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>> we have no time to waste. if we act now decisively, quickly and boldly, we can finally get ahead of this virus. we can finally get our economy moving again. and the people of this country have suffered far too much for too long. we need to relieve that suffering. the american rescue plan does just that. it relieves the suffering. and it's time to act. >> the president's first major piece of legislation since taking office narrowly passing the house largely along party lines. this coming as a third coronavirus vaccine could be authorized for emergency use in the u.s. at any moment now, the food and drug administration is expected to soon grant emergency use authorization for johnson & johnson's covid-19 vaccine. the company says once it's given the green light it could ship out nearly 4 million doses as early as next week. let's begin with the so-called american rescue plan. suzanne malveaux is on capitol
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hill. joe johns at the white house. tell us about the president's message. >> it was about two minutes long, maybe a little bit under, very short and sweet and one of the things that is pretty clear from that speech is that the president took just enough time to praise the bill, praise the democrats in the house of representatives for passing it and to push members of the united states senate to do the very same thing. also clear that the president has not given up hope on trying to cobble together at least a semblance of republican support for this bill as it makes its way through up on capitol hill. listen. >> we're one step closer to vaccinating the nation. we're one step closer to putting $1,400 in the pockets of americans. we're one step closer to extending unemployment benefits for millions of americans that are shortly going to lose them.
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>> so the president's getting ready now to fly off to delaware to spend the weekend there, expected to come back on monday. so what's the point of giving such a short speech? well, pretty clear from speaking to people here at the white house that when the president is trying to do is by pass the filter of the media and the politics up on capitol hill to try to go directly to the people out in the states and the localities who support this bill and say you should tell your members of congress to support it if they don't. >> uh-huh. joe, thanks so much, suzanne malveaux on capitol hill. the bill now heads to the senate where democrats can't afford to lose, even one vote, if it hopes to get the stimulus package signed by the president by mid-march, tell us about the potential obstacles. >> sure, fred, well this is happening at lightning speed when it comes to congress. this bill that at least on the house side the legislation passing just after 2:00 in the morning 591 pages,
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$1.9 trillion, 219 votes to 212 with two democrats defecting and moving over to the republican side. it is going to be a much more complicated process in the senate. and this is the reason why. the house included in this relief package was an increase to the minimum wage of $15 an hour. the senate parliamentarian said that's not allowed under the budget reconciliation rules, simply stated if they want to pass this with a 51 vote majority, not the 60 that is usually the way that things happen, that they've got to strip that out and we'll see how that plays out on the senate side. we know there are at least two senators as well who don't want this minimum wage hike in there. that is joe manchin of west virginia, kyrsten sinema of arizona. there are a lot of house democrats who say they are quite angry that this has to be included. somehow and some form, perhaps fire the parliamentarian, remove
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the parliamentarian, but there's no move afoot for that to actually happen. what is much more likely is what house speaker nancy pelosi said is that the house once receiving it from the senate will go ahead and approve this package without that minimum wage increase. republicans say it is much too expensive, it is not targeted enough, there are at least two democrats who agreed with that argument. those being representative kurt schrader of oregon, and golden of maine, saying this in a statement this bill addresses urgent needs and then buries them under a mountain of unnecessary or untimely spending in reviewing the bill in its full scope less than 20% of the total spending addresses core covid challenges so, fred, most republicans agreeing with that statement, just a few democrats saying that that, in fact, is the case. but it looks like this would pass strictly along party lines. the goal to make it happen by march 14th when millions of americans run out of their
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unemployment insurance. >> suzanne malveaux, thank you so much on capitol hill. joe johns at the white house, appreciate it. all right, all this now with the u.s. possibly getting a boost in the race to protect the country against covid-19 at any moment now. right now the fda is considering an emergency use authorization for johnson & johnson's single-dose vaccine. if approved federal officials say nearly 4 million doses will be available immediately, and that could increase vaccination for states by 25%. joining me right now is dr. carlos del rio, an infectious disease expert and executive associate dean at the emory university school of medicine. how encouraged should americans be about this possible third vaccine? >> i think we're all very excited about it. this is a really -- a very different vaccine. i think it will be a game changer to have vaccine that you only need one dose to get protection. we know how difficult it has been to give two doses and to vaccinate and get -- reschedule
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people to get a second dose of vaccine. so having a single-dose vaccine will make a big difference. >> what do you say? what's the message to americans who still might be a little bit concerned because the johnson & johnson single dose has an efficacy rate that is lower than 90%? it's not -- you know, as impressive of a rate as pfizer and moderna. >> well, the problem is that you can't really compare them because it's not comparing apples and apples, oranges and oranges. we're comparing different things. the end points were done in a little bit different way. i think the most thing is to compare how effective both platforms are, pfizer, moderna, mrna, and johnson & johnson. in preventing severe disease, in preventing death. and preventing severe disease and preventing death, this vaccine is remarkably effective. it may be you can still get infected with the johnson & johnson vaccine, but on the other hand if you can make a vaccine that prevents you from getting sick and dying even
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though you may still get mild disease we'll be happy with that. our goal right now is to prevent hospitalizations and deaths. >> cdc director dr. roch -- lisn to this. >> although we have been experiencing large declines in cases and admissions over the past six weeks these declines follow the highest peak we have experienced in the pandemic. i want to be clear, cases, hospital admissions and deaths all remain very high and the recent shift in the pandemic must be taken extremely seriously. >> so what's your response when you see that there are areas that are starting to lift restrictions? >> i'm not happy, and i agree with dr. witalensky. the hospitalizations and cases are beginning to plateau and i'm
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getting worried we will not continue to see the decline i would like to see and we still have having about 60,000 infections per day, over 2,000 deaths per day. that is way too many. so i am worried, and i'm worried that people are lifting restrictions, saying this is over when the reality is we're not over yet. we're really right now in a race between variants and vaccines and we have to do whatever we can to shut down this virus. >> the cdc has issued new guidance emphasizing ventilation, encouraging schools to open windows, doors you know when it's safe to do so. in order to increase outdoor air flow and prevent infections. this as so many school districts grapple with the idea of reopening in person learning. but then you've got the issue of schools that may not have the finance to upgrade ventilation systems. what are your thoughts and concerns? >> we've known for respiratory pathogens ventilation is important. we've known this from
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tuberculosis. the magic mountain, the old sanitariums were kept very open. how you deal with respiratory pathogens, having good ventilation is important. open your windows if you can. the winter is going away. we're having the spring come. open your windows, open doors, create air flow and that will help. at the end of the day continue wearing your mask. socially distance. and do avoid crowded environments. i know sometimes it's really hard in schools to keep six feet apart but if you're not able to be six feet apart keep your mask and have good ventilation. >> where are you on vaccine trials involving kids? pfizer says it's ready to begin its clinical trials for its virus with kids as young as 5, hopes the data will be available by the end of the year. how should families be planning, knowing that that is taking place? >> you know, i think it's going to be effective. i think we're going to see very good results from the vaccine
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trials in kids. i think kids vaccine trials are going to be a little bit more complicated in the sense that, remember, you cannot have being sick and death as one of the end points because those are not very kmochb. you're going to look at, did the kid get infected and therefore you're going to have to do frequent swabbing of kids, coming in to see if they get infected or not but i think the vaccines are going to be effective. we're starting trials with younger kids and i think at the end of the day, probably by the end of the year we'll have vaccine available for children. >> a new pre-print study from researchers at cambridge finding that a single dose of pfizer's coronavirus vaccine may actually protect against asymptomatic infection, bolstering calls for the u.s. to delay second doses, should u.s. officials seriously consider moving to a single-dose regime on a vaccine that's already been bested with two doses? >> i am not in favor of that. i think that vaccines were tested, giving two doses, you know i go by the principle is,
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use as prescribed. that's what you do with medications. i worry that as we're having variants and when we look at the neutralizing antibody tyrants against the variants you don't have a lot of margin. i think getting that second vaccine is important. having said that, we also have seen data that in people who already have covid, when they get the first dose it's almost like if they'd gotten the second dose. better approach may be to actually find out who has had covid before and when you vaccinate those individuals, just give those individuals one dose. >> dr. carlos del rio, thank you so much, always good to see you. >> delighted to be with you. >> coming up the biden administration cracking down on saudi arabia after the murder of jamal khashoggi. but does the punishment go far enough? new fallout over a report that accuses the saudi prince of approving the journalist's death. plus, the fbi singles out a suspect in the death of capitol police officer brian sicknick. the surveillance video shining
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marquardt explains it singles out the involvement of the saudi crown prince. >> in black and white the united states is saying that the de facto ruler of a close ally is responsible for murder. the intelligence community concluding saudi arabia's crown prince mohammad bin salman approved an operation in istanbul, turkey to capture and kill journalist jamal khashoggi. the report is barely three pages long and doesn't hard evidence of an order from mbs as the
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prince is known. it's based on mbs's control of decision-making in the kingdom since 2017, and support for using violent measures to silence dissidence abroad. the report describes mbs as having absolute control of the kingdom's security of intelligence. it includes people associated with top mbs lieutenant -- and mbs's body guards, incoming mutreb who traveled with mbs to the united states. it comes more than two years after the brutal murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul of the "washington post" columnist, long critical of mbs, the crown prince took responsibility by denied any personal involvement and the trump administration, despite having access to all the classified details ignored the law requiring a public intelligence report and instead provided cover for mbs. >> the fact is, maybe he did, maybe he didn't. >> reporter: there's no direct
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evidence linking him to the murder of jamal khashoggi. >> reporter: now the biden administration has said that mbs is responsible but it's not sanctioning him. instead the treasurely department on friday announced sanctions against a former senior saudi intelligence official and an entity known as the tiger squad, several of whose members were allegedly among the assassins. failing to punish mbs comes as a major disappointment to khashoggi's family and supporters. >> i am more -- than ever before. now i believe he will never come back. >> reporter: i asked the white house why mbs isn't being punished despite the report clearly says he's responsible for the murder of jamal khashoggi. the senior administration tells they're fulfilling the requirement to the law and that the goal is to make sure nothing like this happens again. the cnn team at the white house is being told that sanctions against mbs were, quote, too
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complicated and could jeopardize u.s. military interests in saudi arabia. alex marquardt, cnn, washington. we're also hearing from the secretary of state antony blinken who defended the limited extent of the sanctions. >> so what we've done by the actions that we've taken is really not to rupture the relationship but to recalibrate it, to be more in line with our interests and our values. >> i want to bring in now jason rezai, an editorial writer for the "washington post" and was jailed in iran for 544 days and of course khashoggi was a columnist for the "washington post" at the time of his killing. so jason, so good to see you. so, you know, "a," i guess i want your response on now this report is being made public. it was a report that many have said has been suppressed for almost two years in the trump administration so your thoughts
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on the report now adding credence to what suspicions were, you know, across the -- across the world about saudi arabia's involvement in khashoggi's death. >> fred, i think it's really important to acknowledge just that, that we've had this information available to us, the government has for the past 2 1/2 years and, you know, the trump administration, president trump, secretary of state pompeo consistently gave cover to mbs, knowing full well what had happened. so i think it is a step forward that the biden administration has released this report although i am disappointed that the measures against mohammad bin salman aren't harsher. i believe that he is an autocrat that is kind of out of control and has been for several years. he was allowed greenland by the
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trump administration not only to repress people in society but to undertake the war on yemen that has led to the death of tens of thousands of people and famine for many millions more. so i would like to see more serious ramifications for him personally. i would hope that in the call that president biden had with king salmann, mbs's father earlier this week, that it was made clear to him that this sort of action is not only reprehensible but is unacceptable. but i just don't know if that's the case. >> so then you said mbs has been out of control for a long time but then i wonder now about the timing. president biden would have this conversation with the king and then not very long afterwards this report would be made public and i wonder do you feel like the biden administration feels like its hands are tied to an extent in terms of how far it
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can go to penalizing the country or all those involved? >> let's be really clear about this, fred, we have a very close relationship with saudi arabia that goes back decades. but it's a marriage of convenience. this is not the kind of alliance that we have with, say, the uk or france, germany, canada, or israel. this is not a country that we have any shared values with. it's a strategic partnership that we've relied on for a very long time but time and again, especially in the last quarter century or so, we've been played by the saudis. we've had situations dating back to pre-9/11 and of course the 9/11 bombers, most of them came from saudi arabia. this is not a country that necessarily is our good and dear friend. i think the administration has probably made clear to king
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salmann that the relationship has to change. >> this military relationship between the u.s. and saudi arabia is, you know, pretty huge, you know, and it would seem that the u.s. would have its leverage there but do you see the u.s. moving in that direction to in any way make a point to saudi arabia? >> i think that we could and we should and that's that's the exact opposite of what president trump did. if you remember when we were having similar conversations about holding mbs to account 2 1/2 years ago his response was well they buy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weaponry from us, that's more important than the life of one individual. i think that's not true. and as a journalist who has been suppressed as you mentioned and imprisoned i think it's important and essential for the u.s. government to stand up for the rule of law, free expression, and all the other
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values that we hold so dear here in this country and if we don't i'm not really sure what it is that we stand for. >> let me also ask you about your take on the u.s. air strikes that were carried out this week against iran backed militias in syria. the u.s. says it was, you know, meant to be proportionate but not to provoke an escalation of tensions with iran. how do you see -- impair the biden administration's commitment of reviving that iran nuclear deal. >> i don't think that these strikes will get in the way of renewed talks between iran, the u.s. and our allies over nuclear issue. for one very specific reason. iran needs that deal and the u.s. and our allies along with china and russia have made a commitment to ensure that iran
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never gets a nuclear weapon. so those talks will happen. i believe that it was, as they have said, a proportional response to iranian backed militia activities in syria and iraq. i think that we're in a much less tense situation than we might have been three months ago towards the end of the trump administration when the iranian nuclear scientist was assassinated in tehran. i think we've kind of stepped it back a bit. it's still a very tense time but i think that the prospect of talks are pretty good. >> all right, jason rezaian, always good to see you, thank you so much. >> thanks, fred. still ahead, inside the attack, new information on the death of a capitol police officer during the insurrection. plus, humbled and
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. the fbi has identified a suspect in the death of capitol police officer brian sicknick, law enforcement officials are telling cnn that information, investigators are still waiting on the report from the medical examiner and a full toxicology report. with me now reporter marshall cohen, and cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey, formerly police chief for d.c.
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metropolitan police. marshall, you first, what are you learning about the investigation? >> fred, there's a possible breakthrough into the death of capitol police officer brian sicknick, we previously reported the justice department scrambling to find footage about the moment sicknick was attacked. sources tell cnn the fbi now does have video of the main suspect using chemical irritants against sicknick, possibly bear spray, which all may have contributed to his death but they still don't know the suspect's name. so prosecutors clearly have more work to do as they try to build that federal murder case which is not an easy task. of course if they don't think they can bring a murder charge, they could always look at lesser charges like assaulting a federal officer with a deadly weapon, things like that. we'll have to wait and see. meanwhile in a statement capitol police as you mentioned the medical examiner is still finishing up their job and waiting for critical toxicology
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results to come back. so, fred, the doj have charged more than 300 people in connection with the capitol insurrection but clearly this part of the investigation which is really, really important, it's been an uphill climb. >> so chief, while it sounds like it may be a difficult case to prosecute, what will investigators, you know, be doing to try and gather evidence to try to get the name of that person, to try to fully prosecute? >> well, i'm certain with 300 people arrested somebody is working with them and talking to them so perhaps someone who's been arrested will, you know, if they know that individual, might give them a name. but this whole thing hinges on the results of the toxicology report apparently, the medical examiner has to determine the cause of death. the tissue samples and blood samples that were sent for analysis will be critical in knowing whether or not a chemical irritant was responsible for him having some kind of -- having a fatal
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reaction that caused his death. we just don't know, and until you get that, you really don't have anything beyond just assault, which quite a few of the 300 were charged with assault on a federal officer. if it is in fact bear spray it wouldn't be surprising, you can only imagine something strong enough to cause a bear to run away, the impact that could have on a human being is something obviously could, in fact, be fatal. >> yeah, it's a horrible imagery and horrible nonetheless the video all of us witnessed. so marshall, a review of u.s. capitol security. it's set to call for sweeping changes. what are we expecting? >> yeah, so our colleagues whitney wild and zachary cohen reported yesterday there are some interesting recommendations that are going to be put forward in the coming weeks. firstly, they want to add a thousand members to the u.s. capitol police force which would really dramatically expand that
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force. one of the things that they really want to focus on is making sure that police officers can continue providing security when members go home to their home district, which has been seen as a kind of vulnerable point. they also want to take a hard look at permanent fencing and walls that can go around the complex, obviously that's been a very heated debate, some lawmakers say they don't want that, they don't want to have the people's house behind all these barriers but their recommendations are, you know, you might need to do that, and finally something along the lines of a rapid response team with the national guard that would be in d.c. always ready to go whenever they get the call because as you know, as we all saw on january 6th that was a huge failure, just how long it took for the troops to come in. so they're trying to see what they can do to make sure that something like this could never even happen again. >> chief, what do you think about those recommendations, those possible changes? feasible? >> well, some of those
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recommendations, i'm certain, are not the first time they've been made. there have been security reports before that weren't acted upon, hopefully this time it will be. i do believe that there needs to be some serious consideration for physical security around the capitol. certainly personnel and equipment is an issue. but they also have to cut through the bureaucracy. if there is an emergency that police chief needs to be able to activate those resources without going through the layers that they have to go through now. i mean, if they can't trust that person to that i can missouri kinds of decisions in an emergency and quite frankly they have the wrong person serving as police chief. i think that was part of the problem. i don't think any police chief would have been able to perform a whole lot better in terms of being able to get additional resources in a hurry considering the bureaucracy that they have to go through but that's not to say that they weren't properly prepared because they weren't. but still the process is part of
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the president, however he looms large there, certainly front and center at this conference. >> absolutely he looms large in the republican party and in the conservative movement and you can see that in the paraphernalia and the clothing people are wearing in orlando, maga hats and t-shirts with slogans like trump won and biden is not my president. you can hear it talking to attendees and you can hear it when anyone on stage mentions trump's big speech tomorrow afternoon. everyone gets really excited and you can hear it from those speakers on the stage, republican politicians hitting some key themes that the republican party is united around trump, that the old guard of the party is no more, and that maga, make america great again is the future of the party. as you mentioned the big lie about election fraud, that is certainly a theme that's being hit on by republican politicians. take a listen to what some speakers had to say yesterday. >> president trump did something that has never been done in our
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lifetime. he stood up to all of establishment washington, and said no. no, i will not accept business as usual. you know, on january the 6th i objected during the electoral college certification. maybe you heard about it. i did. i stood up. [ cheers and applause ] i stood up and i said, i said we ought to have a debate about election integrity. >> i'm looking forward to sunday. i imagine -- i imagine it will
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not be what we call a low energy speech. and i assure you that it will solidify donald trump and all of your feelings with the maga movement as the future of the republican party. >> now fred we expect to hear from a couple of more republican politicians who may throw their hat in the ring in 2024 for president, mike pompeo, and christy -- the south dakota governor. it's an opening act here at cpac were the big event with the main star, donald trump tomorrow afternoon, fred. >> well, it's indeed an unpredictable weekend thus far. mike warren, thank you so much. still to come, new guidance on reducing coronavirus infections in the classroom, the ceo of baltimore public schools joining me live to talk about that and the return of in-person learning.
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the cdc issued new guidance emphasizing the role air ventilation plays in reducing coronavirus spread in classrooms. the agency is encouraging schools to open windows and doors when safe to do so to increase outdoor air flow and prevent recommendations, and portable air cleaners and improving building wide filtration. joining me is dr. sonja -- the ceo of public schools, now weekly screenings for students and teachers as an added detection measure for kids
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participating in in person learning. doctor, it's good to see you. >> good to see you too, fredricka. >> this was a pilot program you're now expanding to get kids and teachers safely back into the classroom. tell us how it's working. >> it's working really well within our pilot schools. we have two tests, one is pool testing. we partnered with -- for our elementary schools and then we partnered with american university and the consortium of universities to bring the t3 s saliva tests for high school. in the early days i was with a group of pre-k students who mentored me how to do a nasal swab. very easy, they were able to do it. not an invasive procedure, quick four swipes on each nostril,
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deposit it in a collective tube and move along. we'll be introducing the saliva testing at the high school level. this is major for us because this is testing for no symptoms. we've had symptomatic testing through university of maryland. this will now add to that. we're excited about it. >> so while you're excited and optimistic, you've also gotten some pushback from the city's school teachers' union, they've called for teachers to be fully vaccinated and other measures to be implemented before they are to return to the classroom. so how do you address their concerns? how do you get them at the same kind of comfort level that you're already seeing exhibited in some of the kids? >> so i think one of the things that we've done, fredricka, is we acknowledge that it's multiple mitigation strategies, it's not just one. two, we have partnered with johns hopkins university medical center as well as university of
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maryland where we've had prioritized vaccination access for city schools employees. and so what we are seeing now is that we have close to 7,000 of our 10,000 school employees that have actually received invitation for the vaccine, including our teachers that we are having back in a phased approach. so part of what we're looking at is how do we make sure that within that phased approach we're offering vaccines to everyone returning who would like one and so as supply comes that's another reassurance in addition to all of the other measures we've had in place frankly since september. >> and so what about the cdc guidelines about ventilation, how has that formula factored into your reopening plans? >> well, we were very fortunate in that our planning -- we started bringing back small
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groups of families as early as the summer into september and november, and our medical advisory group here in baltimore city along with our health department flagged very early the ventilation issue for us. so we have purchased close to 8,600 hepa air filters to help in spaces where frankly windows don't open because the buildings in baltimore city schools are very old, some of the oldest in the state. we've been advocating, you know, for newer schools for quite some time. so we have been purchasing those ahead of time as well as hepa air filters which are recommended for the level of filtration that you want to make the air quality safe. so that's what we've been doing for quite some time to get ready for the ventilation. >> okay. and then you also recently wrote an op-ed for education week. and i'm going to quote a portion of it where you say, you know,
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our actions in this unprecedented moment could do much more to dismantle inequity than to exacerbate it. so what is the message that you are trying to convey there about the importance of getting kids back in school as possible -- as fast as possible, particularly for equitable, you know, opportunities? >> well, one of the things that we've acknowledged from the beginning that is true is that we serve a population in a community that frankly has reason for historical distrust of many institutions, be they educational institutions, health institutions. from the beginning what we have said is we want to offer families a high quality choice. we want to make sure we have all the mitigation, you know strategies in place and frankly we've been doing it slow and steady so we've had small groups of students and teachers that we've brought back.
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we've had absolutely no in school transmission because of those steps that we've put in place. and we recognize that there are large numbers of families of color who actually want an in-person option for their children. they just want that option to be safe. and so we know, i've communicated to our principals, our team that this is about trust building because there have been decades and generations of mistrust. and so we've been going slow and steady and really investing in making sure that the safety precautions are in place. >> dr. sonja brookings, ceo of baltimore city schools, thank you so much, all the best and best of luck to all the families and students in your district. >> thanks so much. coming up next, johnson & johnson could receive emergency use authorization for its coronavirus vaccine at any moment now so what's next in the approval process? and when will distribution
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you for joining me. a third coronavirus vaccine could be authorized for emergency use here in the u.s. at any moment. the fda working to finalize its decision on johnson & johnson's single-dose vaccine. if approved nearly 4 million doses will be available immediately. which could increase vaccination for states by 25%. cnn health reporter jacqueline howard joins me now. how soon could this be going into people's arms? >> we could see shots going into arms in just a few days. but something important has to happen first. once the fda makes its authorization we then are going to hear from the cdc. and tomorrow, an advisory committee to the cdc is going to meet and go over johnson & johnson's data and then the committee's going to make recommendations on how the vaccine can be used so the fda is first going to say, yes, it can be used if it's authorized for emergency use, but then the cdc advi


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