tv CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto CNN March 8, 2021 7:00am-8:00am PST
very good monday morning. i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm poppy harlow. we hope you had a nice weekend. a busy weekend, certainly in washington. right now the house is poised to vote on a bill that could grant much-needed relief to millions of americans. >> and send checks out to americans possibly within days. and just an hour from now, the cdc is going to announce long awaited guidelines for fully vaccinated americans. in other words telling you what you can and can't do after you receive those crucial shots. let's begin with elizabeth cohen. so elizabeth, tell us, one, what we expect to be in these guidelines, if we know, and just how essential they have as more and more americans get vaccinated. >> oh, jim, this is so essential. about 12% of american adults have been fully vaccinated. and i'm sure you know because you've gotten the questions, i know i've gotten them, a lot of
people have gotten them, i'm vaccinated and what could i do now that i couldn't do before. questions like if i'm fully vaccinated and my elderly grandmother is fully vaccinated, can she and i hug? if i'm vaccinated, but my best friend isn't vaccinated, can we hug? can we sit in the same room? should we be masked or six feet apart? that is the questions people have and they want to know what to do and underneath that is the question i went to the trouble of getting vaccinated, is not always easy, what goodies does that give me, what benefits does that give me? i've been told from sources in the administration, tht not entirely prescriptive and think that means coy go bowling or sit on a bus if it is only halfway full. it is not going into each individual scenario but will address broad terms of who could i be with indoors, unmasked and
unsocial distancing and do i still need to keep distance? jim and poppy. >> an hour from now we'll know more. thanks very much. the next 24 hours on capitol hill will be critical for many, many americans in need of economic aid. the democratic led house hopes to pass the senate version of the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill by tomorrow. >> if that happens, president biden could sign that bill into law before, this is crucial, unemployment aid programs, expanded programs expire on sunday. cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju joins us now from the hill. so manu, this is a pretty tight schedule. so far democrats have kept to it. despite some road blocks in the final hours on friday and saturday. any more potential road blocks between now and march 14th? >> it doesn't seem that way. right now we do expect it to pass the house tomorrow. there might be two democratic defections, they can't afford to
lose more than four and at the moment that is not what the democratic leadership believes, they believe they do have the votes to get this passed because the bill passed out of the senate is similar to the one that passed out of the house. there were some changes made, $15 striped out being the most significant but they tightened how stimulus checks will go out to individuals and families, ti tightening the eligibility on that and changed how unemployment benefits were being dolled out, they were $400 but they were paired down to $300 a week with some money being allowed to be deducted from an individual's taxes. but that is still not expected to be enough to change the dynamics in the house. we do expect all republicans to vote against this plan. that is what happened in the senate over the weekend, it passed by 50-49. the 49 republicans who were there all voted no. one republican wasn't there and had he been there, dan sullivan,
he would have voted no as well. and in the house, all republicans voted against the first version and expected to vote against the next version of the measure final vote tomorrow as both sides making completely different calculations about what the american public needs right now, and what american voters want as polls do show, though, this bill is popular. >> that is true. among independents as well as democrats and some republicans. manu raju, thanks very much. for more on the stimulus and the state of the pandemic, the effects, i'm joined by the governor of idaho, brad little. thanks so much for taking the time this morning. >> good morning, jim. >> so you signed on with 21 governors pushing back against this covid relief plan and saying it punishes states such as idaho for staying open during the pandemic. as you know, the stimulus checks and the expanded unemployment
benefits, they go to residents of red and blue states if they're still having trouble finding a job. do you oppose checks to residents of idaho that are still out of work? >> well, no, i don't, but it is the magnitude of the issue. and it is the fact that those of us that worked hard not only as in the governing side but the people that went out and made the sacrifices to go to work, businesses did innovative things, we get penalized for doing that, for opening up early, for having our schools open, and the states that did less get rewarded. that is the biggest part of the objection. >> what is the penalty, though? this extends benefits for folks who are still out of work. nationally there are 10 million jobs that still haven't come back. as a result of the pandemic and the shutdown and many of them are in the state of idaho, what is the penalty to give those people a few more month of help? >> well it is a like the earlier
bill, the first bill that was passed, it would be on a per capita basis and we'd get somewhere between a quarter and a half billion dollars more. i object to the size of it any way and the fact that only, you know, less than 10% of the whole package is for covid-related expenses. but the best solution to unemployment is for people to have a job. and we're doing everything we can to get people back into the work force and it is rewarding the states that didn't do that, it is bailing out their pension funds, it is rewarding other things and that is our big objection. >> i get that. listen, we've talked to business owners on this broadcast all of the time, they really want to open up and we don't want them to lose their businesses any more than the next guy. i guess the issue, though, is that for some businesses it is unsafe to open up fully at this point. you don't want to crowd people in the bars and restaurants, sports stadiums and that has a consequence.
i guess i'm saying, what is the -- what's the crime in giving some financial help to folks as you wait for businesses to be able to fully reopen? >> well, any business in idaho, that wants to be open could be open today. the small group that are really impacted by distancing and some of the other things, it would just take a fraction of what we're talking about spending here. we're going to saddle our kids and grandkids with this debt. you know, $1.9 trillion is a lot of money. and our kids and our grandkids will have to pay it back. and it is being unfairly distributed. and there is funds in it that are going to bail out pension funds, private and public pension funds, rewarding bad behavior and that is my big objection to it. >> okay. i want to talk specifically about health care if i can for a moment because also in this bill, it expands eligibility for
obamacare, the affordable care act. idaho is a state, a red state of course, republican governor, but the voters passed medicaid expansion in 2018. it was popular there because it helped people and a lot of people in idaho took advantage of that, and given that medicaid being a part of that, why not support further expansion now? >> well, we want people to have a job and be on private insurance and not be on public insurance. that is our goal. grow the size of the economy, grow the opportunities. make sure that private health care is affordable and accessible. this is full medicaid expansion to everybody, that is nothing but socialized medicine that has all kinds of problems. we could do that if we have the right incentives. one of the great things that happened during this pandemic is the expansion of telehealth. with telehealth, we could lower
the cost to everybody of health care. >> i get it. but as you know, medicaid is not available to everyone. i'm sure given the choice, folks would prefer to have a job and private health care, but until they do, if they're talking about, i don't know, taking their kids to the hospital, what is wrong with expanding that access to folks at the bottom end of the economic spectrum, especially given again red state idaho, popular in your state, that expansion in 2018. >> well, we expanded medicaid and we also have some other programs. we have one of the most efficient exchanges there is. we don't have a federal exchange. we have a state exchange. and by every major -- it is working. we just want to create a pathway for people that need it and we don't be grudge them at all for needing that. but we want to give them a path way to get out from under public health care to get on to
private, affordable, accessible health care. >> okay, final question if i can, because masks have become a big issue in your state. you have a mask burning event over the weekend. and to your credit, you've tweeted openly, keep practicing what we know works and stay home and if we look at events like that, has turning mask news a political issue, not yourself, but others, has that helped or hurt the health of the residents of your state? what wo it have been better if it wasn't a political issue, if it was a straight up health issue? >> yes, it would. but what we we've tried to do is present all of the evidence and it is been conflicting, everybody has to admit that, that people choose to carry a mask, to wear a mask. you know, having it over your forehead or your chin -- >> it is not conflicting that the science is pretty clear on this it keeps it down. it is not conflicting. the evident about wearing a
mask. it works. >> well it was early. and that was one of the issues. no, i -- i agree totally and that is why we have -- all we can and hopefully this -- your next segment will talk about what we do and how much longer people will have to wear the masks will enlighten people. but it is not helpful for people to be burning masks. we want people to choose to make the right decision to wear a mask. >> fair enough. well governor, we appreciate the work you're doing in your state and we wish you and the residents of idaho the best of luck in the coming months. >> thanks very much, appreciate it. we have breaking news. just into cnn, the supreme court has declined to take up a challenge from lawyers for former president donald trump challenging the 2020 election results in wisconsin. pretty consistent view of this it seems, poppy, from the supreme court. >> completely. let's go our jessica schneider,
jessica, explain this -- it is another shooting down of the big lie. >> reporter: and like jim said, they're staying consistent here. this is another election lawsuit that the supreme court is steering clear of. and guys, it really deals this last blow to trump's baseless election fraud claims. so this was a case out of wisconsin, the supreme court is saying we are not taking this up. this was trump's lawyers who were challenging the way that absentee voting was implemented in the battleground state of wisconsin. they said that the wisconsin elections commission had overstepped by sort of broadening out the rules to allow more absentee voting. trump's team said that was not within the purview of the commission and that was instead within the purview of the legislature. so this was another case just like we saw out of pennsylvania a few weeks ago where trump's team and republicans, they were challenging another body that had stepped in to sort of usurp the power of the legislature here. but as we saw a few weeks ago,
guys, the supreme court is not entertaining this claim, they didn't entertain the claim in pennsylvania. and this has essentially been the last gasp for trump's legal team here at the supreme court. there are no more petitions outstanding as it involves trump directly and this is really the last blow to their team from the supreme court, the supreme court saying we are not taking up these elections cases dealing with some that happened four months ago. guys. >> last gasp, thank you, very much. okay, let's turn now to the trial of ex-police officer derek chauvin, accused of second-degree murder and manslaughter of george floyd. >> the trial now underway. jury selection has been begun in minneapolis. chauvin is facing, we'll remind you, second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in floyd's death. video of chauvin kneeling on floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes sparked protests around this country, around the world even. omar jimenez is in minneapolis.
the city is taking precautions for more demonstrations today but we have news now about steps moving forward on jury selection. >> reporter: that's right jim and poppy. there is some debate in the beginning of this jury selection process as to whether they could move forward with jury selection until the matter of a third-degree murder charge being reinstated was settled. well judge peter cahill ruled that they can proceed with jury selection and that process won't be delayed as they try to figure out the appeals process for whether that third-degree murder charge will be reinstated f. you remember, derek chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder and second-degree manslaughter, both of which he's pleaded not guilty to. that is what is happening inside. outside this is the scene. as you look at really the mass of people that have come out here in support of george floyd. these are people that have gathered over the course of the
morning. of course, many people here, again, in support, his family here, also on scene, and as we understand also, in the courtroom itself, bridget floyd, which is george floyd's sister is the sole family representative, as only one member of the floyd family and one member are allowed in the courtroom at a time. but really this is the beginning of the process of what has been a long time coming in this case. we saw what happened last may and many here, at least the supporters of george floyd out here, are hoping that this ends in a conviction. >> omar, thank you very much for covering the beginning of this for us. we'll stay -- have a close eye on this trial into still to come, oprah's stunning interview with the duchess of sussex. they say the royal family failed to protect them and their child and some in the palace asked racist questions about they are baby's stin color. >> as more americans get
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remarkable job. prince harry and meghan accused the press of racism and some in the palace of race itch and not supporting them or securing them. >> the couple revealed that conversations, they had conversations about what their unborn child would look like. because megman is biracial. one of the most alarming parts of the interview. >> in the months when i was pregnant, all around the same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title. and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. >> there is a conversation, hold up. >> there is several conversations. >> there is a conversation with you -- >> with harry. >> about how dark your baby is
going to be? >> potentially and what that would mean or look like. >> yeah, heart topping moment there. we're joined now by max foster, also cory murray, deputy editor of "essence" magazine. so max, first to you, the full interview has not aired yet in the u.k. the palace has something to answer to here, right. you said earlier, they're somewhat struggling with a response. you speak to people inside there, do they have an answer to these many allegations? >> they're just not coming out with a response right now. i think my only assumption is they're working together in different households involved here, they're all going to have to come up with some common response. i think they do have to answer a couple of key questions. of course, there is the allegation there that the institution is racist. it is a huge allegation to make.
they will want to respond to it but i think there is no one else in the world, better qualified to speak to that issue than meghan. she's the only diverse member of the royal family. so she's more qualified than anybody to speak to that. how do they respond to that? i don't know where to begin with that. the other key answer they need to give is that meghan was a vulnerable woman in a -- a suffering from some severe mental health issues, she went to ask for support from the officials and from the h.r. department and no one stepped in to help her. so there are two clear areas where everyone wants to hear the palace point of view but there are others too. >> to the second point, let's take a moment and listen to what meghan markle said about her suicidal thoughts and where she was in that moment. >> but i knew that if i didn't say it, that i would do it.
and i just didn't -- i just didn't want to be alive any more. and that was a very clear and real and frightening constant thought. and i remember -- i remember how he just cradled me and i was -- i went to the institution and i said that i needed to go somewhere to get help. i said i've never felt this way before and i need to go somewhere. and i was told that i couldn't. that it wouldn't be good for the institution. >> cory, what were your thoughts when you heard her say that? i mean, the fact that she went through it is enough, but to be able to tell the world that? >> you know, someone tweeted that, and i know the institution and the royal family likes to say that the crown is not real,
but someone tweeted last night, i think they've since deleted it, they felt the crown had been very gracious to the royal family and in their depictions because it reminded me deeply of the scenes about diana and what she was going through and to hear that from meghan markle, the talk about it, and it is one thing that she's sharing as a mother, or soon to be a mother that she wants to harm herself and she didn't want to be here and simply because this country and the way that the tabloids are set up and the way they sell their papers and their news is to literally destroy her and destroy her based on the fact that she's an outsider that has come into this family and that she's biracial. i mean, that is in itself, those are two things she cannot -- she can't stop being biracial. she's married this man who is clearly the love of her life and he loves her. and what do you do with that?
it is one thing to have a negative comment in your -- on your instagram, but when the whole country is seemingly against you, that has got to be -- i commiserate with her. >> and you bring up the crown, and here we are in the year 2021. so imagine a conversation between a senior member of the royal family as harry described it, and him raising the skin tone of a child, whether i imagine it would be too dark in their view. tell me your reaction to that. i was just shaking my head that those words are uttered in the 21st century. >> well, you know, amongst black folks, we know that feeling or that sentiment very well. i mean, it goes back to the one drop rule. a lot of black people, families may deal with that if you've married, if you're light and you've married someone dark, there may be people in your family who say i wonder what kind of -- literally the same
thing what their skin color is going to be, that way. but when you look at someone like meghan, although she's biracial, she's very light. and harry -- and to even question it. and just in 2021, why should that even matter. here it is your grandson, your heir, your blood line and married someone and he's happy and you've seen several other family members when they get into relationships that don't work out well, that seems to be that is a worse message that goes out to the world, that these people, these couples are broken, but here it is a couple that is truly in love and the thing that you want to question is their skin tone. it's ridiculous. it is truly ridiculous. especially today. especially today. >> yeah. >> and the palace has yesterday to say a word about it. they have to answer to all of
those questions. >> i'm -- waiting how they're going to answer that. and i would like to say the fact that harry would not say makes me think it was someone extremely close to him and he wants to -- to how i read it is that he's protecting a family member. but unfortunately, if you have a number of people in the black community, they know that conversation all too well. especially families who have a range of color in their family. >> hopefully this prompts some really important, difficult conversations in other families as well. cory, thank you so much for your insight and max foster for your reporting as always. >> if you or a loved one need help, call the national suicide prevention hotline, 800-273-8255. again that is 800-273-8255. we'll be right back.
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let's talk about this plan, dr. mark galley is the secretary of california department of health and human services -- there you are. it was dark for a moment. i was worried i would talk into a black box. so we're glad you're here, doctor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so, this is important, obviously. i just wonder, what is your benchmark for success here? because some could have said we knew that this was going to happen and we should have allocated vaccines for this at the jump. so what is going to tell you this is succeeding. >> we track on which communities are getting vaccinated and we expect to see with this allocation and many other interventions to support getting people to the vaccine site, make sure they get to their second shot as well, making sure we break through on outreach and education, all of that together we want to see the numbers in the hardest hit communities in
california reach vaccine levels of and exceed those communities that have so far received a high level of vaccines. >> dr. ghaly, in your experience, what portion of this is access and how does vaccine hesitancy contribute to this issue? >> well, access is key in making sure that we have the site set up which in california we fweel increasingly we have. it is about supply of vaccine and getting it into the communities, on hesitancy what we're learning more and more is that there are still a number of californians with brown and black in particular with the right level of education, outreach engagement that there is a hesitancy, and a willingness to get vaccinated to protect their communities and support the state and make sure that they themselves and their families are safe. >> doctor, i want to ask you a piece of reporting that a friend of mine did at nbc a few weeks
ago and they were there in california speaking with farm workers, all of them from the latin x community. and the challenge that the workers were running into saying the state said they were qualified to get the vaccine. but when they went on the website, the portal kept, when they click the box of their occupation, it kept saying you're not qualified. that was a huge issue for them. has that been fixed? >> well, so, absolutely. we know farm workers, all individuals in the food and agricultural industry are eligible for vaccination in california, who are working to make sure that access is robust because we get more supply hopefully in the next many weeks that people will go on to our portal to sign up and figure out where not only when but where they could get vaccinated. and that is certainly getting better and better each day. >> dr. ghaly, as the daily vaccination rate increases, as a
country, we almost hit 3 million over the weekend per day, are you seeing these equity issues become less severe over time? as the rate goes up, are you seeing more people in all communities getting vaccinated? >> no, it is still pretty uneven. i think the communities that we expected would be easier to vaccinate are that much easier with more supply. that is why in california we're going to target the vaccine to the communities and not just send it to the communities and providers in the communities but do more to make sure that the arms that live in those communities are the ones that are vaccinated. >> could i just, before we go just quickly go back to the question about the website. it is great that you're trying to fix it in the next few weeks or every day your trying. i just wonder, isn't that critical for this community you're targeting with these extra doses of a vaccine. if they can't get through on a website to sign up for an appointment, they can't get the vaccine you have. >> so, the website itself has
gotten better. that said, we're also employing other strategies where we reserve appointment blocks for certain communities working with, for example, the farm worker employers and other partners to make sure that those appointments are not just available at large on the website, but really targeting individuals who work in these high risk industries and seven seventy -- setting. so it is not the only option to get an appointment and we've seen more success more and more here in california. >> good. >> a lot of places try to have trouble getting this online. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.
well just in jury selection in the trial of the former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin. charged of course in the killing of george floyd has now been de laid after the judge released the jury for the day. >> right. so the judge just minutes ago granted this recess because of a battle over potential third-degree murder charge against chauvin in the death of floyd. let's bring in our legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. so this comes from an appellate court, i believe, that said that they need to include this third-degree murder charge. what does this mean for how this trial will proceed? like how long will this delay jury selection, do you think? >> yeah, good morning to you, poppy and jim. so early indications are that this will delay it at least a day. the judge dismissed the jury indicating that they should come back. so there is a lot happening as it relates to the charges. what is that? so briefly let's talk about it.
we know that he's facing at least two charges. one is second-degree inintentional murder and then the second is manslaughter. what it means, second-degree murder, unintentional, if your committing another felony like assault and that person happens to die, that is on you, unintentional murder and could get you 40 years, as it relates to manslaughter, that is more of your acting in a negligence way where you consciously disregard the risk that your careless and negligent behavior could cause a death. so that is problematic. that gets you 10 years. the third-degree murder charge briefly relates to something that is called the prafed indifference. if i take a gun and i fire it into a crowd. i create an unreasonable risk for a number of people, one of those people dies, that is third-degree murder. the issue legally was whether or not third-degree murder could
dep comply when your indifference is applicable to one person. the knee was on the neck as to one person. so if it is applied to a crowd of people when i act depraved, how you could apply it to one. the appeals court said you can, and that is what the dispute is about. >> so joey, i don't have to tell you, historically, it is been difficult to convict police officers in killings, even when the circumstances to many of us look quite clear. does keeping a third-degree option or multiple options here, manslaughter, murder, second and third-degree murder, make a conviction more likely? in other words to give the jury a path, in effect, to a charge that they might not be able to reach again based on the law, we know how the laws are written when it comes to cops. >> so, jim, that is absolutely right. what happens is whenever your prosecuting a case and you have
a smaorgasbord, that is important. because if the jury finds that the unintentional murder, that is chauvin that we're looking at there, engaged in an assault, that would led the second-degree murder charge be an acquittal. if the jury, however, finds that there was negligence, right, meaning that he consciously disregarded a risk that that behavior could cause a death, then it at least you get that charge. with the addition of the third-degree murder charge, if there is to be one, now you get the depraved indifference. you see a leaning on the neck, is that depravity and does that, since it is applicable to one person, still legally make out the charge, the court said yes. so in answer to your question, the more charges there is for consideration, the more it would be for a jury to potentially reach a verdict of guilt under the agreed to circumstances that we have here. >> well, joey jackson, we know you're watching this closely. we certainly will bring all of the news as it happens. thanks very much. well calls are growing louder, even among some
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andrea stewart cousins, the highest ranking democrat said he should resign for the good of the state. alexandria field has been following the details. tell us the details of the latest allegations. what do they involve actually? >> absolutely. the pressure is mounting as a result of the allegations that we're seeing over the weekend. they come from a third and a fourth former aide to the governor who say that he acted inappropriately with them. karen hinten telling "the washington post" about an incident that occurred more than 20 years ago when she was served as a paid consultant who was then at hud saying that she was inside of a los angeles hotel room with him when he embraced her in a way that she said lasted too long and was too intimate. the governor responded to those allegations over the weekend, flatly denying hinton's accusations. they come as anna list was
speaking to the "wall street journal." she said he was inappropriate with her during her tenure with the administration, calling her sweetheart and asked if she had a boyfriend and kissing her hand as she got up from her desk. cuomo has responded to those allegations saying they were comparable to interactions we had with dozens of staff members over a period of decades. i strongly denies inappropriately touching any woman. but he apologizes if he made anyone feel uncomfortable. that said, on the question of whether he would consider resigning, the governor is saying this. >> i was elected by the people of the state. i wasn't elected by politicians. i'm not going to resign because of allegations. the premise of resigning because of allegations is actually anti-democratic. the system is based on due process. and the credibility of the
allegation. anybody has the ability to make an allegation in democracy and that's great. but it is in the credibility of the allegation. >> due pros assist cording to cuomo means allowing state's attorney general letitia james to conduct her investigation into allegations but you can't underscore the significance of the senate majority leader calling for a resignation and the senate assembly speaker falling short of a call for resignation. >> alex, appreciate the developments. thanks for joining us today. we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. "newsroom" with kate bolduan starts right after a quick break.
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