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failing to try to stop this. it's not the only case of the president's message apparently overriding what is best for public health. a federal health official tells cnn today his political appointees tried to change the wording in cdc reports to better line up with president trump's messaging on the pandemic. these changes were made in the morbidity and mortality weekly report. this is the cdc's primary publication for public health information and recommendations that has more than 190,000 subscribers, primarily those on the front lines fighting this crisis. doctors, medical staff, researchers. but check out the response from the trump appointee accused of pushing for changes in these reports. there's no denial, just conspiratorial accusations from michael caputo, a former member of the trump campaign. he says, quote, our intention is to make sure that evidence, science-based data drives policy through this pandemic, not
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ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of cdc. all of this happening after we learn that the president has known since early february just how deadly and contagious the virus is and yet has deliberately been downplaying it. as revealed in recorded conversations he had with journalist bob woodward. i'll turn now to boris sanchez who is in minden, nevada, ahead of this upcoming rally. boris, is the trump campaign doing anything to help reduce the risk of the virus spreading? >> reporter: well, ana, they responded to our request for comment about this event today with a statement that they have given us several times before, effectively saying they're taking attendees' temperatures at the door and providing them with masks but there are not very many people wearing masks at all. they are encouraged to wear them but it's clearly not being enforced. as far as social distancing goes, i think the pictures speak
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for themselves. notably this event was originally planned for the airport in reno and it actually had to be moved because officials at the reno airport felt that it was in contradiction with the mandate by the state of nevada, a ban on events of 50 people or more. the organizers here in douglas county did not feel that there was a risk to spread coronavirus. a county commissioner actually telling us they have only had eight cases in recent weeks and they are not afraid of coronavirus and that none of the commissioners on the county board objected to holding this event, so they're hosting it here. there's clearly no enforcement from the state either. from what we've seen inside the actual venue, there are seats that are separated not really 6 feet apart, but they are scattered. the campaign taking some measure of prevention, but clearly this is not abiding by the cdc guidelines, ana. >> clearly people don't seem to
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be worried behind you there. switching to the altered cdc reports that we reported at the top, i heard from michael caputo, but what is his boss saying about these claims? >> alex azar is effectively defending this practice. he didn't really negate that it was happening but effectively said that president trump has been pushing forward an agenda that is based on science. he says, quote, the president has always been receptive to the data and science presented by me and other members of the task force. president trump's science-based decision-making has saved lives. of course we should point out there was reporting earlier that the president was frustrated some of the messaging coming from azar and other officials at the cdr and hhs was contradictory and painted a much grimmer picture than the one he wanted painted on coronavirus. you can go back to that visit that the president had to the
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cdc in atlanta the beginning of march where he said every american that wanted a test can get one. that is still not the case today in september, ana. >> boris sanchez, thank you, sir. joining us now, political columnist for the bulwark, amanda carpenter. she's also author of "gaslighting." also former clinton white house advisor paul begala author of "you're fired, the perfect guide to beating donald trump." you guys both make me look like i am so lazy with all of the work that you have been doing in all these different areas, but i'm grateful to have your voices here on this show to offer some perspective. let's just take another look at those long lines of supporters for a moment waiting to hear from the president. we learned this week president trump has been downplaying the virus, that now hhs officials have been trying to alter cdc reports to align with the president's messaging.
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we learned of this new model that says 415,000 americans could die from coronavirus by january. and yet, paul, none of that seems to be impacting their support for the president. >> no. this is really the tragedy of the consequences of mr. trump's lies. a lot of americans, a lot of good americans, rely on him, and they believe him. okay, i don't, i'm a democrat, i don't like him, plablah, blah, blah. but there's a lot of really good people who are going to get sick and die because the president is dying to them. it has enormous consequences. it's heart breaking. it's really the worst thing a president can do is to endanger the lives of his fellow americans knowingly. we know from mr. woodward's book, from the tapes that have been released, that the purpo president is purposefully lying to us and the supporters who believe him. it's outrageous. i'm glad boris is there covering that rally.
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i wish i could say i want you alive for election day to go vote for trump. please put a mask on, socially distance. >> do you really think they would be receptive to you saying that to them? >> no, that's the problem. that's why it's the president that has to say this. in a crisis, the word of the president is the most important thing on earth. for this president to have so debased reality in the eyes of his supporters, it's just heart breaking. we're smaller than the european union in terms of population, and we have many multiples more deaths. it's not because europeans are smarter, it's because they have leaders that don't lie to them. that's the heartbreak and the crisis of this coronavirus. >> amanda, i want to drill down on this new reporting that trump appointed communications officials at the department of health and human services have pushed to change the language in the cdc's weekly coronavirus reports so that it lines up with the president's message. you combine that with these
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recordings of the president telling bob woodward in february that the virus was airborne and that it was more deadly than a severe flu and yet he was saying the opposite in public. now we have nearly 200,000 americans dead and still counting. why hasn't all of this prompted bipartisan outrage? >> you know, i think there's just so much information coming out of this administration. a lot of republicans have just thrown their hands up and said we'll let the voters decide, they don't want to deal with it. i do think it would be easier to deal with and harder for them to escape if we could distill this into a clear story. donald trump leaning on don mcgahn and sessions to get rid of mueller, right-wing violence, having his guys at hhs try to suppress this information. it's all the same story. this is what donald trump expects of his people, the people he installs in our government, to suppress information that could hurt him
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politically and act as his guys in the government. this is the story of his whole life. if you look at all these tell-alls that are coming out, they're all telling the same story saying you can't give him a second term because it's going to be so much worse. the guardrails are gone. there's no more dire consequence than the deaths we have seen. i can't get over how far we have gone. watching the press secretary stand at that lek tern and saying the president has never downplayed the virus when we hear him on tape saying that's his game plan. i want to sit down with tucker carlson and say how does it feel that donald trump told the truth to bob woodward but he expects you to carry this deathly lie for his audience so he can have a big rally and have a show. he uses people so badly that it makes me angry, but it makes me sad in a way that i pray that we
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recover. >> paul, the president gave a new interview to fox's gentlemen -- janine pirro, this time that joe biden is taking performance-enhancing drugs. >> i think there's probably possibly drugs involved, that's what i hear. there's possibly drugs. i don't know how you can be going so bad where you ca't even -- you saw some of the those debates with the large number of people on the stage. he was -- i mean i used to say how is it possible that he can even go forward? >> the president has historically lodged baseless accusations against biden regarding his mental acuity, his stami stamina, his age. now he's claiming he's on drugs? why does he go there, paul? >> i didn't take freshman psychology so i wouldn't hazard a guess. there is this practice that he has as a political strategy or just a reflex of projection. he accuses others of that which is guilty. it doesn't mean that he
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participated in the kennedy assassination as he accused ted cruz's father but he was running against dr. ben carson. he is a profoundly faithful christian. and mr. trump said he's not really a christian. he attacked ben carlson's religious faith. i suspect that was projection. i don't think it was legitimate criticism of dr. carson. i think this may be a similar thing with joe biden. i do think it's noteworthy that biden has not risen to the bait, which is very smart. this is about the health of the american people, not about the health of joe biden. it's about whether we have a drug that fights coronavirus, not whether mr. trump is fantasizing about performance-enhancing drugs. >> amanda -- >> can i just -- >> go ahead, real quick. >> there's a real simple explanation to this one. donald trump is worried joe biden will outperform in the debates. they said he's an old guy in the basement that can't string a
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sentence together and then they had to recalibrate after the convention because, whoa, this guy can bring it. so he peddles this lie to jeanine pirro who will gobble up anything. i don't want to hear that fox news is a news network when they let jeanine pirro sit down with the president and swallow this uncontested. any journalist would stop them and say who says that? who is telling you this? because we saw what happens when jonathan swan stops him in his tracks in the oval office interview and says who is telling you that we shouldn't test? and he can't answer the question because he's making it up. >> and we have brian stelter's new book out, "hoax" and he talks all about the relationship between fox news and this administration. brian is coming up in our show a little bit but i wanted to play this sound from bill maher and he mocked his guests about being so confident about biden's
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chances in the upcoming election. watch this. >> biden's numbers have been unbelievably steady since march. he is up consistently six points. >> he better be. the whole -- what about 2016 thing? it's not 2016. people have had four years of donald trump. a verdict has more or less been rendered since he took office and joe biden is just not hillary clinton. >> races tighten at the ending. you sounding like the panels i used to have on right before the last election. you guys are -- you guys are whistling past the graveyard. >> paul, what do you think? >> bill is right. bill is a hell of a comedian. he would be a good political strategist. they always tighten at the ending. for decades i've called it natural tightening. people revert to the mean. the problem for mr. trump is his mean is about 43. now, you know, it's a steep climb from 43 to 48, 49, 50, but it's not at all impossible. my friends on the democratic side say biden has it in the bag and i say it's not even in the
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grocery cart. you add to that biden is not just running against trump, he's running against russia, he's running against voter suppression, he's running against disinformation. this is going to be a very difficult campaign for joe biden to win. we've only fired four presidents in the last century. >> paul begala and amanda carpenter, i've got to leave it there, guys, thanks so much. cnn brings you the stories of donald trump and joe biden and their fight for the white house. see their triumphs, their tragedies, their dramatic journeys to this upcoming showdown. don't miss the bakt back-to-bac documentary event tonight starting at 10:00. it has been months since covid-19 changed all of our lives from how we live to how we work. right now this show is produced from people working from home and in the office because of this virus. and now dr. fauci says these changes might not return until
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coronavirus completely changed our lives, and now dr. anthony fauci says that normal life may not return until the end of next year. he also says widely circulated claims that aren't evidence based are just making it that much harder to fight the virus. >> when you're in the middle of a pandemic and you're trying hard to address all the appropriate issues, it is truly a waste of time to have to debunk nonsense, but, you know, unfortunately we've had to do that. >> this comes as a key coronavirus model is predicting a most likely scenario of 415,000 covid-19 deaths in the u.s. by january. now, keep in mind that this is a model that has undershot what has actually happened in all of their past models. now, in the worst case scenario, these modelers say we could see more than 10,000 deaths per day in december. dr. peter hotez is joining us
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now, a professor and dean of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. wow, doctor, those numbers are so scary. if we're not careful based on what we just heard from dr. fauci, could misinformation play a role in pushing us toward that worst-case scenario and further away from a return to normal life? >> yeah, absolutely, ana. we're still in the middle of this terrible epidemic. even though the numbers are starting to go down now, down below 40,000 new cases a day, if you look globally that's still one of the highest rates in the world in terms of new cases and death, so we remain the epicenter of covid-19 on the planet, even though our numbers are starting to go down. and now we're doing some things that we know are going to bring it back up. we're forcing school reopenings, college reopenings in areas where there's lots of transmission. there's a huge football game going on at florida state university in tallahassee which is one of the most highly
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endemic areas in the country right now, so this is going to be a problem. dr. fauci is absolutely right. even with vaccines, we are still going to have a lot of transmission, especially if those vaccines are not completely protective and partially protective. >> you talk about higher risk activity and just take a look at what we're seeing today in nevada with people packed very close together. they're in line getting ready for a president trump rally that's going to happen in just a few hours. as you can see, perhaps what should be the most popular item is completely missing, or very seldom used in this crowd and those are those masks. how do you explain that? and what would you say to them? what would you say to them? >> i mean people are still refusing to wear masks as some sort of political badge. it's so self-destructive. one, you put other people at
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risk in the venue because you could likely have asymptomatic covid and you're transmitting it. you'll increase the risk of contracting covid-19. this is all the product of a disinformation campaign that's been waged by the white house since the beginning of the epidemic when the white house has repeatedly said that these cases are harmless or the hospital admissions are due to catch-up in elective admissions or that it's the flu or ridiculing people for wearing masks. this is the product of that. that coupled with the white house that the white house never launched a national program to contain this virus, and so now we are going to accelerate toward something awful as we head into the fall. the numbers, there's some disagreement around the numbers, but among them are 400 or 500,000 deaths by the end of the year and that's still a real possibility. this is the single greatest public health catastrophe that's affected our country in the last
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hundred years and we're not even close to being out of it. and even when vaccines are available, we'll still need a lot of those containment methods and we're not looking at widespread vaccination until the middle of next year probably and that's why dr. fauci says forget about returning to normalcy until later in 2021. >> and there's been all this talk about will there be a second wave. i heard dr. fauci earlier this week say i can't even go there yet because we're not out of the first wave. we're still in the first rounds of infection here. everything you said makes sense and we add even more to that equation because we're learning today, that trump appointed communication officials at the department of health and human services have been pushing to change the language of some of these weekly science reports released by the cdc to avoid undermining president trump's message when he's talking about the virus. so these doctors, right, doctors regularly rely on studies and guidance from the cdc, even more
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so now, i would assume, when we're talking about this unexpected virus that nobody has dealt with before. do you trust information given this new reporting being put out by the cdc right now? >> yeah, this is terrible. what you're referring to is called the mmwr, the morbidity and mortality weekly report. it is the most nonpartisan, apolitical journal that you can imagine. in the old days it used to be printed on pieces of white paper. my kids when they were little used to tease me about getting it. daddy, your morbidity and mortality weekly reports is here because it is the most nerdy, straightforward accounting of illness that faces the united states. it's been very important. the first report of pneumonia as an opportunistic pathogen of hiv/aids was report in the mmwr.
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we talked weeks ago about this terrible finding that 35% of the deaths among hispanics and latinx are individuals under 65, three times higher than other populations. that was in the mmwr. so it's life-saving, critically important information to know. i just can't imagine anybody ever tampering with this. these are documents written by career cdc scientists who only have the best interests of the american people at heart. so the fact that they're even willing to mess with that, tamper with that speaks volumes about what this administration is willing to do to promote an anti-science agenda disinformation. basically it's all hands on deck, do whatever it takes to win the 2020 election. that is the message that they're sending. >> dr. peter hotez, as always, thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. be well. a heat wave, massive wildfires and now nearly the entire west coast of the united states is covered in smoke. the devastation, plus hear from one woman who needed to jump
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president trump listing off a remarkable amount of fox news shows he had time to watch this week. >> i watched lou dobbs last night, sean hannity last night, tucker last night, laura. i watched fox & friends in the morning. you watch these shows, you don't have to go too far into the details. they cover things that are -- it's really an amazing thing.
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>> as some analysts noted, that was around seven hours of tv he said he watched just on wednesday. the same day that we started to hear audio recordings that bob woodward made during his sitdown interviews with president trump. when it came to how fox covered this story, it seemed to be an alternate reality. joining us now, host of "reliable sources" brian stelter. he's also the author of the new book "hoax, donald trump, fox news and the dangerous distortion of truth." brian, tell us more about how fox has been covering the woodward recordings of trump. >> yeah, sometimes fox doesn't cover the news, it tries to cover up the news. this matters when it comes to a book like woodward's book "rage" because what fox viewers are hearing, what trump supporters are hearing about the book does make a big difference. in this case it's about what they're not hearing. take a look. >> if you tuned in to fox news -- >> we'll talk about the nonstop,
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never end are hysteria. >> you might have noticed a different reality. >> president trump today had a great day, a day that any president could only dream of. >> a complete dismissal of bob woodward's bombshell in "rage." >> it's a booger dressed as a bombshell. it's nothing. >> in this reality, these comments by president trump -- >> i wanted to -- i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. >> yes. >> because i don't want to create a panic. >> a confession about downplaying the coronavirus? no. fox's star said it was not a big deal at all. >> it's so obviously nothing. >> mostly the network just changed the subject. >> what was joe biden doing for the last 47 years? >> they distracted. >> president trump started off the day with a nomination for the nobel peace prize. >> they downplayed. >> the timing of this is interesting. you know, we're less than two months out from an election and
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we're seeing his niece write a negative book about him, we're seeing michael cohen's book, we're seeing this book come out. it's a time for them to sell their books. >> and they defended the comments. >> let's make one thing perfectly clear. president trump has never misled or distorted the truth about this deadly disease. no, he acted faster than anyone else. >> tucker carlson even offered a scapegoat for the president's predicament. >> it was lindsey graham who helped convince donald trump to talk to bob woodward. >> while sean hannity pivoted right back to joe biden. >> this show has exclusively now uncovered video of joe biden downplaying the coronavirus one month after the president's travel ban. >> fox's other staple? media criticism, questioning why woodward withheld these tapes from the public for six plus months. >> now woodward is coming under scrutiny with many asking why he waited so long to come forward. >> trump, picking up that argument one hour later on twitter saying if woodward
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thought they were so bad or dangerous, why didn't he immediately report them in an effort to save lives? >> so there you go. yet another example of the trump/fox feedback loop. trump taking his talking points from his favorite network. >> i have to ask you about this "time" magazine article which explored disinformation and conspiracy theories in our culture. this matters, the reporter writes, not just because of what these voters believe but also because of what they don't. the facts that should anchor a sense of shared reality are meaningless to them. the news developments that might ordinarily inform their vote fall on deaf ears. they will not be swayed by data on coronavirus deaths. they won't be persuaded by job losses or stock market gains. and they won't care if trump called america's fallen soldiers losers or suckers, as "the atlantic" reported because they won't believe it. they are impervious to messaging, advertising or data. they aren't just infected with
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conspiracy, they appear to be inoculated against reality. quickly if you will, brian, how do you see it? >> great piece by charlotte all thor, well worth reading. it shows how this is happening in two alternate realities. this is why i wrote my book "hoax" because the president has used the word hoax to destroy our foundation of truth. he's led a hate movement against the media. i'm not trying to claim there should be a love movement in response but we do have to reach out to each other, show our common humanity. that's the way to break through these crazy conspiracy theories. is the sun actually shining? yes, it is. is the sky actually red? no, it's blue. we can get through to our friends and family with basic facts that can't be denied. >> brian, your book is really good. i've been reading it slowly because it's my nighttime reading and i'm falling asleep after putting my kids to bed. but it's really an easy, digestible read and so eye
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opening. >> thank you. >> thanks for being on with me. >> thank you. >> again, his book is "hoax." you can catch brian tomorrow morning on "reliable sources" at 11:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. we'll be right back.
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oh, no. we may as well die here. >> no, no. we have already succeeded. i mean what are the three terrors. one, the flames burn. no problem. there's a popping sound proceeding each, we can avoid that. two, the lightning sound but you were clever enough to see what that looks like. >> what about the russ. >> rodents of unusual size? i don't believe they exist. >> oh, i know you're just talking along with me there. fire spurts, lightning sand, rodents of unusual size? somehow navigating the fire swamp in "the princess bride" seems only slightly more terrifying than navigating politics these days, and so the cast of that beloved 1987 film is reuniting tomorrow for a
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virtual table read of the script and their goal is to raise money for wisconsin's democratic party in an effort to help joe biden carry that swing state on election day. joining us now is legendary director, robbe reiner and care. thank you so much. i have to say as inconceivable as it might sound this is one of my favorite movies. i watched it over and over and over again growing up to the point i used to tease my younger boy and call him farm boy. at my wedding he made some joke passing off that title to my husband, which was 15 years ago, so thank you. again, it's an honor to have you with us. >> thank you. thank you, ana. it's great to be here, and happy anniversary. >> thank you so much. i did just celebrate it this week. i have to ask, harry, why now and why wisconsin to bring this movie back to life? >> well, wisconsin, as you know,
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is an important battleground state. and we -- we need to win wisconsin in order to remove this president from office. so we decided to put all of our all of our focus and effort into turning wisconsin blue. >> and why do you feel like this is going to help that cause? >> well, we're certainly going to raise a lot of money. we also want to raise awareness to what wisconsin is going through, even before the pandemic, the state led the nation in bankruptcies, one in seven people in wisconsin have lost their jobs and along with it, health insurance. there's nothing this administration has done to help the majority of people of that state. so we want to make that clear to people so when they go out and vote they understand a vote for biden will get rid of all this
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chaos and confusion and corruption. and bring jobs back to the state. >> you talk about chaos. rob, the chairman of the democratic party of wisconsin said this, the 2020 election is just like "the princess bride," he says, giants, you have giants, monsters, chases, escapes and miracles. does it feel that way to you sometimes? >> it feels worse. i mean, you said at the beginning that the political landscape is not as scary or difficult to navigate as the fire swamp. i would suggest that it is. we're in a fight, as jbd says, for the soul of the nation and also for the life or death of democracy. stakes are enormous. when people talk about this is the election of your life, this is the election of the -- in the history of the country, there has never been as big an election except maybe during the
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civil war. so we've got a lot at stake here. we have to mobilize in droves. we have to get out the vote in droves. he's not growing his base. he's not making any outreach to anybody else. we have to get our people out. if we don't, very simply put, we will see the end of a 244-year experiment and self rule. there's an enormous amount at stake and wisconsin is right smack dab in the center of this. >> i want to bring up this line in the movie. it seems especially relevant right now in the middle of the pandemic. let's take a listen. >> why are you wearing a mask? >> were you in an accident or something like that? >> no, it's terribly comfortable. i think everyone will be wearing them in the future. >> i think everyone will be wearing them in the future. what about that line? >> boy, oh, boy. >> way ahead of his time.
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>> yeah, yeah. >> carey you said hello, my name coronavirus. you don't want to wear a mask, prepare to die. what kind of reaction did you get? >> well, every time i tweet out any lines from "princess bride" it gets a lot of awareness. because rob gave me this role that happens to be a character who wears a mask i tried to take it upon myself to use that celebrity of that character trying to encourage people to wear a mask. i was starting to wear a mask in february, when the president already knew how dangerous this pandemic was. >> what i'm trying to do is energize our base, because ultimately we are in a civil war. we're in a 21st century version of a civil war, and the country is more divided than it's ever been, and we have to decide whether or not we want to live in a country where we respect the rule of law, where we
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respect the constitution and we respect each other in terms of race and all of that. this is a battle for the soul of the nation, and we need to get our base out. we need to drive them out and make sure we overwhelm the other side at the polls. >> my thank to carey elwes and rob reiner. thank you for being with me. i'm ana cabrera. my colleague wolf blitzer picks up the coverage in "the situation room" after a quick break. people notice the trash in the harbor. it dawned on me, why not use the flow of water to get rid of it? mr. trash wheel, that flow of water will turn the water wheel and power the conveyorer and the
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system to pick up the trash. it's all self contained, renewable energy. >> but it wasn't enough to just install a trash wheel. we need to get the people of baltimore engaged. when you create a character you have to decide who is this googly eyed monster living in the harbor? we transform this had trash intercepter into a larger social media campaign to promote behavior change and pass legislation that will keep the amount of trash that we're capturing from ending up in our waterways in the first place.
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welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. this is a special edition of "the situation room." we begin with president trump's political appointees being accused by a federal health official by trying to change the wording of medical reports from the centers of disease control and prevention to better line up with president trump's messaging on the pandemic. the report in question is what's called the morbidity and mortality weekly report. the cdc's primary publication for public health information and recommendations for the american public. it's been around in some form

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