ties and old establishment than her color and that she is led by the law and only a fraction of police shooting cases brought to her since she took office involved unarmed individuals. >> you may look at a shooting by an officer and say, oh, they could have shot him in the leg. that's not the test. under california law. the test is, was somebody's life endangered? >> reporter: this reaching a boiling point in march mplgt. >> invite her out to the community meeting. >> reporter: protesters showed up at her home. >> good morning. are you going to shoot me? >> get off of my porch. i will shoot you. >> reporter: that's lacy's husband point ag gun at protesters on the front porch of their house. the district attorney apologized for her husband's actions, but that wasn't enough for black lives matter. >> it also speaks volumes that david lacy was not charged in
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that act. >> i especially don't agree you ought to be able to come on to their property. i think that crosses the line. >> reporter: for your husband, was that crossing the line? >> i think so. just the two of us in there, and -- you know, it was a scary, a scary event. >> reporter: ironically, lacy's opponent is former lapd officer george gascon more recently san francisco's d.a. >> jackie lacy must go. >> reporter: black lives matter doesn't make endorsements but promises to take whoever to task. >> no matter who occupies the office there's going to be a problem with the office itself so we have to hold accountable however occupies the office. >> reporter: if you were to win your third term, does it look differently than where you are now? >> my next term will be my last term. i want to continue to use the bully pulpit of the district attorney's office to push for change, because i don't want it to end like this.
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right? as the first african-american to hold this job and protesters ran around, that doesn't seem like a just ending. >> reporter: stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. and taking on injustice and inequality across america as part of an all new season of e a united shades of america" premiering next sunday at 10:00 right here on cnn. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. thanks for staying with me. were you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm ana cabrera in new york. the cfb krv is woronavirus is w. people are dieing. instead of a plan, the administration is raising questions about their top disease expert, d anthony fauci. a man who has served six presidents. one senior administration officials says some officials within the white house do not trust dr. fauci, according to this source.
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those officials think dr. fauci is more out for himself and ignores the best interests of the president when he openly disagrees with president trump. to be clear, dr. fauci has openly disagreed with the president to inform americans what the science actually says. so that people know the reality of what we are up against with this virus. cnn's kristen holmes joins us from the white house. kristen what else have you learned about think grows riff between d fauci and the presidents? >> reporter: ana, it's taken quite a turn. we now have a statement from the white house that appears to be aiming to discredit one of the nation's top health experts, anthony fauci. when asked about his relationship with president trump, which we have seen play out in the media the last several weeks, tension growing, the white house said that several white house officials are concerned about the number of times that dr. fouch hauci h weren't wrong on things and listed out interviews made early in the pandemic's to be clear,


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