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eight people killed in shootings at three spas in metro atlanta. one suspect is in custody. cnn is live from the scene. president biden visiting a place in pennsylvania in part of his tour to promote the nearly $2 trillion relief that didn't get a single republican vote. also tonight, president trump including americans including supporters to get vaccinated. that as medical experts fear states are easing up their covid-19 restrictions too fast as a highly contagious variant of the virus spreads quickly in the united states. let's get right to our breaking news. talking about those shootings at three spas in georgia, leaving at least eight people dead. two shootings in northeast atlanta and one in northwest. one northwest of the city in cherokee county. a suspect in cherokee county,
and the shooting there has been taken into custody. so let's go right to cnn's ryan young. the fbi assisting in this investigation. what can you tell us? >> actually, don, we know that robert long has been arrested in this case. we're told he's 21 years old. that's what the sheriff's department released the information earlier in the evening. what we do know, there was a chase involved and the georgia state patrol used a pit maneuver. that's when a trooper uses his car to bump the suspect's car to send it out of control the take that man into custody. we're not sure if he said anything to authorities about the motive behind the case but police from several different jurisdictions are working the theory that all these shootings are connected. as i step out of way, you can still see the active crime scenes. they started at 5:00. we know they happened in cherokee county where four people were shot and killed. and then there are two different scenes here. if you look far to your left, you can see that one spa right
here. and then across the street there is another shooting scene. detectives and the medical examiner's office are still out here gathering up evidence even at this late hour. we do believe there is a ton of video surveillance. that's how the cherokee county sheriff's department was able to put out that image early on. they knew suspect was driving a black hyundai. we know the sheriff's department has be released any information about the victims there because they're trying to notify next of kin. here we know the race. four people who were shot here. four asian women. the spas here all located pretty close. but the working theory now is that all these cases are connected and of course, we'll go to the video and try to figure out exactly how this suspect was connected to all these locations. >> so ryan, listen, obviously we don't want to get ahead of the investigation. but we've seen a disturbing rise in attacks against asian-americans lately document officials think that could be a
factor in the shootings? we've been reporting on these anti-asian crimes all over the country. what's going on here, do they think? >> absolutely. and i think you can tell that we're trying to be very careful in terms of not getting ahead of the investigators. it seems like that played some role in this in terms of the victims involved. was it that he was a customer in some of these places? was he targeting these people for a specific reason? obviously cherokee county is 47 minutes away from here. you have to think about drive time, traffic, he drove to this location. he went into one location, then went across the street to another location. was he targeting someone in particular or looking for someone of a specific race? that's something they'll break down. the governor of georgia releasing a statement saying that his hearts and prayers go out to the families involved in this and he's thanking law enforcement for the quick am
rehengs of the suspect. with so many questions at this hour, i don't think we thought we would be here at this point when we first started this case when they had all the shell casings outside. and we were hearing from people in the area saying there was screaming and yelling. now we know a suspect is under arrest. we don't know when the first court appearance will be and whether or not he's talking on investigators. they're obviously probably asking those really important questions. >> in these times, it's a worthwhile question. thank you. i appreciate it. i want to turn to a whole lot of headlines for the president, joe biden tonight. let's go to john and ron. gentlemen, good evening to you. good to see you. >> let's start with voting rights. the former president is admitting that demorepublicans t win if democrats pass the bill. the current president, biden,
says he supports an old-fashioned talking filibuster. something will have to give here. which one do you think it will be? >> there will be some form of filibuster reform. when it happens, how it happens is tbd. you have to understand, the filibuster itself has been used and abused and escalated in reason years, well beyond the way it was back in the day. this has been misused at different times in our history for sure. folks have in their mine, mr. smith goes to washington talking in the senate well. now it is a procedural item that can be done with very little pain, one vote. so what biden is saying, let's reform the filibuster to get this done and there are a lot of ways to do it. you could put the onus to get 41 votes. you could say it has to be in person. there has to be skin in the game. what it can't be is a total blocking of the agenda. >> we've discussed this before
about how much the current president had work with the other side, who have been obstruction. i, obstructionists, right? but they've said joe biden will have an epiphany with them and start working together. >> that will be, yeah, that will be his position. he is positioning himself almost as a figure above politics. the appointment where the two parties come together. almost an eisenhower kind of figure and it is very good positioning for him. you can see it in the 28 president is reacting to the first months in his party. how do they act on this? there is no willingness of republicans to work with him on almost anything they care about. as john noted, as you noted, where it will come to a head above all. on the question of voting
rights. voting rights were explosive enough to begin with. but now they're against the back drop of not a neutral back drop, but the choice between democrats is either you go ahead and establish a federal floor of voting rights for all americans, or you can acquiescing in the broadest wave of voter suppression since jim crow. and that's the issue on which the filibuster will come the a head. >> joe biden was asked about the accusations against andrew cuomo. take a listen. >> if the investigation confirms claims of the women, should he resign? >> yes. a woman should be presumed to tell the truth and should not be scape goated and become victimized coming forward. number one. there should be an investigation to determine whether what she says is true. >> so here's a question, john.
this is all coming as new polls show that half of new york voters don't think that cuomo should resign. and the question is, can he ride this out if the public doesn't turn on him? you have all these haums saying he should resign. he's saying i'm not going to do it. half the voters say, don't. >> yeah. that poll is striking for all the reasons you just said. the mayor of new york's approval rating is a quarter of the number of people who think cuomo should resign. i think what's cheer, and the standard that biden is setting out, there should be no resignation before investigation. and that is a fair due process argument. i don't think anyone says she resign given this poll unless the investigation concludes and then he may jump before he's that you ared like nixon.
but there is nothing to pittsburgh this guy who is tough and a political animal will resign. it's just not in his dna. >> i have to ask you. folks are asking, what about the north effect? >> and the trump effect. you can imagine in a world before donald trump, that andrew cuomo faced pressure to resign already. but i think that poll reflects a view among at least some democrats that if republicans won't hold their elected officials to standards, why pre emearly? take your own pieces off the board. i think that gives him more leeway. if there is an investigation that provides corroboration, it not an infinite amount. in this world, in the post trump world, if you true i to tough it out, you at least have more of a chance than you would have
earlier. whether it good or bad for the country, i'm not sure. but i think a lot of democrats wonder about the double standards with so many elected officials who have faced charges. >> also the lesson some democrats took from the outing of al franken. >> all very fair assessments here. thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to bring in dr. jonathan reiner. good to see you for our nightly house call. thank you, doctor. so the cdc is warning that we are just weeks away from the u.k. variant becoming the dominant strain here in the u.s. there is a 64% higher chance of dying from this variant but less than 22% of americans have had at least one vaccine. are we losing critical time in this race right now? >> no.
i don't think we're using it. i think we're leading the world in vaccinations. we're finally doing really well. week after week, more vaccines are getting into arms. but i do think we're racing the variants. and if we ever needed incentives to double down on things that work, masks, social distancing, staying out of crowds, we should do that now. if we need incentive to get vaccines into articles, here it is. all three of the vaccines approved in the united states are very effective against the u.k. b.1.1.7 variant. if you get vaccinated, you'll be protected from the coronavirus. so let's get, all get vaccinated. about 27% of adults have had at least one shot.
about 75% of people over the age of 75, about 65% of people over the age of 65. so we're doing a pretty good job at getting vaccines into the most vulnerable. now we have to get shots into the people who are spreading the virus. that's the young people. we're starting to see states do that now. >> in 15 states, cases reported over the past seven days are up at least 10% from a week ago. and we're seeing new hot spots in minnesota and michigan where cases are more than 40% higher than last week. so how do you explain this rise? do you think it is restrictions? the boosting of restrictions? could it be the new variants? what's going on here? >> i think it is a combination. overall in the united states, compared to last week. we're still doing okay. cases are down about 5%. hospitalizations are down about 11%. and deaths are down a whopping
28%. you're right. in about 15 states, we have seen a bump up. i think there's a lot of pandemic fatigue. people are out and about more. people are traveling now. and we have more transmissible variants. again, more reason to keep mask mandates, keep wearing your masks and get vaccinate. so we're at a little bit of a tipping point. we get more vaccination, we can put more at bay. if we start to get careless or lose momentum in vaccination, we could see another surge. i don't think it is inevitable. >> we talked about especially republican men, right? not wanting to get the vaccine. the former president is finally
encouraging americans to get vaccinated. this is what he said on fox news. >> i would recommend it and i would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly. but again we have our freedoms and we have to live by that and i agree with that also. but it is a great vaccine. it is a safe vaccine. and it is something that works. >> is it, that we have our freedoms thing, i don't know why he has to throw that in there. we know that. duh! we've seen pundits push the lies about the vaccine. do you think trump's comments can still make a difference at this point? >> i hope so. i'm glad to hear him make this tepid response. there is always a little step backwards. he tells his supporters, he recommends the vaccine but you're free not to do it. this is three months after that
we started vaccinating people, the former president finally makes a statement about this. three months. >> three months. he lefgot vaccine. >> the cdc recommended all americans it. it would be three months before the president was seen wearing a mask. we've seen this before. and then only reluctantly. i was glad to hear him say, if he wants to do something really big, maybe he should start holding vaccination rallies around the united states. he can draw a crowd. the price of admission is a shot. >> and a mask. >> go around the country. go around the country, getting people to get vaccinated. >> thank you, doctor. appreciate it. i'll see you soon. >> thank you. news on just how far
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on this show we've been focusing on your vote and what it mean for democracy. today we have two stories that show it is threatened by our enemies abroad and some of our leaders at home. first overseas threat. a new report that showed russia meddled, that vladimir putin aims at operations to deny grate
president biden. undermining public confidence in the electoral process and exacerbating socio political divisions in the u.s. the report says there is no evidence that any actor did this. james clapper, so good to have you on. thank you so much. this report is the most comprehensive look that we have gotten into interference in the 2020 election and it makes clear the biggest threat our election faced was from russia. not china, as some in the trump administration claimed. this threat came right from putin. >> well, exactly. and whatever else you say about the russians, they're consistent. and in some almrespects, readin this version is very reminiscent of the report that we issued in
2017 which basically recounted the same behavior. and just as in 2016, we detected no evidence of interference with former tallies that appear or any of the evidence, whether it is voting registration, tabulating votes or reporting them, and we had a similar finding in the election of 2016 which we reported out in 2017. so lots of consistency here. and of course the other thing i note, it is very unlikely that this report would have come out if president trump were still in office. >> the biden administration is expected to announce sanctions soon. how different is the posturing the biden administration is taking in response to this compared to the trump administration where they handle russian aggression? >> well, that's an interesting
question. institutionally, the administration, the last administration was in some cases, pretty stiff with the russians. that was not the case with the president himself who at no time during his four years in office ever dined out putin personally, or the russians institutionally. so it is a little different, certainly in tone. perhaps not much difference in substance about what to do about the russians by way of punishing them. >> so director, one of russia's key goals was to sow doubt. they could not have asked for a better help than the former president and republicans in congress. the whole world saw our capitol building ransacked over the big lie that they're still keeping up. how do we fight threats to our democracy, still coming from within our own house? >> well, i think, don, you put your finger on the key issue
here. which is the assault on our democracy, both from external sources, as well as internal sources. and that is a very serious problem. and a demonstration of that, of course, are the 250 plus bills that have been composed in dominated legislatures across the country in some 43 states, which for me at least is an internal attack on our democracy to suppress the right to vote as well as the foreign assaults on our system. and of course, wasn't just the russians involved. at least the iranians were also involved in 2020. although there's no mention of how successful or effective the iranians were. but it was once again the russians. and this is a general trend
around the world. democracy is under assault in general. the irony is that the bastian of democracy in the united states where you wouldn't expect that to happen. >> director clapper, thank you so much. >> thank you and congratulations on the book. >> thank you. i really appreciate that. that means the world coming from you, director. thank you. i have so much almorespect for . you're one of my favorite guests. >> thank you. now the threat from our leaders at home. republicans across the country trying on roll back voting rights. more than 250 bills in 43 states would make it tougher to vote. georgia which flipped for biden and sent two democrats to the senate is ground zero. another one of my favorite guests is natasha brown, the co-founder of black voters matter. i appreciate all the hard work you do on behalf of every citizen in this country. every voting citizen. you believe that everyone should
have access. as many as possible. thank you for joining me. the georgia senate passed a sweeping election bill that would repeal no excuse absentee voting, limit mobile voting sites, cut back on early voting. what is going on there in georgia? >> what is going on is a punitive effort, led by the gop in the state to turn back the hands of time. that fundamentally what wound up happening, what we know in this last election cycle, we had historic turnout numbers. we had black voters coming out in record numbers which made a difference. they lost control. they have control of all the state house, the state senate, and the governor's office. so for them to lose as badly as they did, to lose in a presidential election and then on lose the two senate seats. the only way they believe they can recapture power and control in the state is quite frankly to
cheat and disenfranchise, particularly targeted at black voters. although it is rooted in racism, what they're after, it weakens democracy. so we're seeing it all across the country. and while it is happening in georgia, it will set a precedent that is extremely dangerous undermining democracy in this nation. >> georgia is one of 23 states where republicans controlled all the branches and all the levers. but they lost two senate seats and they lost the presidency. let's talk about your group now and what you're doing for these rights. calling on coke, delta, home depot, ups. some of the huge georgia companies to be more active in preventing these bills from passing. what would you like to see them
do? >> we want to hold them to their word. last sum where we had the george floyd uprising, all the companies came out and said they stood for racial equity. let me read to you what actually came out in the georgia chamber of commerce which all of these companies, coca-cola, aflac, home deep over, all of them are numbers. that we recognized that. needs to be done to remove the barriers that prevent people from realizing their potential. specially black americans. we welcome the opportunity to partner. they're making a statement. they made a statement that they recognized that they were attacked. that they recognized there were challenges and equity challenges in the state of georgia and all of this nation rooted in race. so what i would see, and i do think that all my partners, what we're saying now is that it can't just be, when we talk about racial equity. it can't be just make a nice statement because we're in the
heat of the moment but you have to put action behind your words. what we believe is that voting is not a part sandal issue. you can vote for whatever party you want to vote for but having access to the ballot is a democracy issue. it is good for businesses and corporations like ups that we've not heard from, like aflac that we've not heard from, coca-cola and home depot backtracked yesterday. really showing some leadership behind the racial equity statement and being able to stand on an issue clearly moving in racism and anti-democracy. >> as i am, i love your truth. and i love your passion. you're right. you can't just do lip service. you have to do the work. putting your money where your statements are. thank you. thank you. i'll see you soon. keep up the great work. we love having you here. a d.c. judge reversing a
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one of the men charged with taking part in the attack against officer michael fanone during the capitol riot is now back in jail and an alleged member of the extremist group, the three percenters. his daughter is claiming that he told her not to turn him in and traitors get shot. cnn's jessica schneider has the
latest. >> reporter: the man accused of viciously assaulting the d.c. police officer michael fanone is back in jail after a d.c. judge reversed the decision of a new york judge to let thomas go free. the chief judge ruling he blod belonged behind bars saying his actions were egregious and he showed no remorseful prosecutors say he was seen on police body camera footage attacking officer fanone who told cnn he had to fight for his life. >> they were screaming out, kill him with his own gun. i remember yelling out that i have kids. and it seemed to work. some people in the crowd started to encircle me and try to offer me some level of protection. >> the suspect is accused of stealing the police badge and radio, something that they say he lied to police about. he first claimed he left the badge in d.c. then he say he threw it in a
dumpster and finally admitted to burying it in his backyard. >> they stripped me of my gear. pulling my badge off my chest. they rimmed my radio. >> judge howell slammed his alleged actions saying stealing the life line of the radio to call for safety, it is just not acceptable. it is lawless behavior. also still behind bars after a court appearance today, guy. a member of the extremist paramilitary group and he drove washington with guns in his car days before january 6th and took part in the capitol attack, the body armor and carrying plastic cuff restraints. his children testified against him if court. his 16-year-old daughter detailed the comments she says her father made when he came home to texas after allegedly storming the capitol. she said he told her he would put a bullet through her cell phone if she posted about him on social media and if she or her brother turned him in, they
would be traitors and traitors get shot, his daughter testified. his 18-year-old son jackson told cnn's chris cuomo, he talked on police anyway. >> it felt like the right thing regardless of my emotions and how much i loved my family and my dad. i didn't think he would actually do anything bad. but him saying anything even remotely threatening to me and my sister and my family and government officials. it was just too much. >> prosecutors are now digging into exactlily who he is and if he was making any other violent plans. we've learned prosecutors have seized 28 devices from his home and they're considering any other charges including conspiracy. don? >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. tv's the bachelor taking on a big conversation about race after bachelor matt james learned about the controversial
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during the after the rose ceremony hosted by emmanuel acho, james said he had broken up with kirkconnell because of the controversial photos. she then apologized. >> i see someone who was living in this ignorance without even thinking about who it would be hurting. i think that people need to realize that just saying this is normal, where i came from or this is common where i came from, that doesn't make it right or okay. >> when i questioned our relationship, it was in the context of you not fully understanding my blackness. and what it means to be a black man in america. >> let's discuss now. emmanuel acho is here. he's a fox sports analyst,
co-hosting a live two-hour weekday show on fs 1. listen, this is more about, good evening, thank you, sir, i really appreciate you joining us, i tell you, i've never been interested in the bachelor until this controversy. it has a lot to do with what's happening in the culture right now. it is very important to watch. that was painful. i have to admit, to watch. i feel like we finally heard a really authentic conversation about race on the bachelor. and rachel, to me, you tell me how you feel, seemed sincere, open to learning. what did you think about her apology and the whole discussion? >> i thought the discussion was incredibly fruitful. i think we have to do a better job of dissecting in our country the difference between being overtly racist and being racially ignorant. i said her comments were racially insensitive, racially ignorant. that doesn't inherently make
someone a racist. were your intentions malicious? or were you ignorant? the big question is why are people still so ignorant? i think that the bachelor franchise, that specific incident was a microcosm of a larger macro issue in society where we see ignorance in play, and ignorance offends a group of people. now we have to do a better job understanding. because ignorance may be an explanation but it is no longer an excuse. >> right. and i've been saying since i've been promoting my book. you have to do the work. you can't just say we should be having these conversations. you have to do the work to even put a dent in this issue. chris harrison was the host of the show. he was removed after his comments defending rachel. and you've spoken with him and up that, and i quote here. people need to give him the opportunity, the grace and the time to do as i just mentioned, to do the work. talk to me about that. >> we have to give people room
for redemption. see, yes, we live in a society that now everybody is using the volatile terms like cancel culture. can we decipher the difference between being canceled and being held accountable? right, rachel kirkconnell took responsibility for her actions. chris harrison took responsibilities for his actions. for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. that's the law of society and common sense. let's all remember, just because one takes accountability doesn't mean they have been canceled. we've had many conversations, fruitful dialogue where i've encouraged him in preparing for the episode and i encouraged him to bring forth empathy and understanding. we have to do a better job of reconciling and giving people room for redemption. >> do you think chris has taken
accountability? listen, as i listened and watch rachel's apology, extremely sincere. i said what i said about that. it seems like she's willing to do the work and do the right path. but do you think his apology didn't ring as true and sincere as rachel's? >> the difference was rachel had a dialogue with me that was a little more long form. her and i sat on the couch in personal, mind you, for 14 minutes. i was able to respond to her thoughts and questions. chris had a conversation via zoom. we only saw five minutes of it. when you lose the interpersonal effect, don, you can have really genuine authentic conversations about volatile matters and expect to see the peak of that conversation over a zoom. that's very risky. that's why all my uncomfortable conversations with a black man, they all appear in person. i'm trying to bring everybody in
the best position to have understanding and the best position to be received so that the world can continue to learn how to give grace. >> this was supposed to be a pivotal season for the bachelor after 25 seasons. they finally had a cast. they cast their first black bachelor. i mean, it seems like they didn't understand that it is about more than just putting a black person on the show. how did this all go so wrong? >> well, wrong is, depending on who defines it. so i think that the bachelor was accurate but they were incomplete. meaning this. you have your first black bachelor, check, but the problem is, who is telling the stories? do you have black producers? black executive producers? do you have black people in the casting room casting a different variety of black people and black culture and other persons of color? so it is a matter of yes, they got the first black bachelor.
that's not enough. you put a band aid on something that might have needed reconstructive surgery. and i think we have to look again, macro picture of society. what's the difference between inclusion? they were accurate, but they were still incomplete and work still needs to be done. >> black people telling black stories. even if there is a black face in front, it all still matters. thank you very much. i appreciate you. and by the way, great job, all right? keep it up. it's good to have you on. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> listen, we do the same conversations that we're having here, emmanuel and i, that's what's in my new book. this is the fire. what i say to my friends about racism. it is out today and i hope you will check it out. meantime, the governor of california fighting back as he faces a major effort to recall him. he lclaim it is all political. what about me? and me? how about us?
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new tonight, california governor gavin newsom in the fight of his political life. newsom pushing back against a well funded effort to recall him, a process that could ultimately end his governorship. he says he is taking it seriously. >> we have the lowest threshold of the 19 states that allow a recall in the country. all you need is about a quarter of the people that voted for donald trump getting this recall petition to the voters this november. so i'm anticipating it guess on. we're taking it very seriously. this is the sixth, sixth recall
effort in just 25 months since i've been governor. this one appears because they got an extension from a judge to have the requisite signatures. and absolutely we're taking it seriously. >> so newsom is framing the recall as a republican-backed movement supported by anti-vaxxers, qanon, conspiracy theorists and anti-immigrant trump supporters. but recall organizers say their supporters account for a wide swath of californians, and tomorrow is the deadline for them to submit nearly 1.5 million signatures to the state's county registers for verification. organizers say that they have over two million signatures. once signatures are verified, a number of procedural steps will need to be taken to line up an election date, meaning there is still a ways to go for the governor. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues.
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