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unimaginable loss right now. 3,270 new deaths reported overnight. hospitals in california reaching a breaking point. icu capacity in l.a. county is now 0%. 0% is about the level of public concern expressed by the president of the united states to this new wave of death. >> we're learning overnight that cedric richmond has tested positive for coronavirus. richmond was at the same event as the president-elect in atlanta on tuesday. the biden team for its part say they were masked and outdoors. he's not the only positive case we've learned about. the wife of health secretary alex azar also testing positive. meantime, congressional leaders still struggling to hammer out a desperately needed stimulus deal. and talks may likely continue into the weekend. a government shutdown, though, looms at midnight tonight. that's, of course, all hanging over these horrific numbers, as john pointed out. cnn's dan simon has our top
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story. >> reporter: the pandemic ravaging the nation. thursday, the united states reported more than 233,000 new infections and over 3,200 deaths. more than 114,000 americans are currently hospitalized with coronavirus. the 12th straight day of record hospitalizations. >> we have another couple of dark months ahead of us if we don't do something at this point to try to stop this dreadful upward curve of hospitalizations and cases and deaths. this is not the moment to be throwing down your guard and gathering for the holidays, like nothing was happening. we have a lot of trouble here in front of us. >> reporter: 48 states have positivity rates above 5% over the past week, including pennsylvania, which recorded more than 10,000 new cases on thursday, and a test positivity rate of nearly 39%. in neighboring ohio, more than 11,000 cases reported. >> there's nothing to be happy about, as we look at these numbers.
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>> reporter: california, a major hot spot for this wave of the pandemic. in just the last two days, the state has reported more than 109,000 new cases. >> i would estimate at this point probably 1 in 50 people in l.a. county may be infected. and that's going to include people you know and you care about and who are in your family. anybody can become infected. and anybody may be infected. and you've got to keep your distance, wear your mask. >> reporter: in southern california, icu beds are at 0% capacity. something los angeles mayor eric garcetti had warned would happen by christmas eve. los angeles is looking at ways to up capacity, such as converting regular hospital beds for icu units. and setting up triage tents in parking lots of hospitals. >> one hospital administrator conveyed to me in a zoom call that if we see a similar spike after christmas, and these were his words, we will go under. >> reporter: but as hospitals across the country face the brunt of the surge, the food and drug administration's vaccine advisory committee recommending
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moderna's coronavirus vaccine be granted emergency use authorization. >> the data that was presented to us was very strong. the efficacy was consistent across all the age groups. they included people with chronic conditions. >> reporter: and as for the moderna vaccine, it needs the final greenlight from the fda and the cdc. that is likely to happen this weekend with hopefully the vaccine being administered next week. and we're also learning that vss and walgreens will begin administering the vaccines in long-term facilities beginning today. >> dan simon for us in san francisco. dan, thank you so much. we have something very special right now. joining us, cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. he is live at grady memorial hospital in atlanta and sanjay, along with dr. valerie montgomery, about to receive the coronavirus vaccine. and we will see sanjay get it live. sanjay, before that happens, we want to talk for a few minutes
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about where we are as a country. and this is so important, because as positive as the news is with people starting to get the vaccine, that you will get in just seconds, we are seeing more death now than we have ever seen. we are seeing more hospitalizations than we have ever seen. in the imhe model, the one the government relies on and we all watch so closely came out with a revision overnight, which has raised the level of projected death to 560,000 by april 1st. it had been as low as 502,000 a few days ago. they're now saying 561,000 dead by april 1st. it's staggering, why? >> yeah, john, look, i mean, as important as this vaccine is, the basic public health measures that were supposed to go into effect and make such a big difference, many of those things still haven't happened in many places. if you look around the country, what you find is that once we hit certain benchmarks in this
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country, roughly, for example, eight deaths per million people, and that was 2,400 deaths, you are smoeupposed to see these mitigation efforts start to happen around the country. the country supposed to compensate like the body compensates when it's in trouble, when a disease has spread. that's not happening. it was expected to happen, and as a result, the numbers continue to go up. it's a concern. there's no question. who knows where these models go. we're starting to look from moderate case scenarios to worst-case scenarios, as a result of that. and it's not surprising to the people who are making these models that the numbers continue to go up. we'll see, john, if states start to respond or not, but that's the big concern. again, the vaccine is wonderful, but the vaccine is a really big tool that takes a while to work. and that's a message that you you know, we need to convey to people over and over again. >> the masks are here to stay, along with all of those other measures, as we know. i think that california really -- that really made me
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sit up this morning when we saw some of the most recent numbers, specifically out of l.a. county. two deaths being reported per hour. we're talking about icus that are basically full. the ripple effect of that, sanjay, can't be underscored enough. >> no, i mean, you're running into a situation where you just don't have beds. at the beginning of this, when you're looking at the northeast, if you had a situation where there weren't enough beds, you can at least adapt to regional structure, to move patients to different parts of the region or even different parts of the country. that's difficult when every place that you might send patients is also struggling with resources, beds, manpower, whatever it might be. so, you know, you have to sort of think about this idea that, what are the escape hatches here. they talk about the fact that they don't have any icu beds in some of these communities, what does that mean, exactly? if someone needs icu care, they're going to have to triage
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and make some tough decisions. they've been anticipating this and have been doing a great job trying to find the square footage and take care of these patients, but it's a real challenge and a situation we did not have to be in right now. >> all right, sanjay. you are at grady memorial hospital in atlanta, along with dr. valerie montgomery rice. you are both receiving the vaccine now. i'll let you take it away and walk us through this process. >> yep, i am here with my old friend, dr. valerie montgomery rice, the president and dean of the moorhouse school of medicine. i've got to say, i want to say something before we start, because, you know, i'm sort of in an interesting position, right? i work here as a health care worker, therefore i'm getting the vaccine. health care workers are more at risk. i've also been covering the story so intensely for a year. i've talked to the people who make these vaccines, i've talked to the fda commissioner, i've talked to the data scientists.
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a i am comfortable getting this vaccine. and yet there are still so many people who are still not comfortable. and i was surprised, dr. rice, even here at grady, about a third of people, health care workers, say they would get it, a third say they need more information, and a third say they would not get it. that kind of surprised me. so a couple of questions. first of all, you're totally comfortable getting this vaccine? >> totally comfortable, totally comfortable. >> how have you approached this decision for yourself? >> for me, personally, as a clinician scientist, i have followed all the data. i listened in at the aicp, i'm on one of the, nih panels, so have had the opportunity to look at the phase 0, phase 1, phase 2. but like you, i have gotten a lot of calls from people. so over the last couple of weeks, three of my mentes called me who were on the front line, i don't know if i'm going to take this vaccine. i said, really? we're scientists, so let's go through the data. went through the data with them, and then even just yesterday,
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one of my staff people came in to me, we were in the office, and she says, dr. rice, my husband is on the front line and -- he works in one of the technical areas, but he's on the front line, in a hospital, and he's concerned about taking it. i went through the data with her and said, you know, this is probably one of the most important steps that we can make to mitigate the virus and do the health prevention measures that we've been doing. >> was there something about the data that stuck out to you specifically for black americans? >> when i looked at the pfizer data, about 3,900 blacks, right, who were fwin there. when you looked at the ones who got the vaccine, about 1,900 or so, very effective. even more so effective than the other demographics. and the early data that i looked at from moderna yesterday, the blacks who were in the vaccine treatment arm, 100% effective. and so, it does show that it is
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not -- we're not seeing a distinction that is negative based on race or ethnicity, age, or even obesity. so that's very positive to me. >> do you think this issue of vaccine hesitancy, especially among black americans is addressable? or is this going to change, do you think? >> i think it is addressable. we're already seeing it. back in august, when we first started the black coalition against covid-19, the black -- the four black historical medical schools, we've been doing these town halls. in fact, we did one last night. about 30,000 to 40,000 people on there. and we are starting to see a difference in the number of people saying that they would continue to think about it, but now moving on from vaccine hesitancy to vaccine acceptance. and then the kaiser family foundation, initially in august, 60% of people said they wouldn't. it was down to 42% or 45%. so we're making some progress.
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but it's about communication, communication, communication, and demonstrating and modeling. so that's what we're kind of here for today, right? >> absolutely. and again, i'll say it. i've been following this for a year, from the beginnings of this vaccine. i am totally comfortable taking it. i feel it's important to say. you are comfortable taking it. there is a reason why people are -- i don't want to minimize people's hesitations, especially when it comes to black americans. the history of medical science and medical experimentation, i think is a word i can use, has really fostered some of this, right? >> yes. if we went back and people can name the mississippi appendectomy studies, people can name tuskegee, people can name even some of the modern day things where we're hearing that women in georgia, who are being -- having hysterectomies unnecessarily. but what we know that's different now, is that there are black scientists in the room
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where decisions being made. there are black scientists who are in the development of the vaccine. there are black scientists who are on the fda advisory panel. there are black scientists on the acip. there are black scientists on the cdc advisory boards. and there are people like me who are looking at the data, helping to interpret it, working with the national academy, giving our recommendations of the allocations. so we're in the rooms where it's happening. so we clearly are not going to go against ourselves, right? because we understand how critical this is for black america and latin-x america who has been additidisproportionate affected by the virus. i would not recommend anything if i did not believe it was safe. >> all right. your voice is so important. you ready to do this? >> we're ready. >> all right. >> mary katherine will come in here and do the jabs. mary katherine, thank you, i think, in advance. while we're getting ready, i should tell you as well, dr. rice is one of only three black
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mother/daughters, harvard medical school, and your daughter just graduated, her vascular surgery resident. >> she is a vascular surgery resident giving her a shout-out. we've probably embarrassed her now, so she won't forgive me for that. but yeah, so i'm going to sit down. >> we are both going to get this shot in our left arm, because we are right-handed, so they do the non-dominant arms. >> my friends know i'm afraid of needles. >> is that right? >> i don't like needles. i don't like needles. >> you're a doctor. >> i am a doctor. i'm a surgeon, too. >> you prescribe a lot of needles and scalpels. >> it's different when you're driving the needle. it's a lot different when you're driving the needle. just relax and breathe. >> big moment. >> yeah, yeah. >> you ready? >> mm-hmm. >> all done? >> that's it? >> oh, piece of cake.
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>> all done. >> seriously. >> you're afraid of needles, that wasn't so bad. >> no, no, she's good. thank you. >> anytime. >> she has a new job. all right. this it. >> you know, it really does strike me that it's such an amazing scientific feat, and yet it's such a mundane act. >> yeah, that was a piece of cake. >> you ready? >> i am ready, mary katherine. thank you. i really feel good about today. i have to tell you. >> i feel good. we're making progress, to be able to do this at grady, as we call it, the grady. having trained here. it has been one of the highlights of my career to be able to come back here and be a part of this continuing advancement at grady so i'm really excited to do this. >> i, by the way, as a surgeon am also a little bit afraid of needles. >> yeah, that's scary. you know. you're not wincing at all. >> is it in? >> it's done. >> it's done! you are really good. >> oh, yeah, that's good.
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>> thank you very much. >> anytime. >> do you get thanked a lot for jabbing -- >> i do, actually. especially in the last couple of days. >> seriously. >> thank you very much, mary katherine. >> you're very welcome. >> you got any words? >> you know what, i was -- as i think about this, i think about how honored aam, and i think about the people who several years ago, because you and i know this technology has been worked on for a while. this mission, they didn't just do it an warp speed. there have been people who have been working on this for years. and the fact that we see all of this coming together, you think about all the people who did -- the animal care facility who worked on taking care of the animals when they were doing the pre-clinical studies. you think about the people who had the idea that you could actually take a genetic code and put it inside of a lipid particle, mix it with some salt and create a vaccine. you think about those people and the people who are doing the
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supply chain. think about the people in kalamazoo and the big deal this is for them. i think about the u.p.s. drivers. i think about the people who are flying the planes from -- who are carrying the vaccine. it's a big deal. and so i'm just honored. and i say thank you to all of those people. thank you. >> and it's important that they be protected, as well. because they're often most at risk. john, erica, i mean, it was a mundane sort of thing to get a shot. people have seen this so many times, but i've got to tell you, i didn't know exactly what to expect. they felt very significant. >> very significant. >> it felt like history. it felt like history to me, sanjay. >> yeah. >> and it felt like a moment of scientific achievement, a microcosm of the remarkable year that we've just gone through. people need to know, sanjay, first of all, that you operate on patients every week. you're in the o.r. every week. you're getting -- you just received the shot today because you need it, based on what you do in your day job when you're not talking to us on cnn. we're so happy that you did it
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not just for your career, but also for the example that it sets. and now just tell us how you feel, what you're experiencing right now, and what the steps are over the next several minutes? >> yeah, you know, i just have to say that, again, it is a really -- it feels like a very profound moment. this is sort of my day job here, health care workers are more at risk. that's why they're at the front of the line with regard to these vaccines, but the reality is, you know, i think about my parents living down in florida. they're in their late 70s. i want them to be able to do what i just did. i've been thinking about them a lot. shooi i'm sure a lot of people who are watching are thinking about the people that they love. and the fact that this could help them from getting sick, 90 to 95% efficacy, it's a pretty remarkable thing. what happens now, i think, we're going to sit here for a little bit, i think 15 minutes or so. there's -- iyou know, there's been these very few cases of
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allergic reactions, so in a situation like this, they monitor you for 15 minutes to see if you develop any kind of allergic reaction. epinephrine, benadryl, things like that. obviously, we're in a hospital. you know, i should point out, it's rare. it makes news, because we're in the middle of all of this. we're all learning about this together. even with other vaccines, about 1 in a million people do have some sort of earlyic reaction. if you think about 300 million people, we've seen hundreds of these around the country, during this rollout. so that's basically it. i think after 15 minutes or so, we are free to go, feeling like we have at least gotten the first half of our vaccination. >> sanjay, you talk about what a profound moment it was for you. i have to admit, and i felt this way watching some of the vaccinations earlier this week. perhaps it's because you're a friend, perhaps it's because i know you, but also listening to what dr. montgomery rice had to say before her vaccination, as well, it is a profound, and i think, emotional moment for people in many ways, as they
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watch this, because the last year really has been so difficult. and i'm just user curious, you know, as you continue in this day job, do you think knowing that you have this first dose will impact you on a daily basis? will it change anything in your daily life or when you're there for surgery? >> you know, that's a really good question, erica. i think there's a physical component to this, there's a psychological component to this. you know. i'll preface by saying this. i've talked to so many people this year who have been, you know, who had covid of people who have lost somebody with covid. and a lot of times, it wasn't that they didn't believe that this existed, they believed it. they just didn't believe that it would happen to them. that is what it really was. and all of a sudden, they got a few symptoms one day, and then those symptoms got worse. and then they needed to be hospitalized. and then they were in the middle
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of the worst days of their life. that's what happens so many times. and so you -- you keep this in the back of your mind. and i guess, did i really worry that i was going to get sick? you know, i was confident that i was doing things to keep myself safe. but you always worry, i guess, a little bit. and now that you think, after i get my next shot, i'll be 90% plus protected from getting the symptoms of covid-19, that's a pretty remarkable thing. so physically, i'm very confident in the vaccine. but there's a psychological sort of peace, i think, that comes with this, as well. >> just to be clear. you -- >> definitely, definitely feel a little relief, right? a little relief, like you've done something. and what i hope, sanjay, that this is showing those health care workers, those persons who are on the front line that we care about you. and the fact that we're here getting this live is to give them confidence that this is safe. we believe it's safe. and that they must do this to
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protect themselves. and they deserve it. because they have been there on the front line, taking care of everybody. and now here is something to take care of themselves. >> that's a good way of putting it. >> i hope the 30% who are sort of in doubt, we hope that you will use this as an opportunity to think about, okay, you should be sitting in this chair. >> and i hope they do. i hope everyone gets to sit in these chairs where we are. >> sanjay, you've done half the job now, because you both need to get the second shot, and because it's the pfizer vaccine, you'll be getting the second shot three weeks from now. the process is halfway through for you. but is it, what, december 18th today, sanjay. and i'm just struck by the fact that it was january where we started learning about this virus. we didn't even know what it was. this wasn't even 12 months ago. and we've gone from that moment, that moment of mystery to this
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just remarkable moment of achievement. and i just wonder if you can reflect back on your personal journey through this? >> you know, i did not think this was going to happen, to be perfectly honest. that we could create a vaccine that we, meaning the scientists and everyone who's been working on this so quickly. you know, having said that, and really celebrating the scientific achievement, i think i really have been struck by the fact that as good as science is, science cannot necessarily rescue us from ourselves. there was so many different ways this could have gone. if you were to ask in january, even knowing what we knew out of wuhan at that point, in terms of what this virus was, how it was behaving, what the mortality rate was. i still didn't think that we would suffer as much as we did here in the united states. i didn't think that the best that we could do was be the worst in the world. i just didn't think that.
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i mean, we're one of the wealthiest countries, we have all of these resources, we have a public health system, all of that. so i did not think that ultimately, we would get to the end of the year and may have a vaccine or be so dependent on the vaccine. that was something that really has sort of struck me, i think, over the last couple of months. like, we -- we would not lean into the basic public health practices, because we were just weight for the touchdown pass, the knockout punch, the home run. that's what we wait for. and maybe that's theist characteristic of a country that has so many resources like we do in the united states, that you can't be bothered by doing the simple things. we are tracking right now in this country what happened 102 years ago during the 1918 flu pandemic. obviously, the population is different. it's three times greater now. but if you look at it, we track the same. back then, they didn't have icus, they didn't have some of the therapeutics, they didn't have the resource.
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and even back then, basic public health behavior sometimes were not abided by. if we don't lean into those basic public health behaviors, science can't rescue us. this vaccine is so critically important, it's going to take a while for it to take effect. but between now and april, the numbers you just shared, which are awful, it could save a lot of lives by just doing what we're doing -- >> preventative measures. we call it the three ws, wash your hands, wear your mask, watch your distance. we cannot stop doing that. and people ask me all the time, so now that you're going to take this vaccine, are you going to stop doing any of those? no, i'm going to even be more diligent. because i want to model the behavior that we know makes a difference and we will probably -- even when we get to 70% of people doing this, well, i'm a germaphobe, so i'm always going to be washing my hands, right? but doing those other things. i would like to take off this mask, but it's just not possible right now. so we've got to keep doing what we know works and we're going to
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keep doing that probably for the rest of the 2021. >> i'm so struck by the fact that we talk about an mrna vaccine wrapped in these lipid particles, really created at this warp speed. it's so important. and yet the masks that we are wearing, are equal liply import. it's true. >> and all the other measures. i think the other thing is that, you know, we are going to continue to need to see people being tested. and quarantined and isolated. and then being able to mitigate what happens when somebody really does get infected. so we can control these hospitalization rates. and you said something the other day that was really important, that the impact of the vaccine, we're going to see first, sort of an opposite expectation, right? we're going to see a decrease in the deaths. then a decrease in hospitalizations, then a decrease in cases. and we've got to continue to say that to people, because people think because we're only seeing a increase in cases, that the
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vaccine may not be working. but that may be because we're testing more and make the tests more available. but we want to see that decrease in hospitalizations and deaths for sure. and i think that's when we're going to know the vaccine is having its impact. >> can we have a data get our second shots together as well? >> i think we're going to get this little card, so we can make it a date. >> not the kind of dates that i -- lunch would be better, but. >> one day, we might be able to have a date without the mask on. we'll bring our spouses so there's no -- >> right. >> just to be clear. for anybody who's watching. >> hey, look, i don't know what that felt like for you guys watching, but it really felt momentous for us to have these vaccines. it's just hard to get a sense of this, but thflt good today. >> and it was less painful than the flu vaccine, for sure. >> i think mary katherine has very good skills. >> okay, all right. thank you. >> it felt like history.
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it felt like we were watching history. it felt we were watching a triumph of science. and you being willing to share this moment with all of us. to be an example for all americans in this moment, so we can all be in it together. so thank you, sanjay. thank you, dr. montgomery rice, for being willing to do this for us. >> thanks, guys. >> so, so important. and in just moments, just a few minutes from now, vice president mike pence, his wife, the second lady, and the surgeon general will also receive the coronavirus vaccine live. you see pictures here as they're preparing for that moment. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ come on! ♪
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in just a matter of minutes, vice president mike pence, his wife, and the surgeon general will receive their coronavirus vaccine. it's going to happen live on tv. you can see the surgeon general there on your screen. the man with his back to you, dr. anthony fauci and marc short there, i believe, as well. everybody preparing for this moment. joining us now, cnn political
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analyst, maggie haberman, white house correspondent for "the new york times." maggie, good morning. great to see you, as always. as we look at this moment that's about to happen, it's so important that we're seeing the vice president and the second lady get their vaccinations. it's so important that we're seeing jerome adams get his, as well. especially if we look back at this kaiser family foundation survey that came out a couple of days ago that found those most hesitant to get a vaccine include black americans, people living in rural areas, and republicans. and republicans said because the major reason was the risks of covid-19 are being exaggerated. >> so this is why it's really important that the white house is modeling the need to get this vaccination. we have not seen the president make a move toward getting it. we have not even see the president talk about it, other than his push before the election to make sure it was done in time for his re-election effort. it is important that mike pence is showing people, as a top
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republican in the party, that this is something that he considers safe, something that he considers important. same with jerome adams. it is important for him, because so many black americans have expressed concern about this virus. and it is going to take a while to change public sentiment, but these kind of gestures from the federal government are really important towards sending a message about the safety and efficacy of this. and the efficacy in terms of the fact that the disease, is, in fact real. >> vaccines don't c'esave l'oui vaccinations do. you have to get the shot in order for it to make a difference. i've been waiting for this moment. what we just saw with sanjay and what we're about to see with mike pence, because it's going to make a lot of sense. but i was also waiting for a political moment. tucker carlson went on tv and he questioned the validity of the vaccine. he questioned whether it was necessary. he threw shade on vaccinations. i'm not going to play it again,
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because i don't think it's helpful to americans. but you can see right there what it says on the screen, bad vaccines. and he also said, it all seems a bit much. it feels false because it is. it's too slick. now, the reason that i'm highlighting this is because president trump has the opportunity to make a huge difference. he has the opportunity to save a lot of lives. there are people who listen to him. there are people who watch what he does and what he says. if 50% of americans are hesitant to get the vaccine, he can make a difference there. but clearly part of his base, tucker carlson, is willing to throw shade on it. so why doesn't tucker carlson do this? what's the thinking behind this? >> i think you laid it very well. the president for whatever reason over 40 years, he boroughs back into his base of supporters at almost every opportunity when he has the chance to rye to lead them in a different direction. he could have done wit masks at various points over this year
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and his followers for the most part would have listened, despite concerns about freedom and so forth. he could have made a difference there. he certainly can make a difference on the vaccine. it is notable that some of his allies are trying to throw shade on this, given the fact that there was so much protestation from the white house about democrats raising concerns about the science over the course of the year. there seems to have been some flip now. you now have the medical community making clear that they consider this vaccine safe. the president has a real role to play here. the first lady has a real role to play here. neither of them is playing that role. the first lady did do some stuff around masks, but basically, there has been a total absence at the top, which is why mike pence doing this is so notable. in a normal world, you would not have this much attention toward the act of a vice president getting a vaccine that his own government had worked on, trying to push out for much of this year. it is a big deal, because the president isn't doing so. and to your point again, john, he does have an obligation, it's just not one he's meeting.
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>> what i don't get, maggie, he wants to take credit for operation warp speed. he wants to take credit for the development of it. but the development doesn't matter if people don't get the vaccine. i don't get the logical disconnect between. he hasn't done a thing to get people to take it. >> i have a theory, it's a theory, but i don't think that he wants to be jabbed with a needle on live television. i just don't. i think that he considers that to be some kind of an act of weakness. and again, this is one of those moments where none of us particularly don't want to roll up our arms and have our arms jabbed on television, necessarily. but it is important. and he is choosing not to do something that could help save lives. >> which also goes back to, as much as the president wants to say "measuriamerica first," it n donald trump first. and this is another example. he doesn't want us to see his arm. he doesn't want us to see him get stuck with a needle. that's about him. it is not about the country. it is not about the job that he holds. >> right. i think that he has constantly
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acted as if he is both bystanders of his own skmirn administration and the leader who should deserve credit. and this is another example of that. i think it is going to make the job of the incoming president harder to try to convince people that this vaccine is safe and a that they should be taking it. but again, that's another thing i don't think is of particular concern to a president who has spent most of the last six weeks insisting the election was stolen from him. >> again, mike pence, surgeon general jerome adams, the second lady, they will receive the vaccine. we will bring that to you live. it will be a very important moment. it's terrific the vice president is willing to do that live on television for america to see. you mention what had the president has been doing the last six weeks, which is questioning the validity of the election that he lost. former national security adviser michael flynn, who the president pardoned, went on tv last night
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and fomented this notion that the president should declare martial law. listen to this. >> he could order, within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities and he could place them in those states, and basically rerun an election in each of those states. it's not unprecedented. i mean, these people out there talking about martial law, like it's something that we've never done. we've done -- martial law has been instituted 64 -- 64 times. >> we've had martial law rerun elections? i want people to fully appreciate the madness, the sheer madness of what michael flynn just said. and he's out there in his mind speaking on behalf of the president. >> right. or speaking to the president, right? and trying to appeal to him on what he thinks he should do. but it is to your point, it is a breathtaking statement to declare that actually the president should just go send in the military in key states where he didn't win and redo the elections there. it's breathtaking. this is a person who is the
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national security adviser under president trump. he also worked for the obama white house, although the obama white house fired after a couple of years in his role and tried to warn the current president about him. this is something that has become a self-fueling circular ecosystem with the president and some of his allies on television where they are putting these ideas out there that are dangerous and that are not grounded in the history that he's claiming. and that, again, do not make it easier as we march towards inauguration day. >> maggie haberman, thank you so much for being with us this morning, as always. have a terrific weekend. >> thanks, you too. so congress has a job to do, and they're just not doing it. and if they don't act, thousands of americans could be evicted in the new year. we'll bring you the stories of some single mothers who are desperate for help, next. ♪
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since really the beginning of the pandemic, fear of eviction has been a widespread problem across the country.
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but it is about to get worse. come january, payments will be due for thousands of renters and for many people who are still out of work, the hold on evictions was their only saving grace. minorities, communities of color tend to be hit the hardest in this moment. cnn's nick valencia is now with us live in atlanta with more. and nick, these are stories -- these stories are symbolic of people that i think many of us know in our own communities and this is the reality and the countdown they're facing. >> i think we've all heard the stories and seen the numbers. and just like with covid-19, erica, it's people of color who are disproportionately at risk of being evicted during this pandemic. you mentioned that federal moratorium that's expected to end on december 31st. we wanted to see the real stories here on the ground, so we spent the day yesterday with single mothers who are expecting to be out on the streets if that moratorium isn't extended. >> reporter: like so many others behind on their rent, jasmine
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cruz says she's living on borrowed time. a federal halt on evictions is set to expire december 31st. cruz, a single mother, who owes her landlord two months of rent, was recently issued a warrant to pay it. every day, she wakes up expecting to be evicted. >> i'm 25 years old, i'm a single mother, and i try on my own, off of like one income, it's not easy. i've been struggling. >> reporter: now with a 2-month-old son, no job, and unable to pay for child care during the pandemic, she looks after her son full-time. with nowhere else to go and no one to count on, cruz came here to the thrive resource center. operated out of a makeshift office in an apartment complex, monica delancy helps those in atlanta who are at risk of being evicted. all are either black or latino and delancy knows their story well. >> they put me out last year, year to the date, with a christmas tree, on a cold day
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like this, with the christmas tree. if you have to move, we want you to move with dignity. we want you to move and pack your things up and we'll find you a place, but we don't want to be forced out, because kids do not know how to get over that. adults can, kids don't know how to. >> reporter: kids like 9-year-old fantasia, who lives with her grandmother, garnell hodge. hodge lost her job in the service industry because of covid. last week, hodge says fantasia started to realize how bad things were when the family got an eviction notice. >> i don't have anywhere to go, because prices are so high, and i don't have much income. >> reporter: black and latino families consistently report low confidence in the ability to pay rent during the pandemic, according to the national low-income housing coalition, communities of color are the hardest hit by the eveviction c and represent 80% of people facing eviction. in atlanta, united way says 95%
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of the families they help facing eviction are black. >> like i said, 2,500 applications in process. and there are thousands more. >> and you're getting to the point where you can't accept, you can't help everybody that needs help. >> we cannot help. the funding expires end of december. that is the biggest plea we have. there's some way we can extend it, so that we can keep helping families. >> reporter: the sad reality is not everyone is going to get help. here outside of the united way, they're only able to help people who live within the city limits. thousands have been turned away during this pandemic. that's thousands who are either unaware or unable to find resources. and erica, i've got to tell you, our crew really got some perspective here on just who is the hardest hit by this pandemic. >> great reporting, nick. it's so important, and what really stuck with me is what monica delancy said, it's about being able to move with dignity. dignity matters. and so many people in this country who are facing these
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leaders scrambling to finalize a $900 billion coronavirus relief bill, but it's growing increasingly likely that congress won't be able to get the long awaited plan through both chambers ahead of a government shutdown. joining me now is congressman hakeem jeffries he is the chair of the house democratic caucus. thanks so much for being with us. >> good morning. >> what's going on? how close are you to a deal? >> i think we're extremely close and we hope to be able to get this done if not today at some
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point tomorrow or over the weekend. we will remain in washington for as long as it takes to provide the american people with the relief that they need. this is a once in a century pandemic, it requires a once in a century congressional response that is meaningful, comprehensive and continuing. >> what's the hold up? >> well, it's a $900 billion deal and so we want to make sure we dot every i, cross every t to address the pain, suffering and death that the american people are experiencing from our perspective, we want to make sure that we obviously extend out unemployment insurance benefits, that we have direct payment checks to the american people, that we provide assistance for child care needs, for housing needs, extend out the foreclosure and eviction moratorium and also make sure that we're dealing with the food insecurity issues that so many americans across the country are confronting at this moment. we expect that an agreement will be reached, we have heard that
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from speaker pelosi and mitch mcconnell. we expect that this will be a down payment on what needs to happen moving forward under a biden administration. >> what are the hold ups we understand from reports is that there now seems to be an effort among some republicans to limit the ability of the fed to put more money into the system to help people, a decision that could have an impact into the beginning of the biden administration. is this something that concerns you? what impact would that have? >> it definitely concerns me. we should not put the incoming administration into a straitjacket, particularly when the response of the current administration has been an unmitigated disaster and the president has been missing in action for weeks now as the american people suffer. so why in the world would we limit the ability of the next president of the united states and his administration to crush the virus, to provide direct assistance and relief to the american people and to revive our economy?
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it's irresponsible and i don't expect that we will allow it to happen. >> possible the government shuts down? >> there's no circumstance where the government will shut down. if there is a need to pass a short-term 24-hour or so continuing resolution in order to allow the negotiations to come to a close, that will happen, but as i mentioned, john, we are here under we get this done for the people. >> you are chair of the house democratic caucus. your caucus will be -- have a much narrower majority than ever before. now that deb haaland if she is confirmed to be the secretary of the interior you will have a majority of just three votes. how will that complicate your life? >> well, we're going to remain unified. first of all, i think it's important to acknowledge the historic significance and importance of this nomination of deb haaland, she's been an extraordinary member of congress, she will be an extraordinary secretary for indian country and for all of
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america. we're going to operate in a unified fashion, we're going to proceed with precision on behalf of the american people and we will have a president who we can work with to build back better for the people. >> precision a euphemism for no margin of error. i can see the smile on your face as you were saying that. listen, congressman, i want to ask you about the vaccine. we're waiting for vice president mike pence to get the vaccine, he will seen it in just minutes along with the surgeon general jerome adams. the attending physician of the capitol made clear that all house members are eligible to receive the vaccine. it's about continuity of leadership. it's something that can be an example to the american people. when do you anticipate that you will get the vaccine? >> well, i'm not sure. i am waiting for guidance from the public health officials. we want to make sure that the first responders have gotten vaccinated in my home community throughout the city and beyond
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the country. it is my understanding that there is some sort of national security directive that the congressional physician has made reference to in terms of continuity of government. it's also important for us to set an example, particularly in the african-american community where there is a great deal of skepticism about being vaccinated, that the vaccine is safe, effective and necessary in order to help us crush this virus and move beyond the pandemic, but i do want to be respectful of the first responders here in d.c., in my home communities and throughout the country. >> yeah, i get that, and i think everyone is sensitive to that. dr. sanjay gupta who just received the vaccine a few minutes ago on our air, he wanted to make clear to the people that he is not skipping the line. no one is talking about skipping the line. sanjay got it because he is in the operating room every week. in theory you would get the vaccine because you are a member of congress and a leader in the african-american community and can set an example. when you talk to the members of
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your caucus is this something that you will encourage them all to do? >> well, you know, it's not an issue that has really come up yet because i think we are all focused on trying to arrive at this agreement to be able to provide the relief to the american people that they so desperately need. you know, we acted in the house on may 15th with a $3.4 trillion package, the heroes act, then we acted again on october 1st. now we are here on the eve of christmas almost still waiting for our republican colleagues in the senate and the president to get their act together. hopefully we can get this done this weekend and then we can proceed to addressing these issues connected to the vaccination. >> look, i know the american people, people who are unemployed, people in need right now are looking at capitol hill saying there is no reason needed to take this long, so, please, on behalf of them, get it done as quickly as you can. >> that's the plan. >> congressman jeffrey's, we appreciate your time this morning. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you, john. moments from now you are looking at live pictures, we
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will watch the vice president, the surgeon general receive the coronavirus vaccine live. "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world, this is "new day." erica hill in for alisyn today. what a morning. >> what a morning is right. >> it has been remarkable to see. it has felt historic, you probably watched it live moments ago, cnn's dr. sanjay gupta getting the coronavirus vaccine live on tv. that was the moment it happened. he didn't wince at all. >> i've got to say that was just such an amazing moment. and just moments from now we're going to see the vice president of the united states, mike pence, his wife karen pence and the surgeon general jerome adams, they will be vaccinated live on tv.
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this is something people need to see. this is something that's good for all of us to see. obviously scientists say that the vast majority of americans need to get vaccinated in order to crush the virus. >> and we need to crush that virus because this important moment comes as the u.s. just suffered its third deadliest day of the pandemic. hospitalizations hitting yet another record high and just looking at california, that state struggling with a crippling surge. the mayor of los angeles worrying about a system-wide crisis as icu capacity in the county falls to 0%. >> joining us now cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta and cnn white house correspondent kaitlan collins. we are about two minutes away from vice president pence getting the vaccine. sanjay, very quickly, what will he go through that you just went through? >> it's going to feel i think pretty mundane for him. i have to tell you, i've gotten a lot of shots, we probably all have throughout our lives, there wa


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