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business, without proof. of course, they're going to believe it. i'm not seeing the pictures. that's my point. >> you got to turn to a different network, then. find the pictures. you know, they're out there. >> no, they're not. >> okay, they're not out there. >> you are talking about pictures of them boarding up what they're doing. that office was afraid of the people outside, who were screaming and yelling. you had courts -- >> because they weren't letting both sides come in and review ballots. >> it was litigated and found, multiple times, to have not been a fundamental compromise of any right of survey. and you know this. so, my point is, will it end now for you guys? will you get back to just dealing with the pandemic, instead of creating one? >> well, we've been working, all the time, trying to come to agreement on this. so, i guess, we won't have that to worry about, as much. but, you know, we'll -- we'll still see where this develops. until january 20th, it may not be over with. you know, we know the electors are going to do their business
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on the 14th. should some other thing come -- i agree, the ground's getting smaller for this conversation. but, you know, i don't know what it would be, at this point. >> me, either. because it's supposed to be over. >> there is a lot of people in the country that certainly want us to keep asking the questions because what it really comes down to, chris, is people want to have confidence in their elections. >> if you want them to have confidence, don't lie to them about what happened in the election. we will be better off. but i do respect you for this, congressman. thank you for coming on to make your case. you were the only one. i hope it gets much more progressive and productive, very soon. >> i am sicilian so i figured i had to be on the show. >> merry christmas. do your job. take care. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d lemon starts right now. >> those pictures he is talking about, debunked. >> oh, no, no, no. there were pictures. people were afraid when they were working in the polls. looking through the windows and seeing enraged people outside. >> no, that's not what he is
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talking about. he is talking about the surveillance video from georgia that shows packing up that has been debunked by the secretary of state. they have explained what that video is. it is nothing to do with stealing votes or not counting votes or any of that. it's all bs. >> i agree. he said pictures. but i agree. >> it has nothing to do with anything. and they keep pretending that things are going on that's not. here is the bottom line, right, and we both can agree on this. look at what we're covering tonight, right? approval of a drug. the supreme court saying, no, reject. it's time for america to come together. this -- we are at a very critical moment in this democracy because of a pandemic. a once-in-a-century or lifetime health crisis, right? and because we have a president, who is really bonkers, who is trying to prove something that is not true. it is, as you say, a lawsuit in search of evidence. they filed a lawsuit, and there is no evidence of anything.
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that's why tonight matters, chris. >> this is huge. you got a conservative court, 6-3, three judges that he put on there. and they said, in no uncertain terms. sure, they could have written along opinions saying why it's wrong. i think less is more. you have no case. >> you have no case and the two people they say, alito and thomas. no, they didn't. they said you have the right to bring it or file it. >> it's a totally separate issue. they have a beef about jurisdiction of the supreme court. >> it's about procedure. >> they said they would offer no relief here. period. >> here's the thing, chris. because i want to bring sanjay in on this because we have two big stories tonight. the fda, moments ago, officially authorizing the pfizer coronavirus vaccine for emergency use. sanjay, talk to -- talk to us, chris and i, here. i'm glad that you're here with us. it's such a big step. you've gone through this report. did anything in there, since you -- i know you've had time to go through it more since you did with chris. what else stood out to you?
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what stands out to you when you look at this? >> you know, i was looking for any red flags. you know, something that was going to be of concern. but pretty much, the document talks about the rationale for granting this emergency-use authorization. which is -- emergency use authorization, different than approval. they are still going to be collecting data at least for a couple of years. they are going to have an adverse-event reporting system. they are going to continue collecting that data. i think, for consumers, i think the two most interesting things were for people who have had a history of some sort of severe, allergic reaction in the past. they are basically saying don't take this vaccine. there was some back and forth on that. i want to get the language right here. but they said don't take it. some had said, look, can you pretreat with benadryl or something like that? or just make sure people have an epipen close by. they are being cautious here. it's not going to be recommended for people who have had a severe allergic reaction. as far as pregnant women go, remember, pregnant women were
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not part of the trial. there were 23 women who became pregnant during the trial. so, they had a little bit of data. what they have said is, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, discuss this with your healthcare provider. basically, saying, figure out the risk-reward. if -- if you're a high-risk person, if you are working in a high-risk environment, for some reason, whatever it may be, then you may lean toward the side of the vaccine. but you got to be educated there just isn't a lot of data there. that data's going to be collected. you'll remember, i will just tell quickly. one of the points at the advisory meeting yesterday was 16 and 17-year-olds, specifically. >> the ages, right. >> there was only about -- the ages. and -- and basically, you had -- i looked at the data -- you had 103 people, total, that were 16 or 17 years old, out of the 44,000 that were in the trial. so, not very much data. some had argued you should just authorize this for people 18 and over, not 16 and over. and the fda, according to this document, sounds like they are sticking with 16 and older.
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so, they're going to be much lower down on the list, in terms of getting the vaccine because there's going to be triage. healthcare workers, people in nursing homes. it's going to be a while before 16 and 17-year-olds can even get this. and by that time, there may be more data collected. but, look, it as i told chris l hour, i mean, i can't believe we are having this conversation right now. here we are, whatever, ten -- ten months after the sequence for the virus was actually identified. we have -- we have an authorized vaccine. hiv-aids, 40 years, we still don't have a vaccine. some vaccines take a quarter of a century to make. you know, so this is -- it is a remarkable day. tough day, in terms of the overall numbers, but a great day for science. >> chris, you know what the number one thing is -- you know what -- i'm sure people ask you when they -- they see you out. when is this vaccine coming? i know there is a whole bunch of procedural things, right? both of you. people want to know, when does
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that shot go into my arm? right? >> they are going to get frustrated because, part of it has to do with what's happening in congress. they have, i think, sanjay will tell me if i am wrong, but i think it's 6 billion earmarked right now for manufacturing needs. which, my understanding is that, on the manufacturing side within government, what they know, they've already pre-spent than money, and still need more to get where they need to be in terms of demand. see, so, them delaying right now is creating a potential backlog. we are assuming people will be reluctant to take this vaccine because you have, you know, the polls and people don't trust trump. i think, once it starts to roll out and people realize it's their best bet of not getting this, they are going to start to want it, all over this country. and you will have two huge issues. one, you won't have enough because you got double shots on this stuff. and, two, you will have states, don, making choices about who gets it. within medical workers, within
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hospitals, and where those hospitals are, and which people. and we're going to have to police that, very carefully. or you'll have big problems. >> you're right. but again, to my point, the bottom line is, that's what everyone wants to know. they know people play around. >> months. months. people like you and me, months. >> when is that going to go into people's arms, sanjay, that's the question? >> yeah, so, you know, we're going to see vaccine actually being administered, you know, this week. you know, almost for certain. about 3 million doses are going to be distributed, now. >> for the vast majority of people, though? >> no. >> no. no. for -- so, let me put it to you like this. we may have these graphics. i don't know. showing you how much of the various doses from the various companies have been ordered. right now, we are talking about pfizer. so, and a hundred million doses of this have been ordered they got about 7 million, 6 and a half million, that have already been manufactured. they are going to keep manufacturing this stuff.
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moderna is also manufacturing and they're going to have this whole process we are talking about may rinse and repeat because you have the eu application there. after that, two other companies, astrazeneca and johnson & johnson that are in phase three trials. i talked to, they will probably apply for emergency-use authorizations, by the end of january. >> but, sanjay, who gets this vaccine, first? second? you know, third? the people coming up to don and me and you and asking when they are going to get it. they are nonessential worker, non-medical-worker, healthy people. they are after medical workers, long-term care people, people who are medically fragile. you know, there's going to be time here. >> that's -- that's on into the spring, wrong? >> at least. >> i think so. if you just take healthcare workers and people in long-term care facilities, we know they are in the first group.
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that is roughly 20 million people, in this country. 40 million doses, right? everything, multiply times two. that's what we know, for sure. the cdc has already said that. they are going to be meeting tomorrow, by the way. they moved up their meeting from sunday, to tomorrow now, at 11:00. i think one of the big questions is going to be, okay, we know about that first group. but what about the second group? is it essential workers, like you are saying, chris? is it going to be people over a certain age and with pre-existing conditions? should they come next? you know, that -- that -- we'll see what the recommendations are from the cdc. and then, we'll see how the states take it. but one of those groups will be the next group. if you are talking about young, healthy people, people under the age of 50, no medical problems, yeah, you are probably talking about the spring. and the overall number of doses that are necessary in this country, you know, depending on what percentage of the country decides to take it. you're talking 600, 700 million doses we are going to need. pfizer has 100 million. we now know, moderna, if they get authorized, there's 200 million. the federal government bought an
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extra 100 million today so there's 300 million. astrazeneca. oxford/astrazeneca, if that gets authorized, the government's bought 300 million of those doses. that was their biggest bet, probably. johnson & johnson, another 100 million. so, that's where the vaccine is likely coming from but in terms of when you can actually get the shot, i think for people who didn't fall into one of these high-risk categories i just described, you are talking sort of march-april sort of timeframe. i'm really anxious to see how this distribution goes over the next couple of days. this is a huge logistical challenge. they seem like they are well prepared but we're going to follow it closely. >> should be about the fall, don, in terms of when we hit that critical mass. >> as i said, we got a couple big, breaking news stories to get to. chris, thanks for sticking around. and i figure you could help us with this, helping the american
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people understand. >> huge night. >> it's a huge night and they won on two fronts. i am going to talk about the second one, coming up now. sanjay, i may have to get back to you. chris, you are out of here. >> i love you, don lemon. i love you, sanjay. big night. >> this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. this is such a big night for news for two major, breaking stories. okay? so, we have been talking about the emergency approval of the first covid vaccine, that is extremely important. phew. light at the end of the tunnel, right? but, the second story. it has to do with our democracy. with the republic. with our election. and the breaking news is this. ya lost, mr. president, again. the supreme court, delivering a slap in the face to this desperate, un-democratic, last-ditch attempt to throw out the votes of millions of americans. now, here's what the court wrote, for the record. okay? it said, the state of texas'
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motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under article iii of the constitution. texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections. all other pending motions are dismissed as moot. so, let me give you the translation here. that was legalese. the translation is it's over. you don't even get to file this case, let alone argue it, let alone win it. ova. not over, ova. you lost at the supreme court. you lost the popular vote. you lost the electoral vote. and you lost multiple recounts. here's what sources are telling cnn. that the president thought that he actually had a shot, this time. but, even the justices he put on the supreme court had no interest in allowing his desperate, legal bids to continue. the two justices, thomas and
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alito. and i want you to listen to this very closely, right? because it is being spun, in other places, as if, oh, well, they were -- they wanted to -- they wanted to -- it's not true, okay? thomas and alito, who -- who would have at least -- they would have allowed the lawsuit to be filed. they were not appointed by trump. they were already on the court, when they took office. and they, specifically, said and i quote here, again, it is really important. they say, i would, therefore, grant -- therefore, grant the motion to file the bill of complaint, but would not grant other relief. and i express no view on any other issue. so, yeah. what they're saying is you can file it, and then you can go home. so much for his hopes that the judges he thought as, you know, his own would save him. didn't happen. here it is. >> i think this will end up in the supreme court. and i think it's very important
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that we have nine justices. >> we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court. we want all voting to stop. >> we should be heard by the supreme court. something has to be able to get up there. otherwise, what is the supreme court? >> what is the supreme court? they are the people telling you to hang it up. and here's the message, tonight, to those 18 attorneys general and those 126 house republicans who signed onto the president's doomed attempt to overturn our election. you'll never be able to walk away from this. hang your head, in shame. tried to kill our democracy. this will go down on your permanent record. so, how do those republicans feel, now? those 126 house republicans, who supported this president's fight to throw out millions and millions of votes in four swing states, just because they went for joe biden, and not for him. those elected officials you see,
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there, their names are up on your screen right now. they got where they are because of voters, right? they all won their elections. now, they have the privilege of joining trump in losing his. way to turn yourselves from winners, to losers. and you can see how they are going to -- to try to back away here, right? congressman bruce westerman, who signed onto the president's attempt to steal the election. trying to do just that, tonight. tweeting, i signed on to an amicus brief yesterday, encouraging the court to consider the case -- the case's constitutional question. scotus re je scotus rejected the case. going on to say, i also believe, at this point, electors will vote monday and issue certificates of a vote, in which joe biden will win the electoral college. the only milestone left in completing the election process will be congress counting the votes on january 6th. the casting of electoral votes will end a hotly-contested election, and we should come
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together, as americans, to work together for the future of the country. congressman, if you cared at all about the future of our country, if you cared at all about americans coming together, you never would have signed onto this president's blatant attempt to steal the election. but, you did and you signed on, along with 125 other republicans. they've shown americans who they are. in the wise words of angela maya -- maya angelou, excuse me, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. believe them, and don't forget what they said. listen to this. it's from a scathing editorial in the orlando sentinel, apologizing for endorsing congressman michael walz, who supported the president's flailing, last-ditch efforts to undo the will of the people. and i quote here. we had no idea. had no way of knowing, at the time, that walz was not
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committed to democracy. during our endorsement interview with the incumbent congressman, we didn't think to ask would you support an effort to throw out the votes of tens of millions of americans in states to overturn a presidential election and hand it to the person who lost, donald trump? oh, it's somebody's bad, all right. those 126 house republicans will never live this down, and they shouldn't live it down. they signed onto this president's doomed attempt to steal our election. putting the foundation of our democracy at risk. and they had no right to do that. i want you to listen to senator chris murphy on the senate floor, today. >> right now, the most serious attempt to overthrow our democracy, in the history of this country, is underway. those who are pushing to make
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donald trump president for a second term, no matter the outcome of the election, are engaged in a treachery against their nation. you cannot, at the same time, love america and hate democracy. but, as we speak, a whole lot of flag-waving republicans are nakedly trying to invalidate millions of legal votes because that is the only way that they can make donald trump president, again. it is the only way they can make donald trump president, again, because he didn't win. >> hmm. he is right. they did it because it's the only way that they could make donald trump president, again. they did it to save their political skins. to pass a political-litmus test. >> right now, you are having a
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sort of political-litmus test for 2022. i asked one of the individuals who signed on. he said i'm not saying that this is -- this is going on. i just think we need more information. my thing is how much more information do we need? i think what is the -- what is the 1 in 50 or 1 in 51 for lawsuits. i think, at this point, the o record's not very good. >> it's not good. and you should be embarrassed. you deserve it. this should scarf y you, foreve. and hikelike i said, this will down on your permanent record. cnn's white house correspondent is kaitlan collins. kaitlan, good evening. she joins us, now, with this breaking news. kaitlan, man, what a day. how is the white house reacting to the latest smackdown? >> it's been silence, so far. he did comment on the fda authorization of the pfizer coronavirus vaccine. but he has not said anything about this rejection by the supreme court even though the president and the white house has spent this whole week
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touting joining this lawsuit. of course, the president was telling people, privately, that he actually thought it could prevail. but, don, i talked to some of the republicans who signed their names onto this amicus brief. they were pretty realistic about it. they thought the supreme court was going to shoot it down, pretty quickly. but, they believed it was a loyalty test to the president and so they put their names on here. and a sign of the president's silence. they have been having nightly christmas parties at the white house. and the president hasn't come to every single one, don. but he's come to a bunch of them. he normally stops by. guests were informed, tonight, the president was not going to be coming by, not going to be making remarks. so, unless he says something on twitter, we are not going to see him again until he leaves the white house tomorrow around noon. >> didn't show up for the party. probably, would be celebrating as a win but now, won't come out of his basement/bunker or residence. thank you, kaitlan. so much. i appreciate that. two huge stories tonight.
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fda issues emergency-use authorization for pfizer's vaccine. and supreme court hands the president a smackdown on his attempt to steal the election, at a time when we need leadership, more than ever. >> we're in the teeth of a crisis right now and this nation needs presidential leadership, right now. last night's sleep, interrupted by pain?
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attempt to overturn the election results. the justices, including three appointed by trump, himself, acting with unusual speed to dismiss a bid for texas attorney general -- from texas attorney general to throw out millions of votes in battleground states. so, joining me now is cnn's senior legal analyst, laura coates, and our election-law analyst, richard pildis. this is our other big story tonight. laura, i am going to start with you. popular vote, lost. electoral votes, lost. countless recounts, lost. and now, the supreme court, this was twice, where they've gone to supreme court, right, and they've lost. can this all just end, now, please? >> well, i would like to get off this ride. i don't know about you. the hamster wheel is getting extraordinarily old. particularly, given the fact that there was never any merit behind any of the lawsuits that had been brought. we haven't seen evidentiary basis for any of the cases in the lower court. and now, even in the supreme
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court, you don't even have enough, according to the justices, seven out of nine of them, to even get through the front door. this notion of standing. meaning, do you actually have a dog in this fight? have you been harmed in some way and are you the right party to come before us? the constitution says, quite clearly, as you know, don, states have the authority to oversee and administer elections. and other states do not have the ability to control how other states do that. and this was a clear indication that texas and others ought to stay in their lane and the supreme court was going to stay in theirs. >> rick, every day is almost, you know, one after the other. were you on last night? or the night before? where you predicted this. >> it was last night but feels endless. >> that's why i was like was that last night or the night before? you said you thought this would all happen, right? and i think you said you thought it would be even quicker, the response than the last one. even justices samuel alito and clarence thomas. they said they would allow the case to be filed, but would
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grant no other relief. please, explain what that means. it doesn't mean that they would want to hear it, or that they would agree with it. they just said they had the right to file it. >> that's correct. this is a case in a very, very rare category of cases, in which you can come directly to the supreme court, if you are a state, and ask the supreme court to hear a case, bypassing all the other courts. most of the justices think they still have discretion to say, as seven of them did here, we're not even going to let you file this complaint because there's not any basis to it. justice thomas and alito have long said, no, we don't agree with that. if a state files a case like this, to respect the dignity of the states and what congress has done with the jurisdiction here, we should agree to let them file the complaint, which is what they voted to do here. but then, they said, immediately, there's no relief here.
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we wou we would agree to grant. so, the same day texas finished filing its papers, within a few hours, the supreme court, decisively, in two sentences essentially, without any dissents, rejected texas's claims. seven of them saying you can't even file this. two of them saying, we would let you file but we would not give you any of the relief you ask for, here. just not appropriate. >> laura, i just want to play what the president said. this was back in september, and why he wanted a ninth justice on the court. >> i think this will end up in the supreme court. and i think, having a 4-4 situation is not a good situation. if you get that, i don't know that you'd get that. i think it should be 8-nothing or 9-nothing. but just in case, it would be more political than it should be, i think it's very important to have a ninth justice. >> okay. so, he just said, even if you got 8-nothing -- that's what
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happened. he got -- he got 9-nothing, right now. do you think that he -- he always had this fundamental misunderstanding of how the court operated? >> oh, absolutely. >> yes, i think he absolutely did. >> this is for laura, sorry. >> sorry. >> i think he absolutely misconstrued the role of the supreme court in the bush v. gore decision because i think he had the notion that the supreme court, when all else fails, can act as the salvation for the losing candidate and push them over the 270 edge. but that wasn't the case in florida. that wasn't the case with bush v. gore. and it was a very nuanced case. it had, pretty much, a strained equal-protection claim. but the reality here is you've got two justices who were on the court at the time that bush v. gore was decided. i believe it's briar and thomas. you have got three of the justices who actually were a part, in some way, of the litigation in favor of bush. talking about roberts and amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh. you've got a breadth of justices, right now, who knew about the nuances. who understood the role of the supreme court. and more importantly, don, what
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the supreme court was not. and the president trying to bank on them being the salvation, and being able to catch the hail mary was a fundamental miscalculation for him but a win for democracy. >> rick, you're out with a "new york times" op-ed. and you say that state legislatures are still a threat to appointing electors contrary to the will of the people. do you think president trump is going to -- to -- to turn to that? is that what he's banking on right now? or will bank on? >> well, the -- the sequence here is president trump, first, turned to the courts. and he was losing, overwhelmingly, in the courts. he, then, already did turn to the state legislatures. we read about him having them to the white house or calling them up. so far, none of the state legislatures have been willing to do his bidding. now, his last gasp. when congress meets on january 6th to count the electoral vote, there are going to be rejections
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from some republican senators and representatives, we believe, that will object to the votes in these four states, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, georgia. and that will require the senate and the house to vote on those objections. so, the -- i suspect this drama will get extended till january 6th. it will play out, longer than it ought to, on january 6th. but the house and the senate are going to confirm the results of the election. and that will be the end of the matter. >> it's interesting that they're not contesting he and his folks are not contesting any other states. wow. or any states that he won. hmm. thank you, both. thank you. appreciate it. >> funny how that works, don. >> funny how that works. hmm. >> thank you so much. 126 house republicans signed on approving this lawsuit. signed on to tossing out millions of votes. all, for a man who is about to be out of office. stay with us. more on this breaking news. that's next.
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so, the supreme court coming out with a very clear message to president trump, tonight. stop. just stop. that's what it said. the highest court in the land, dismissing his latest attempt to overturn the election. but, will this ruling finally put the craziness to rest? is that too much to ask? let's discuss, now, with cnn senior political analyst, kirsten powers. former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. mark mckinnon. good evening to both of you. so, kirsten, can we talk about -- because this shows you what's going on -- i know you're laughing. right? sorry. informed the president wouldn't be informing them, shortly after the scotus decision was announced. seems like -- what do they always call it? snowflake behavior there? >> well, i mean, he's -- you know, he's just not going to have a good explanation for
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this. and this is -- it really is hard to believe, though, that he thought that the supreme court was going to rule in his favor. but, you know, maybe he really did. this was such an obviously meritless case, everybody could see it. as has been reported on cnn. there are even members of congress who sort of signed onto this shame, who have admitted as much, privately. that they knew it wasn't going to go anywhere. but, you know, the jig is up. it's over. it was over, a long time ago. but in the republican world, i don't know what else you say. >> well -- oh, there are a lot. you can twist yourself into a pretzel. come on, mark. you can twist what alito, what thomas, what they said. you can bring it but we give no relief. meaning, just because we said you have the right to bring the suit, but even if you did, we
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would say, no, we're not giving you any relief. that's clearly what it says. but republicans are using that to say, well, they wouldn't even see it. and they -- and alito and thomas thought they should see it so that they could, therefore, rule on it. they saw it and they made a ruling. it's a procedural thing where the other folks said you don't have the right to bring it. they said you have the right to bring it but that doesn't mean we're going to side with you. it's just nuts, mark. 126 republicans. the ones that signed on to this ridiculous lawsuit. did they just essentially follow the president off of this crazy cliff? >> yeah, sure. that -- that's just a purity test for -- and a loyalty for trump supporters. but today was a good day for prisoners of hope. they got out of jail, on two fronts. got the vaccine. supreme court upheld the laws of the land. and it strikes me, don. couple things. one is thank god we have an appointed supreme court, right? imagine if they were elected and acted like the -- the -- the representatives around the country did.
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and, two, even democrats, i think, can be thankful for the federalist society, who gave him a list of relatively experienced justices. because, imagine, if he didn't have that list and he appointed who he wanted to, we'd have justice pirro and giuliani on this case. it's a good day. >> yeah. listen. i can -- i can see twist themselves into a pretzel. they're doing it, already. >> oh, sure they are, don. they'll continue doing it right up until january 6th. they'll register some protest votes when they -- when they formally endorse what the electors have -- have put forward. so -- and, beyond. you know, they're going to hold out and it's going to help them in their republican primaries. trump continues to be like a shadow presence, holding
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everybody in line. >> kirsten, you were on this program. excuse me. you made the point to me that a lot of these republican lawmakers aren't just supporting this farce, simply because they are afraid of president trump. a lot of them really like him. so, what happens after trump is out of the white house? >> well, i don't know. i do think he will continue to loom large over the party because they don't -- they don't -- you know, i think i was on anthony scaramucci said nobody really likes him because he's not that nice of a person. but when i say -- when i say someone likes a politician, i don't mean they want to be besties. i mean, they like what they're doing. and i think that a lot of republicans who would say i'm only going along with this out of fear. i think a lot of them are -- are fearful of him. but i, also, think a lot of them, like the trump supporters, like what he does. and you know, they call it playing hardball. you know, or -- or punching back, even though he's usually just punching. and, this is just -- this is
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taking it to the extreme end of that continuum which is to try to overthrow an election and try to upend democracy. i mean, this has been a very scary time for a lot of people. i think, for -- for a lot of people who have watched this, and never thought they would see an american president doing something like this. and that you wouldn't expect, you know, people to be going along with it, the way that they are. >> yeah. whoever's beeping, your microwave popcorn is ready and you can get to it now because this is over. thank you very much. i appreciate both of you. be safe and i will see you soon. we're going to have more on our breaking news tonight. we have a lot of news tonight. fda issues emergency-use authorization for pfizer's vaccine. and officials say americans could start getting shots, as soon as monday. stay with us. [♪] do you struggle with dull, dry skin, and find yourself reapplying moisturizer throughout the day? try olay ultra rich. olay's luxurious moisturizer melts into the skin. it's formulated with vitamin b3 plus peptides and shea butter,
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news. one of our breaking-news stories. big night here. issuing emergency-use authorization for pfizer's covid vaccine. but the cdc gives final signoff for americans to be vaccinated. the two final steps in the process. cdc-advisory board meeting, tomorrow morning. and then, a final signoff on the vaccine by cdc director redfield. chair and president of access health international. doctor, it's good to see you on tonight, where there is some good news. appreciate you joining us. so, fda authorization has been granted. we can see doses of the pfizer vaccine being given, as soon as monday. while it's positive news, we still have a lot to learn about what the vaccine's impacts will be. do you think this marks the beginning of the end for the
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pandemic? >> well, it's a wonderful day for america. it's a wonderful day for the world. this is a triumph, not just of an administration or a country. it's a triumph for humans, and it's a triumph for science. we have to realize that we are now joining the fifth country to have approved the vaccine. and that, the vaccine that we've approved is a collaboration between two countries. it's actually the pfizer/biontech vaccine. they all seem to be working pretty well. they all seem to be relatively safe. and this is, we now can begin to see, if not an end, a control, of this epidemic, this pandemic. not only in america, but around the world. it's a great day. >> are you worried that there -- there are going to be some hiccups with this vaccine, that we aren't ready for? like, the allergic reactions,
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the ones that were recorded in the uk, just -- just to give you an example? >> well, there have already been hiccups. there have been hiccups in manufacturing. couple vaccines have stumbled, fallen out of the race, just today. one, from sanofi. and another one. because of manufacturing difficulties. when you go fast, there are bound to be some problems. and i should say, when the fda-advisory committee, the advice, i listen to them, and they carefully considered the pros and cons. given the terrible events of the magnitude of this pandemic in the united states, today, they were willing to take some risks. when you take some risks, you're taking risks. there are going to be some other events. we don't know what they're going to be. anaphylaxis came as a surprise. but, there are going to be some other surprises, too. but, that doesn't mean that risks don't outweigh the benefits. you know, when 3,000 people, a day, die.
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more, than died in the 9/11 tragedy, in one day. and then, followed by the next day and the next day and the next day, that's a terrible, terrible thing for america, and we do need relief. but we, also, have to remember, vaccines, alone, aren't going to put this genie back in the bottle. we have to continue to wear masks, social distance. and at the very speediest this vaccine can make a dent will be probably by mid to late spring, before enough people are vaccinated that the vaccine will be impacting, in any serious way, this pandemic. so, we have got two things to do. get the vaccine out to people. make sure people are happy about taking it. and then, make sure, while we're doing that, we do everything we can to control the pandemic by conventional methods. >> doctor, we thank you so much. be safe. have a good weekend. >> you're welcome. thank you. you, too. >> so, it's -- if rudy giuliani could have gone any lower, he did. passing out dope. take this. that's part of rudy giuliani's
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they look like they're passing out dope, not just ballots. it is quite clear, they're stealing votes. >> passing out dope? rudy giuliani, you are the dope. facts, first, here. here is georgia's election chief, gabriel sterling, who investigated that video and found these allegations totally false. >> the secret suitcases, with magic ballots, were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee-ballot carriers, by the workers, in plain view of the monitors and the press. >> but, giuliani kept attacking election workers in fulton county. many of them, people of color. comparing them to drug dealers. >> quite obviously, surreptitiously, passing around usb ports as if they're vials of heroin or cocaine. i mean, it's -- it's obvious, to
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anyone who's a criminal investigator or prosecutor, they are engaged in surreptitious, illegal activity, again, that day. and that's a week ago, and they're still walking around georgia, lying. >> again, linking people to drugs and crime, for no reason, at all. i guess, disgraceful is a word. there are stronger ones that, t cannot say on television. it's all part of their plot to throw out votes in cities with large, black populations, like philadelphia, detroit, and atlanta. it's another disgraceful chapter in their part of american history. shame. shame. be right back. a lotta folks ask me how to
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