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evacuations and mandatory. now we were bless this time but people are waiting. we are able to see the sound and wind and all of this. the best thing is because it is daylight, it is not as bad. >> all right, mayor bartie, i appreciate your time, i hope everyone is okay and not destructive for you. thank you again. thank you all of you for joining us. we continue to follow this story, let's hand it over to "ac 360." talk about the president's appeti appetite. one super spread event is not enough. john berman here in for anderson cooper. we'll bring you a live report at lake charles. the president of the united states grapple of rising covid-19 numbers and falling
poll numbers. the president after all had the face of a neon sole proprietorship had been telegraphing his frustration and all of it along for the craving agilation. tomorrow, hundreds of supporters will be on the grass there and the president will be on the balcony, he'll be at a safer style. hundreds of people. two weeks to the day since the ceremony for amy coney barrett since contracted barrett. today anthony fauci called the affair of what it truly was. >> had a super spreader event in the white house. it was a situation where people were crowded together were not wearing masks so the data speak for themselves. >> a super spreader event from
dr. fauci. dr. birx added "the only thing that'll prevent the next wave is us, us doing the responsible thing and public spaces and private spaces". sounds like she did not get the memo from a certain commander-in-chief or the note from his doctor clearing him from public appearances. as for the rest of the content, dr. sanjay gupta joins us in a minute had this to say to anderson last night. >> there is no temperature on here for somebody who had an infection and that's key. that's not having a temperature is one of the criteria for starting to come out of isolation and they did not mention temperature here. instead they said he had a trajectory and advance diagnostic and the right
trajectory. i don't even know what it means. what tests? it is purposely disappointing. if you want information, do it, otherwise you are providing gib gibberish. >> the president evaded that question on fox and he had to stop twice to cough and clear out his throat during the process. we don't know the last time he said he tested negative before he got ill. it may be academic for him from a medical standpoint. it would clue the public in as to whether he knowingly kept campaigning and holding events while infected. today the white house stone walled. >> you said you don't have that, you don't know or you don't want to say? >> so, we don't have that and i don't personally know.
>> what us does it mean? >> have you asked? you said wednesday you will be looking into that. >> the h hah llie, the president does not check all of his rights. the doctors share full information with the president and the president shares a great deal of information with the american public. >> he says a lot more after that but never answered the question. would you think everything is going well and all the tests are coming back great. would you think this president of all people is eager to have it out there, would he be shouting it at the nearest balcony. the president went onto rush limbo provided a real and phony substitute. >> and greetings to you, music lovers and thrill seekers and
conversationalis conversationalists, mr. president, it is an honor to have you with us. i want you to do something for me, sir. >> go ahead. >> i want you to imagine you just landed in a gleaming majestic air force one to the largest radio rally in history, instead of thousands of cheering, there are millions and millions of patriots out there right now anxiously awaiting to hear from you. >> so the president needed his sugar and even though it was only splenda, the dose was enough to get him talking for 111 minutes. he went through the usual grievances and false allegations of mail-in voting. what stood out, he would use any tool to win. here he is reacting to news of the russia probe would not be out before election day. >> if that's the case, i am very d disappoint disappointed. i think it is a terrible thing.
i will say it to his face. republicans don't play the tough game. if this were the other side, you would have 25 people in jail for the rest of their lives of what we found. >> there he is drirectly framin the justice o f the country as another tool used in hardball politics. politics is not bean bag. if that kind of thinking and talking concerns you as it should concern us all, there is another way of looking at it for as much as the president seems to be dreaming of a new world. some of it is focusing on the rear-view mirror not on the election he's losing but on the election he won, the candidate that he beat. listen to mike pompeo today. >> we got the e-mail for getting it out and all the information out so the american people can
see it. you will remember. it was classified information and a private server and should have never been there. hillary clinton should never have done it. it is unacceptable behavior. >> the president had the authority to declassify it. could he declassify it? >> absolutely. we are going to get the information out so the american people could see it. >> that's going to sink hillary clinton's chances. it had nothing to do with 213,000 americans dead of covid and millions out of work and kids not in school. the president about to hold another super spreader event. nothing to do with the election. this election, less than a month away. more now from jim acosta at the white house. jim, this massive event on the lawn, what kind of safety protocols is the white house going to have in place? we are learning 2,000 people have been invited?
>> that's right, john. we are not sure how many of those people will show up. there is sort of a buyer be-ware element at the white house. we are told hundreds of people should show up and safety precautions, we are told by the white house they plan doing coronavirus tests here. it will be those rapid tests that are sometimes unreliable. they'll require people to wear masks, of course they don't have a great track record. i saw the administration officials walking around on the grass not wearing their masks. you know this is the potential and i don't think we are over stating it. there is a potential that this will be another super spreader event even on the same day apartme fauci was talking about this super spreader event. what can you tell us about the rally on monday? >> right, that's going to be in
sandford, florida and orlando. central florida is going to be hugely important. if donald trump wants to win the state of florida, that's crucial for his quest. we are hearing the president could have an event everyday next week or that she's striving to have an event everyday next week. tonight we have no indication from the president's team of doctor as to he has any conditions to doing this. even though he potentially could be spreading the coronavirus. >> jim acosta, please stay safe there. appreciate you being with us. >> will do. david gerton and abby phillips, our chief medical corresponde correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. two weeks after the day, the
event where dr. fauci called it super spreading of a mask gathering at the same place. >> it is a pandemic. there may be still people there who recently contracted the virus and besides the president who could be contagious. it was reckless before he got covid and it is still reckless. it does not matter what group of people coming together for. the virus does not care. it could jump to host to host. it is a terrible idea. even if the president is distanced? what about the other people? the white house staffs they have been exposed to the virus. we have no sort of protection. >> what's your take on the protocols in place for keeping the people safe there?
>> we sort of gone through this a few times. testing is important overall. the idea of using it like this and telling people and making it okay that people don't have to wear masks, they can physically distance and not abide by public health stuff, that does not work that way. the real value of a test is if it comes back positive then you know you need to isolate. if it comes back negative, you still have to abide by those public health guidelines. it is just that you don't have to isolate. you can come in kalcontact withe virus and you yourself can be carrying the virus and the test did not pick it up. >> 2,000 people were invited to this event. if that's the number and even if it is half that, they are going to be packed in.
how irresponsible thinks? >> it is morally irresponsible. you can see me talking but you may put your health at risk. over 20 people in the president's inner circle. how many people must be struck down by this before the president comes to a senses. it raise a question as he comes down from the hospital five days ago whether his judgment is impaired and being on the balcony and calling this scene and moussilini and this has all what a strong man do. it is disturbing. >> abby phillips, is there no one in the building who can tell the president this is a bad idea or stir him in a different direction? >> clearly not. the president has done a number of things that don't make any
sense. not the least of which you know coming home from the hospital immediately going up to the top of the balcony and taking his mask off in the presence of other people and he insisted on working from the oval office when he can work anywhere. this is a president who wants to do what he wants to do. he's surrounded by aides who'll let him. on top of that i think what we'll see tomorrow and with a lot of other events is a president who wants agilation. he wants large crowds. there are real consequences. as sanjay pointed out and we learned today that nine people who attended his rallies in minnesota contracted the coronavirus. people are getting sick and this is not registering to the president or people around him. but what's reckless of this event tomorrow is all it does is reminding people that the president wants to flout the
rules that other people are living by. >> san yejay, it is not just th event tomorrow but a rally tomorrow. the president want to do one in person everyday this week. we saw a rally with donald trump jr. in florida. people were packed inside the room unmasked there and even if they are outside, they are not wearing masks and sitting together closely. this is flouting the cdc's guidelines in the middle of a pandemic. >> history is not going to judge these events kindly at all. the thing about florida, too, florida is a place essentially opened up. the pandemic is over as far as governor desantis is concerned. and you know that makes it much more likely that if you were going to go to a rally like that that you are going to come to contact with someone who's carrying the virus. when you start looking at a certain trajectory of viral
spread, it starts to amplify itself. it goes to exponential growths and these rallies as we have seen as the white house could turn it into a super spreader events. many people infected and going back to their homes and communities. it is a huge problem. you know we are making a big deal and it is worth celebrating. we can't get the basics right. the hard stuff is going to be hard to get done. >> david gergen. this is nothing, that is political event. the president can't violate and we saw convention speeches there. he'll let nothing go of busting norms. >> he's on sbsessed of winning reelection and whether he's
going to be humiliated or not. we can understand why he's been told that but he's a guy who has to make the calls and make a final decision and it is up to him. his judgment is impaired and it is dangerous for the country. john, increasingly it comes apparent before people go to the polls on november 3rd, biden and trump must be clear with their record. what does it all mean and how dangerous do we elect this person the next four years. >> it is hard to see it is anything but bad politics. why keep showing this picture? sanjay, big picture on the pandemic now. we are seeing record high hospitalizations in ten states. we are seeing case numbers rise.
how concerning is this? >> one thing we talked about it in terms of people infected and died and recovered, you know the impact of what happens to people in the interim, people get sick and you start to project and what are the hospital bed requirements are going to become as we go into the winter months. what do we really have? we found this sort of burying into the model. the purple line shows what the hospital beds demand may be as we go into the end of the year. you find it starts to significantly exceed what we actually have in terms of hospital beds. i think we have one more graphic here if we can show in the country right now where are we of hospital capacity. the darker the color. the flow of the hospitals are. we have not really gotten into the bulk of flu season yet. add into covid, we are running
into trouble. a lot of planners have been calling me and talking to me about this. they're looking at convention halls and buildings. it is going to be cold outside. they got to find places that could serve hospital facilities. i know we have gone through this before. we talked about it back in april. we'll talk about it again here. >> it was worst one week ago. david gergen, abby phillips and sanjay, thank you very much. >> what tony schwartz, author of the book that makes donald trump household names. hurricane delta, you can see it rier right there comes ashore. now is the time for a new bath from bath fitter.
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he believes he's going to lose this election. that's making him crazy. he's fearful of the laws and being seen as a loser. he's fearful of losing his power and sense of control. and he legislatiives to be in c. this is a time where you think about how you feel when you are really anxious and you are really upset. you lose connection to your brain specifically to your front frontal-cortex, you are driven by your emotions, by your amygdala. all those things you mention can
be explained that there is not anything rational going on. there is simply survival instincts playing out. >> he does or does not think these decisions will help him because that's what i can't figure out. this debate you would think would be one of the few things that may be able to get him back into this race but he walks away. why do something that would ultimately hurt you. >> he does it out of impulse as he does with everything. the impulse is to prove how powerful he is. i will walk away the debate and he gets flooded with evidence that's not a good idea so he flips again and says i will do the other debate. some way of trying to flip the equation after he's done it. it is the impulse that arises first and impulses are always to feel better about himself.
>> how capable do you think he would be or will he be of the last debate in two weeks from now in be lahaving differently n the first debate? >> it is sort of a no-win situation. if he does not debate, he's losing the only opportunity he has to once again make his case to the public. on the other hand if he does do the debate and we look at what's happening before and how upset he is, the odds are he'll do further damage to himself. i think what he's feeling is that, this is flipping away from him. day by day and he sees it as a verdict in his life. >> what about the stimulus negotiations. what do they tell you, the fact that he walked away and going back. it is not the strongest
negotiation position. >> forget about that. he walked away because he wanted to dome straight that he could do whatever he wanted to do damn it. he came back because once again there was a terrible response from the stock market but also people he respects or he does not respect, he thinks they're on his side. and they made the case and he is a little quieter internally. he then recognized oh my god given this stimulus is a positive for me. when he said i am walking away, he was not thinking. >> what's your take on the event tomorrow at the white house, in divi inviting 2,000 people where he'll address them from the balcony? >> i felt what i am about to say for a long time. he's jim jones now.
he's inviting people to the white house and drink the kool-aid and die. he has a cult following. they are brainwashed and his own people around him are brainwashed and quite frankly if i was standing across from him, i would be frighten. he never frightened me but i would be frighten. you watch what he did with biden where he just rolled on him. he just kept coming at him. that's and i had this experience very, very hard to resist. he's going to bring in those people and he's going to subject them to a terrible outcome. >> you wrote on twitter looerecy and i follow you, trump seems to determined to ensure his defeat by a landslide.
what do you this i the nenk the days is going to look like? >> nobody knows anything. it will change 15 times. it will be many, many more unexpected events that'll all jump up and start all that. i do believe and nobody wants to say this but i apologize being the exception. i do believe he's going to lose. i do believe he's going to lose by a huge margin. democrats don't want to say that but i do believe that's what's going to happen. i think he's right. it has slipped away. >> tony schwartz, we'll see, 25 days left. we appreciate your insight. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. breaking news, hurricane delta slamming into louisiana coast as we speak. only six weeks after another big storm, hurricane laura drove through the region. we have an update when "360" continues. ...i was cured.
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companies play by our rules. we need experienced leadership to wipe away trump's stain on america for good. breaking news, hurricane delta made landfall in louisiana, 200,000 are now without power as well as texas with powerful winds and storm surge. this is the fourth major storm that hit louisiana in the last year. martin mart martin savidge is joining us now in louisiana. how are things looking? >> reporter: it is pretty bad. storms went to the east of here. we are not getting the worst of
the winds. delta come ashore, things should be getting easy. it is an increment at a time. still getting hammered here. the winds have been extreme. not necessarily high force hurricane winds. you got to remember lake charles is in a situation like few other places in louisiana. it was hammered and devastating by hurricane laura six weeks ago and now it is being hit again by category 2 storm and in my cases the buildings were so weaken because of the hurricane laura. 95% of buildings and homes had been damaged in some way. their ability to stand up to a second blow is really in question. that's why they began mandatory evacuations on wednesday, telling people it is not safe to stay home in the middle of the storm. there is the debris. there is tons of debris.
we were in the neighborhood earlier. it would be suicidal to be in there with all the floods and wires and woods and nails. all of that is flying through the air. it would be lethal if anyone is walking. the circumstances for this city have unique. that's why they are worried of how it will eventually look like in the morning. power is out in many places. we continue to check the storm as it started with laura and now continues with delta. this community is suffering. >> it sounds like ferocious there right now. if you can hear me, you mentioned that delta storm passed a few weeks ago and there were still tarps out in many buildings, what did they do to get ready for this?
>> the first thing they did was telling people to leave. you have to leave. many did. there were many others suffering from evacuation and did not want to leave. i talked to families staying behind, they have no idea how to handle things now. the debris pile is 5 to 6 feet high all along the streets in which they live. i think a lot of people here they got out. for those who stayed behind, they got to be careful right now. there is nothing much they can do. >> martin savidge, you and your team please stay safe. thank you very much for being there for us. for more on the storm let's go to tom sater in the weather center. what's the latest of where this hurricane headed. how strong is it? well, it dropped to category 1 is expected. it is typical when they interacted with land and made
landfall. lake charles, the wind gusts went from 75 miles per hour to 95. so i think those of us who are going to be seeing videos out of this region tomorrow for most of us we are not going to know the difference between what was new damage or old damage. they'll know. they have been spending the days and weeks trying to clean up and rebuild. we are down to category 1. hurricane delta. it is the second time we got into the greek alphabet. the last time is 2005. not only delta is the first hurricane with the name of the greek alphabet to make landfall to the u.s., it is the fastest pace to go from a tropical depression to a category 4. it took 30 hours to make landfall and making it to cancun. we know it will grow inside. before it hits cancun, the eye
was a win wheel. we have our category 1. incredible. we got two within the six weeks hitting the exact same area. heavy rainfall is falling of 9 or 10 inches. storm surge is over 90 to 10 no. lafayette with a home of 130,000 getting into it. only 10 or 13 miles between laura and delta. why pattern of wind damage? over 200,000 without power? that'll grow over night. look at 55 in alexander and 41 in baton rouge and jackson at 52? unbelievable. this is the 25th named storms for this season, john. the record is 28 from 2005. we had 7.5 more weeks of the season to go. watch out for the tornados tomorrow, parts of louisiana over night and the panhandle of florida, north into georgia.
incredible season, it is not over yet. >> 2020, tom sater, thank you very much. we'll have more on the storm later in the program. the latest on the bizarre, terrifying plot to kidnap the michigan governor and the silence on the trump administration on the arrest. o . or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424.
six of seven men arrested. a total of 13 charged of a joint operation of the fbi. sarah sidner in michigan for us tonight. you have been covering this doing a wonderful job. you met with someone who knew one of the suspects well. what did he tell you? >> reporter: yeah, brian titus own a vacuum shop here. he was surprised that the fbi raided his business because the person who was living there who was a long time friend of his had been living there for a while after he said got kicked out of his girlfriend's place so we give him a place to stay. his dogs were there with him. turns out he's one of the leaders according to the fbi of this plot.
>> he was staying in the basement. >> reporter: how do you get there? >> right there. it is not a secret passing way. they're talking about the wood. the reason why i put it because in case the dog had to go so where and so he would not twwet the chapter. he was only staying there until november. >> reporter: why did you decide it was time for him to go? did you notice any activities? >> he buys stuff from amazon. i was not stupid. >> reporter: was he buying ammo? >> he was buying like ar-15 and food. i am not stupid, i was in the marines. i told him he had to go. >> reporter: but before he actually left, he says they arrested him and 12 others.
he talked about the plot and the fbi talked about this plot centered around trying to kidnap governor gretchen whitmer here, there were other things that is so disturbing beyond the kidnapping plot and the fbi saying they're planning to storm the capitol and they're planning to potentially using explosives that they had actually fashioned some explosives and they were talking about potential blowing up a bridge to try to keep police from being able to get to the governor when they tried to kidnap her according to the complaint. and they talk about some of the things these men were saying to each other. certainly 13 men now are charged in this case and some with state terrorism charges and some with federal conspiracy. very serious charges and a really scary time obviously for those in the government here.
some of the democrats are saying they are terrified that the laws still allowed to bring guns into the state capital. we saw pictures of people standing and trying get into the capitol. they want that to change but so far the law stands. >> sarah sidner, terrific reporting. really appreciate it. the trump administration was heavily arrested into the effort of the fbi. william barr has not commented on this. the only thing president trump has said publicly other than to condemn governor whitmer for her remarks criticizing him wondering why he had not been thanked. our miles taylor and chief of staff in the trump administration and cnn's analyst, andy, i want to start with you. the attorney general barr
traveled up and down the country and to appear in public for any event that had to do with condemning and cracking down the left violence. three things he appeared in urban violence as well but not only did he not travel toll michigan to be on camera here, he has not briefed the public at all, has not said anything in public about a plot that kidnapped a sitting governor, what does it tell you? >> thanks for having me. it is really puzzling. i can tell you from having the experience overseeing these sorts of investigations for years and having to breathe on this, there are no way the attorney general was not briefed on this investigation as it went forward. the fbi worked the case which the governor was an attending
that did not tell the attorney general - the only possibility that he was unwilling or unable to come forward and talk about this yesterday. >> this is the type of case where the attorney general would travel to the site of the arrest and appear on stage and a press conference with the u.s. attorneys. it is very strange that we have not heard anything from attorney general barr the last day or so. >> you say maybe unwilling. miles, why not take the opportunity to condemn domestic terror? why not take a public stand against this type of extremism for the attorney general or the president? the president criticizing governor whitmer, what do we make of this?
>> it is puzzling. this is the type of case that we expected would ultimately would happen if domestic terrorism went went unchecked in this country. director mccabe was here. we saw the terror threat ticking up. we are worried of the same remote radicalization that we saw of isis overseas with individuals who are motivated by racial premisupremacists groups. some of these individuals would potentially be some of their supporters. they were worried politically it could be know bill barr going and appearing publicly to talk about
this and instead you had the president dunking on the governor of michigan on twitter instead of dealing with this problem. that's a really big concern. the president's campaign message right now is law and order. what we have seen right now in donald trump's which we were consistently frustrated by at the department of homeland security, which is now resulting in the things like case that was announced yesterday. >> miles when you raised the concern about extremist groups like this, the terror groups, what did the white house say? >> point blank, they told us not to talk about it. as we were developing the white house's counterterrorism strategy, which i was intimately involving in strategyizing. there was a clear signal sent
from aides that reported directsly to the president that it should not be a focus. that doesn't stop either director mccabe's bureau or our department from focusing on the threat. we focused on the threat and we doubled down on the threat. but the problem is, if the white house itself is not going to coordinator the department and agencies to step up with more people, more resources, more attention then the threat is not going get the level of response that it deserves and it didn't. >> andy, what do these extremist groups the would-be domestic terrorists hear in the silence from william barr? what do they hear in the president's unwillingness to openly condemn this type of extremism? >> you cannot over state how domestic extremists and all extremists are watching closely the media coverage of the threat, the media coverage of the things they and their groups are doing. they are looking exactly for
things like the communications they are suddenly getting from the president now. i am convinced that people on the far right, the right leaning extremist groups, the supremacist groups and the boogaloo boys, they are watching the president's very careful but clear desire to avoid condemning them at any turn and they see that as a signal of approval. they see that as a signal of wee finally have one on our side. you saw the reaction from the proud boys the day after the president gave them a shout out in the debate. it is a very positive energizing thing that they get and that is exactly the sort of trigger that could cause some of the groups to act. >> and andy i'm sure you still have friends who are in the service and the fbi. what are they telling you about their concerns for the next 25 days or maybe longer for the election? >> john, people are buckling in
and getting ready for a very bumpy ride. you know, look, we had great concerns about how particularly the white supremacist community would react to the inauguration of president obama, our first black president and so we did a lot of work in the months leading up to the inauguration, months leading up to the election and the inauguration to watch those folks that we were concerned about to make sure that we got in front of any terrorist planning. i'm quite sure the fbi is doing that cexact sort of work with these heavily armed militia groups and the right leaning kind of white supremist organizations. the sad fact is, there are very, very many of them. and michigan alone we have heard numbers in the two to three dozens of organized malish a group just in the state of michigan and they are all over the country now. this is a big challenge for the fbi, and partners at dhs and
other agencies to stay in front. >> it was a point that miles was making and the attorney general was making to me this morning. the scary thing is the 13 individuals not alone, not at all. thank you both. great to see you tonight. >> thanks, john. >> all right had, we have a live update from the gulf coast when we come back. one day
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to buy themselves a new law. to deny drivers the rights they deserve. no sick leave. no workers' comp. no unemployment benefits. vote no on the deceptive uber, lyft, doordash prop 22. one ride california doesn't want to take. we end tonight's program with one more look at hurricane delta, you are looking at live pictures right there, it made land fall a short time ago, the number of those without power increased substantially, now more than 330,000 people in louisiana and texas without power. let's go back to martin savage, live in lake charles. martin, checking back in with you, still just as wet. how are things looking? >> you know, john, i thought that when we would come back, i would be able to tell you things
have eased up a lot in lake charles, they have not. the winds are still howling. still getting blasted by rain. of course, this is an area that got slammed six week ags by hurricane laura, significantly weakening and damaging structures and trees. they only just kbgot the power back and now they have lost power again. we don't know about the water systems, that is another issue and many buildings are suffering damage again. the people that made their way back are realizing their homes are in more potential danger. the amazing thing is there's people that think they can go out in the storm. it is hard to imagine what we are going to find given all the debris that was left on the streets by hurricane laura. and that's the real fear. it had been the fear for the officials. it's the fear for those who stayed behind. it all becomes airborne, dangerouses are and potentially deadly. >> it will be hard to sort out the damage from this occur
contain and the damage on the ground from the last one. martin savage. please stay safe. be sure and watch a special saturday issue of cnn's global town hall. around will anchor the program along with dr. sanjay dube that. the news continues let are hand it to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> i'm chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. the proposition before us is clear. trump needs to put up or stay put. the president won't show you a negative covid test. he just gave an interview where he said things that make no sense about his condition. he is clear from covid, but when he hear his had explanation, you will know it is a bunk. now, is there a good roeason fo him to not toe you test results? no, but there's a lot of bad reasons. mainly he wa