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good morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is a special edition of "new day." i'm john berman alongside brianna keilar. the jury found derek chauvin guilty on all three counts. chauvin is in a prison cell this morning and he may remain there for decades after his sentence is handed down in two months. overnight at the intersection where george floyd drew his final breath, celebrations and a sense of overwhelming relief. >> say his name. >> george floyd. >> say his name. >> george floyd. >> say his name. >> george floyd. >> say his name. >> george floyd. >> george floyd's family. his brother says he can now sleep for the first time in a year. president biden and vice
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president harris called the floyd family soon after the verdict was announced, the president urging people to confront police brutality and systemic racism. >> i can't breathe. those are george floyd's last words. we can't let those words die with him. we have to keep hearing those words. we must not turn away. we can't turn away. >> once the verdict was read, americans took to the streets in city after city to celebrate the decision. we begin now with adrienne broaddus who's now live in minneapolis. adrienne, what's happening there? >> reporter: it's claalm. we just heard a rattle behind us, but that was a member of the national guard adjusting one of the fences behind us. the barricades and fencing is still in place, but take a look at this. the headline in the "star tribune" this morning sums it
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all up. it says, "convicted." this is the headline that minnesotans and others beyond minnesota would hope but feared they would not see this headline. if you ask them why, they would say based on the past history. some cite castillo who was shot and killed. the aftermath was caught on video. they thought the video would have been enough in that case, but it wasn't. you can imagine when the verdict was read yesterday, there was a symphony of celebration. we heard cars honking their horns, we heard people cheering, and we also saw people crying openly in the middle of the street. the tears were tears of joy, not happy because of what happened to floyd, but thankful and grateful they were finally seen. listen in to what floyd's
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brother had to say. >> being able to know that it's justice for african-american people, just people of color, period, in this world, this is monumental, this is historic, this is a pivotal moment in his history. >> reporter: a lot of people were asking yesterday how was the floyd family able to be so calm amid all of the chaos, and the family leans heavily on their faith. i spoke with george floyd's aunt earlier this morning. i also talked to his cousin. i said how will you be able to forgive derek chauvin. they said that's what their faith teaches them do. they said forgiving isn't always easy. they said they will forgive chauvin but not forget. i'll never forget the
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conversation i had with 9-year-old judea reynolds about a month after the killing of george floyd. she told us she begged her cousin darnella frazer to take her to the store. she wanted to purchase snacks, specifically starbursts. finally toward the end of the day, darnella said, okay, let's go. she said if we didn't walk to the store at that time, they would still kill us. i said who is "they?" and she said police. the 9-year-old has the foresight to see the power of the video. and we've seen that video over the last three weeks. >> perhaps the most important witness in this case that has ended in this guilty verdict. adrienne, thank you so much, live for us in minneapolis. the sentencing for derek chauvin is scheduled for june. so what factors are going to go into the judge's decision here and long can he stay in prison?
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let's check in with laura jarrett, anchor of cnn's "early start." what sort of snechentence is he facing? >> he's facing significant time but maybe not enough. he's facing charges. the maximum ranges anywhere from 10 to 40 years, but chauvin is not going to serve anywhere near close to that and here's why. the judge has to follow the sentencing guidelines and take into account a person's prior history. chauvin doesn't have any, so that puts him in the lower sentencing range on each of these three charges, more in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 years. also important to note, even though he was convicted of three different crimes, in minnesota,
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sentences generally run concurrently. what does that mean? he's going to do all three all at once rather than serving them back to back one on top of the other. >> on top of that, the prosecution has said they're going to ask the judge to go higher than that recommendation. explain that to us. >> right. so given the disturbing facts of the case, the prosecutors are going to charge certain aggravating circumstances call for more time in prison, and they've pointed out to five different things here. they're going to argue floyd was particularly vulnerable because he was handcuffed and unconscious and the crime was cruel. we heard the bystanders begging for his life. three others have to do more with the situation as opposed to floyd. one, show vines abuse of his authority as a police officer, the fact that it happened as part of a group of people, the other officers involved.
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also children were present. you remember the testimony of the 9-year-old girl adrienne mentioned in her piece. >> thank you so much. i want to bring in the founder and president of the witness, a black christian collective. jamar, i've been looking forward to speaking with you. you say your emotions run the gamut from relief to cautious optimism to gratitude. why? why that range? >> well, you can hear from the reactions of other people who heard the verdict in this trial. it's as if we won one small battle in a very long war, so there is the immediate sense of joy and of exhilaration and exhaling from all of this tension we've been holding in. and at the same time, there's the reality it's just one
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decision, one small verdict, a very important verdict, but in a much broader scope of issues regarding policing and the criminal justice system and the way black people are treated in america. so we have to feel all of these emotions at once and make space for all of them because honestly there's no right emotion in an instance like this. >> do you see it as one data point, or do you see this as a verdict that opens up the possibility of other juries, of americans as they did in this case, seeing very much the humanity of george floyd? do you think this changes the range of possibility for outcomes in other cases? >> i do hope this verdict helps to set a precedent that even people who have a badge can be guilty of murder. it's more than just poor judgment. it's taking someone's life unlawfully, and they will be
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held accountable, but realistically, look what it took to secure a conviction in this case. we had incontrovertible video evidence from multiple angles, we had eyewitness testimony from multiple people including children, we had historic uprisings in 2020 all to put eyes on this case, and in many, many, many, many more cases, we don't have all of that. the justice of the situation is still clear, but look at all that it took just to convince people that this was murder. and so in that sense, i'm not sure that this particular case is going to completely change the way that we look at convicting police officers who are guilty of milt. >> jemar, i want your take on the significance of george floyd as a person going forward, and i want to play what speaker nancy pelosi said about this.
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i'm not doing this to troll nancy pelosi, but i think it's important to frame how we think about things, again, looking forward. so listen to this. >> thank you, george floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice, for being there to call out to your mom. how heartbreaking was that, calling out for your mom, "i can't breathe," but because of you and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with justice. >> thank you, george floyd, for your sacrifice. why don't you think that's the right way to think about this. >> i think people who say that george floyd's life was a sacrifice for justice are well meaning but misguided, and honestly in 2021 after all we've seen, we have to do better.
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george floyd did not ask to be a sacrifice. he should be alive today. moreover, it shouldn't take the death of black people, people of color, or anyone to show what justice looks like or to call this nation to its higher ideals. that should just be the case regardless, and it shouldn't take the murder of yet another person in order for us to see what justice looks like. and this is another instance of what it looks like to value black life. we shouldn't treat black life and discard it in the sense that it takes someone being killed in order for us to understand justice. >> yeah. it was an important outcome, but certainly it was a bittersweet one, and we heard that from so many people. jem jemar tisby, thank you so much.
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george floyd's family getting a personal call. the message to america about the need to rebuild the relationship between the police and the people they serve. we're also following a story overnight, a deadly police shooting involving a 16-year-old girl. the disturbing body camera video of what happened. what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change. hi sabrina! >>hi jen! so this aveeno® moisturizer goes beyond just soothing sensitive skin? exactly jen! calm + restore oat gel is formulated with prebiotic oat.
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president biden called the death of george floyd a giant step in the justice toward america, but so much more needs to be done. >> most men and women who wear the badge serve their communities honorably, but those few who fail to meet that standard must be held accountable, and they were today. one was. no one should be above the law, and today's verdict sends that
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message. >> let's bring in a former police officer and also the author of "police brutality matters." joe, i know you were surprised by the verdict. tell us what message this sends to law enforcement. >> well, thank you for having me. it sends a strong message that you have to follow policy procedures in your training. for years, law enforcement has been given a pass. disregarding policy and procedures was okay. it's a new day, and i'm glad to see the verdict that we have. >> it was remarkable to watch the video from the courtroom yesterday after the verdict came in, guilty on all three counts. and then after the judge revoked bail -- we just played it -- derek chauvin stood up and put his hand behind his back right away. it was as if to say, i knew this was coming. it's also a vivid image for
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society to see, but what do police say when they see it? i've been communicating with one of my dear friends who's a police officer overnight, and he thinks this is a good message for officers to see. >> it's definitely a good message for officers who follow policy and procedure. as the president said, we do have bad apples. for a long time, the culture of policing has been protecting the bad apples. if you're a good cop, you want accountability. there's nothing like a bad cop when it comes to good policing. good cops hate bad officers. and we have more good officers than bad. this sends a strong message we no longer are going to tolerate bad officers, and i appreciate the prosecution doing an excellent job. as prosecutors, we -- especially me, i've never seen a prosecution team go so hard at a police officer. normally police officers get the benefit of the doubt with the community as well as in the
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courtroom, so i'm extremely grateful. and now that we have police reform that was passed in the house, now we're waiting for the senate. this sends a message to every taxpayers, over a billion dollars in bad police payouts will soon be coming to an end. >> what do you want to see in those efforts? those efforts for justice reform and policing reform? what is essential to moving the needle further? >> i would like to see real police legislation. for one, a special prosecutor team, prosecutors who specialize in prosecuting police. we've seen officers get prosecuted in court. it still seems like they get the been fit of the doubt. these guys did an excellent job of coming down and putting police management on the stand, training, policy procedures.
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if you notice these cases, they're habitual in policies and training. i'm so glad to see the prosecution team coming out and doing an amazing job. i would definitely like to see a prosecuting team and the removal of qualified immunity because taxpayers are paying out over a billion dollars. it makes no sense. you're paying out tacks for bad policing, and that needs to stop. >> i didn't mean to interrupt, joe. you made a good point about the feeling of americans. it's the zeal that the prosecutors did their work and the police came forward almost in yeuna nimiety. we appreciate your insight. >> thanks for having me. another trial in george floyd's death is still on the horizon, this time for the three other officers who were part of the arrest. what chauvin's conviction could mean for them next.
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so overnight people gathering for a memorial for george floyd outside a market where he was murdered, now questions about what derek chauvin's guilty verdict means for the three other former minneapolis officers charged in the death of george floyd. shimon prokupecz live with more on that. this should be interesting to see especially after the one guilty verdict. >> reporter: it certainly will be, john. that trial will start to take place on august 23rd, and that's
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now going to shift the focus of the prosecutors in that case to put together as they continue to proceed in that case. we're going hear from many of the same witnesses, the same evidence, going to see all of that body camera, the body-worn camera replayed for a new jury. those three defendants, those three former officers, are going to be tried together. they would have been tried together with george floyd had it not been a pandemic. the only reason why the cases were separated was because of the restrictions related to the pandemic, so that's why they weren't all tried together. but certainly we're going to see a lot of the same witnesses, a lot of the same evidence, and a lot of the same circumstances are going to be presented to a new jury. of course, those officers are charged with aiding and abetting, manslaughter and murder. but interestingly, john, by then, by the time that trial gets started, derek chauvin should have been sentenced. so we're going to see how that's
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going to play into the trial, john. >> you would expect the lawyers for the three other officers to say, make derek chauvin was the bat guy. this is all his fault. we'll see what defense strategy they choose. developing this morning, a protest in columbus, ohio, the scene of another deadly police shooting. this happened minutes before the verdict was handed down in the derek chauvin trial, and the victim here is a 16-year-old girl. according to police, the officer fired after the teen tried to cut two other girls with a knife, but in the graphic body camera video of the incident, it shows a very chaotic scene, it's incredibly difficult to discern what is happening here, and there are still so many questions that need to be answered. cnn's ryan young is in columbus with the latest. ryan, what are you learn about this? it's difficult to understand what's happening in this video. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. and, look.
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protesters took to the street last night to say they were very upset about this. the fact that they released the video so quickly, you can understand what the city was trying to do, the position their officer was in. there was some sort of disturbance call. there was some sort of fight going on. when the officer arrives, they made a split-second decision. we're going to warn you the video is difficult to watch. it's disturbing. we're going to show it to you in realtime the first time through. take a watch. >> hey, what's going on? what's going on? what's going on? hey, hey, hey. get down. get down. get down. [ bleep ]]. >> reporter: so the young lady was 16 years old. the officer arrived and saw a knife and opened fire,
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unfortunately shooting that lady four times. she did die. we've also had the video slowed down, but this police department actually slowed this video down as they released the video. take a watch of this version of it as they show what their officer was dealing with. so i'm not sure you still see this video, but right now the officer approaches, there's a knife, there's some movement there, and he opens fire. of course, there are a lot of people upset with this decision, so a lot of questions will be going on. the officer is put on paid administrative leave. it normally happens after a shooting like this. on top of that, there's called in the community for more of an investigation, but listen to what the mayor had to sadyring this difficult situation. >> not just the mayor. i'm a father.
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the city of columbus lost a 15-year-old girl today. we know based on this foot age, this officer took action to protect others in the community, but a family's grieving tonight, and this young 15-year-old girl will never be coming home. >> reporter: you can understand all the emotions that are inv involved in this. brianna, look. there are so many questions attached to this. another police-involved shooting. of course, others will say the officer was protecting the other young ladies. it's reporting the young lady
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may have been calling police herself for help. so many emotions especially when it comes to police-involved shooting with black youth at this point. it's a very difficult day ahead for columbus. we'll see what happens as the day plays out. brianna? >> it is. we know you'll be digging into those questions for us. thank you. in justice across generations, george floyd's killing likened to a black person's killing years ago. and a tweet reads, "i can breathe," the team's white owner is defending it. scotts turf builder triple action kills weeds, prevents crab grass and feeds your lawn. all three,in just one bag. i like that. scotts turf builder triple action. it's lawn season. let's get to the yard.
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it's been a long journey, and it's been less than a year, and the person that comes to my mind is 1955, and to me he was the first george floyd. that was emmett till.
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>> wow. wow. >> i did -- i was on cnn with deborah watts, and she just brought him back to life. >> wow. >> people forgot about him. >> yeah. >> but he was the first george floyd. >> that is the brother of george floyd reacting to the derek chauvin murder, likening his brother's death to the lynching of emmett till 65 years ago. joining us now is the son of martin luther king jr. it was so interesting to hear philonise floyd talk about emmett till and it's remarkable how he's become close to the family of emmett till. i think it's crucial that we don't look at this verdict as an end in anything, but i'm wondering if you can place this in history for us as we think about emmett till and we think
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about george floyd. what's the historical significance of what we're seeing today? >> well, obviously the historical significance is the fact that there was a trial specifically and a conviction was received, the verdict of guilty on three counts. that, i don't believe happened with any other cases or if it did happen, it certainly was not a victory in this regard. so that's what sets a tone to some degree. plus, there's so many more people around the world who were able to see what happened to george floyd because of the pandemic. people were at home, so instantly everyone saw this very, very incident where the officer was judge, jury, and executioner. so for the jury to come down
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with a verdict of guilt, it comes down to like, okay, maybe there is some justice that can be received through the justice system. >> there's something overwhelming though. you saw philonise floyd. he got caught up thinking about the history, thinking about the fact that we're talking about multiple generations now where the struggle is still very real. >> there's no question about that, and my heart and our family's prayers continue to go out for the floyd family. you know, at the end of the day when you talk about justice, there was a verdict, but nothing can bring back their brother, and, you know, that is -- that is -- that's the challenge, and they'll have to live with that for a long time. the fact of the matter is, as you say, these incidents
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continue to happen. we've got a lot of work to do. maybe this is the beginning of the restoration of people beginning to have some degree of faith in the system because black people and many people have lost faith in the criminal justice system. >> yeah, look. it was amanda gorman who wrote overnight a victory would be george floyd being alive, but i also appreciate and welcome your saying this is also a moment of hope and a chance for us to look forward and hope for things to change. what specifically would you like to see happen now or next? i know there's the george floyd policing act that is being discussed in congress right now. i don't know that anything's going to happen with it. among other things, it would ban choke holds, overhaul no-knock policies. what do you want to see? >> that would be the next step. it's sad we're debating -- i mean it's good to debate, but it's sad that it's not looking as promising as it should.
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that should be a slam-dunk scenario. so that's one of the first things. i think the president has got to put his full weight behind the passing of that legislation, and hopefully somehow that will happen. i think also we've got to overall look at policing in general. we've got to do an overhaul of policing. when i say that, i mean the officers being hired, psychological evaluations, strict psychological evaluations, hiring officers from the community where they police so they have a stake in the community, stakeholders. i think that would be one of the things that would help. i think the constantly retraining over and over. why can't we apprehend suspects without killing them? we use dodd d do that in the ol.
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sometimes you can't apprehend them without shooting them, but we're training officers to shoot and kill. >> martin luther king iii, thank you for joining us. emotional reaction from the sports world to the derek chauvin guilty verdict next. you look at the past and how many people before had to die and had to not receive justice for this to happen today. renae is not an influencer. she's more of a groundbreaker. just look at the way she's reshaping, and reimagining, her 4 acre slice of heaven. it's not hard to tell she's the real deal. renae runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor, because out here, you can't fake a job well done. nothing runs like a deere.
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obviously the derek chauvin verdict is having a huge impact in the sports world where so many athletes really devoted themselves to the cause of racial justice in this country after the death of george floyd. andy scholes joins us now with the reaction. andy. >> reporter: john, over the past year, we've seen many athletes
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an sports leagues continue to use their voice in the fight against social justice. a number of players have taken part with activists. we saw many come out and voice their relief and many saying there's still plenty of work to be done. the guilty verdict in the derek chauvin trial rocking the sports world. >> i am was just saying to myself, i hope they do the right thing, because if they don't, they're going to tear this mother up because we're tired, we demanded justice, we got it. >> reporter: nba players who have been on the front lines of the social justice movement, lebron james summed up his feelings in one word, accountability. and another, justice. >> i was sitting in front of the
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tv watching the verdict come down, and my hands started sweating, my body started shivering, and my heart started pounding because i was nervous. i was nervous because i didn't believe, right? i was sitting in front of the tv and i didn't believe. even when the verdict came down and all the charges, you know, that we wanted was met, i still was staring at the tv listening to the judge because i was thinking there was an outcoming because we've never seen this. >> reporter: seahawks quarterback russell wilson simply tweeting, love wins. and another tweeting, it's just the beginning. in new york people gathered outsidede barclays center to voe their concerns. >> i was surprised to see people all over the world come together to take a stand for something. you know, that's huge.
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>> we just want to continue to galvanize each other and be there for one another as human beings and continue to support justice being served. >> reporter: in minnesota the timberwolves wrote, we're hopeful today's decision is a step forward, but it does not ease the physical and emotional pain that continues in an environment where systemic racism exists. the minnesota hockey team noting, there's much work to be done. tennis star osaka wore a face mask. >> we're sitting here on a sports show speaking about justice and speaking about things that are going on within our court system. it's not okay to just be a bystander of justice or our political system or democracy, and i think democracy we think
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of as a destination, and it's a continuous journey, and it has to be thought of that way. just because we're athletes, just because we're stay-at-home moms or businessmen or doctors or lawyers, whatever we are, like we have to actively participate in it because if we don't, we're not doing our job, and we're failing the generation that comes after us. and i just think, you look at the past and how many people before had to die and had to not receive justice for this to happen today. i just think we can't -- we can't hide behind badges, money, power, race, gender. we can't hide behind those things because that's not justice. we're lying to ourselves if we continue to think that. >> powerful words there from candace parker. timberwolves were on the road last night in sacramento. they played arguably their best game of the season, john, and they dedicated that win to george floyd's family, and they
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say they're going to deliver them the game ball. >> obviously such a big impact, i think, for so many people. andy scholes, thanks for that. the chauvin case sparking some sharp conversation on capitol hill. >> the american people -- can i have the floor, mr. jordan? did i strike a nerve? >> we will speak live with congresswoman val demings coming up. n tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brbrain performan. more brain performance? yes, please! neneuriva. think bigger. we started with computerers. we didn't stop at computers. we didn't stop at storage or cloud. we kept going. working with our customers to enable the kind of technology that can guide an astronaut back to safety. and help make a hospital come to you, instead of you going to it.
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a 2006 case coming to light similar to what happened to george floyd, but with a very different outcome. a black female officer was fired after trying to stop a white male officer from using a choke hold on a handcuffed black man who said he couldn't breathe. that man survived. after more than a decade of legal fighting, a judge recently ruled that the former officer was wrongly terminated for
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intervening. officer horn will now receive her full pension and backpay. she and her attorney are joining me now. congratulations to you. last we spoke, you were in the middle of this legal battle that has now vindicated you. take us back to that moment in 2006. i think it's very important for people to understand because of some of the parallels that we see with the george floyd case. when you decided to intervene and stop a fellow officer from choking a black man who was handcuffed. >> well, i answered an officer-in-trouble call. once i got there and went inside the house, he was being punched in the face but he was already handcuffed. i helped get him out of the house. and when we got him out of the house, greg turned around and started choking him. i said, greg, you're choking
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him. he didn't stop and so i grabbed his arm. today because of that he lives. >> you were ultimately disciplined and then you were fired. that's what happened a year shy of receiving your full pension, and that's where we were when we spoke last year shortly after george floyd's death. you were fighting for this vindication and you have just received it. i want to read something the judge said. judge ward said the city of buffalo has recognized the error and has acknowledge the need to undo an injustice from the past. the legal system at the very least can be the mechanism to help justice prevail even belatedly. what message does this send to other officers, do you think? >> well, the message that it sends is that the culture has changed, that the old way of doing things is no longer, so, you know, officers have a duty
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to intervene. and with cariol's law being passed in buffalo, they have to intervene. there's no way around it anymore. >> there was damage, cariol that cannot be undone. you missed out on years on the force doing the job you loved and you had to fight dearly in order to be vindicated and receive the benefits you had earned, by as you mentioned, the man who you intervened on behalf of lived. do you think that your pension would have been restore and your reputation revived if it were not for the floyd case? >> i think the floyd case brought new light to it because people were asking why don't the good cops stop the bad ones, and i am a perfect example of why. no one wants to lose their livelihood.
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>> the city of buffalo adopted cariol's law which says officers need to intervene like in the george floyd case and the one you intervened in it. how is it that something isn't adopted in a widespread manner? >> it definitely needs to be adopted nationwide. although we have it in the city of buffalo, there needs to be a national registry just like a sex offender registry. you need a registry where bad cops are on it so they can't go from a department like buffalo, new york, to california, and get a job. >> cariole horne, thanks so much, and as well to you, ron, for having success in court. thanks for being with us. and "new day" continues right now.
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all right. just about the top of the hour now. i'm john berman alongside brianna keilar. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is wednesday, april 21st. i want to show you the front page of the minnesota "star tribune." "convicted." the newspaper describing the guilty verdict in derek chauvin's murder trial as a moment of victory in a history of injustice. overnight, celebrations in some parts of the country nearly one year after the killing of george floyd. in george floyd square as it is now known in minneapolis, large crowds gathered with fists raised. you can see the impact of the moment particularly for george floyd's family. >> being able to know that it's justice for african-american people, just people of color, period, in this world, this is monumental. this is historic. this is a pivotal moment in
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history. >> derek chauvin is waking up in prison this morning, the judge revoking his bail immediately after the verdict, and sentencing will take place in about eight weeks. the other three officers at the scene with chauvin go on trial together in august. president biden says he believes the conviction, quote, can be a giant step forward in the fight against systemic racism, a.m. though, he insists it is not nearly enough. >> i can't breathe. those are george floyd's last words. we can't let those words die with him. we have to keep hearing those words. we must not turn away. we can't turn away. >> we're beginning now with adrienne broaddus who is live in minneapolis. adrienne. >> reporter: good morning, bri brianna. this is a copy of that


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