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is what you get from your government, a fight over who to believe and who on the president's team can be trusted. a top economic adviser to the president says dr. anthony fauci is just about always wrong and that you shouldn't listen to his advice. that as dr. fauci tells us the current pandemic may, in his view, approach the horror of the 1918 flu epidemic, and as the trump white house also sidelines another key science-based agency, the cdc. the pattern here is crystal clear. the president wants you to listen to him, not to the experts, but he can't hide the numbers and the numbers are troubling. period. take a look. another 60,000+ new coronavirus cases confirmed and that runs the total and the number the president is insisting is low, look at it again and it's starting to rise. florida reported a single-day high for deaths, as alabama, and utah. 14 states reported
hospitalizations which almost always sadly then sends the death count up still more. the president cheering this morning what might be a glimmer of hope in this dark coronavirus summer. moderna's vaccine candidate produced immune responses in all who volunteered to take it according to those published in the new england journal of medicine, a fully vetted and readily available vaccine is still a good ways off. the coronavirus task force meets today in private and with the soaring summer case count come new warnings about whether it's safe to reopen schools and new debates about the only way to stop the spread now is to roll back some of the economic reopening. the moment is urgent. the issue is quite complicated and very consequential and from the president another simplistic and not to mention, a ridiculous attempt to explain it all away. >> frankly, if we didn't test you wouldn't have all of the headlines. think of this, if we didn't do testing instead of testing over 40 million people, if we did
half the testing we'd have half the cases. if we did another -- you cut that in half we'd have yet again half of that, but the headlines are always testing. >> the headline the president says is always testing. that's not the only headline, but the testing is critical because it gives us the numbers that feed this map and this map at the moment, i'm sorry, mr. president, is quite troubling. let's take a look. you don't have to be a scientist to know 38 states heading in the wrong direction, meaning a higher case count this week than last week is bad, five-plus months into the crisis. 38 states. 33 in the light orange and they're going up, and they're 10 to 50% higher than last week. five states in the danger zone, this week 50% or higher. 38 states going up. you have nine states holding steady and that's the beige and only three states heading down, maine, delaware and out in the west there and arizona starting to go down a bit after having a
tough stretch and 38 states heading up is bad news for the country, with the highest positivity rate. yes, mr. president there's more testing and the key when you get that testing is to have the positivity rate coming low and that means you're stopping the community spread and it's more than 18% and in florida 19%, back positive. alabama, 17%, texas 17% and arizona is actually down, but it's almost still 25% in arizona and that is a troubling number for the positivity rate. hospitalizations, this was the peak in april 21st and remember back in april when we were at the peak of the coronavirus crisis and it was going down the hill and now we're going back up and just shy of the peak on april 21st in terms of people hospitalized across the country with coronavirus cases. we'll continue to watch this number. you want it to go down and you can see in recent days it is heading up. hospitalizations, 14 states, as we noted and you see them here on the map and many of them here in the south and the southeast and the others out west.
14 states reporting record hospitalizations and that is not a trend headed in the wrong direction. you see this happening and you see the numbers and politicians and scientists and everyone explaining this, remember this, the united states and the european union went up at the same time. population is roughly comparable. we have 50 states and a mix of countries and up the hill at the same time. here's where the european union is today. the united states started to come down. there's where we go right now and as we watch this curve and it is troubling, florida is the hottest of america's coronavirus hot spots right now. the miami area right now hit the hardest, as well. hospitalizations up and let's go straight down to rosa flores on the ground in miami. rosa, new numbers from today from florida yet? >> reporter: yes. the florida department of health just reporting more than 10,000 cases. this means that the state of
florida has surpassed more than 300,000 cases. look, here in miami-dade they had a session with governor ron desantis and they asked for more data so that they can have the information necessary to make decisions, to save lives. here is the reality on the ground upon the city of miami mayor says he's being pressured to shut down the economy in the next one to two weeks because they need to turn this around, he says in the next week to four weeks. the reality in miami-dade county, the positivity rate is 31% and this according to miami-dade and the hospitalization is up 56%. when it comes to icu beds, 65% and also ventilators, 92%. jackson health reports that in the past month they've seen a
226% increase in covid-19 patients. here is carlos nagoya. >> we have a lot of aggressive, non-compliant people, people that do not believe that masking is the wrong people to do. a lot of young people say so what if i get it? if i get it it doesn't mean anything and the chal everyones that we have in miami is we are a very diverse community and a lot of multigenerational families. >> reporter: as we look across the state, 54 icu hospitals are at capacity. ten of those are right here in miami-dade. john? >> rosa flores on the ground for us and grateful for your reporting in miami. hopefully one of these days it turns more optimistic and with us to share her expertise is dr. jen kate at the kaiser family foundation. it's good to see you again, dr. kates. i wish we were having a more positive conversation. i just want to pick up florida. florida is the hottest of the
hot spots right now. when you hear 31% positivity in miami-dade. we are five-plus months into this, if you are still in a major american urban area getting a 31% positivity rate and i showed the numbers in south carolina, alabama, texas and so on. when your positivity rate is in double digits and in some cases 20%, 30%, what does that tell you about where we are? >> that means in florida, it's a major hot spot in the u.s. and the positivity rate is widespread community transmission and the epidemic is not being controlled and it's a big red flag and you want to see that number coming down while testing is going up and that's not what's happening. it's getting worse. >> so one of the things that some people in the trump administration are, quote, unquote celebrating this. we saw the president finally in public wearing a mask at one event and this is the cdc director, robert redfield. listen. >> glad to see the president wear a mask this week and the
vice president. we need them to set the example. should we be celebrating that now or should we be setting that example maybe weeks and months ago? >> the evidence has been pretty clear for a while that face coverings are a critical intervention and they've got to replace social distancing and walk six feet apart and without face coverings we won't bring down the rates that we're seeing. >> the evidence has been there and it's better late than never, and this is what people should do and it's about protecting the community around us and i think it can make a big difference. we've seen that throughout the world and we've seen that in places in the u.s. and the cdc came out with a strong editorial yesterday about this and encouraging the american public to wear face masks and i hope this will increase the willingness of people willing to do so. >> this is the business of kaiser and kaiser is a great
global resource. you collect data on health care trends across the united states and how does it compare to last week, and how does it compare to last month and it shapes policy decisions. what does it tell you, and i just read a little bit in "the new york times" today, that the president is telling the united states send your data now to a washington database, bypass the centers for disease control which for years has been the place where you do this. the trump administration ordering hospitals to bypass the centers for disease control and prevention and send all covid-19 patient information to a central database in washington on wednesday. does that trouble you? have we switched to some new system? can they convince you it's better than the cdc way? >> i think it raises questions that we do not have answers to. is it to streamline things, or expedite things? it could be the case. what will be the role of the
cdc. we rely on data, asking reporters as do think tanks and the american public to try to understand trends. the cdc has been critical for that throughout the history of its existence and certainly during covid. there are questions of who will have access to the data, will it be public and what will be the transparency here? i have a lot of questions and everyone does. >> jen kates, very much appreciate your insights today. as always, thank you. >> up next for us, a trump administration official attacking a colleague, dr. anthony fauci. miss mixed messaging from the white house again in the middle of a pandemic. for adults with moderate to severe crohn's or ulcerative colitis, stelara® can provide relief, and is the only approved medication to reduce inflammation on and below the surface of the intestine in uc. you, getting on that flight? back off, uc. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb.
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explaining to do. navarro the author of a scathing essay in "usa today" attacking dr. anthony fauci. the white house says navarro did not go through its normal clearance process when he submitted that article for publication. we should note, though, for the record the white house did distribute material attacking dr. fauci's credibility. we should also note navarro was scheduled to appear on cnn this afternoon, but the whoos i hite has cancelled that interview. you were first to report over the weekend that the administration had a calculated effort to distribute material discrediting, questioning the credibility of one of its own team members dr. act mnthony fa. the white house had not already gone on the record raising itself, right? >> yeah. we spoke to peter navarro on friday, as well, john, and he made the same points to me that
he made in the op ed in "usa today" and we quoted him being critical of dr. fauchy and when they responded to our request for comment distributed a number of times that dr. fauci had been wrong and their estimation on public health comments and they're backing away from us a little bit and saying that peter navarro, simply speak to peter navarro, and it's part of the broader battle and the president has questioned him on a number of occasions and the white house press shop, peter navarro, and it's hard to say that this is a rogue effort from peter navarro. and it's difficult to imagine that he would not have done this without thinking or knowing that the president was onboard with it. >> and we focus on dr. fauci and the president is the ceo of the operation and the coronavirus task force meets today and it's in private. the president hasn't talked to dr. redfield and dr. fauci in a long time and it's been two months and we're in the middle
of a pandemic, setting a record for a state count and the president came into the rose garden yesterday and he was supposed to talk about china. i just want to show the headline of a great analysis piece by our friend peter baker of "the new york times," trump turned it into a meandering monologue. the president spoke in the rose garden for 63 minutes and spent only six minutes answering questions from reporters. this is the president's operation and yet he seems to not want to confront the reality of the moment. >> it often seems like the president is having one conversation and the rest of the country is having a very different conversation. i would add to the list of examples that you just pointed on. he's traveling to atlanta today, home of the cdc and is not planning to make a stop there, as well. this underscores the disconnect where the president's head is and where public health officials are. as josh noted, what we saw from
peter navarro is not actually unique. we've seen everyone up to the president himself questioning dr. fauci. the reality that the president does have to come to grips here is that the rest of the country is having that other conversation. he can try to criticize fauci. he can try to talk about all manner of other issues, china, infrastructure and environmental regulations like what he is today, and much of the country is dealing with this pandemic in a very real way and it should expect to be able to hear from their president on this. >> it would be nice if they could trust what they heard from the president on this. senator mitch mcconnell and this is an interesting dynamic, republicans counting the days until the election and privately you start to hear them saying things. >> i think the straight talk here is that everyone needs to understand is this is not going away. that's the senate majority leader about the coronavirus. you might look at that and say okay, that's pretty obvious, but that's not what we hear from the president of the us. so when leaders of his own
party, if you just read that in a vacuum, that's not mitch mcconnell trying to say that's not him, but that's exactly what that is. >> mcconnell and senate republicans are a preeminent issue and how republican senators respond to it and what's happening in states whether the economy can come back and whether there's football in the fall and all of these things will factor into the election and whether the president wants to say that or not. the president's strategy has been to talk about coronavirus less, to talk about -- have fewer news conferences about it and to do less messaging on it, and a lot of other republicans know that regardless what the president does or doesn't do, voters will have this near the top of their mind when they cast a ballot in november. >> the president sometimes gets mad about this and gets obsessive about those things and one of the things front and center that has to aggravate and
that's a kind word by the president is this new book by his niece, mary trump, who is a clinical psychologist who documents behavior back to his childhood. she explains his relationship with his father. she's just beginning to do a media tour about this book. >> he's utterly incapable of leading this country, and it's dangerous to allow him to do so. >> based on what you see now or what you saw then? >> based on what i've seen my entire adult life. >> there have been other books about this, but this is a woman named trump, a family member. his niece. we're 100 days or so from the election. this has to get under his skin. >> certainly. this one cuts pretty personally because it's not just from somebody who can be dismissed as a disgruntled former adviser and it's from a family member and we do know that the president is pretty sensitive about a
conversation about his family. his relationship with his father. things that happened in his life before he became president of the united states, and we, of course, was there an effort to try to stop this book from being published and certainly the fact that mary trump will be out there very publicly at this moment where the president is already feeling defensive, where he's already feeling like the political wins have been moving against him less than four months from election day. i would say aggravation is as you said a pretty gentle way to describe how he's going to be feeling about this. >> we will watch as it plays out in a number of fronts, julie pace and josh, great to see you both. thank you. justice ruth bader ginsberg remains hospitalized with a possible infection. the supreme court justice underwent a procedure to clean out a bile stent she received last august following treatment for her pancreatic cancer. the justice resting comfortably and she'll stay in the hospital
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georgea's governor today working on capacity to create -- georgia another of the southern states to reopen early now experiencing a sharp rise in coronavirus cases. the impact is being seen beyond the hospital stress. the city of atlanta this week saying it will begin the school year with students at home. diane gallagher is live in atlanta. the governor talks about the hospital surge need and the capacity need on a day when some of the remaining coronavirus restrictions in georgia expire, right? >> reporter: that's right, john. some of those remaining restrictions include prohibitions on crowds of 50 and more gathering in public. restrictions on businesses,
restrictions on assisted living facilities and the community all of those set to expire at midnight tonight. the governor's office speaking with us today said that we should bes on the lookout for some kind of announcement that he can expand on a little bit later today. when we asked about this yesterday we would simply acknowledge the fact that the expiration was due to happen at midnight. he did tell cnn affiliate wsbtv when asked about the expiration of these restrictions that obviously, i don't think we'll be moving forward or opening up in any way, i think. look, when you look at the numbers in georgia, it makes complete sense. the mayor of atlanta keisha lance bottoms has recommended that her city go back to phase one of reopening and she issued a mask mandate, something that the governor said is unenforceable. john, he does show up in masks. he encourages georgians to wear masks and even went on a tour of this state seven different cities asking people to wear masks, but he has said that he
does not think at any point he will not issue a mandate forcing people to do so. >> dianne gallagher live in atlanta and we'll keep an eye on the numbers and we'll see how it plays out. atlanta public schools will begin the public school year online only for the first weeks and it is pushing back its start date. the atlanta board of education. sir, thank you so much for being with us. online for nine weeks, is that a hard line or is it online for nine weeks and then we'll see where this case count goes? >> good morning, john and thanks for having me. it's nine weeks and we'll see how it goes. we'll continue to monitor the situation on the ground here in atlanta, as you all just reported, we are in substantial spread in fulton county and the safety of our employees and our students is top of mind and we will make decisions that place them first and make sure that they are safe and that we can
reopen schools safely. >> this is the conversation everywhere, not just in fulton county and all across georgia and all across the country and all across economic perspectives and livelihoods in the sense. if you have a child, i have a rising fourth grader and she's dealing with this. in the atlanta constitution there is a piece today about a school board member saying she's received hundreds of questions from parents about the reopening plan and it's a struggle for working parents across the city. they don't feel capable of being there and teaching their kids. this is complicated, i know, and you wrestle with it every day. how do you help the working parents who can't be home and now their children are home for nine weeks at the start of the new year and they don't feel they can give the time and resources necessary? >> well, look, i am one of those working parents. my wife and i work full time and we have a kindergartner that's coming in to atlanta public schools this year and i feel for those parents and no decision that we could have made at this
point would have satisfied everyone, but what the district is doing is that we are working with our community, working with partners to provide our family with resources and not only that, but the superintendent dr. lisa herring recommended that we push back the start date to august 31st and the board approved that recommendation on first read on monday, and that's going to allow our teachers time to plan and to develop professionally in anticipation of a virtual start, but it's also going to allow the school district to focus on the students and families. assess them and provide them with resources and train parents on virtual learning and john, one of the critical things that we'll be providing for our students during that time are the basic resources that we know that they rely on schools for, like food. our food program starts on august 10th even though school doesn't start on august 24th. >> schools are a local decision. you're making a decision for atlanta and you have others
making decisions in their communities and this is a national conversation and the government his more resources financially and more access to the data and i want you to listen to the top scientists and they sound different when they talk about the issue of schools. >> and we have to get the schools open and we have to get everything open and they have to do that for political reasons and not for other reasons. >> we should try as a default to get the kids to stay in school. let's all work together and find out how we can. on the ground to get these schools open. >> are you getting help? the cdc is right there in your hometown. are you getting help whether it's scientific data and whether it's other research or guidelines for safety in the schools and the education department about how to improve the remote learning. are you getting anything from washington or do you feel you're on your own? >> well, look, at the end of the
day, every school district is different. every city is experiencing the impacts of covid-19 differently and each local school system should make a decision that's best for their constituents and in atlanta, we are in substantial spread. if it was a situation where we were low the decision from the superintendent would have been different, but at the end of the day, the governor in georgia has supported local distancing and they have to put the importance of the students, the teachers and the families first and that's what we're doing in atlanta. of the many countless coronavirus challenges you are dealing with one of the most important, our children. jason estevez, we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. the cdc director offers a
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take the blame away from reopenings from the spike we see in coronavirus cases across the south. the cdc director instead trying to shift the blame from northerners. here's dr. robert redfield. >> if you look at the south, everything happened around june 12th to june 16th. it all simultaneously kind of popped. so independent of whether you reopened, didn't reopen and when you reopen, so we're of the view that there was something else that was the driver. maybe the memorial day -- not week end, but memorial day week where northlanders decided to go south for vacations. >> the director of the harvard health institute. good to see you, my friend. >> you had a very animated twitter thread after watching the cdc director about this because god forbid, you actually rely on data and context.
i want to put up on the screen the south versus the south trend line. dr. redfield is right and there's been and we've been showing every day a spike in cases across the south. his point is aha, look at late june when it really starts to jump. no, sir, it doesn't work that way. go to the left, june 8th and it starts to go up right around memorial day and immediately after and it doesn't percolate that quickly. this was already under way, correct? >> that's right, john. thanks for having me on. i was surprised to see the cdc director say that and i went back to look at the data because i thought maybe i'd missed something and the data is very clear that state his opened up not all of them, but most of them started seeing increases by about june 1st and not just the south, but also in places like idaho and alaska and oregon and
northern vacationers were not seeding cases and that's not consistent with the data or the facts. >> i want to show those states, lack alaska and oregon to those people who say we're trying to cause trouble with the trump administration. i don't think people in new york are going to vacation in alaska, oregon and idaho these days. some might have been, but you see the jumps there as it goes up. the bigger question here is why? why? we're in the middle of this pandemic and we talk frequently of the president saying we only have more cases because we're testing. i don't want to get into that conversation because it's ridiculous. we have the 50-state map using the johns hopkins data and on memorial day we have a much better situation. that's the orange and the red and that's the wrong direction. 13 were holding steady and 20 were going down. a lot of us thought maybe we're starting to come down the hill here. here's where we are today. 38 states heading up.
nine down, three steady. i'm a lay person. you have helped me immensely in the last few months. i don't need a science background to know that's bad. your point, the reason you got mad about this is your points is we need answers, solutions and fixes, not distractions and scapegoating? >> yeah. you know, i think -- i don't know, what motivated dr. redfield to say that. he's a pretty smart guy and he has access to the same data i have and probably more robust data and i don't know why he's misinterpreting the data the way he is. one worries that because dr. fauci the day before had said what is is true, if states open up not just too early, but aggressive low as a way to contradict that, and i don't know, and i shouldn't speculate. at the end of the day, we still are early in this pandemic and we have a long way to go, and if we distract ourselves with stories like northern vacationers are going to arizona
in june and setting off large outbreaks, we're not going to get through this very well. we have to get through the facts and we have to do good analysis and we have to act on that and i am frustrated by the distractions. >> in the middle of this, kevin stint has tested positive for coronavirus and the contact tracing with the trump rally. why the cdc director would do this and this is the point you're trying to make. northern vacationers are not the cause of managing outbreaks and we have to do better about managing the pandemic and drawing wrong lessons to that goal. we've had the conversation about inconsistent messages, mixed messages, contradictory messages sometimes from the president far away from the science as you can get. why? i know you don't want to read mind, but you mentioned dr. fauchy and you assumed dr.
redfield knowing the cdc is being sidelined at the moment is trying to carry favor? >> it's hard for me to speculate what's motivating people. it's one day, all americans can say politicians say what they say, but the scientists? the head of the cdc? we want him to be fact based and we need for him to be fact based and that to me is what really upset me about this is i hear all sorts of crazy stuff from politicians and i largely try to ignore them, but when i hear it from fellow skientsists and public health leaders it really does upset me because it makes it harder for us to control the virus and the consequence, john, is that hundreds of thousands of people are dying in america today because we are distracted by issues that are not the central ones to controlling this virus. we've got to get our act together and we need dr. redfield to be a part of that solution. >> i recommend people go to your twitter feed and give it a look.
whether you agree or disagree, it's a good read. it makes you study and do your homework and it makes you follow the actual numbers and i appreciate you giving us your insights. >> thank you. >> the pentagon charts a different course of action on the question of race and sensitivity. at university of phoenix, we know you're always there for them. that's why our advisors are always here for you. learn more at phoenix.edu. with one protein feels like. what getting fueled with three energy packed proteins feels like. meat! cheese! and nuts! p3. because 3 is better than 1
flag. >> you understand why the flag is a painful symbol for many people because it's a reminder of slavery? >> people love it and i don't -- i know people that like the confederate flag and they're not thinking about slavery. look at nascar. those flags all over the place. they stopped it. i just think it's freedom of speech. whether confederate flags, black lives matter, whatever you want to talk about. it's freedom of speech. >> leadership thinks much differently. barbara starr, what's happening? >> reporter: this week defense secretary mark esper is expected to issue a new policy aimed at barring racially, culturally sdw divisive symbols. the big question, will he mention the confederate flag, very well aware what the president thinks or set a broad policy and allow his senior commanders to implement it? either way, top commanders are
already well down the road of banning the confederate flag in public spaces on military installations. we have now already seen the commandant of the marine corps do it. head of korean forces, extremely respected four-star generals and head of u.s. forces in japan also issued a memo banning the confederate flag on u.s. military installations in japan. lieutenant general kevin snyder, i want to read a bit of the memo he put out similar to what other commanders have done. he talks about the fact many may see it as a cultural symbol. he's aware of that and goes on and says many others in our force foresee it and a painful reminder of hate, bigotry and devaluation of humidity it represent humility. why is it so difficult to take this fight on knowing the
president doesn't want to? it is all about cohesiveness of a fighting force. what they know is if there are symbols of divisiveness inside a unit and that unit has to go into battle, they can't win if they've got divisions within their own unit. they have to have a fighting force that is cohesive and moves ahead. they now see the confederate flag as a major indicator that that may be a real problem. we know that the heads of the other military services, head of the air force, army, and the other services are also waiting to put out similar memos banning the flag. they are waiting to see what the defense secretary does. waiting to see if he actually takes on the president and will the president take on the joint chiefs and his top commanders over this issue? john? >> wording will matter. specificity. we'll circle back as we learn
the cdc recommends now you wear a mask. guess what? u.s. retailers making wearing a mask mandatory. walmart, starbucks and best buy saying if you want to shop, wear a mask. the new rule coming out over this week. costco instituted a mask policy in may. meanwhile, it's tax day. supposed to be in april. deadline is today. second quarter earnings also under way. christine romans reporting on the fallout the coronavirus impact is having on the economy. >> reporter: john, task day is here in july. taxpayers granted a three-month extension. not ready to file? individual taxpayers who need more time, request an automatic extension instead to file by october 15th. taxpayers have until midnight tonight to file for that extension. in a way, that tax filing reflects a completely different world. before coronavirus, jobless rate lowest in half a century and
economy strong. since then almost 50 million people filed for the first time for jobless benefits. bankruptcies rising, economy crashed. that crash evidenced in second quarter earnings for corporate america. banks set aside billions to prepare for possibility of loans going bust with consumers and companies and bank executives warring greater pain ahead. against that backdrop of main street pain, though, you have wall street flying high riding a wave of record stimulus from congress and the fed. booming markets meant a strong second quarter for goldman sachs. second best quarterly revenue in history, and record investment banking results. still, goldman sachs ceo david solomon acknowledged a challenging environment saying the economic outlook remains uncertain. big week for corporate profits continues this week with bank of america, charles schwab, johnson & johnson and netflix. >> thanks for that update. don't forget, latest stock market news and strategy for
portfolio check out markets now streaming only on cnn business. top of the hour. welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. familiar pattern today. dire warnings another daily case count record and the president telling you listen to him not the scientific experts. look at numbers. they are troubling, period. another 60,000-plus new confirmed coronavirus cases now running the american total to 3 million 431,000 infections and counting. the death numbers president says is low is again starting to rise. florida reporting single rate high for deaths yesterday as did alabama, utah and oregon. 14 reporting risen hospitalizations, sadly sends up the death count even more. reminder today. the virus does not care who you are. oklahoma's republican