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join governor newsom. vote yes on 15. well, good morning. i'm poppy harlow and we have made it to friday. >> we have indeed, a little coffee in tow. i'm jim sciutto. listen, the sad news this morning and the numbers support it, the health crisis in this country is unfortunately getting worse and of course the election is getting closer. on the same day that the u.s. reports 71,000 new coronavirus infections, that is, by the way, the fourth most since the pandemic began, the president again tells the american people that we somehow are rounding the corner. the facts just don't show that. six states saw the highest number of new cases ever on thursday. more than 41,000 americans are now hospitalized and that is the
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most in two months. >> and the white house task force is warning that several regions of the united states, in particular the midwest and the sun belt and a cluster of northern states are showing what they are deeming, quote, early signs of deterioration heading into the winter. today president trump and former vice president joe biden are both on the campaign trail, this is after their debate last night that laid out very different visions for this country moving forward, 11 days from election day and more than 48 million of you have already voted. were minds changed last night on that debate stage? so let's begin there with our jessica dean, she joins us from nashville, tennessee, at the site of last night's campaign. jess, not only did kristen welker just do a phenomenal job, we actually could hear their answers which matters. >> reporter: yeah, it's amazing what a difference that makes, isn't it? you can actually hear them talk back and forth. so here we are 11 days out, as
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you mentioned, from election day, this was biden and trump's final pitch to voters from a debate stage and there was a lot fewer interruptions this time, but plenty of jabs. take a listen. >> in the second and final presidential debate president donald trump and former vice president joe biden clashed over the major issues, with fewer interruptions the two candidates offered their final pitches to voters, including how they will combat coronavirus on a day that saw one of the highest numbers of new u.s. cases since the crisis began. still the president repeated lies about the pandemic. >> it will go away and, as i said, we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner. it going away. >> 220,000 americans dead. you hear nothing else i say tonight, hear this, anyone who is responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying i
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take no responsibility initially, anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the united states of america. >> reporter: trump also used his own recent coronavirus diagnosis to downplay the severity of the disease. >> i was in for a short period of time and i got better very fast. >> he had nothing -- he did virtually nothing and then he gets out of the hospital and he talks about don't worry, it's all going to be over soon. come on. there's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon. >> president trump, your reaction. >> i didn't say over soon. i said we're learning to live with it. we have no choice. we can't lock ourselves up in a base imt like joe does. >> reporter: biden condemning the trump administration's coronavirus response and looked straight to camera speaking directly to voters impacted by the pandemic. >> you folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning, that man or wife
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going to bed tonight and reaching over try to touch their -- hout of habit where their wife or husband was is gone. learning to live with it. come on. we're dying with it. >> reporter: the president continued to paint himself as a washington outsider and biden as a career politician, while the democratic nominee aimed to depict trump as a failed first-term president. >> look, this isn't about -- there is a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey, there is a reason for it. he doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues. it's not about his family and my family, it's about your family and your family is hurting badly. >> ten seconds. >> that's a political statement. let's get off this china thing and then he looks, the family, around the table -- just a typical politician. >> let's talk about more -- >> i'm not a typical politician, that's why i got elected. >> reporter: trump criticized biden's stance on fossil fuels in a move aimed to hurt the former vice president in key swing states like pennsylvania, michigan and ohio. >> i would transition from the oil industry, why he. >> that's a big statement.
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>> that is a big statement because the oil industry pollutes significantly. >> i see. that's a big statement. >> well, if you let me finish the statement because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. over time. and i'd stop giving to the oil industry i'd top giving them federal subsidies. >> reporter: on immigration biden called out the president on the 545 migrant children who have been separated from their parents. >> what happened? parents were ripped -- their kids were ripped from their arms and separated and now they cannot find over 500 sets of those parents and those kids are alone. nowhere to go. nowhere to go. it's criminal. >> they are so well taken care of. they are in facilities that were so clean -- >> but some of them haven't been reunited with their families. >> just ask one question. who built the cages? >> reporter: and when pressed on his record on race, trump made this claim. >> i am the least racist person,
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i can't even see the audience because it's so dark, but i don't care who is in the audience, i'm the least racist person in this room. >> abraham lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we have had in modern history. he pours fuel on every single racist fire. every single one. >> reporter: all right. so the debates are now behind us. president trump heads to florida for a couple of rallies today, vice president biden is in delaware where he's going to give remarks later this afternoon on the coronavirus pandemic and how he intends to respond to it. and, guys, of course, biden's biggest sur gas, president obama, also hitting the campaign trail in weekend, he will be in florida tomorrow. >> jessica dean, good to have you run through all of it for us. a lot to get through. we have a team of folks who know it pretty well to walk us through this. i want to start with you, if i can, dr. amy compton phillips. we know the facts, the country is not rounding the corner, infections are going up, deaths
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are going up. so those are the facts. what difference does it make that the president is not speaking honestly about that to the american people? and granting, acknowledging, that this is getting worse not better? >> well, unfortunately the way the president frames this is all about the book ends, right? that he talks about the beginning of the whole pandemic and about the end game, about the vaccine, and doesn't talk about anything in the middle, in fact, when he talks about the middle he said, you know, the choice is either i go out and continue our life or i have to live in the basement. and that's not the choice. what vice president biden talks about what do we do in the middle not between the book ends but what do we do in the middle? how do we fight during the middle of the pandemic and get the economy back going and get schools going and make sure people have ppe and make sure that we are controlling the spread. so i think what the president is doing is actually a disservice because he makes it feel like
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it's an either/or and vice president biden talks about how do we do both? how do we do and. fight the virus and get our lives back. >> jeff zeleny is reporting that a lot of republicans, advisers, breathed a sigh of relief that the president toned it down, but his statements were so riddled with falsehoods and lies, but one republican adviser told our jeff zeleny finally the president did this, but they also question is it too late. do you think the president did anything last night on the debate stage that actually increased his, you know -- broadened his tent, increased his base, whatever, got him more voters that he didn't already have? >> well, the president was definitely more on message last night than he was a couple weeks ago during the first debate which was widely seen as a debacle even among republicans who didn't like how the president came across with a
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anger tone. he was more subdued, focused on his talking points, did not interrupt biden too much. that may help him with moderate republicans who were on the fence about whether to vote him again who didn't like his tone but liked his policies, he was able to tick through a number of his policies and point out some differences he has with joe bidened on policy areas. he may have helped himself at the margins but in terms of this debate being a major game changer in the race, it didn't appear that is the outcome in part because joe biden got in a large number of attacks on president trump. president trump was not able to reset the focus on to biden's family and these allegations of corruption, which in many cases are unsubstantiated, instead he found himself defending himself as to why he hasn't released his own taxes, why he had this secret bank account in china and he had to defend and explain a number of different issues instead of being on the attack and allowing this hunter biden issue to become the main issue in the race. that was not the outcome of last
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night. for that reason he continues to be behind in the polls, i don't expect that to change very much over the next ten days. >> laura, i wonder if you agree because the big issue following the first debate, right, was it was not so much the issues and the questions and answers, it was the altitude, right, that seemed to alarm republicans. i wonder if in your view the president gave enough to at least skeptical republicans last night that maybe i can live with another four years? >> potentially, jim, but we are talking about a very small piece of the electorate as toluse was saying. there are very few undecided voters left. we're seeing we are about to hit about 50 million votes cast already and there's 11 days to go and democrats have a substantial advantage, "politico" reporting that this morning, we have an analysis that shows they have a massive advantage in terms of who is casting early vote.
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of course, republicans are expecting that a lot of their voters are going to turn out the day of due to the president's attacks on voting by mail, on casting their ballot that way, but i'm skeptical what impact this debate would have, also particularly with voters like college educated white women and college educated white men, which we have seen trump has been losing substantially. i didn't hear any message that could potentially win them over based on my conversations with those voters over the last few weeks. >> on the issue, the key issue right now, not only for the election but for the health of every american on coronavirus, dr. compton phillips, listen to this exchange when the moderator, kristen welker, pushed the president on a vaccine. >> you have said a vaccine is coming soon, within weeks now. your own officials say it could take well into 2021 at the earliest for enough americans to
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get vaccinated and even then they say the country will be wearing masks and distancing into 2022. is your timeline realistic? >> no, i think my timeline is going to be more accurate. i don't know that they are counting on the military the way i do, but we have our generals lined up, one in particular that's the head of logistics and this is a very easy distribution for him. >> i mean, distribution is not going to be easy for a host of reasons we've gone over on this show, complicating it. the states are not ready, they don't have enough money, but he just said, dr. compton phillips, don't believe the cdc's timeline. they said second or third quarter of next year. he said believe me. who should the american people believe this morning? >> the american people should believe the cdc. the cdc understands the complexities that it takes to actually do the logistics of getting the vaccine out, getting it approved, getting it distributed and, by the way, convincing all of those skeptical americans that we have talked about previously to actually get the vaccine. so we need to believe the cdc and glossing over the complexity
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doesn't make it any better. >> toluse, looking ahead here, we have 11 days to go, let's put those figures back up on screen, more than 50 million americans are already voted more than 11 days to election day, that's about a third of some of the projections of what the total likely record breaking vote will be. what are the key moments between now and november 3rd that might still change this race? >> in terms of a large national audience, this last night was the president's biggest chance to change the trajectory of the race. tens of millions of people watching at once most likely. now the president is going to be addressing smaller audiences in a slue of campaign rallies over the next few days. he's going to be going to swing states including ohio, new hampshire, florida, wisconsin, he's holding multiple rallies a day trying to change the trajectory of the race. for joe biden it's a slower
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campaign schedule but he will have a large number of surrogates on the campaign trail including barack obama who is going to be trying to target specific voters. i would expect some of these events over the next couple of weeks to really impact the way people are approaching this race, the people who are still undecided, as laura said, not that many people are undecided and haven't voted yet, but for those who are there there's going to be a highly motivated target effort to try to go after those voters to get them to turn out. president trump will be traveling across the country trying to do that as well. i do expect last night to have been the biggest stage for both of these candidates to make their closing pitch but they will continue to make that pitch over a smaller stage over the next ten days. >> laura, immigration was finally a topic in this debate and it's a really important issue and comes at a critical time when we know that 545 children right now are without their parents still from the zero tolerance policy. what is the most important thing you think voters heard on that,
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learned from both candidates on that last night? >> right. well, as you said, it was the first time that we really heard them debate that topic, which is surprising given that it was one of the biggest issues in 2016 pushed by trump when he talked about building a border wall. last night when trump was asked about those 545 children and what he would do to reunite them if he were reelected, he didn't give an answer. he diverted and went to attacking obama-era policies, which biden said was a mistake in terms of the mass deportations during the first part of obama's administration, it was something that biden was pushed on a lot during the primary, he had said it was a mistake during the primary and a lot of those liberal groups that were pushing him on it are now ones that are working for him in states like arizona to get out latino voters. but, again, i think one of the biggest takeaways from that
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exchange last night was the fact that the president didn't provide any forward-looking plan for how to handle these children and reuniting them and was not apologetic at all about the family separation policy. >> and he is a father. i just -- can you imagine if those were your children? thank you, guys, very much. dr. amy compton phillip, laura and toluse. stay with us. the fda approves the drug remdesivir to treat patients hospitalized with covid-19. president trump himself received the drug but the world health organization has cast doubt on how effective it is on treating covid. more details on that ahead. and this, we watched the debate with voters from the key battleground state of north carolina. have a listen. >> who do you think won the debate? how many of you think donald trump won this debate? no hands being raised for that. >> notable moment. what moments from the debate
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welcome back. it was something that the former vice president joe biden knew was coming, taking on claims from the president and his supporters that he took money from foreign interests and, again, with no evidence president trump attacked joe biden on just that. so here was the former vice president's response. >> on the election security. >> i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. release your tax return or stop talking about corruption. you know his character, you know my character. you know our reputations for honor and telling the truth. i am anxious to have this -- >> all right. with us now is mike rodgers, former republican house intelligence chairman. good to have you here, chairman rodgers, and toluse olorunnipa is back with us. if i could begin with you, chairman rodgers. i think it's important to note here that a month ago we got the results of a republican-led senate investigation into a lot
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of this that found into evidence that mr. biden, former vice president, engaged in -- cute dog, by the way, whoever's that is -- wrongdoing over his son's business dealings. in fact, it said, quote, the extent to which hunter biden's role on the burisma board affected policy toward ukraine is not clear. how should all republicans be responding to these repeated unfounded attacks on the biden family on this specific issue? >> yeah, i mean, listen, in politics today it's allegations seem to be all the lure. what worries me is, listen, if you're going to challenge someone's character, i don't care if it's donald trump or biden or any other political official, i think you're obligated to get it right. people are just trying to create this air of something that isn't -- wasn't appropriate. so the odd thing about this is that having a bank account in china through a legitimate
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business is not a crime. as the democrats are saying about trump. having a business meeting about the possibility of doing business in china is not a crime. nor is it in and of itself inappropriate. so i think it's really important as we go through this, and i know political operatives, you know, their heads would pop off over this, need to get it right. if you are going to attack someone's character get it right. i have seen no information that says that there is anything untoward in those conversations, at least as of today. >> i would just note that the president didn't disclose in the financial disclosure forms the chinese bank account. maybe not criminal, but since we don't have the taxes he points to the disclosure forms and it's not in there, but you are so right, i mean, it was interesting, jim, in the lesley stahl interview that the president posted he's like why aren't you guys talking more about the obamas and investigating more of this. she said because we're "60 minutes" and we have to verify things, right?
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>> and joe biden noted did he release his tax returns which if they were filed correctly would have shown such income. chairman rodgers, if i could go to again on another false claim by the president last night. the president claimed that both russia and iran do not want him to be president, that their preference is joe biden. i will play those claims because it's important to hear them and then let's talk about what the truth is. have a listen. >> john ratcliffe who is fantastic, dni, he said the one thing that's common to both of them, they both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to russia, between the sanctions, nobody tougher than me on russia, between the sanctions, between all of what i've done with nato. >> that's false. the intelligence, in fact, shows, as released and detailed in august by the president's own appointee, leading the group that tracks this sort of thing, that russia's intention
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primarily is to denigrate vice president biden. there is a deliberate effort by the president and his administration to play down the russia threat again four years later, mike rodgers. god knows why. tell us why it's important that they won't on front this publicly as the facts show. >> it's really important that the intelligence community both under obama and trump also came out and said that the russians at least had some preference. it is important to know, however, that believe me, the russians aren't for -- listen, if they think that trump gets elected and they continue the chaos, they are not going to get any better at this. they don't like america, they don't like american politics, they are going to keep up their maligned activities. this is important because you have to ask the question are you doing everything you possibly can to push back the russian interference? remember, the fbi just came out recently, i think it was director wray in a speech
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himself and said, guess what, the russians actually got into voting networks, took voter registration information. that's concerning because what they're going to try to do -- remember, this is what they call perception hacking -- they want to give americans the perception that something isn't exactly as it appears in the eye election and that sows chaos, that gets us at each other's throats and what they really want to do, the russians, in this case, now the iranians, chinese are also engaged in this now, is get americans not to like americans and one good way to do that is in a very contentious election, make sure that people don't believe in the results. that's what i'm worried about in all of this. >> toluse, let me get you to weigh in on the north korea conversation last night which i think was really important and i'm really glad the issue came up because you had the moderator press joe biden on the fact that, look, north korea conducted foreign nuclear tests during your administration and pressed trump, you say
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everything is rosy with kim jong-un but they did roll out their biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile during your administration. what's the most important thing voters learned about either candidate on this key issue? >> yeah, i also thought it was important that that came up and it was important that americans know that north korea continues to pursue its nuclear program despite the love letters that have been traded between president trump and kim jong-un and even during the obama-biden administration it was very clear that that nuclear program wasps advancing and all of the various strategies that were put in place all the way going back to the bush administration and the clinton administration have not stopped north korea from advancing. so i thought it was important that that issue was brought forward to the american people. president trump has tried to say he's happy to meet with kim jong-un and they have a great relationship and that's kept us from war but it hasn't kept the north koreans from pursuing their nuclear ambitions and moving forward and advancing. it's not a win for president trump to be able to say he's met
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with kim jong-un, a dictator and brutal thug, multiple times. it's also not a win for biden to say that he would do something different because we do know that during his eight years in the white house there was not the kind of progress that you might want out of a two-term president in curtailing north korea's nuclear ambitions. i thought it was important that the american people got to see both candidates' vision with the knowledge that the man has had an opportunity to address this and neither has been successful. >> listen, sad fact is successive admissions of both parties failed to curtail north korea's nuclear ambitions. tro and mike rodgers, thanks to both of you. join us for live coverage the way cnn can bring it to you from the first votes to the critical count, understand what's happening in your state and across the country. election night in america. our special coverage starts tuesday november 3rd at 4:00 p.m. eastern. all right. we do have this breaking news this morning, the u.s. embassy
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in turkey is now warning of possible terrorist attacks and kidnappings against americans. >> listen to this, cnn senior international correspondent arwa damon joins us from istanbul. arwa, how alarmed, how concerned are u.s. officials and do we know where or what group these threats are coming from? >> reporter: we don't know that at this stage, jim. we have asked the u.s. embassy and consulate press officers here if this was somehow related to the more recent strikes that have been taking place by the u.s. in idlib province against al qaeda targets or al qaeda affiliates but they would not comment on that. the only thing they will do is refer us back to the statement that they put out that is urging not just u.s. nationals but all foreigners to exercise caution. what the u.s. has done at this stage is shut down visa services and services for american nationals temporarily suspending
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them in its embassy and also in all of its consulates. what is a bit more interesting about this particular statement, though, that the u.s. embassy did put out is that it says that they have received these credible reports of potential terrorist attacks and kidnappings against u.s. citizens and foreign nationals in istanbul including against the u.s. consulate general. we don't usually in these types of statements get this kind of specificity. they are not telling all americans and foreigners to stay at home, they are just saying that they should exercise caution. be aware of your surroundings, be vigilant, avoid crowded areas. remember in recent years this hasn't been the case but it is not too long ago that turkey was subjected to numerous attacks by isis and other terrorist organizations, jim and poppy. >> covered some of those myself and i know you did, too, arwa. >> arwa, thank you for that important reporting. coronavirus cases are spiking in 32 states.
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in mass incarceration of black and brown communities. the shame is on all of us. i'm working to right the wrongs of injustice.
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ending cash bail. ending the war on drugs. decriminalizing sex work, and passing major sentencing reform legislation. but until we reimagine community safety and end police brutality, we must keep working to reform our racist criminal justice system that's shameful to us all. so look at this, more than 71,000 new covid cases were confirmed in the country just yesterday. >> yeah, sadly the fourth worst day since the pandemic began, 32 states sadly seeing a spike, six of them had their worst day of new infections ever. goodness. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is here. elizabe elizabeth, what's behind this combination of factors, fatigue,
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people being indoors more? why are we seeing this? >> i think you just named the two big ones, jim. that people are having fatigue, it is tough to keep up these masures, although it is so, so important and also as the weather gets colder more people are going indoors. so what used to be a picnic or barbecue where you could be outside and spaced apart now those people are all in one person's living room and that is not good even if you are wearing a mask that is problematic. let's take a look at these trends. if you look at this map you can see 32 states are in orange or dark red. that's a lot of states in orange and that means that those states are going up, the cases are going up, more last week than the previous week. the yellow ones the numbers are stable. there's only one state headed in the right direction, only one state where the numbers are going down and that's oregon. now let's take a look, six states are showing their highest daily case count ever, six states, ohio, indiana, i will
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loi, oklahoma, montana and utah, more cases than they have ever had during this pandemic. and it's not just a matter of cases, it's also sadly a matter of deaths. if you take a look 28 states their death rates are going up, ten of those states are going up by more than 50%, deaths are going up by more than 50% in ten states, the yellow states the death rates are holding steady, the green states the deaths are, thank goodness, going down. jim, poppy. >> elizabeth, a major move by the fda yesterday and that is authorizing the use of remdesivir for patients hospitalized are coronavirus. people may know this because the president took it. how big is that authorization, but also is there enough supply for anyone who needs it in the country right now and how expensive is it? like can everyone afford it? >> those are great questions because i will tell you the approval from the fda in many ways is a technicality. it got an emergency approval back in may and now it's getting sort of the full regular fda
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approval. however, there are a couple of questions here. one is about efficacy. in the meantime the world health organization came out with a study that was bigger than the original study that was done that got remdesivir its approval, the new one says it doesn't work. the old one said, oh, it cuts a few days off of a hospital stay. this new world health organization one says it just doesn't work. gilead the company that makes remdesivir says that w.h.o. study, this he poke holes in it, still a concern that the drug is too pricey, also concerns that there isn't enough of this drug to go around for everybody. poppy, jim? >> yeah, i mean, those are two big issues for folks who might rely on it. elizabeth, thanks a lot for the reporting. have a good weekend. so in an hour we're going to be joined by a very important guest, health and human services secretary alex azar will be with us, obviously leading the country's charge on handling covid. >> what are they going to do about this surge going forward? another story in hour, north
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all right. the battleground state of north carolina where more than 2.4 million voters in that state alone have already cast their ballots. >> it's amazing and we're seeing this across the country. polls in north carolina show democrats maintaining a narrow lead in early voting across that state, but were the undecideds, the few remaining undecideds swayed by last night's debate? gary tuchman asked undecideds. >> reporter: four of them
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identify as democrats, three as republicans, four as independents, all of these north carolinians still not sure which candidate they want to be president. we watched the final debate with them, the group leaving no doubt who they think did best. who do you think won the debate? how many of you think donald trump won this debate? no hands being raised for that. how many of you think joe biden won the debate? one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. how many of you feel it was a draw? two. two for a draw, zero for trump, nine for biden. so why did this group feel joe biden did so well? james voted for donald trump in 2016 but is now concerned about the nation's lack of unity. >> what do you think the most important moment of this debate was? >> definitely when joe biden was talking about that he's going to be an american president because donald trump has made it clear that he doesn't support the blue states. >> reporter: john also voted for
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president trump in 2016. joe biden's debate comments about american families around the dinner table meant quite a bit to him. >> and trump responded with some mockery of that and i think for me politics are about relationships and people and this is all about the american family so that was quite revealing and disturbing for me to hear. >> reporter: terry voted for hillary clinton four years ago but has been undecided because she did not like joe biden's role in the 1994 crime bill, but after the debate, she feels differently. >> so what resonated with me was the fact that joe biden owned the crime bill and his role in the crime bill, and that he owned the fact that they made a mistake. >> reporter: nathan voted for donald trump in 2016 and is one of the two who feels the debate was a draw. he says the economy must continue opening. >> both of them want to open it, i think we need to open faster than slower, not wait for the
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coronavirus to go away. >> reporter: so that was an important point? >> it is important. >> reporter: that the president made? >> yes. >> reporter: when it comes to the major question are any of the 11 now ready to make a decision on who should be president, no response was more interesting than this one from harrison. >> well, i'd like to vote for joe biden, almost totally, except for the fact that he is going to increase abortion access in america and so if, you know -- i will feel a little bit safer about that not happening if amy barrett is on the supreme court. >> if she is confirmed you will vote for biden most likely? >> yeah. >> reporter: so how many of these 11 voters are ready to cast their votes following this debate? the answer is seven. of the seven of you who say you're ready to cast your votes how many of you are ready to vote for donald trump? zero. how many are ready to vote for joe biden? all seven. as far as the other four, the debates are over, but their indecisiveness is not.
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gary tuchman, cnn, davidson, north carolina. >> what a fascinating piece by gary. thank you for that reporting. so ahead for us, there are republicans that are pointing to one particular moment in the debate last night that they think could hurt joe biden in certain states. we will tell you what that is next. you navigate what comes next. at university of phoenix, relevant life experience and eligible transfer credits can help you earn your degree faster and for less. see how much you can save at phoenix.edu.
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welcome back. so there are some republicans really pointing to this moment in last night's debatine, let's play the tape and we'll explain after. >> a transition from the illness, yes. >> that is a big statement. >> that is a big statement, because the oil industry pollutes significantly. >> i see. >> that's a -- >> that's a big statement. >> if you let me finish the statement. it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. over time. i'd stop giving to the oil industry. i'd stop giving them federal subsidies. >> joe biden later clarified his stance but this could impact him with voters in key states. bill wier joins us now.
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you're deep into the climate change issue here. tell us about the political implications. >> reporter: it's interesting. ever since hillary clinton lost coal country and was tagged as a warrior against those workers, the biden campaign has been careful not to scare away pennsylvania frackers, for anyone that cares, it's no choice. in planet trump there's no fires out west, miami is not flooding, no experts telling us this is the beginning of a new normal. the reality is on planet earth, a renewable energy company was more valuable than exxon mobile. solar projects are now perhaps the cheapest form of energy ever invented. so we're on a tipping point right now and the biden campaign is trying to temper any big
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seismic changes that might scare people away saying it'll take time but there's not a lot of time. he wants to be net zero for the whole country and for perspective it took about 100 years to lay out the energy grid, by some estimates that will have to be done two and a half times over to make it a smart grid. so it was a clear choice last night between biden who calls this as existential threat and tempers the nightmare with the prospect of dream jobs and president trump with lies and insistence we stay on old, dirty fuels. >> the president made a claim last night that i heard vice president pence make before that is not true saying the u.s. has the cleanest air and water. i think it's like 16th on the
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list, right? >> reporter: exactly. and it's getting worse since this administration dismantled the enforcement argument of the environmental protection agency. and as a point of comparison he said look at india, china, russia, they're filthy without any acknowledgement that the reason our air is cleaner is as a result of the epa and the clean air act. but it's been the republican platform for a long time that all environmental regulation is bad. but you're seeing it, especially in communities of color. that was what brought up the candid moment of joe biden transitioning away from fossil fuel, which everybody is saying but the fact you would say it outloud is news. he talked about growing up near oil refineries and having oil on
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the windshield. that's when trump pounced and biden said we have to get off the fuels. >> remarkable what the public statement means about where the debate has moved in the country. bill, thank you very much. the same day the united states saw the biggest number of new coronavirus cases in several months, president trump said we as the country are turning the corner and the virus will go away. what do the facts say? project m. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database so you can start hiring right away. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home.
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a very good friday morning to you, it's friday, i'm jim sciutto. >> what a week it has been i'm poppy harlow. so glad you're here. we have breaking news this morning. more than 50 million of you have voted already. and today both candidates are on the trail. they are trying to win over any holdouts and undecided voters. this just hours after americans saw two different versions of what these men see as the future of the country on the debate stage last night the president said we are rounding the corner on coronavirus. >> the numbers belie that. they prove otherwise. the president's own task force even warning that several regions of the country are showing, quote, early signs of deterioration headed into winter. six states seeing their most new infections ever. on thursday. those are the states there. >> yep. and those are the facts. with us now political

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