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and also anthony blinken touching down in kabul, this after president biden announced he sending america's longest war. they're pulling out all of the u.s. troops by september 11th. we're hear from the adviser in just a moment. but let's go to adrienne broaddus in minnesota. good morning, adrienne. a second-degree charge of manslaughter against kim potter. >> reporter: that's right. it carries up to a maximum of ten years in prison here in minnesota or a $20,000 fine. when protesters learned about that manslaughter charge, some of them snapped their fingers and cheered, but the celebration was brief and it was followed up with this is a step in the right direction, but we want more, people in the community saying daunte is gone, he can't come back. his family will never be able to hold him again.
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and so the community wants to see a murder charge. meanwhile the officer who spent years building her career here was booked into the hen pip county jail, which is about eight miles from here. about six hours after she was taken into custody, she bonded out on a $100,000 bond. ben crump, he's one of the attorneys representing t ing wright family, echoing their sentiment. they want accountability. as you mentioned, officer kim potter will appear before a judge via zoom today. this morning barricades are surrounding her home. poppy and john? >> adrienne broaddus for us in brooklyn center. we want to bring in cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor elie honig.
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elie, i want to start with you on the charge of manslaughter for cikimberly potter, second-degree manslaughter, which in minnesota is applied when a person causes culpable dealt and takes unreasonable risk and causes great bodily harm to another. why are we seeing this charge and what does it say to you? >> john, at a minimum, it's a starting point for prosecutors. you start with the most easily provable charge and you can add from there. there's no reason to think this is the end of it. in the derek chauvin case, the prosecutors started with this exact same charge and third-degree murder charge and later added second-degree. did the officer create an undue risk of harm to somebody else. and i want to stress this. something can be both accidental and negligent at the same time.
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to make an example, if somebody drives heavily under the influence and kills somebody, that may have been an accident. however, getting behind the wheel in that state, they may have created an undue risk here. those two things are not necessarily exclusive of one another. >> hans, as someone who focuses on police training and police equity, the fact that officer potter had not only 26 years of service but was actually that day training a rookie cop, was out showing, this is how you do it, and had a lot of experience obviously with guns versus tasers, what is your reaction to this charge. >> well, first, i have to say as always, my heart goes out to the wright family. i can't imagine as a father and as a son what they're going through at this moment. i think the reality is we're talking about human beings, and the human element that's involved here can't be ignored. we can't train that waway, so te
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conversation really should shift to when are we going to stop utilizing law enforcement officers trained, armed government officers, to respond to incidents that they don't need to be part of. so i don't know officer potter. i don't know her skills as a trainer or as an officer, but i can say that in general across the country, having armed officers respond to traffic events is clearly incon grew end. >> right. because this was over -- john, this was over an expired tag. >> elie, the video that we've now all seen, which i don't want to play because it's troubling, where you see officer potter saying taser, taser, taser, which you can read she thought she was using a taser there and after she did shoot him saying, oh, my god, i shot him, being surprised she shot him with a gun, how will that play in a
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trial? >> i think that's going to be tricky for prosecutors. to start with, i think that's what's prevented prosecutors from bringing a more serious charge. i think she will argue at the trial that that shows she's acting accidentally. however, as hans said, it's hard to understand how that happened. you don't just get handed a taser. you have to go through a train progress says. there are various designs in place to differentiate. you carry the taser on your weak leg, your weak hip, a jd you carry the gun on your strong, dominant side. how you draw across your body and don't realize the different as a layperson for me, i don't understand. >> this was supposed to change after oscar grant was killed by those transit officers in back in 2009. has enough changed in training? i'm not that familiar with the guns or tasers.
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i haven't actually held either of them. you have. >> mm-hmm. >> so should they look different? should you not be able to fire them, trigger them the same way? should more change come? >> i think that's a great question, and elie is right. there's a lot that goes into tasers to try to prevent these human errors. they're a different weight, different color, different draw so you have to pull them away. so much of this is designed to prevent tragic deaths like oscar grant by b.a.r.t. years ago and the way wright was. the conscious response is a traumatic response from officers who are under an extreme amount of stress and pressure. there's 18,000 police departments around the country. not one of them trains the same exact way or has the same exact operations or procedures. so we don't know the answer to how brooklyn center does this,
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but, by and large, yes, there's efforts every day to help police officers move away interest this. but as i said before, it may be time do what berkeley is doing, which is eliminating them from activities they don't need to be part of in the first place. >> elie, i want to talk about the derek chauvin trial, in this case, the medical examiners and what they believe the cause of death was and the view of the people on the stand, which was diametrically opposed. in some cases, different than even the video. i want to play you a portion where they talk about their testimony. watch. >> you haven't seen any data or test results that shows mr. floyd had an injury due to carbon monoxide.
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is that true? >> that's true, but -- >> i ask you whether or not it's true. >> it's true. >> he asked whether it was carbon monoxide that killed george floyd, not the knee on the neck. elie, what do we need to know about expert testimony and what came into play here? >> i want you to understand this. there is nothing special about expert witnesses legally speak. when the judge instructs the jury next week, he'll tell them, you're not to give any more credibility to expert witnesses than any other witness. that was so crucial. dr. fowler got on the stand in direct testimony, offers up this carbon monoxide theory. i was thinking and i'm sure the jury was thinking, okay, that's interesting, but what is he basing that on. then the prosecutor got up and dismantled that. do you have any data for this, science for that. the answer is no. the jury can then think, i don't believe this.
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jurors are allowed to use their everyday regular common sense, and if it doesn't make sense to them and they think it was derek chauvin's knee that caused george floyd's death and not the exhaust fumes, they can ignore that. >> this is about administered medical aid and at what point it should happen. let's listen. >> do you feel mr. floyd should have been given immediate emergency attention to try to reverse the cardiac arrest? >> as a physician, i would agree. >> are you critical of the fact that he wasn't given immediate emergency care when he went into cardiac arrest? >> as a physician, i would agree. >> is it not the case that officers are trained to administer that? in fact, we heard that in the prosecution's case from the emt a week ago in minneapolis, that
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they're trained this way. >> well, what i'm hearing is as a physician i agree. and so i want to sark y, as a hn being, i agree. there with many people on the ground who could have said, you're kill dhg man, get your knee off his neck, he's dying, roll him over. yes, officers are trained on administering emergency aid and they know how lethal it can be for people who are placed there for too long. yes, i appreciate the testimony that medical opinion says this should have happened, but i don't think you need police training or a medical opinion to see that what you are doing on top of a man when he's lifeless requires you to act, to protect him, and to save his life. >> elie honig, this may be the last chance the defense has a chance to call derek chauvin to the stand today. what are the chances we'll see him testify in his own defense? >> very, very low, john. i know on tv there are moments
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when the defendant takes the stand. it's so risky to do that. i guess the argument for would be if chauvin and the defense are in a bad spot and they're going to throw a hail mary and hope to appeal to one sympathetic juror. on the other hand, if he takes the stand, he's going to get cross-examined and he's going to have to own every second of that 9:29, and the use of force could come out. that could be really, really damaging. >> elie honig, hans menos, thanks for being with us. just moments ago, defense secretary anthony blinken arrived in afghanistan as the president announced he's pulling all u.s. troops out of that country. we're going to speak to the national security adviser next. ♪ ♪
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will withdraw all troops after nearly two decades. joining me now national security adviser jake sullivan. thank you so much for being with us. the secretary of state arriving in kabul less than 24 hours after the united states said they will be leaving afghanistan in full, no military presence there. what message does that send to the afghan people? >> well, what secretary blinken will communicate directly to the afghan people is what president biden said yesterday, which is we are ending our military engagement in afghanistan, but we're not ending our diplomatic and humanitarian support for the afghan people. we will continue to fund the afghan national security forces. we've trained and equip third degree 00,000 of them so they're able to defend their country and take responsibility for protecting their people. that's the message that secretary blinken will communicate along with thanking or troops for their bravery and
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sacrifice. >> we will not end our diplomatic efforts, but isn't it true they have not improved with the taliban announcing they will not take part in negotiations with istanbul next week? >> it's necessary to produce diplomacy is the logic that has kept us there for 20 years, and the president judged that american forces should not be bargaining chips in a negotiation between warring parties in another country. he believes that the diplomacy should be carried out on a distinct track even as we end the war. we're continue to support efforts facilitated by the united nations. it will not be straightforward. it will not be easy. they've been in contact not just for 20 years but before that is correct but we will stand behind efforts to bring a stable political settlement to that country. >> so the cia director william burns says one of the concerns is that if u.s. presence goes
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away in afghanistan, it could create a situation where terrorists could get a toehold yesterday and he testified saying when it comes time for the u.s. military to withdraw t government's ability to collect and act on facts will diminish. that's simply a fact says william burns. is there any reason not to believe that's simply a fact? >> there's the fact that things will change if there aren't coalition forces there, but we believe our posture in the region will be at a level where we can maintain our threat against -- >> change or diminish? >> we will not have the same level of daily intelligence, but at a strategic level, in terms of being able to know whether or not al kai the da or isis is developing an external plotting capability, which they do not currently possess. we have degraded al qaeda to
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that point. we have taken out their leader, to a strategic effect whether they're gaining that, we'll have months of warning as our intelligence community has told us, and we will have the assets and capabilities to deal with that threat as it arises. >> you don't dispute that the cia director says the capabilities will diminish. change is one thing. diminish is another. you agree they will diminish. >> what i'm saying is our ability to protect the american homeland will not diminish. our ability to collect intelligence on a day-to-day basis against the comings and goings of actors in afghanistan will diminish. that's a big difference. from our perspective, we can set up the kind of scenario in which we can protect this country wow remaining at war in afghanistan for a third decade. >> i don't want people to think this is a simple equation by any stretch of the imagine neigh. we all know. we've been here for the past two
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decade as what has happened there and hasn't happened in afghanistan. we know there are no easy choices here. what happens? i assume you have no reason to expect the taliban will all of a sudden change their views on the role of women in society. what happens if they start to encroach on the gains made by women over the last two decades there? what will the united states do? >> first, as president biden said yesterday, we intend to support afghan women and girls through humanitarian and economic assistance, and we intend to send a clear message to the taliban that if they do not want to be a pariah state cut off from the world, denounced by the international community, isolated, then they will not roll back the progress and gains made over the last 20 years. but the united states is not going to remain on the ground with american forces at war for a third decade to stop the unfolding of political events inside afghanistan.
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>> so this is a big week in terms of diplomacy, in terms of the united states' role. you're right in the middle of it all. the u.s. announcing a new series of sanctions against russia for the giant attack, the solar winds hack, for bounties for the taliban to go after u.s. troops there, for attacking the u.s. election, for a range of things, financial sanctions. i suppose the question to you is when past sanctions haven't changed russian behavior, why will these change russian behavior? >> first, what president biden is going to announce today, we believe, are proportion at measures to defend american interests in response to harmful russian actions including cyber intrusions and election interference. second, as he said to president putin earlier this week, his goal is to provide a critical and significant response but not escalate the situation. he believes the united states
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and russia can have a stable and predictable relationship, that there are areas where we can work together like arms control and the u.s. and russia should sit down together at a leaders level in a summit between president biden and pretty putin to discuss all of the issues facing our relationship, and we believe that altogether, both the actions we're taking today and that broader diplomacy, can produce a better set of outcomes for u.s./russia relations. >> the first official reaction we've seen comes from a russian official at the united nations. he said if the united states continues to promote its baseless accusations, it will deprive the world of the opportunity of great world confrontation instead of solving acute problems, shrug emoji. do you view that as a threat? >> i'm not familiar with the shrug emoji, so i would have to
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parse the tweet. look, i think diplomats will say a lot of different things. there can be tit for tat in terms of words. the key issue here is what do the two leaders intend, and president biden and president putin had a phone call in which they were direct with one another, they understood one another. president biden made no bones about the fact we will be taking actions this week, but he also indicated that he wants to get to that stability in this relationship, and he believes that if president putin is prepared to do that as well, we can find a course ahead that does not lead to a cycle of confrontation. >> president putin is putting troops on the ukrainian border. there are some 75,000 troops there right now. president zelensky of ukraine pleaded with our reporter matthew chance for the united states to help. he wants the united states to push ukraine and nato right now. what happens if that becomes more of a hot order? what happens if the troops cross the border and invade?
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>> first, president biden spoke with president zelensky and he pledged america's unwavering support for sovereignty and territorial integrity. secondly, he said we would be prepared to continue to provide defensive support to the u ukraine, and third, he indicated to president putin in the call if russia does take steps, the united states will work with its allies to impose significant costs. we're very concerned about the russian military buildup on the border of ukraine. we've seen what's happened there before. we're consulting closely not just with our allies in europe but directly with ukrainians to ensure we stand behind them as they defend their own country. >> it's early in the administration, but we are looking at these actions in afghanistan. we're hearing you talk about russia with these sanctions. what does this tell us about a possible biden dock trine in tes of foreign polpolicy?
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>> reporter: what president biden wants to do is put america in strength not just in competition with russia and china but with significant threats that impact america's life, pandemic, terrorism, cyber attacks. to do that, we need to invest at home to build up a strong foundation. we need strong, capable, powerful allies. we need to be writing the international rules of the road, not letting autocrats do it, and above all, we need to stop the forever war in afghanistan. like the president said yesterday, 20 years on after we have achieved what we went in for so we can focus on the next 20 years, not the last 20 years. >> you mentioned the phone call president biden had with president putin. before president biden called the russian leader a killer, i'm curious if that came up in a conversation they had whierngsd invite a conversation, a summit,
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with someone you think is a killer? >> reporter: first at the height of the cold war when we had thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at one another, when ronald reagan was denouncing them as the evil empire, we had summits. we have summits with each other even in the most difficult and testy of times. president biden does not believe we're at that level with the russians, but he does believe that this relationship is in a very difficult place where we face the risk of a downward spiral if these two leaders do not get together in a clear-eyed and credible way and talk through the dinfferences in our relationship. it's not going to mean we see eye to eye on everything or that president biden won't stand up and defend the u.s. force pli, but it means he will do his part to project stability in this relationship. >> jake sullivan, national
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security adviser. thank you for coming on "new day." we look forward to speaking to you again. >> thank you. daunte wright is the latest black man killed during an encounter with police. we're going to speak to the merry of eric garner about the shared grief of so many families across the country. did you know you can go to to customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas or abdominal discomfort? taking align can help. align contains a quality probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24/7.
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breaking news, they just charged the policewoman -- >> yay. >> -- with second-degree manslaughter. we continue to fight. we continue to fight. we continue to fight. >> well, that was the moment on stage as attorney ben crump told the crowd that the officer who shot daunte wright and killed him in minnesota, officer potter, would be charged in his death with second-degree manslaughter. he made that announcement while speak with mothers who had lost their sons to violence.
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with me now is gwen carr who you just saw on that stage there. her son eric garner died after police officers arrested him for selling loose cigarettes in 2014. i should note, gwen, your son was the father of six children. i'm glad you're with us this morning. >> that's correct. it still seems like yesterday. >> yeah. i can't imagine, but i am a mother, so i just want to begin on a mother's grief as you watch another mother, katy wright, sobbing, grieving the loss of her 20-year-old. what are your thought this morning? >> i'm just feeling so much -- i'm grieving with her because i know what she's feeling. i know what a dark place she's in at this very moment not knowing what to do or what
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happened. it seems like a dream. i wish i could wrap my arms around her because at this moment there is no comfort. there is no explanation. you can't even make sense of a situation like this. >> when you get back to what p precipitated the deaths of young black men. for eric garner who was selling loose cigarettes, daunte wright, expired tags, i could go on and on and on. my question for you this morning, gwen, has anything meaningfully, from a mother's perspective changed with policing in america? >> well, this is why we as
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mothers are going out as activists because we have to get change. we can't just sit down and cry about it. we have do it or else they're going to sweep it under the rug. no one else is going to do it. i said about my son's murder, i'm not going to take this lying down. i have gotten several laws changed since my son's death. we know it's a slow process, but it's a process that's going forward, and it's not only about getting laws passed. the laws have to be enforced. so we look for the higher-ups to make sure that these laws are enforced. >> no. your work has been extraordinary, banning choke holds, et cetera. you have been in front since your son's death on this. i think back to eric, your son,
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11 times saying, i can't breathe, i can't breathe, 11 times, and i think fast forward to george floyd on the streets of minneapolis, my hometown, saying, i can't breathe, and crying out for his mother in his final moments. >> yes. >> you know, the white house is standing down on their policing commission that they promised. they say it's up to congress to make change. do you have confidence in congress in this moment to make that meaningful change? >> well, they need to look at the situation. it should be like, hey, yeah, we have to make change. they see what's going on in the black and brown communities. they see that they're murdering us at an enormous rate, and there's nothing really being done about it, no accountability. nothing is changing fast enough. so this is why we've got to keep out there. we can't do it by ourselves. we need congress. we need the people.
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we need everyone to push together to get these laws changed because a man who's just driving with an expired license in a pandemic, there's so many people out there with an expired license, and why would you pick on this young man? it doesn't breed death just because he has an expired license. he should not have even been stopped. >> i've said this before on this program. i've been pulled over for expired tags, and the outcome was completely different. i want to ask you about something that is pretty extraordinary, and that is, gwen, that your relative -- one of your nephews is actually lieutenant nazario, who we now know how he was treated by the police there and pulled over. >> that was so horrific. >> can i ask what -- >> that was horrific what they did. >> your family knew about this before a lot of the world saw the video and now the world knows about it.
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can i ask you what you thought when you saw all of this? >> when i first saw it, i didn't even know that it was caron. i thought -- my niece sent the video to me, but i thought, you know, people are always sending me videos of these horrible things happening to kids, i can't even look at the videos anymore, so that's what i thought it was because she didn't get the phone call through to me. and then when i found out that it was him and she said, gwen, why didn't you say on tv that's your nephew, i said, my nephew who? she said caron. my heart just dropped when i actually found out that it was ca caron, someone who i knew from a baby, a kid. him and my grandson used to sleep over each other's house all the time. it was just so, so heart-wrenching, i can't tell you. then when i seen them pepper spray him, someone in full gear
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-- they should get a pass on that. he's in full gear, not doing anything. just because his license plate wasn't on the back. and we had seen caron in february because he was at his uncle's funeral. we all took pictures together. and he said -- the kid was too terrorized to say something. the police terrorized him. that just should not be. i mean they fired the cop, but that's not enough. that's just not enough. he thought he was -- he said, i thought i was going to lose my life like my cousin -- my uncle. >> yeah. like your son. and, in fact, he did have that license taped right on the back rear window after all. >> yes, he did. yes, yes. >> gwen carr -- >> yes. >> -- i can't know your pain. but as a mother -- i know it's been years since eric died, and i'm so sorry, and i'm so
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grateful you're here this morning. thank you. >> yes. i stand for all mothers. >> you do. >> because we have to stop this. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> of course. well, president biden announcing an end to the war in afghanistan in the coming months. how do you do this safely, though, while protecting especially women there and maintaining security in the region? we'll ask congressman chris coons, who's next. ♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa cal: our confident forever plan is possible
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you've achieved, what you're doing, and i know this is a moment for many of mixed
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emotions. these are hard choices, hard decisions. >> secretary of state antony blinken speaking to troops in afghanistan moments ago after president biden announced he will remove all u.s. forces from that country by september 11th. joining us now is democratic congr congressman. thank you for being with us. i want to ask you as a veteran of the conflict in afghanistan, we heard the secretary of state say it's with mixed emotions that we make this announcement. as a veteran, what are your feelings about this this morning? >> yeah. good morning, john. you know, i'm still processing the emotions of that. everybody who served overseas, who served in afghanistan, we spent a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. many of us lost friends during that war. so i think there's a lot of people thinking about and processing what exactly that means, you know, and how to dee
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dee -- define that meeting. we have to focus on the fact that these men and women, these millions of men and women who have served in afghanistan over the 20 years on global war and terror, that individual service, that individual sacrifice, deserves to be applauded and appreciated. >> that's why i'm asking that first. we'll get to the tough questions in a second. urn fortunately we know of people who have died there or people whose lives have forever changed. think anyone who has served in afghanistan, their lives have forever changed by their service there. your questions are fundamental. you face the questions, was it worth it. there are days and moments when that question is more acute than ever. how do you process that? >> you know, a lot of people try to find questions or answer
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questions that are sometimes unanswerable. we went there after 9/11 because we were attacked. the homeland was attacked. thousands of people died. you know, in that time, there hasn't been a similar attack on the homeland in that 20 years. you know, whether or not we're ultimately more safe because of that, i think that's a question that pun dilts and experts are going to be analyzing for years, but look at where we are right now when you look at the decision by president biden. a lot of people like to say, well, there's risks to doing this, to pulling out, but there's risks to staying. there's risks everywhere in the world. there's risks in europe as russia amasses tens of thousands of troops, there's risks in asia, south america, north ame america, africa. we have to look at the analysis we're going through right now. >> i want to make one thing clear. i'm sure you feel this way and my friends who served all feel
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this way. they always say their service is worth it. they never question whether it was worth it to serve and sacrifice the way they have, and we thank you for your decision and choice to do so. now as a congressman, as a member of the house armed services committee, you get a chance to press the administration for answers to questions. while you're supportive of this move, i do want to know what questions specifically you do have about this decision? >> well, last year, john, i led an amendment and passed an amendment to the defense authorization act, the defense budget, to actually force the trump administration to engage with congress on this issue because they weren't engaging with us, they weren't briefing with us, they weren't counseling congress. the reason it's important is this is america's war. this isn't any one administration's war or the president's war. it's the people of america who have paid for and done the fighting and the bleeding and the dying in this war, and they deserve to understand what's happening and why it's happening, so i hope that the biden administration engages
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with us in compliance of that defense provision of the budget. but we have to make sure we're doing this the right way. you know, my main obligation is to protect the force, make sure we're protecting the men and women in the military. my military career started at a private. i think of myself as private crow. as we draw down and leave fewer and fewer forces there, the forces that are left behind are a lot more vulnerable. you think about these forward operating base as they go from 300 forces to 100 forces to 20 forces. those folks left behind, nobody wants to be the last person out because that's a very dangerous place to be. we have to make sure we're doing right by them. >> you've been in a downward trend from private to officer to congressman. you talk about the troops that will be there or left there over the coming months as the
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withdrawal happens. again, specifically what is the right way to do that then in your mind. >> we have to make sure we're listening to military commanders because we know how to do this actually. we've dub this for decades. there's actually an operational process of actually doing these drawdowns, making sure we're doing it in the right way and not making sure that we're sticking to aroundtrary deadlines. i haven't had those discussions yet because the announcement has just been made. i'm certainly going to ask. i'm not going to asupe miechl job is not to assume here. it's to ask those tough questions. number two, is our nato allies. our nato allies went to wore with us. the only time in the history of the nato alliance, article 5, which is the neutral defense operation, was invoked after 9/11. that was the only time. they came and fought alongside us, died alongside us. we can't say, hey, thanks for coming to help us out, we're out, we'll see you later with it
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vaccine doses each day, a big number, this as the panel of cdc advisers held off on making a decision whether to research johnson & johnson covid vaccinations. they say they need more information at this point about the potential riffing of blood clots. let's go to our cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. any indication of when they're going to restart the j&j vaccine. >> well, poppy, this advisory committee to the cdc that everyone turns to and listens to, they said they will be getting back and making a decision or taking some kind of vote between now and may 5th. so that's what everyone is watching for. and in the meantime the pause stays on. let's take a look at numbers that caused this pause. so we're looking at cases of these very unusual brain blood clots accompanied by low platelet levels, which is also unusual. that happened to one man during the clinical trial, to six women during the actual vaccine rollout. they were all ages 18 to 48.
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they were all hospitalized and one died. this is very serious stuff, poppy. the hospitalizations, we know that all of them were in the icu, all of the women. the man we don't know because the food & drug administration has declined to tell us, but you're talking about a lot of people ending up this that -- the people in that group are ending up in the intensive care unit. one has died. this is going to be a big decision that needs to be made because this has been kind of a vaccine favorite for many people. it's one and done. you don't have to freeze it. it really is much easier. so if you've gotten the johnson & johnson vaccine in the past three weeks, what you should know is if you develop symptoms such as serious headaches, you should talk to your doctor, but, again, these are very, very rare events. poppy? >> i'll take it's elizabeth cohen. thank you very much for that report. the killing of daunte wright has gotten congress to look at the calls.
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john avlon with the reality. >> there's majority support for significant police reform, but will there are striving slogans from politicians that don't help at all like congresswoman rashida tlaib's calling for no more policing. let's be clear. this is a terrible idea as a matter of politics and practicality. it's an extension of attempting to defund police. many defenders essentially say defunding the police should be taken seriously but not lit lite literally. after the trump administration i thought words matter. it doesn't represent the community it seeks to serve. a gallup poll found they want to increase policing in their neighborhoods. the real issue is what kind of policing they're receiving. considering the offenses that
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led to killings, daunte wright pulled over for skbierd plates, george floyd for a kuner to fit $20 bill, walter scott pulled over for a broken taillight. eric garner for selling illegal cigarettes. al on the sterling for celling cds, these are a few examples. 29% were arrested for gambling arrests. local studies show they're far more likely to be arrested for jaywalking. so much for bill barr's insistence there isn't systemic race issues this. is not going to achieve some utopia. it will do the opposite. instead there needs to be significant retraining and reform. cops need to focus on de-escalating and decriminalizing. it helps that some 27 states have decriminalizing or even legalized marijuana considering black americans are arrested
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three times more than whites due to pe session despite usage rates. in 2020 republican senator tim scott introduced a bill to announce no-knock warrants. democrats say it didn't go far enough. and also limiting qualified immunity which protects officers. good people can disagree on the details but we need to agree on the fact like the fact that 991 people have been shot and killed by police over the past year according to the "washington post." weal need to recognize that despite some fear-fueled appeals, violent crime and property crime have plummeted since the 1990s. finally, we should not fall into the trap of demonizing all police officers who do a necessary, difficult, davis, and often thankless job. we can support the vast majority of good cops while insisting on holding bad cops more accountable and invest in changing the culture that has
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led us to this crisis of confidence and basic promise of equal justice under law. and that's your reality check. >> john, thank you very much for that. "new day" continues right now. former police officer kim potter has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. >> the family of daunte wright will get to have their day in court. >> an arrest is just step one, but we have to get a conviction, and you can't give up on that. >> it's time to end america's longest war. it's time for american troops to come home. >> president biden announcing that he'll withdraw all u.s. forces from afghanistan by september 11th. >> the threat is degraded. >> withdrawing from afghanistan is a grave mistake. >> announcer: this is "new day." >> welcome in, united states and


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