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rikki olds, her uncle shared stories. he talked about how she would snort when she laughed. we'll have more in just a minute. outside of king soopers, a memorial is growing by the hour, as new details are emerging about the hour of terror that unfolded. the killer was wearing some kind of tactical vest, according to eyewitnesses and shot an elderly man in the parking lot multiple times before he went into the story and took aim. dan simon is in boulder. i understand the suspected shooter will be in court tomorrow. >> reporter: that's right, brianna. he will have his initial court appearance. this will be a relatively brief appearance. he will be advised of the charges and told of his rights. in terms of what we know about the overall investigation, this
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is somebody, according to his brother, had a history of mental health issues. there could be a variety of reasons for that. he was allegedly bullied in high school for being muslim, and according to his brother, he became antisocial. and he was prone to temper tantrum, and you combine that with weapons, is it really surprising something like this could happen? in the meantime, we are in the front of the this incredible makeshift memorial. this is the most powerful expression of humanity you can possibly imagine. this wasn't even here 24 hours ago. the chain link fence went up, and all of thus flowers and carts were put here. it extends down a couple hundred yards right in front of the grocery store. you can see what some of these cards say -- i wish you courage for the next step.
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i wish you peace in the middle of the storm. i wish you unexpected joy. you can see what this one says, the everlasting is heritage and he shall rest peacefully. people saying prayers, people hugging. this is really the part of town where folks are embracing one another and grieving, and you really just can't believe the sights. you see some little kids here with their parents. you just think about a apparently having to explain to their child why they're even here, brianna. it just really cuts you up when you think about it. >> it certainly does, dan. thank you so much for showing us how the community is remembering the ten people who were lost in this grocery store shooting. we really appreciate it. dan simon in boulder. we are still piecing together the stories of these ten who
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were dilled. their family and friends are just starting to granle le -- grapple with the loss. we're also learning, more about conference mah-- kevin mahoney. her data tweeted about the special moment. >> my dad always wanted to hold back his tears in big life moments, like when he took me to the airport for college, but it's just his softness shining through in that moment, and i admire my dad so much. that's why i picked that photo, because i'm looking up at him,
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and i think one thing i want to share is my husband and i, before the pandemic, had planned a really big wedding, like 115-person wedding at a local winery in california. my dad wanted me to have this dream wedding, and everything was in line for that dream wedding. then when the pandemic hit, we obviously couldn't follow through with all those plans we had made. and so we thought about holding off for a year or so. instead, we just got married in our backyard and decided to tie the knot with just family, and now i'm just so grateful, because if we had waited, i don't know if he would have been here to walk me down the aisle. >> that is a memory they have.
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but now we have learned erika mahoney is pregnant, and her father will never have a chance to meet his grandchild. >> i loved her immediately. i think that's just what happened when people met her. she was a bright light, a peace lover, a strom feminist. she has the most incredible son she raised, imbuing him with the kinds of values i hope all our young men these days carries with them. that's a tribute to her. she had so many friends and kept them. we were friends for over 30 years. she was authentic, down to earth, a lovely hostest, boy,
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did you eat and drink well when you went to her house, a beautiful actress. it was a joy and an honor to work with her on stage, because she was so connected, so present, so generous. generosity was just in her cells. >> 65-year-old jody waters worked in retail, but had taken time off recently to care for her grandson. another retail store is where many people gathered to remember tralona bartkowiak. >> she was the backbone of this family, the backbone of that company. she helped raise me. she was also there for me. it's just really sad she's gone. it's unbelievable. she had the biggest heart, the most love person i have ever met in my life. it's just so devastating.
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62-year-old lynn murray retired to boulder after being an editor. her husband told "the washington post" she was the center of the family. she was the spiritual guide, the awareness and consciousness for all of us. she knew how to console and fix anything and make it better. she was endured. neven stanisic was born here in the u.s. he was hard-working, quiet, a role model for the young children in the church. rikki olds was a manager at the store. her co-workers said she had an infectious laugh, a fun-loving spirit. her uncle spoke about her this afternoon. >> she would come to the house
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and we would joke around. we would laugh. she would start laughing so heart, she would snort. she would probably likely to throw something at me for telling you guys like. she was a snorter when she laughed hard. i will really miss her. i will really miss that personality of hers. just her being around. she has a little brother who is taking this really tough, really tough. so please remember him in your thoughts and prayers. one of rikki's co-workers, logan smith witnessed her be shot. he says he was talking to one of the other victims, denny stong right before the shots rang out. >> he was my best friend, a brother to me.
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i saw him run off, i ran in the other direction. that's the last time i saw him. >> stong also worked at the store but only was there to get groceries. teri loved singing the songs from "frozen." many were heartbroken to hear of her loss. >> it wasn't until i saw rikki's face and teri's face that i realized, i interact with them on a daily basis. we are sad, but we are outraged. we are crying, but we are angry. my next guest knows that mix of sadness and anger all too we had. fred guttenberg's daughter jamie
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was killed in parkland, florida, in 201. he's a gun reform activist, also the author of "find the helpers, what 9/11 and parkland taught me." fred, we keep having this conversation. i like talking with you, but it feels like we keep having this conversation. you have made this your mission to for a i got for gun safety, made it your mission for family members to not go through what you have gone through, yet we keep seeing it happen over and over again. the main question i have for you is, what is it going to take? we saw some of what was going to take in parkland to get in changes, but what is it going to take to really get change so that this is no longer acceptable? >> you know, i watched the pre-segment and the videos of
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the memorial that have become normal and commonplace in america. listens to the daughter mahoney -- i forget her first name -- a daughter who talked about being walked down the aisle, and thankfully they chose to do that, and her dad won't ever get to meet her baby. i won't get to walk my daughter down the aisle or meet my grandparents. what will it take? i think every american should watch the senate hearing from yesterday, and should be prepared to go and tell every senator, you either vote for gun safety or we're voting you out. we saw yesterday the signs. we saw one side that was prepared to defend us, prepared to do the work to save lives. we saw another side that make this a charade, that lied, that said those of us who want to do
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something about safety, we're here to take your guns. we're here to rip apart the second amendment. it was a lie, it was b.s. every american should watch it. the truth is this has nothing to do with the second amendment. lives are at stake. we either do what we have to do to lower that -- listen, the past two elections, americans have voted for gun safety. people better wake up, because we're going to get this done. >> when does it change? you know, the intransigence we see in congress is not reflected in the polls about some measures when it comes to gun safety. there seems to be some agreement -- i mean, we just talked with an expert, a psych psychiatrist, who was looking at the apa's prescription of these community teams that would marry mental health outreach and look at that element of things. you know, are these groups you talking past each other so that they don't have to do anything about this?
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>> you know, listen, i think these groups are talking past each other. i think everybody is trying to do everything we need to do at a grass-roots level, and we're being held up by folks in the senate who refuse to do their jobs. it's time to either get rid of the filibuster or bring back the talking filibuster. we don't allow people like senator cruz -- or i'm blanking on the name from louisiana -- senator kennedy -- we don't allow people like them to spew b.s. anymore. we don't allow them to lie about what gun safety is. we move on without them. yesterday they became irrelevant. we have to remind america every second right now that only one week ago the nra was celebrating
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what they called victory in colorado when they successfully used a legal challenge to undo the assault weapons ban. only days later, the weapon that was used was purchased. we can't let up. we have to succeed. too many lives are at stake. too many future weddings and where parents don't get to see children walk down the aisle are at stake. enough is enough. >> that assault weapons ban was in boulder, right? i do just want to be clear -- >> you're correct. >> it was purchased somewhere else. >> correct. >> which bring me to another question. you have states up against other states. i spoke with a colorado state rep yesterday who lost his child in the aurora movie theater shooting. the point he brought up was, you know, you don't get a gun in colorado. you go over to wyoming. >> correct.
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>> the specific problem, fred, appears to be being able to anticipate in particular which people will be more inclined to do something like this. that seems to be very difficult. just hearing from reports from family members afterwards, you know, there's mixed records on whether they thought this could ever happen. in the case of parkland, it seemed like there were so many red flags, right? how was that missed? what do you say to that when it comes to this very difficult tasks, especially in a free society, of pin pointing the flags. >> there were red flags. in spite of the red flags, there was nothing law enforcement
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could do to make the killer of my daughter buy that weapon. we did change laws that can be done today. we need to start putting in place laws that make it harder for those who are a risk to themselves or others to be able to pull off that risk. let's have national red flag laws. let's do something about strengthening background checks on weapons and ammunition. the failure is, none of it is happening on a national level. things are happening in cities and states across this country, but gun safety is only as good as the closest border. you know, new jersey, as part of their gun safety laws about two years ago, they started monitoring where every weapon used in a crime is coming from. about 70% were coming from out of state. so we need a national effort.
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it's not enough to do this on a local level anymore. there's 400 million weapons already on the streets of america. we need a national effort to make sure we're doing everything we can to protect lives. i hate to say this. it is inevitable and predictable that gun violence will continue, our failure to start doing anything only means it will get even worse. we can't wait. >> you are part of a unique constituency of people who have lost loved ones. i noticed -- i saw on twitter that you had sent a tweet to someone, telling them -- someone -- i think it might have been erika -- look, you can dm me, the state represent, same thing, they were reaching out to folks in boulder. he said, i know what today is like. i know what last night was like.
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what did you think when you saw -- what was it like for you when you saw this happen and you were thinking of people being where you were two years ago? >> i read her tweets yesterday, and my first thought was of my daughter. listen, i tell people across this country now who have been impacted by this, whenever i meet them, i hate that i know you, but i love you. i'm here for you. the truth is, right now they're going through -- i remember the feeling of being broken, being shattered, of the world spinning a million miles a minute. you lost who you loved the most. you have to plan a funeral. you have to hold up other family members and be held up by other family members. you have to potential be there
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for those who are having an even harder time than you. everything is just out of place. for a while it's going to be that way, but i also want them to know, minute by minute, day by day, life goes forward. things will continue. you will be okay. i want hopefully to have the chance to speak to someone like erika, to let her know what my experience was, that she's going to be okay, and what to expect in the days, weeks and months ahead, so i can help her to be okay, and to anyone else who goes through this. fred, you are a testament to your daughter. thank you so much for coming on and sharing your perspective on this. we really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate you. next, we are live on capitol hill, trying to learn where we
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is. the two mass shootings have -- vice president kamala harris called on congress to act now.
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>> i would have thought sandy hook. when babies were slaughtered. they did not act. they did not act. it is time for congress to act, stop with the false choices. this is not about gets rid of the second amendment. it's simply about saying we need reasonable gun safety laws. there's no reason why we have assault weapons on the streets of a civil society. they are weapons of war, designed to kill a lot of people quickly. >> joining us is chief congressional correspondent manu raji, and jeff zeleny. president biden is calling for an assault weapons ban, stronger background checks. is he going to wait for congress? does he have the capacity to do any executive actions of his own? >> reporter: we are learn from white house officials that he will move on two tracks.
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the white house insists he's going to urge the senate to take up adoption of the two house-passed bills largely pertaining to background checks. you may wonder why operate on both tracks. a, the executives actions are much more likely to succeed. president biden knows this better than virtually anyone else. he was leading the way in the obama administration in the wake of the sandy hook tragedy as vice president harris was saying on cbs. 20 young children were gunned down. and one of the things they are purr seeing is an expansion of background checks by executive action. one thing we're told is they're looking at ghost guns, guns homemade without a serial number. they can also pursue another variety of methods, including when someone does not pass a
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background check, they alert authorities. it's clear these conversations are really just starting in the wake of the shooting earlier this week, and last week, where 18 people have been killed in the last week alone. >> manu, what about in congress? is there any sign of being able to do anything? >> the short answer is no. there are proposals that are on the table, but there aren't proposals that have enough support to pass the united states senate. there are two bills that passed the house earlier this month, both of which would expand background checks, one of which would require background checks on all commercial gun sales as well as private transfers, like universal background checks bill. that proposal does not even have the majority of support of ds. right now one democratic senator, joe manchin, opposes those house-passed bills. but even if they were to somehow
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get joe martialing on board, they don't have the 60 votes needed to overcome a republican-led filibuster. republicans are universally opposed to the background check bills. there is some support for a narrower bill, one which was attempted in the it aftereffects of the sandy hook -- the toomey bill would have commercial sales over the internet and gun sales, would not apply to private transfers, but that manchin/toomey plan does not have the 60 votes itself. i've talked to a number of republicans. they just philosophically are opposed to moving forward. so the question now becomes, will ds do anything like change the rules to advance legislation, to expanse background checks, something that a lot of folks on the left are pushing. there's just not the support to even do that. joe manchin, i spoke to today,
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virtually every day of the last few weeks, he's not moving off his position. so brianna, the short an to your question is no, despite these mass shootings we have seen over the last week or so, that has not changed the math they're on capitol hill. >> it's astounding. manu, thank you. jeff, thank you so much. a year of war with the coronavirus has left hospitals in shambles. a new report reveals the realities on the ground. we'll have more, next. i'm a verizon engineer, part of the team that built 5g right. the only one from america's most reliable network. we designed our 5g to make the things you do every day, better. with 5g nationwide, millions of people can now
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president biden has just spoken. let's listen to those remarks. >> one is we've got ourselves a secretary welcome. thanks for being willing to do this. >> thank you. >> i really appreciate it. also, today i have -- i want when we became a team and got elected that the vice president's going to be the last person in the room. she didn't realize that means she gets every assignment. but the vice president and i and all of us here have been working very hard to pass the
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legislation that is going to beat this virus, as well as get people back to work and change their prospects. so she's traveled all over the country working on that. in addition to that, there's about five other major things she's handling, but i have asked the vp today -- because she's the most qualified person to do it -- to lead our efforts with mexico and the northern triangle, and the countries that help -- we're going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming the migration to our southern border. you know, back when i was vice president, i got a similar assignment, but one of the things we did was we made sure that we got a bipartisan agreement with democrats and
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republicans to provide over $700 million to the countries in the northern triangle to determine the best way to keep people from coming is keep them from wanting to leave. the reason why so many people were leaving, we learned, was that not only gang violence and trafficking and cartels, but natural disasters, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes. so it's not like someone sits around -- somewhere in guatemala and says i have a great idea, let's sell everything we have, give the money to a coyote, have them take us to the border of america, leave us in a desert, we can't speak the language, won't that be fun. one of the ways we learned is if you deal with the problems in country, it benefits everyone.
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it benefits the people and grows the economies there. unfortunately the last administration eliminated that funding, and did not engage in it, did not use it, even though there was over $700 million to help get this done. we're reinstituting that program. like i said, there are many factors as to why people leave in the first place. this is the -- this is the source of one of the reasons why we've had such a -- before we took office, in the midst of the last administration's somewhat draconian policies separating children from their parents, et cetera, what happened was that we found that there was a serious spike up people heading to the southern border even in the midst of that. as alejandro can tell you, that
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was because there were serious natural disasters that occurred in those countries. they were coming north, and we did nothing to do much about it. so this new surge we are dealing with now started with the last administration, but it's our responsibility to deal with it humanely and to stop what's happening. so this increase has been consequential, but the vice president's agreed, among multiple other things, and i appreciate it, have agreed to lead our diplomatic effort, work with those nations to accept the returnees and enhance migration policies at their border. at their borders. we're going to be dealing with a full team to see the problem here at home, but also to deal with it now in terms of in
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country. i can think of nobody who's better qualified to do this than a former -- this is a woman who ran the second largest attorney's office in america after the united states attorney general, in the state of california, and has done a great deal with human rights, but also fighting organized crime in the process. so it's not her full responsibility or job, but she's leading the effort. i think the best thing to do is put someone who, when he or she speaks, they don't have to wonder where the president is. when she speaks, she speaks for me. she doesn't have to check with me, she knows what she's doing, and i hope to move this along. madam vice president, thank you. i gave you a tough job. you're smiling, but -- >> thank you, mr. president, and having the confidence in me.
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there's no question that this is a challenging situation, as the president has said, there are many factors that lead these people to leave the countries. while it's clear they should not come to the border now, we also understand we will enforce the law and also, because we can walk and chew gum at the same time, we address the root causes that cause the people to make the trek. i look forward to engaging in diplomacy with government, with the private sector, with civil society, and the leaders of each in el salvador, gawd malla, and hon guatemala, and honduras. we will collaborate, and at part of this effort, we expect -- i
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also look forward to working with the congress who i think share our perspective on the need to address root causes of the migration that we've been seeing. needless to say the work will not be easy, but it is important work, it is work we demanded and the people of our countries i believe need to help stem the tide that we have seen. so thank you, mr. president, for your confidence. thank you. >> thank you for being willing to do it. now we'll get down to business, and who am i turning this over to? >> thank you very much, mr. president. i think it's time for the press to leave, though. [ inaudible question ] >> thank you very much.
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all right. i want to get to jeff zeleny there at the white house. the big headline here, jeff, is that the vice president is being tasked by president biden to really be the point person when it comes to immigration, to stem the influx of migrants coming across the border and deal with the factors driving them away from mostly northern triangle countries. >> reporter: that is the key headline here. vice president hearris is gettig this new assignment, first and foremost, to address the surge in unaccompanied minors that the administration is dealing with, really has been dealing with for several weeks. one key point of this, this means that president biden is elevating this. this white house is taking this very seriously. they know that immigration is an issue that can spiral and certainly complicate other matters.
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so this is showing that they're taking it seriously. he also said, look, when she speaks, it's clear to those countries that she is speaking to me. she does not have to get to the president's word on this. so this is important in a couple fronts. one, showing that president biden taking the rise in unaccompanied minors very seriously, as this administration is trying to find umain solutions, but it's also for vice president harris, the first key assignment in her portfolio. it's one that mimics then vice president joe biden was also tasked with doing back in 2014 and 2015, when he traveled down to guatemala and el salvador, and really worked with the root causes of the unaccompanied minors at that point. this also underscores how cyclical this is, the rise of migrants is something that occurs most springtimes, certainly climate change is changing issues on the ground there in centering america even more so than the last time when
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president biden was on the ground there. but certainly he has that in mind when he's asking her to take on this big important assignment. jeff zeleny, thank you. senator bernie sanders, up next, says donald trump's sorbed media ban should be lifted. hear his reasoning, just ahead. [drum beat and keyboard typing] ♪ ♪ ♪ [keyboard typing] ♪ [trumpet] [keyboard typing]
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there are a bit of concerns, because a lot of folks are still not wearing masks, they're not social distancing. do you see this at a turning point here, or is that preventing us from fully being at a turning point? >> it can depend, brianna, on how this information is pack agd and how people are receiving it. yes, finally good news. on the other hand, are new surges in infections, plus we're not seeing vaccine rollout across the u.s. at exactly the we would like and there's a big disparity on who is getting vaccine and who's not, as far as poverty and rural access. that concerns me because we are in many places seeing people kind of go back to some kind of normal, as if the pandemic is over, when we are very much
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still in the pandemic. this vaccination news is great, it reassures us but it makes me anxious that if they're working, please, let's roll them out to the many millions of people still in line. >> and the inspector general put out this the report. they surveyed 300 hospitals and found medical staff are burned out. many are suffering from ptsd. there has been a higher than normal turnover rate, and to boot, public trust in hospitals has eroded. what needs to be done to help health care providers here? >> some really basic things, to be honest. it's almost embarrassing to say. ppp access isn't equal across the state. we're more than a year into this and there are still health care workers reewing ppp designed to just be used once. this issue of burnout amongst
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health care workers is not brand-new. it wasn't just because of the pandemic. it's a long-standing issue of fatigue as far as moral injury. and we're going to need more investment in health care workers to make sure they have those basics, everyone's getting vaccinated as they should be, they're having their ppp and the psychological support is there and for the long term. this has been like a war for health care workers and such a backlash as well from members of the public who thought doctors are spreading hoaxes or pushing vaccines. that's been really difficult to witness. of course, we've lost hundreds of health care workers to covid-19 as well. i see long-term implications to this. and we're going to really need to make sure we give health care workers the support they need. >> yes, indeed. thank you so much for touching upon that. dr. yasmin, really appreciate it. senator bernie sanders is going to the coming of former president trump, kind of. in a podcast interview with
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columnist ezra cline, sanders was asked about giving trump the boot. >> look, you have a former president in trump who is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, a pathological liar, an thorn, somebody who doesn't believe in the rule of law. this is a bad news guy. but if you're asking me do i feel particularly comfortable that the president -- the then president of the united states could not express his views on twitter? i don't feel comfortable about it. now do you want the internet to be used for thorn purposes and insurrection, if you like? no, you don't. how you balance that, i don't know but it's an issue we have to be thinking about because if anybody thinks yesterday it was donald trump who was banned and tomorrow it could be somebody else who has a very different point much view.
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i don't like giving that much power to a handful of high-tech people. but th but. >> joining me to talk about this is brian stelter, the host of "reliable sources." this is such an interesting answer from bernie sanders, brian, because, you know, obviously he says he has a lot of problems with what donald trump says, but it's about putting this power in the hands of big tech, which clearly he has concerns about. >> yes. and this is a debate that needs to be had. remember, trump was banned in the immediate aftermath of the riot. the concern was about, quote, further risk of incitement of violence. there was a clear reason why twitter banned him, because of violation of rules. but looking at that a couple months later, it's worth re-examining and needs to be re-examined, as trump said, about possible folks in the future. not just trump.
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not many democrats have questioned twitter's decision so sanders is showing some independence, as he often does. tomorrow twitter ceo jack dorsey will be testifying on capitol hill at a hearing called disinformation nation. this is about other companies pressuring big tech to rein next treem hate and bogus content on their platforms. the push and pull conditions with republicans crying censorship, democrats calling for more restrictions. sanders, a democrat, saying, we need to think long and hard about these decisions because so much power is concentrated in the hands of these companies. and bthat is absolutely true. this debate needs to be continued to be had. >> on the one hand you have these companies saying, we're not going to give this person a platform, we're not going to give these kind of views a platform, but when twitter bans voices like that, you can argue they seek out other platforms to share their views. those are platforms that may be
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friendlier, but more importantly, these are dedicated streams of information that are siloed from other input, right? i mean, certainly everyone gets to choose what they look for on twitter, but this just speaks to the complexity of this issue of creating echo chambers. >> absolutely. trump is out there right now talking about maybe launching his own platform. i'm skeptical he'll actually do it. it will cost a lot of money, hard to gain users but he's talking about it. there have been right-wing social networks trying to cater to trump's fans. these are about power and control and it's good sanders is bringing this up. >> brian, thank you so much. brian stelter. next, heartbreaking new details about the victims of the boulder mass shooting. we're learning more about the suspect's first court appearance, set for tomorrow. and we are live from colorado next. scuff defense... so that you can live that scuff-free life. honey, i'm home from my really important job! scuff defense.
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