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years. her husband says elizabeth devoted her entire heart and soul to her family. george pasas of new york was 93. he was recognized for his leadership in the greek american community. may they rest in peace and may their memories being a blessing. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. ♪ outfront next, the u.s. on track to break another record in new coronavirus cases as the president holds a campaign-style event at the white house. republican governor of maryland with a scathing review of the president. mask wars getting earlier, forcing the meeting to come to an end. we're going to talk to the county commissioner who was at the helm. and experts calling for volunteers to be infected with the coronavirus on purpose to speed up vaccine trials. one of the scientists spearheading that effort is
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outfront. let's go outfront. good evening, i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, the breaking news, the u.s. on track to break another single day record in coronavirus cases across the country as the death toll sets one day records in texas and florida. 138,000 americans have now died from the virus. and as we speak, 39 states are seeing increase in the number of cases. these new records have dr. anthony fauci speaking out today, calling this a serious situation that needs to be addressed. yet what did we hear from the president today? another campaign-style speech on the south lawn repeatedly slamming obama and biden. he didn't mention any plan to stop the virus. and in fact, this is the thing, when it comes to the virus, trump likes to make big statements and leave out any detail on how to get anything done. take, for example, reopening schools. >> schools should be opened. kids want to go to school. >> children and parents are dying from that trauma too.
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they're dying because they can't do what they're doing. >> so, americans are dying because schools are closed, and trump wants them open. what is he doing to make it happen? >> i would strongly say they should open. it's up to the governors. it's the governor's choice. >> trump passing the buck just like he has on testing. for months, the president has been patting himself on the back for testing congratulating himself for a job well done on testing. >> we have the best and certainly the biggest, by far the biggest testing program anywhere in the world. >> our testing is far superior to anybody's. >> we have great testing, the best in the world. >> the best testing in the world. of course the only problem is that it is not. the facts don't add up on that as we all know at this point. we don't test enough people, people are waiting in lines, people are waiting over a week for results rendering them useless. listen to both republican and
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democratic governor. >> we understand there's a need for faster results. they are backed up. >> this is ha challenge. we need additional help from the federal government. >> they need help from the federal government. that means help from president trump, but he is not offer anything help on testing. >> don't take responsibility at all. governors are supposed to be doing a lot of this work. >> doesn't take responsibility at all for any failures, passing the buck. even when it comes to masks, 40,000 lives could be saved by november if the u.s. had a mask mandate according to one model. on this, the president likes to say big things. >> i think it's a great thing to wear a mask. i've never been against masks. >> that is not true. he has said masks are not for him. he has mocked others repeatedly for wearing a mask, even joe biden. his actions speak loudly on this, he himself has only been seen once in public wearing one,
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saying he wouldn't give the press the pleasure. even yesterday when he arrived in atlanta where they have a mandate on masks, he did not wear one. just today cvs, the pharmacy chain and target are now requiring customers to wear masks coast to coast. we should not be in this position where retailers like target and walmart are making decisions on public health while the president of the united states says it's up to governors. i take no responsibility. the man in charge has not stepped up. just listen to the republican governor of maryland in a scathing editorial today writing it was clear waiting for the president's response was hopeless. if we wait any longer we would be condemning more citizens to death. governor larry hogan will be my guest. to those who think this is a call for big government, it is
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not. it is a call for leadership from the person at the top in a war, right? when the states look to the federal government, that's what it's for is for things like wars because america is at war, something president trump has said himself. >> a war against the virus. in the war against the virus. in our all-out war against the virus. >> is the united states losing the war on the virus. >> no, we're winning the war. we have areas that flame up and they're going to be fine. >> all out government would have a plan to open schools or help with testing or tell people to wear masks. the truth is winning the war is not defined by tens and tens and tens and thousands of needless deaths. our curve would not look like the line on the top. it would look like the lines on the bottom. kaitlan yet again today the president's focus when he did
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speak, it was campaign steil, n not on the pandemic. >> reporter: he barely mentioned it. instead had the vice president do most of the talking about the coronavirus. of course he is the head of the task force, but it does send a message when the president doesn't talk about it, doesn't tweet about it, doesn't seem to be focusing on it whchlt the white house was asked where is his level of focus, they insisted he is talking about it but he's also dealing with several other topics as well. they say he's dpok more focused on it next week though they didn't go into detail about what that means because if you look at his schedule this week there were no events that were on the public schedule dedicated to coronavirus which is notable when you saw the record cases, emerging hotspots and what is going forward. this is a president who very often shows where his priorities are whether they're his own tweets or thoughts he gives in several interviews this week. it's not just that but i think there are questions being raised about the relationship with dr.
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anthony fauci who we should note we did report today that the two of them have finally spoken after last week dr. fauci told "the financial times" he had not spoken to the president or been briefed since june 2nd. now they are talking. another question is about the data. the hospitals send coronavirus data to the washington so it can go into a national database. instead of going to the cdc, there are questions about whether or not it would be politicized. some data did disappear this week but they said hhs has told them to put it back up. >> of course real questions. i know "the new york times" has reported the data kaitlan is talked about would not even be public in the way the cdc has put it out there. i want to go to the maryland governor larry hogan, author of the new book "still standing:
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surviving cancer riots and the dividing america." i appreciate your time. i read moments ago from your op-ed today an excerpt from your book, your recollection of the early days of the pandemic. it's a powerful op-ed. you said waiting around for the president to run the nation's response was hopeless. how bad has this leadership been? >> well, just keep in mind, erin, that this was an excerpt from a book that was talking about the early stages of the response, so the past is part of 300 and something page book that appeared in the "post" today. i was talking about in the first few months when mistakes were made. they have gotten more done. the rest of the team has been working harder to fix some of these problems. but i was just talking about it in the early stages when there was no national testing strategy, when there was no cohesive message, when the president -- all the public health experts in the federal
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government and the team that were advising the president were all on top of things and were providing the information and had things that could have gotten done. but the president seemed to not be taking it seriously and his message kept changing. and the frustrating thing was that governors were out there scrambling around trying to figure out how to solve this crisis when we did need more leadership on a number of these major issues. so, it wasn't just all pointed criticism. i've given them credit and thanked them when they have stepped up and gotten things done. but there certainly were failure. there's no question about that. >> there certainly were. even now in schools. i'm originally from your state. i'm now in new york. real national leadership could mean a lot here. you took matters into your own hands during testing. you went to your wife's home country in south korea where they were so excellent at testing. we still have massive testing problems across the country.
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even here in new york you can wait seven days to get results from a test so it's been a worthless result e seine lsssen. do you think the president has learned anything from his early mistakes? >> well, i'm not sure. i haven't talked to the president about whether he feels like he learned anything or no. i can say that on some things the federal government's response has improved. on testing, we're still now back where we started. we have advances in testing and states got things under control on their own with some help from the federal government with things like assistance from swabs and reagents and transport mediums and things. we were outcompeting each other. it was mass chaos in a constrained market when we desperately needed this help. we then kind of caught up. but with the flare ups in some of these states all across the country where the numbers are skyrocketing, we're now running into testing shortages once again. and we're running into -- as you pointed out, you said new york
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is a seven-day wait, there are states with ten days to two weeks on testing results. we're not in that position here in maryland because we built our own lab and acquired our own tests from south korea. and we're turning those around in 24 to 48 hours. but many of the private labs are overwhelmed with tests from florida and exttexas and arizon and california and places like that and it's slowing down the whole country's ability to test the virus. >> you've referenced something you said earlier. your aware of the white house's criticism of you today. the press secretary was asked about your op sa-ed. >> this is revisionist history by governor hogan. what's striking to me about reading that op-ed is he begins with this dramatic april 18th scene where south korea delivered tests, but just the day prior he said something entirely different. he, in fact, thanked the president for the progress we've
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seen in federal and state coronation in recent weeks. >> so, we kind of looked to see what she was talking about. this was you on april 17th, governor hogan. >> i thank the president for the progress that we have seen on the federal and state coordination issues in recent weeks with regard to some of the top needs of the states, including ventilators, testing capabilities and the availability of ppe and supplies. >> so, what is your response, sir? >> well, so, i have, from the very beginning of this, been very up front and straightforward. i'm not one of these folks -- and you know because i've been on your network and on your show talking about this. when i think progress has been made, i give them credit. i have praised them repeatedly for the outreach and the communication that they've had with the governors. i've led all those governors' calls.
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i've praised the vice president, the coronavirus task force. i've pushed back and said they have gotten this done. we worked with them to get the ventilators produced and utilize the defense production act. as i said yesterday and the day before i said good things. i thanked them because they were finally getting up to speed on swabs and on getting supplies, on ppe out to the states. but that was not to say that we have test kits available for all the people in the state. you could take a piece of a conversation. this is a 300-some page book that they took an excerpt out. i tell you i've always been up front when the president and his team are doing something right, a praise them, and when they're doing something wrong i'm not afraid to say something. >> in a new poll, voter wrs asked if they trust the information president trump is providing about coronavirus. 67% of voters do not. that breaks down in a stunning
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way. 52% of rural voters do not trust him. 55% of whites without a college degree do not trust him. the president has tweeted his poll numbers are rising fast. it's not true from these polls we're looking at. when you look at these numbers, governor hogan, do you think the president is going to win a second term? >> well, that's -- it's going to be a really tough road, i tell you that. i have talked about this skpi talk about it in my book and i've talked about it repeatedly. one of the things that most concerns me is that people do not trust what the president's telling them and these are mistakes of his own making. for example, anthony fauci and some of the public health experts in the administration who are working hard who i have been praising and thanking for their efforts who have been telling it straight and giving us the facts, when they come on tv people listen and they follow that advice. the president will come on either later that same day or
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the next day and say the opposite of what they said. so, it's one of my concerns. it's not so much about the entire administration failing. it's about the president who bounces from one message to the other and sometimes says the exact opposite of what the experts in his administration say. and i think that at a time of a crisis like this, one of the most important things you can possibly do is communicate honestly and directly with the people to tell them the facts. and i think people are confused as to what the message is and what the facts really are. >> governor, quickly, do you have any idea why he does that? why he says the opposite? why he doesn't wear a mask? why? >> i really can't get into his mind, but i think he ought to focus on the crisis, listen to the experts, and communicate as directly and honestly as he can, stop worrying so much about the campaign and what he says on twitter because i think it's not helpful to the entire effort to fight the virus and we've all got to work together at the federal state and local level to
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beat this thing. >> governor, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. all right. next senator rand paul, a medical doctor weighing in on scientists who advocate for a vaccine. >> these people believe in the idea that they are so right and their cause is so righteous they can inflict it on others. >> plus morgues running out of the room. it's not new york in april. it's now texas tonight. the call to get a vaccine more quickly is gaining stream. i'm going to talk to one doctor spearheading this unprecedented effort. what getting fueled with three energy packed proteins feels like. meat! cheese! and nuts! p3. because 3 is better than 1 no no no no no, there's no space there! maybe over here? meathot! hot! and nuts! oven mitts! oven mitts! everything's stuck in the drawers!
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new tonight, too little too late. cdc revealing that the travel bans president trump repeatedly claims were effective in slowing down the spread of coronavirus were not effective at all. >> this country is very lucky and i'm very lucky that i put the ban on china as you know, very early on. we acted very early. we acted extremely early in keeping china out of our country. my administration acted very early to ban travel from china, from europe, saving all of these lives. incredible. >> okay. the facts, look at the calendar. the china ban, february 2nd, was the effective date, march 13th for europe.
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this is the cdc found that a full week before the europe ban went into effect the virus was out and about, fully circulating in the new york city which remains the earliest and hardest hit city in the country. and the virus likely came from europe and not china. and the european travel ban hadn't even started. outfront now dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner. sanjay, you have to go through calendar here. it looks like the china ban didn't make a difference in the u.s. the virus was circulating before the european ban took effect. >> and then we lost a month because all this stuff was happening and we didn't act. and there was plenty of evidence at that point, especially based on the evidence coming out of china. we didn't do anything about it. we stint start testing. we didn't start thinking about lockdowns, proposals for lockdowns in certain areas were made in february but largely
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ignored by the white house. so, i think it was that month. we go back and look at this, erin, you know, most of february, a little bit of march, where we just lost that time. it wasn't until the middle of march where they finally started to talk about stay-at-home orders in ernst in some ways. so, lack of testing, lack of action for those four or five weeks were important. >> and still paying the price here as 138,000 deaths and climbing, a number which seemed incomprehensible at that time. today when we look at the future vaccine, republican senator rand paul, a medical doctor who also had coronavirus, talked about a possible vaccine today. here's what he said. >> i'm pro-vaccine and i'm also pro-freedom. a lot of people will make a choice and they'll get it and we'll study that over six month, a year, two years. there's millions of us like me who are immune. are they going to hold me down
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and stick a needle in my arm? they probably will because these people believe in the idea that they are so right and their cause is so righteous they can inflict it on others. >> just to be clear, we have no idea if he's immune. he may no longer have antibodies to it. we have several studies now indicates it may mean noing. i don't know what he's talking about with that. what does this say to you a medical doctor senator saying i'm pro-vaccine but pro-freedom as if those two things are in conflict. >> i'll remind you senator paul went for a swim in the senate pool while he was waiting for his covid-19 results to come back. so, i think he has a unique perspective on personal freedom and not so much of a regard for how that affects others. we've been talking about with great anticipation, the arrival of one or more vaccines by the end of the year. but we're going to have to face the facts that this country is riddled with a very, very active
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anti-vax group. senator paul has actually belonged to a if i cigs group, a fringe physicians group, called the association of american physicians and surgeons, small group that has a long history of anti-vax activity. as we move closer to a vaccine, we're going to have to try to convince as many people in this country to accept the vaccine so we can have full herd immunity. i'll remind you that during our best influence season, we only vaccinated about 60% of american population. and when i see patients in clinic, every single week i talk to patients about vaccines. and there's a lot of distrust. so, hearing a united states senator, a physician at that, doubt the importance of vaccines is incredibly troubling and really dangerous. >> you me, sanjay, it always makes me think, i don't understand the antivax thing and how do you break through because it is such an emotional thing
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for people. it's not rooted in reality at all. you think about the children paralyzed for polio and the lines that lined up to get that vaccine because vaccine save lives. it's why they're there. what do you say to the fact there's a medical doctor, an elected senator who would say what senator paul said. >> the first of these people, i guess jonathan, you and i are "these people" to senator paul. he's had a long history of this. when he was running for president, i remember him bringing up the various issues that jonathan's talking about, sort of dancing around this idea that vaccines can cause autism. he knows -- i think that's the thing you're driving at, erin, is that he knows the truth i would presume, right? there's studies. we're not making this up. there's huge metaanalyses where you look attal mani millions ofo
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have received vaccines compared to kid who is have not received vaccines and oyou don't see increased autism or the deleterious effects he's talking about. there's safety data already accrued which will make us pay attention. but this is a problem. a third of the country right now says that they would have vaccine hesitancy when it comes to this coronavirus. jonathan just mentioned we need to get to 70% roughly to get to herd immunity. we could have a vaccine. if people aren't taking it, we may still not get to that herd immunity. >> thank you very much. sanjay is going to be back in a few minutes for our global coronavirus town hall starting at 8:00 eastern. next, anger erupting at a utah commission meeting over masks. >> we are supposed to be physically distancing, wearing masks -- >> i'm going to speak to commissioner chairing that meeting. plus more than 100 scientists and experts are calling for
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breaking news, texas reporting a record number of deaths and a third straight day of more than 10,000 new cases. the hardest hit cases in that state relying on refrigerating trucks as morgues reach capacity. nick watt is outfront. >> this is texas now, six months into this pandemic, refrigerated trailers deployed to store the dead in dallas, san antonio, and down near the border, morgues are filling up. >> i'm pleading with everybody here in our neck of the woods, our community. i need everybody to help us and do their part. >> reporter: and in corpus christi. >> we were doing fantastic at the end of may. we have just absolutely skyrocketed after memorial day. >> reporter: mid-may, the county was logging maybe a handful of new cases every day. yesterday, more than 1,000. similar situation over in miami where hospitals are now at 95% capacity.
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>> we're at the highest level of ventilators that we've seen through this pandemic. >> reporter: 39 states are heading in the wrong direction with average case counts rising. today target, cvs, and publics joined the growing list of retailers that will require masks in stores. arkansas just reversed course requiring masks in public. mask mandates in at least 39 states, but not georgia, where the governor just banned local municipalities from making them mandatory. he's suing atlanta's mayor whose order in place. >> i was furious. i was lot for words. it made no sense to me at a time when corporate giants are mandating masks, where the state of alabama is mandates masks, where the state of florida 120 miles south of us is the hot spot of the nation -- >> the fact we are arguing about masking, i don't understand that
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in the middle of a pandemic. >> reporter: this meeting got into masks and schools and abruptly ended. >> we are supposed to be physically distancing, wearing masks -- >> reporter: the president kind of agrees with those boos. >> we're going to be putting a lot of pressure on open your schools in the fall. >> reporter: not one of the 20 largest districts in the country has committed to in-person teaching. but the say it of florida says its ready even has miami's mayor pleads for federal guidance. >> there was guidance in terms of reopening, in terms of the gating criteria. there wasn't criteria on what happens if there's a second spike. how do you go backwards? what are the metrics? so we're struggling. >> reporter: and the mayor of atlanta, keisha lance bottoms has reacted to being sued. she herself has tested positive. she tweeted 3,104 georgiaens
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have died. meanwhile, i have been sued for a mask mandate. a better use of max payer money would be to expand tracing and contact tracing. six months into this pandemic we are still arguing about masks. >> all right. nick, thank you. nick just mentioned that fiery meeting in utah on mask mandates in schools. here's more on what happened. >> this is the exact opposite of what we need to be doing. we are supposed to be physically distancing, wearing masks. we have a motion and a second to continue this meeting to a second date. all in favor a aye. okay. the meeting the adjourned. >> outfront now, the chairman of the utah county commission. you just saw him there chairing that meeting. so, tanner, obviously right before you start speaking there, you look at that room and you kind of cringe just because my kids would say, mommy, that was
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before coronavirus, right? well, no, obviously, they wanted to make a point. it was a regularly scheduled meeting. mask policy itself was a last-minute add to the agenda. when did it become clear to you that you had to shut it down, that it had just become too ugly and rank rouse? >> really right when i walked in the meeting and i saw this group that had come from a rally that was organized by one of the other commissioners, it became clear this wasn't going to be safe. it wasn't going to work. >> so, after you ended the meeting, i know protesters went up to the podium one by one for more than two hours to air their grievances, one of the moms grabbed a face mask and spit her gum out into it. it's garbage, she said, wadding it up. it doesn't work anyway, not for me and not for my kids. what else happened and why do you think this is causing such emotional responses? >> well, erin, i can't come on
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your show and let this be the introduction to the county of utah down tip. i wish what would have gone viral was what would have happened two weeks ago when we had two fires and thousands of our citizens were evacuated and i went to the command center and the red skpros they pulled me aside and they said we need your help getting the word out. i said, what it? do we need supplies? they said no, we need you to tell people to stop donating. people in the first night donated more food and water than they could handle. we have two major universities here. we have a thriving economy. >> i've been to your town. i know what you're talking about. i want to be clear, what you're seeing in terms of that ugly meeting is happening nay lot of other places across this country that would say it doesn't define them. so i understand what you're saying. but i'm just trying to get from
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you why you think it is causing such emotion? >> well, i think i really want to look at the political leaders. that's at least who i know and who i can hold accountable. my approach in this, when i see a political leader, i don't care if they're democrat or republican, if they're following common sense and following medical research, i'm slow to criticize and quick to follow. we need to come together and solve these problems. but some -- and we had one on our commission who they see these as opportunities to pit even more of us against each other. and so there was a group -- so, he really called for this rally, and i think he really pulled that group that had some frustration into this room and really fanned the flames of a fire that shouldn't have been burning in the first place because this wasn't an issue our commission should have been addressing. >> so, anti-mask protesters said it's an act of submission to wear a mask. jesus give us a choice, and mandates are against freedom. what do you say to get them to
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change their mind? >> well, again, this is a vast minority. i think that most of our residents, the overwhelming majority are following. we need to do better. so far we've done pretty well. we've been open and functioning, but we've also had low utilization of our icu beds in our hospitals. but like other western states that you've been profiling, we are seeing that post-memorial day surge. so, our governor has been out there trying to mask up. i think for the most part it's working. this was 100 people out of our 650,000 in our county that were at this meeting the other day. >> i appreciate your time. thank you so much tanner. >> good to be with you. next there is a growing call for healthy volunteers to be exposed to the coronavirus to see whether a vaccine will work. it's not how vaccine testing is done though. it's a big deal, right? infecting someone with something to which there's no leading that charge is outfront. the pandemic forcing more and more business owners to make gut
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tonight, more than 100 scientists, nobel laureates, scientists, and experts are calling for volunteers to be deliberately exposed to coronavirus to speed up vaccine development. this is risky and it's known as human challenge trials because you literally challenge the human body with the disease to see if the vaccine works. that's how the name comes about. the group is urging the u.s. government to move ahead with the trials as soon as possible. outfront now one of the scientists spearheading this effort, professor of epidemiology. professor, it's great to have you back with me. i explained the human challenge trial. they have been done before. smallpox, yellow fever, malaria. it's not an unprecedented thing.
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but it is -- it causes a lot of people to immediately say this is really risky, you're infecting someone on purpose with a virus that does not have a cure or a sure thing as a treatment. it's already killed more than 138,000 americans and half a million people worldwide. so, why do you think a human challenge trial is worth the risk right now? >> erin, it's important to realize that yesterday more than 5,000 people around the world died of confirmed covid, probably a lot more than that. the day before that, 5,000, the day before that, 5,000. the toll that this virus is taking on the world is incredible, and it's not just how many people died but it's the disruption to our lives, it's the disruption to our social fabric as your previous segment showed. this is a global challenge that we need to have every possible tool to fight.
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we have not called for an immediate start to human challenge trials. what we've called for is to immediately start planning for the possibility and setting up the -- what would be needed in terms of plans, protocols, growing the virus, getting facilities ready so that we can have this as one possible tool to speed up the arrival of a vaccine. >> right. >> this is the best hope we have. >> so, basically i know there are trials going on, right, in brazil right now and other places. and if those trials do not yield the perfect vaccine that's going to work everywhere, you're saying that is when you would need to do this because it's going to be the only way. >> it may be the only way. i mean, we are not -- we are not calling for this to happen immediately because we want a fast answer about an effective vaccine. we do not want to do human challenge trials for the sake of it. we want to have every possible tool. and as you say, it is possible that the trials that are going on right now will not yield a
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clear result because there may not be enough cases or that they will yield a clear result and that the vaccines will be okay or not great or not as good as we'd like. and we're going to continue to need to test vaccines for some period of time. and hopefully we will get the virus under control before we have all the vaccine. >> so, in a challenge trial, you know, you -- if a vaccine doesn't work, right, somebody could die. right? that's the definition of the thing, right? someone could get the virus and someone could die. the nih vaccine working group wrote in the "new england journal of medicine" they say currently we lack sufficient knowledge of coronavirus pathogenesis to inform inclusion and exclusion criteria for a challenge trial. a single death or severe illness in an otherwise healthy volunteer would be unconscionable and would halt progress. how do you get over the moral
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hurdle here because in any situation, that possibility would exist. >> i think there's a grain of truth in what's said there in that we do not know all the answers. we cannot tell someone there's a 0.01% chance or some precise number that anything bad will happen to you or even a precise number for their risk of dying. what we can do is we can give them -- we can select volunteer who is first are at the lowest possible risk because of their age and health conditions, lack of other health conditions, and we can have a serious discussion with potential volunteers. 30,000 plus people have said they would like to do this. of those, when they understand what they're offering to do, some will say, no, i didn't realize, and those people will not be in the challenge trial. so, it's important to minimize the risk and to maximize the understanding. but it's also important to realize that every time we do a medical experiment and every
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time someone decides to climb mout. everest or to joint the military or to join the police force, they are taking a risk that they cannot be promised exactly what it is. that is human life. >> that's an interesting point. i appreciate your time as always. >> thank you. next of all businesses crushed by coronavirus, a record number now closes down and more saying they won't hang on much longer. well the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and they've turned around who'd have thought they'd lead ya back here where we need ya welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you.
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tonight another 1.3 million americans filing for first time unemployment benefits. this brings the total to more than 51 million claims since the pandemic began in mid-march. phil mattingly is out front. >> manasha left her corporate job to launch mason -- she couldn't have dreamed how big of a hit it was going to be. >> we had lines all the way down to the costco. it was like as if that opening day lasted a month and a half.
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>> a first generation american who grew up in public housing and worked a half dozen jobs just to get through college, the comfort food pop-up was the ultimate success story, and the accolades, permanent brick and mortar location and most importantly customer loyalty followed in spades. >> it was really important for us at the time to be part of a neighborhood and a community and not just downtown. >> then came the pandemic. >> the first week or two was basically no traffic. i think we were making $100 a day. so like it went to nothing. >> business never returned above 50% of its past sales leading to this gut wrenching decision. >> we couldn't sustain the business anymore. we shut it down. >> with abalasha writing the letter taped in the window of her restaurant, the letter no owner of a thriving business could ever imagine putting together. >> it was the last thing i wanted to do, and i avoided it at all costs. what do you say to your team members, what do you say to their families, right? what do you say to customers
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that feel like they've been there for you the whole time. >> small businesses are a central driver of u.s. economic activity with more than 30 million in the country representing nearly 50% of all u.s. jobs but as the crisis has continued unabated, thousands of brick and mortar small businesses have taken the same route, and closed their doors with nearly 66,000 businesses closing their doors for good since march 1st according to data from yelp, and some researchers pegging the total number at north of 100,000. even more are on the precipice with 23% and a recent survey saying they could only survive for no more than since months in current conditions. even some that received crucial federal paycheck loans are closing their doors altogether, like mason dixie biscuits. yet, in a sign of the very resiliency that ke defines what small business owners represent, a second business, a frozen biscuit business once driven by customer loyalty to the
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restaurant itself has taken off. >> never in a million years could we have planned that it was going to be as crazy as it was, the demand surge for us was upwards of 200% month oaf month. >> abalashi isn't closing the door to giving another restaurant another shot. >> there isn't a bone in my body that doesn't want to try this again. >> she strikes a chord, many facing this once in a century pandemic are clinging to each day. >> i can't say that you should feel like it's failure. it's really just closure on a chapter, but it forces you to think what's the next step? what's the next move? >> and it's stories like that from around the country that really underscore just how high the stakes are here on capitol hill where starting next week negotiations will kick off over the next stimulus proposal. now, democrats and republicans could not be further apart on where they currently stand, but the reality is with money getting sucked out of the economy, small businesses closing across the country, something needs to get done, and
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something needs to get done fast. >> all right, thank you very much, phil. and thanks very much for joining us, cnn's global town hall coronavirus, facts and fears with dr. sanjay gupta and anderson cooper starts right after this. are you still at risk for a heart attack or stroke?
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welcome, i'm anderson cooper in new york. >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta, coronavirus facts and fears. st it's been seen around the world on cnn international and streaming on >> the most difficult health moment this country has seen since the influenza pandemic. according to johns hopkins university, there were 66,273 new confirmed cases yesterday. exactly one month ago writing in "the wall street journal" that we were, quote, winning the fight against the invisible enemy, vice president pence boasted of an average daily case count of 20,000. now the daily count is more than triple that. >> and anderson, today in texas and arizona, they started bringing in