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bipartisan this >> i'm sorry, i cannot say that she has stood up for what is right. >> reporter: during a debate earlier this month -- >> i have always put the people of maine first, and i will always will. >> reporter: completely different opinions. which the people of maine will have to consider. gary tuchman, cnn, portland, maine. >> a lot of momentous races in november. anderson starts now. erin, thank you very much. good evening. we start with a look at a second night of protests in louisville, kentucky, after the grand jury findings regarding breonna taylor. protestors are facing off with what appear to be militia members. just a short time ago, the mayor announced the curfew tonight will be extended through the weekend. all of this in the wake of a grand jury's decision to charge one of the three officers involved in the death of breonna taylor. none of those charged relating to her death directly. for more on the scene there an
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update on the health of those two police officers and the search for a suspect, i want to go to jason carroll in louisville. an hour away from the 9:00 p.m. curfew, what's the latest? >> reporter: we're right here at jefferson square park where you saw where we were last night, where much of the protestors tend to gather. that's what they're doing here right now. just a short while ago, anderson, a group of a couple hundred of them marched up west jefferson street just about a few -- i don't know, less than half a mile where we are now, where they confronted a group of about 20 militia. we've seen them out here before. they say they're out here to guard federal property. last night they were out here guarding a pawnshop and gas station. so these two groups came together. there was some heated words exchanged. some of those saying it's time to get out of here, time for you to leave. the members of the militia saying we're here to protect everybody. as you can imagine, those who were black did not believe that.
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but at one point, as the two were sit thing talking, the two groups were talking, eventually one of the organizers said hey, it's time for us to go. we made our point. let's get back to the park. so they're back here at the park now. as you say, we're just about an hour away from curfew. last night, they marched well into the evening, well past midnight into the curfew hours. they're intending to do the same here tonight. anderson? >> do we have any updates on the shooting that occurred last night and how the two officers who were shot are doing? >> reporter: right. and as you know, we were there when those shots rang out last night at about 8:30. at first it was fireworks, then we heard the gunfire start to erupt. two officers were hit during that gunfire last night. the suspect is in custody. both of those officers we are told are doing well. one was hit in the stomach. that officer is still in the hospital. the other officer hit in the hip. that officer was treated and released.
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as you can imagine, the police commissioner saying earlier today how thankful he is the situation was not worse. we have seen a number of people out here carrying weapons. kentucky is an open carry state, so technically it is legal to do so. but you can imagine given all of the tension that's here on the ground, you're seeing here people carrying weapons, it just adds to the tension that's here. anderson? >> jason carroll, thank you. we'll bring you more on the story in a few moments. we'll talk with ben crump, the attorney for breonna taylor's family. first, we have to bring you up to speed what is going on in washington. >> mr. president, real quickly, win, lose, or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peacef fuful transfl of power after the election? there's been many riots across
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the country. will you commit to making sure there's a peaceful transferral of power after the election? >> we're going to have to see what happens. i've been complaining strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. >> i understand that, but people are rioting. do you commit to a peaceful transferral of power. >> get rid of the ballots and there won't be a transfer, frankly. there will be a continuation. the ballots are out of control. you know it. and you know who knows it better than anybody else? the democrats know it better than anybody else. >> the president doubled down on those comments this afternoon. since he first said that, we have heard some republicans on capitol hill affirm the need for a transfer of power. others said the president just says crazy stuff or that it was a gotcha question. nevertheless, given the importance of the need to push back regardless of party, we contacted all 53 republican senators today to invite them on
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tonight's program to talk about the president's comment. all 53 of them, you see their names there, not one agreed to come on. the president doubled down on those comments this afternoon. and not to miss out on the epic hypocrisy, the president encouraged voters in florida to vote by mail. he wrote, vote by mail ballots in florida begin going out today. request yours, fill it out and send it in, request yours today. florida, of course, has a republican governor, run by republicans and republicans in the state vote by mail-in ballot. as for the president's claims that mail-in voting is a disaster everywhere else and subject to voter fraud, keep in mind, let's hear what fbi director christopher wray said in testimony. >> we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election. whether it's by mail or otherwise.
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>> never seen it. ever. you know what we also have never seen? a president of the united states intentionally muddy the facts about voting and refuse to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. in 1981, president reagan used his first inaugural speech to speak how precious this peaceful transfer is, after thanks the chief justice and several others, these were the first words of the 40th president of the united states speaking to the american people as well as his own predecessor. >> to a few of us here today, this is a solemn and most momentous occasion. and yet in the history of our nation, sit a common place occurrence. the orderly transfer of authority as called for in the constitution, routinely takes place as it has for almost two centuries, and few of us stop to think of how unique we really are. in the eyes of many in the world, this every four-year
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ceremony we accept as normal is nothing less than a miracle. mr. president, i want our fellow citizens to know how much you did to carry on this tradition. by your gracious cooperation in the transition process, you have shown a watching world that we are a united people, pledged to maintaining a political system which guarantees individual liberty to a greater degree than any other. and i thank you and your people for all your help in maintaining the continuity which is the bulwark of our republic. [ applause ] >> ronald reagan, cherished a peaceful transfer of power and can thank his predecessor, who is sitting there for helping achieve it. that is what real presidents do. they fight hard to stay in power, but when they lose, they
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graciously give way to the other. no president is bigger than the office or a continuation of this democracy. let's go to jim acosta for the latest. jim, it's just extraordinary to the extent the president is setting the stage to contest the election if he loses. >> reporter: he really is setting the table for that, anderson. you heard the president earlier this afternoon when he was leaving for these events in north carolina and florida saying that he does not believe it will be an honest outcome in the election if certain states conduct their mail-in balloting in ways he doesn't see fit. and we heard from the white house press secretary earlier this afternoon saying the president will accept the rules of a free and fair election, but that allows the white house to invent any standard that they want. if they don't see the election meeting those standards, they're not going to recognize the outcome of the election. i will tell you not everybody inside the trump campaign agrees with this approach, agrees with this strategy. i talked to a trump campaign adviser who said he hates this kind of talk coming from the
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president because it fires up the left in the words of this trump adviser, and if the president refuses to leave the white house in 2021, the president essentially becomes -- or the outgoing president, donald trump, would become a squatter in the words of this trump adviser. so not everybody inside the campaign is on board with this strategy. >> the president touting about discarded ballots in pennsylvania. can you explain what he's talking about now, and is the justice department a part of the trump campaign now? >> reporter: well, i mean, you know, opinions vary on that front, anderson, and we'll have to see how that plays out. but i don't think this was a welcome sign today just on the face of it. the president was on fox radio talking about how ballots for president trump were found in a trash can, and the white house fr press secretary was talking about nine trump ballots
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discarded. all of a sudden the justice department puts out a press relief talking about this. what is unusual about this, not that the justice department would investigate allegations of election fraud, but the fact that it was made public to the american people that these were trump ballots. it was as if people inside the justice department were trying to furnish the president his team here at the white house, the trump campaign with an ah-ha we got them sort of moment, when these kinds of episodes, these anecdotal pieces of evidence that come across from time to time that there might be election fraud going on, they have to be investigated. that's what the pennsylvania attorney general was saying, this is an example of the system working. they found a case where something needed to be investigated. but the fact that the justice department would put out a press release saying oh, by the way we found some -- or investigating some trump ballots discarded, i think that raises some alarm bells and obviously this is a case people are going to be
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closely watching. one wrinkle we should point out is that the justice department put their press release on its website talking about this case and had to pull it down because the number of ballots in question went from nine to seven and they had to correct themselves in putting out that press release. almost seeming they were racing out there to give the president some helpful information and had to correct the record. >> jim acosta, thanks. perspective now from the colorado secretary of state and jeffrey toobin. secretary gris walt, what do you make of the justice department announcing details of an inquiry like this? >> i think the investigation is still very unclear, and we'll see what happens when the details develop. what is clear is the president is using his position as president to tilt an election in his favor. it seems that the use of a doj is to try to undermine mail-in ballots further, because the
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president believes that at least the use of mail ballots in some state also hurt his chances. i just urge americans to ignore what the president is saying on vote by mail. he is lying to keep power. and what americans should do is just make sure their registration is up to date. vote a mail ballot if it's available, and make a plan to vote early and make all of our voices heard. >> jeff, any precedent for something like this? for -- i mean, for a president doing this, for what the department of justice is doingsome >> well, no and no. it's important to realize that one of the bedrock principles of the justice department is you don't release partial information about an investigation that is just getting started. this is something that every assistant u.s. attorney learns, that you don't tell the press you're looking into subject a, b, or c. what you do is you issue a press
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release when the case is resolved. usually with an indictment or but to release that you are investigating, you know, possible tampering or some sort of improper conduct, it's also vague that you can't even tell what went on here. it looks like, as you suggested, this was a trump campaign press release in the form of a department of justice letter from a u.s. attorney. and it is really a tremendous embarrassment that the justice department has started to behave this way, but i think you can see why. it's because they are -- the president is trying to undermine the election in general, and mail-in ballots in particular. >> secretary griswold, if seven ballots were found in the
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garbage, why would that happen? in your state, what sort of, you know, is there -- the claims by the president is that this validates the idea that there is widespread, organized voter fraud with universal ballots. >> i think it's really important to highlight study after study shows the rate of any voter fraud is extremely low. you can just look at the heritage foundation, the conservative think tank that puts the rate of voter fraud at 0.00006% with mail ballots. so i really do believe this is a political stunt. this is not the first time that the president has tried to use federal agencies to bolster his crusade against this election. and i want to underline how dangerous this is for the nation. we have a president who is not committing to respect the outcomes of our elections. we need to make sure that every american is ready to go to the polls and equipped with the information that they need.
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because every american needs to have their voice heard if they're eligible to vote, and we cannot let the president sow so much confusion into our election that it suppresses voter turnout in november. >> the president also said which -- is that something the doj would do? >> never. the u.s. attorney wrote this two-page letter. it is so unclear what each happened here. one of the reasons you don't release preliminary information as a prosecutor is because it is incomplete and sometimes mysterious in what it actually means. so the idea that there was some sort -- it's not even clear what went on here. and the fact that they mentioned that these were seven or seven out of nine or nine out of nine, again, it's vague, trump ballots
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jumd li underlines that this was not a legitimate law enforcement information to release this information. it was simply a stunt to help the president discredit mail-in balloting. this is precisely what the justice department should not be doing. >> secretary griswold, where does the state of colorado stand with the mail-in voting process? and i'm wondering how confident you are that it's working in your state? >> well, in colorado, we have the national gold standard when it comes to elections. we mail a ballot to every registered voter. and i am tremendously confident in the ability to have a great election in november. you know, there was a back and forth with the postmaster general. he has given us assurances that the postal services is up to the task. more importantly, we won a couple of lawsuits making sure that postage and mail ballots are delivered in a timely fashion. but i am concerned about the president's rhetoric that we have a president who disrespects
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the very foundation of our democracy. and unfortunately, we do not have the legal guard rails in place to ensure that our elections go so that every american can have their voice heard. so what i hope is that after this election, we continue our national conversation, a conversation to make sure that every american's right to vote is respected, and that means vote by mail for all, early voting, same-day voter registration, and access for every american across the nation just like we have here in colorado. >> are you getting any sense that the president's scare tactics about mail-in voting is giving voters in colorado any second thoughts about the system's integrity? >> the president has a huge platform, and i think it's just such a shame for the nation and confidence in our elections that he chooses to use it for corrupt purposes. i will say in our june 30th primary, we set a record turnout.
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99.3% of ballots were cast using a mail ballot, even with the opportunity to use in-person voting. and that a higher percentage of republican voters chose to use their mail ballots. we are getting an increase number of calls asking about how the process will work. and we're trying the best, i'm trying my best to push back against the lies and that's why i think it's so important to have these conversations, so that americans know that the president is spewing lies for his own political game, and that they should continue to make a plan and cast a ballot. >> jenny griswold, appreciate your efforts. jeffrey toobin, coming up. just ahead, more on the second night of protests over the grand jury's decision in the killing of breonna taylor. the family's attorney joins us. , plus an immediate cooling sensation for your throat. feel the clarity, and live claritin clear.
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we're following protests in louisville, kentucky tonight. you can hear crowds chanting "breonna taylor." this is a scene in a few moments ago. demonstrators demanding justice for breonna taylor, chanting "say her name." >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! you >> say her name! >> breonna taylor! >> that chant "say her name" is part of a movement meant to highlight the names of black female victims of violence. we want to focus on the case
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that has move sod many in the streets in louisville and elsewhere and discuss why the grand jury decided to charge one officer with wanton endangerment. this is the attorney for breonna taylor's family, benjamin crump. i wonder your reaction to the charges and how the taylor family has been dealing with this. >> well, anderson, breonna's family was devastated. they were heart broken, and they were outraged. and like me and my co-counsels, attorney anita baker and attorney sam aguilar, they were baffled by what kentucky attorney general david cameron actually presented to the grand jury. did he present any evidence at all on behalf of breonna taylor? and if he didn't, then he unilaterally made the decision to put his thumb on the scales
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of justice to exonerate those police officers that killed breonna taylor and made sure that she would not get due process of the law, and that she would not get justice. and that's why we are demanding that the transcripts of the grand jury proceedings be released so we can see if breonna's voice was ever put forth before that grand jury. >> how much of a heads up did the attorney general give the taylor family before making the announcement? and were -- i mean, were the charges clearly explained to them? >> anderson, he notified them about ten minutes before the decision was announced to the world. and no, there was not much explanation given whatsoever. in fact, my co-counsel had to explain to ms. palmer that the
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wanton endangerment charge was not even for breonna's apartment, but for her white neighbors in the next door apartment. they didn't return wanton endangerment charges for her black neighbors, who had a bullet go into their apartment. nor did they bring any wanton endangerment charges for the bullets that were shot blindly into breonna taylor's apartment, and worst of all, anderson cooper, they did not bring wanton murder charges for the bullets that went into breonna taylor's body. >> the kentucky governor today reiterated his call for the attorney general to release the grand jury documents to the public. the louisville mayor also said the city is working with the attorney general's office and the fbi to "determine what we can release so it doesn't interfere with any of the ongoing investigations." do you think that's actually going to happen? it doesn't happen very often, or does it?
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>> it doesn't happen often, anderson, but since the kentucky attorney general, daniel cameron, talks about transparency, then what better way to be transparent than to release the transcripts? you remember, anderson, they released them in the aftermath of the killing of michael brown in ferguson, missouri. so there is a precedence where you can release the transcripts of a grand jury proceeding. because what we really want to know is did he present evidence of the lieutenant who lied on the probable cause affidavit, which was the basis for the judge to sign a no-knock warrant that allowed them to go to breonna taylor's house, bust open the door and kill her? or did he call the 12 neighbors that our legal team interviewed that said there was no knocking and announcing the presence of the police. daniel cameron keeps putting
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forth this one neighbor who said that he heard the police knock and announce. but they're not telling you that neighbor, on two previous statements, said that he didn't hear any police officers knock and announce themselves. so did he only present that one person to the grand jury and all this ridiculousness about self-defense. the law is very clear in kentucky. did he tell them that when you are a third party innocent bystander, that the person who is claiming self-defense does not have the right to use violence or injure you or to shoot you if there's another person who used a force against them to apply self-defense. and everybody, anderson cooper, has said that breonna had no gun, she posed no threat. she was a black woman in her own home, in her underwear, when her body was mutilated by six bullets shot by the louisville
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met politan police department. >> you tweeted today that this is a documented and clear coverup. i spoke to kenneth walker, breonna taylor's boyfriend, his covering up? >> well, the fact that if he didn't put the context about the probable cause affidavit that show this was based on a lie in the first place, saying that the united states postal inspector said breonna was getting packages delivered to her house, and then the united states postal inspector said we never made that statement, there were no packages delivered to breonna taylor's house. so if that wasn't communicated in that grand jury proceeding, how isn't that a cover-up? there's so many things when you think about this case when it first happened. breonna's mother and sister calling every day to the police department saying can you explain to me why you killed my daughter in her own apartment.
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and they they have get any answers, but they release a three-page police report that was filled with lies saying there was no signs of force entry, when we know they busted open the door. then they said there were no injuries, yet breonna was executed there in the hallway of her apartment. and so we do believe it was a coverup from go. they always intended to sweep this under the rug as if breonna taylor's life didn't matter. and it continues a long pattern in america that they disrespect and try to marginalize the lives of black women, but breonna's legacy will be that black women's lives matter to america. >> there is an fbi investigation still ongoing. do you have confidence this that? >> well, we have to see, because we have to see if they're going to look at this whole no-knock
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warrant, which we believe was unconstitutional and illegal from the beginning. because they lied on the probable cause affidavit, which is a civil rights violation to breonna taylor. so are they going to hold people accountable for that? and that's what they should do. are they going to hold people accountable for shooting bullets and telling mistruths in the aftermath of the killing of breonna taylor? because what we continue to say is we want to make sure that there are not two justice systems in america, one for black america, one for white america. and the one for black america seems to always end that the police officers did no wrong. and just because they say it's legal, that doesn't make it right. it's the 65th anniversary today of the lynching of emit till, and they said that was legal. but that didn't make it right. so when daniel cameron, this
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attorney general for kentucky, tries to tell us that it was justifiable and it was legal, well, that does not make it right. >> benjamin crump, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. president trump claims he could overrule the fda if the agency tried to put tougher standards in place to approve a coronavirus vaccine. take a look if that's possible. i'll talk it over with the former director of cdc when we continue. if you're at home thinking about your financial plan... so are we. prudential helps 1 in 7 americans with their financial needs. that's over 25 million people. with over 90 years of investment experience, our thousands of financial professionals can help with secure video chat or on the phone. we make it easy for you with online tools, e-signatures, and no-medical-exam life insurance. plan for better days. go to or talk to an advisor.
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keeping a close eye on the second night of protests in louisville after the grand jury's decision in the breonna taylor case, we'll bring you any
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updates. the coronavirus death toll in the u.s. is approaching 203,000. president trump continues to inject election year politics into the science of any possible vaccine. yesterday, the president claimed the white house could overrule his own fda if the agency tried to put tougher standards in place to approve a coronavirus vaccine. today, as part of an online conversation with cnn's dr. sanjay gupta, dr. anthony fauci made it clear that white house override would be a problem. >> the issue is that the scientists and the fda have put this forth as what their proposal for the criteria for eua. under normal circumstances, that decision is theirs, the secretary approves it, and that's it. something that comes from whiteout that is not a soon tifk consideration, would be troublesome. >> troublesome. politics and science at a political juncture. joining me now is dr. tom friedman, former cdc director.
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i assume you agree it's troublesome, but can the president do that? >> anderson, if you think about what makes a vaccine work, it has to be safe, effective, and trusted. and if they cut corners and stop a trial early to rush something into people's arms, we're not going to know whether it's safe. we're not going to know whether it's effective for all groups such as the elderly. and we're not going to have the trust in it that's needed to get it used. we all want there to be a vaccine available as soon and safely as possible. but if you look at what this administration has done with masks, when to close, when to open, what to do with schools, what you've seen is a per sis temperature a -- consistent overruling of science that's backfired. it's why we have lost so many millions of jobs and lost over 200,000 people. backs science is the way to get
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back to a new normal. >> clearly the president doesn't feel the same way. do you know if he would have the power to override something that the fda would normally be able to just do? >> well, on the one hand, you have an advisory committee that's external. that's going to meet i believe on october 22 to look at data. whether something happens before that date, on that date, or after that date. it is possible just as washington dictated things to be put on the cdc website, or as you had a very politicized set of decisions on emergency use authorizations of hydroxychloroquine and conslow less enlt plasma, it's possible that the white house could interfere with science. that has a huge risk for covid and all vaccines of undermining trust is something that's already questioned by many in society. the risks here are huge. they're not just that we'll
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continue to have spread of covid, but that we'll have less trust in many different vaccines. one thing that's important to keep in mind is as important as a vaccine is, and it's very important, it's only one tool. there's no fairy tale ending to this pandemic. even with a vaccine, we're going to need to hold off on large in-person, indoor gatherings. we're going to need to track down cases and contacts, stop clusters, wear masks, hold off of hand shaking for at least most of 2021 if not beyond. >> so how does it end? if the vaccine comes out or several vaccines come out and they're able to, you know, have an efficacious rate of 50%, 70%, i mean, is this now just something that's going to exist out there just like the seasonal flu and some people will die, and some people will be able to be vaccinated and it's something
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that will just be there? >> well, first off, we don't know what's going to happen. it's had less than a year in the human population. it may change with time. but one thing is certain, there's no one answer here. what we have to do is chip away at the pandemic. each of those chips is important, the three ws, wear a mask, watch your distance, wash your hands. closing risky indoor places when there's a lot of spread in the community. better treatment, steroids knock down mortality by a third in severely ill people. a vaccine would be the most important tool, but only one tool. contract tracing, rapid isolation, quarantine. these are all tools that will allow us to get to a new normal and get most of our economy back. and have some new ways of doing things even better and more efficiently. but if any one of these tools is undermined as masks and testing and isolation and contact tracing have already been
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undermined by politicizing the science, it sets us back and results in death and economic devastation that are avoidable. >> thank you very much. president trump continues to pound away on the election not being honest, and he's refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election. next, we'll talk about the tremors that kind of message sends throughout the country. it's hard. eliminate who you are not first, and you're going to find yourself where you need to be. ♪ i'm a delivery operations manager in san diego, california. we were one of the first stations to pilot a fleet of electric vehicles. we're striving to deliver a package with zero emissions into the air. i feel really proud of the impact that has on the environment.
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we're keeping an eye on the protests in louisville stemming from the breonna taylor case. this as president trump continues to claim that the upcoming election won't be honest. "new york times" columnist tom friedman has covered world leaders who have tried to stay in power and author of "why we need a green revolution" and joins me now. tom, we played president reagan's statement when he gave his first inaugural address and the first thing he addressed was the common place nature of the peaceful transfer of power and praised jimmy carter for making it so easy to facilitate that. but overseas where president's dress up in fake military uniforms when they have their families running other branches of government, they don't have peaceful transfers of power.
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were you surprised that the president said this? i mean, a lot of people said yes, it's stunning but not surprising. >> i found it stunning and surprising, anderson. you know, i began my career as a journalist covering lebanon's second civil war and its history. and i'm terrified to find myself ending my career as a journalist covering america's potential second civil war in its history. >> you really believe that? >> i think what happened in the last few days is a six alarm fire. i think it's defcon five. the president of the united states has told us i either win the election or delegitimize the election. those are your choices. he's trying to get people to say, what the heck, he wants it so bad, just give it to him. i think this is certainly is the most frightening moment in my
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life. it's frightening because of him. it's frightening because he's backed by a state-owned network. and it's terrifying, because the republican party has become basically a political brothel that rents itself out by the night to whoever will energize its base. whether it was sarah palin and the tea party, now trump. this is a party that went into its convention with no platform, just basically said whatever trump wants, we want. and i -- if you're not frightened now, if you are not terrified for what could happen, it's not we might have a disputed election. it is we are going to have a disputed election unless trump wins, in which case i shutter to think what four more years of this would be like. >> it does -- it is certainly a waving red flag to armed supporters of the president who
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feel aggrieved, who believe in conspiracy theorys, who are showing up already to protests to, you know, guard garages and stuff. it certainly puts them on notice that the president is up for the idea of not having a peaceful transfer of power. >> yeah. i think that you simply cannot count on not only the rules, but the norms. what really governed the country, the words on paper aren't important, but we're learning what is so much more important are the norms that people used to apply those words and that certain things were considered off the table. and what donald trump did in the last two days, basically delegitimizing a legitimate form of voting with a virtually zero percent case of corruption, as your previous guests noted. used by democrats and
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republicans, electing democrats and republicans, mail-in voting. he's delegitimizing that, because he thinks he's going the lose. and i think this is just the beginning. this should be breaking news, banner headline on cnn, the new york times, "the washington post" every day. this is all we should be talking about. i promise you on november 3rd and 4th, this is ault ll we wil talking about, and by then, it could be too late. >> how does this play out in other countries that you've seen? again, i can't believe we're having this conversation frankly. because i just can't believe it. >> i was -- before i came on, i was reading up about belarus, this russian satellite basically, where their president basically cooked the election. he's been in power 26 years, saying the country needs me now. we're in a terrible crisis. and the state department has made some mild protests. but as a foreign correspondent,
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that's sort of what you do. you cover those kind of elections and then you call the state department and you get some statement. hopefully a strong one that stands up for the principles of self-determination and free and fair elections. that's what i did all these years as a foreign correspondent. now you have to do it in your own country. the people you want to call, the justice department, they're not answering the phone. they're in on the joke. it's not a joke at all. i just think, you know, one of the most ridiculous statements made by any journalist was after trump was elected, who excoriated the press for saying, oh, you silly reporters. you took him literally, but his supporters only took him figuratively. you never should have taken him literally. that turns out to be the single stupidest statement anybody ever made because everything trump has literally said he has done
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or tried to do this. this is a man you should definitely take at his literal word when he talks about these kind of shenanigans. >> that is the irony of trump is that the only thing transparent about him is he does say all the stuff that is in his head that he wants to do. he says it on twitter. he says it out loud. people discounted. they poo-poo it and say don't take it literally but he does speak the quiet stuff people think out loud. >> when you have a president without shame backed by a party without spine amplified by a network without integrity and by social networks in conspiracy theories, behind them are a lot of armed people, if you aren't frightened by this you are not paying attention. >> so what do you do? >> there is only one thing to do. vote. go out and vote. vote for joe biden.
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raise money for joe biden. canvas for joe biden. register someone. help someone register to vote for joe biden and drive someone to the polls to vote for joe biden. this is all about power, anderson. you're not going to persuade the republican party, i had a good laugh tonight when i saw that lindsey graham said don't worry. if we have -- if joe biden wins the election you have nothing to worry about. we'll abide by that. the same guy who said if the supreme court situation that the republicans rammed through before repeated again he wouldn't be for it. there is only one tool we have. it is a tool that can work. that is to overwhelmly vote. i have written and i will repeat i will walk to the polls. i will crawl to the polls. i will slither to the polls, bike to the polls, hike to the polls, but i will cast my vote for joe biden. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. up next, what happened when
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president trump paid his respects to the late ruth bader ginsburg.
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president trump and first lady melania trump paid their respects to the late justice ruth bader ginsburg this morning outside the supreme court. this was the reaction. that's booing. there were also some chants from the crowd. [ chanting ] vote him out! vote him out! >> the crowd yelling, "vote him out." they didn't stop there. there was also this.
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[ chanting ] honor her wish! honor her wish! >> honor her wish shouting a reference to justice ginsburg's reported request to her granddaughter that her replacement not be confirmed until after a new president was court. what did the president have to say about the crowd's reaction? >> reporter: anderson, he was asked about it as he was leaving the white house and dismissed those chants of vote him out. he said he could barely hear anything. it was the white house press secretary who really lashed out calling the chants appalling saying the president is always greeted with respect in other parts of the country. the first lady and president stayed here for mere minutes and really the president has been very careful to be very respectful to ruth bader ginsburg. he has ordered the flags at half staff but of course he has also dismissed her dying wish to wait to name her successor because he'll name one on saturday night. >> dismissed and claimed she
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didn't say it. tomorrow justice ginsburg will lie in state at the u.s. capitol making her the first woman in american history to receive the honor. do we know the protocol? >> reporter: it is a rare honor and has been bestowed on ruth bader ginsburg by house speaker nancy pelosi. other women have been honored at the capitol like rosa parks but she was lying in honor as opposed to lying in state so this is a big deal. ruth bader ginsburg's casket will be brought from the supreme court over to the u.s. capitol tomorrow morning when there will be a ceremony and included in that ceremony will be an opera singer and of course we know just how much justice ruth bader ginsburg loved her opera. >> appreciate it. thank you very much. the news continues. we'll head over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> thank you. welcome to "primetime." our president who pledges law and order, who promised on his watch carnage would end, well, today he doubled down on the idea that he may defy the law.
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that he may allow or maybe even cause disorder and indeed invite carnage if this election is not to his liking. >> we want to make sure the election is honest and i'm not sure that it can be. i don't know that it can be with this whole situation, unsolicited ballots. they're unsolicited. >> he says the word honest. but i do not think he knows what that word means not just from his own behavior but what he is talking about with voting. we have no reason for suspicion that mail-in ballots are any less safe than any other kind of voting. now, the republican controlled senate in the face of this statement by him, this escendiary, toxic statement by a