tv New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar CNN May 4, 2021 2:59am-4:00am PDT
well, let's get right into the news. nothing could be funnier than that. ♪ hello, i'm brianna keilar in washington alongside john berman in new york. on this new day, significant turn in the race to vaccinate a nation. what the data is set to approve that could change the game. plus, liz cheney declares war on her own party making she's going down for criticizing donald trump and the big lie, she's going down swinging. d.c. apparently bans dancing at weddings in covid restrictions. we'll speak with a bride to be who is holding out for a hero. and bill gates could lose half his wealth in his divorce
and still be rich enough to own, well, everything. we'll examine the billion dollar breakup. ♪ a very good morning to our viewers in the united states and around the world, it's tuesday, may 4th. and a potential game changer as america races to vaccinate and return to normal. cnn has learned the fda plans to authorize the pfizer vaccine for children and teenagers between the ages of 12 and 15 by next week. right now, pfizer and moderna are both testing their vaccines in children as young as 6 months. they expect to ask the fda for emergency use authorization covering infants and younger children later this year. >> this is a huge development for millions of american families, families like mine as they prepare for the upcoming
school year. i was driving with one of my sons when the news came out yesterday. his reaction was, awesome. it comes as the pace of vaccinations in the united states is slowing down, just over 2 million shots a day. cnn's elizabeth cohen joins us this morning. elizabeth, tell us everything. how safe do we know the pfizer vaccine is for kids? how effective? when might they get it in their arms? >> john, all i can really do is quote your son, awesome. this is indeed an awesome move, not just for those children. he's very eloquent, not just for those children and families. only my 14-year-old is unvaccinated. when the six of us go out we have to rethink how we do things. this is really a game changer. let's look at the data that is behind what is expected to be this authorization that's expected to happen soon. pfizer did a phase 3 trial, clinical trial, with more than 2,200 children ages 12 to 15 and
found it was 100% effective and well tolerated in other words there were no safety issues. pfizer is still testing in children ages 6 months to 11 years. now, when that comes, there's going to be -- that's a little bit -- that will take a little bit more work. with the older children, they didn't call in. the fda didn't call in their outside experts. they just are going to authorize it without going to those experts. for the younger children, they will call in that advisory committee to look at that data. john? >> elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. obviously this is something i care a ton about. i have two 14-year-olds at home, and it changes the way you think about things, right? if they're vaccinated along with my wife and me, it really does change things. >> it does. the guidance is if you're going to see your neighbors, see your family if you want to meet up and you're all vaccinated, i have little kids, so i'll be waiting a little while longer, but it really does make you worry as we have not worried
about kids for a while. so it's huge news. awesome, as your son said. >> awesome, eloquent, which he gets from his mother. seriously, look, we haven't been overly worried that they would get very sick because the numbers don't bear that out, but you are concern that i had could be vectors. you are concerned they could pass it on to other people. they've had to quarantine once because of soccer. hopefully that will never happen again. a big, big deal, couldn't be more excited. now to the growing civil war within the republican party. a gop source telling cnn that house minority leader kevin mccarthy is furious with congresswoman liz cheney, who by the way, is chair of the house conference. the number three republican in house leadership. on monday, cheney refused to back off from criticizing donald trump's election lies. she called it poison for the democratic system. joining us now is former republican congressman and presidential candidate joe walsh. joe, this is very interesting because liz cheney survived a
recent purge attempt. she might not survive another one. if she is out, does it weaken her or does it weaken the house gop? >> hey, brianna, great to be with you. and i haven't had the opportunity yet to congratulate you on your new gig here. look, before we get into the machinations of and what's going to happen to liz cheney, brianna, think about what we're talking about. liz cheney is going to lose her position in leadership. that's clear. it's a matter of days or week or two. she's going to be penalized for speaking the truth. i mean, think about that. think about where the republican party is. liz cheney is going to be penalized for speaking the truth. now, her problem, brianna, is every single one those cowards in that republican conference, they agree with liz cheney privately. they know the election wasn't
stolen. they don't believe donald trump's big lie. but their problem is liz cheney's problem. and it's what i hear everyday, all the republicans back home in their district, they believe the lie. that's what this is all about. >> so what you're saying, joe, basically the big lie is a necessary ticket for admission now into republican leadership. she's being penalized, as you say, merely for speaking the truth, saying the least controversial thing on earth, which is the election was not stolen? >> john, yeah. you're exactly right. think how surreal this is, right? to be viable in today's republican party, you have to lie. you have to commit to the big lie, the undemocratic lie that the 2020 election was stolen. john, here is the problem, it always comes down to republican voters. i hear from thousands of republican voters everyday, it
won't surprise you two, but they all believe the lie. that's what trump wanted. he got it. he got his lie. and this is what republican members are hearing everyday. i stand with liz cheney and i respect the hell out of her but there's no room in this republican party for her. it's sad. >> joe, where do people go then? where do politicians like a liz cheney or a mitt romney or candidates who do not believe in the big lie or tbl as i shorthand in my notes because i have to use it so often, where do voters who don't believe in this go if they agree with traditional, conservative ideology? they're not going to flock, you would think, to the democratic party. where do they go? >> well, brianna, that's the great question. and i wish not you two but i wish so many people in the media would stop talking about the
divided republican party. the split in the republican party. it's not divided. it pains me to say this, there's no split. it's trump's party. it's the big lie party. so, liz cheney, mitt romney, look, where do you go? they couldn't get elected to anything in this republican party. so they have to leave. they have to hang out as an independent, if they can for a while. maybe join the democratic party. maybe, brianna, there will be a movement to start a reasonable third party because the republican party is a shrinking party. most americans believe in the truth and know that the election wasn't stolen, but it's reality. it was a tough place for me to face a year ago. liz cheney's facing that same reality right now. >> and let's be clear, this isn't a conservative liberal thing. liz cheney is as conservative as they come.
her republican credentials on policy couldn't be more solid. but just to be clear, joe, you think she's gone. you think she's gone from leadership. you think she might be gone from her seat in wyoming. >> she's done. there's no way, john, she can hang on to her position in leadership. i've spoken to enough people privately to know that. and i know what these republicans are receiving every single day. i think liz cheney, john, knows that her position in leadership is gone, which is why i give her so much respect as brianna said at the top, dog gone it. she's going to go out swinging. if liz cheney is up next year against a credible primary opponent, john, in today's climate, there's no way she can win a primary. 90% of republican party voters are with trump and they believe the lie. >> one of the things i just find so absurd and disturbing about
what we see happening, especially in the house gop, joe, is that you know there are many republicans who do not believe the big lie, even though they propagate the big lie. so they're basing, you know, they're living a lie, politically speaking. and i just wonder how sustainable that really is because they don't actually believe it. >> brianna, they don't believe it. again, respectfully they're cowards. they know damn near every republican in the house knows that election wasn't stolen. but they cannot say that publicly. and liz cheney, they want to be rid of liz cheney because she's forcing them everyday, when she speaks the truth everyday, she forces these cowards, her fellow colleagues, to look in the mirror everyday and look at themselves. but, again, kevin mccarthy who i served with, he knows the drill,
he knows the deal. he wants to be speaker. and he knows where republican voters are at. it's absurd, but it's really tragic. >> joe walsh, thank you so much for joining us this morning. appreciate it. >> thanks, guys. so this is very much connected, tomorrow facebook will announce its decision on whether donald trump will remain suspended from the platform as he continues to push the big election lie. he did it just yesterday. joining me now cnn's senior media reporter oliver darcy. oliver, explain to me how facebook will make this decision, this board, and also, you know, are they going to consider just over the last 24 hours he has put out stuff that just blatantly false, the same type of stuff he did that got him suspended in the first place? >> yeah to be clear, john, facebook is not making this decision, right? before the pr person, the oversight board calls me i'll let you know that the oversight board, funded by facebook but they could say they're very
independent of facebook, they're reviewing facebook's decision and going to issue a decision as to whether facebook was right to remove trump from the platform. so, they're the ones that are coming out with this decision tomorrow morning. whether they're taking into consideration his most recent marks i'm not sure. they did announce yesterday that they were making this decision on wednesday or announcing decision. i'm assuming it's already been made at that point probably. he has made similar comments over the last few weeks, i'm sure they've probably looked into that as well. they've been doing a very thorough review of this case. and so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they take into account his recent comments. >> what got him suspended the insurrection, the statement he put out which basically said i love you to all the people saying that this election was stolen. we would never see anything like it. and yesterday he puts out a statement on parp, that basically said the exact same thing, that said this election was stolen. we have never seen anything like it. if that was their justification on january 7th, i don't know how
they let him back in. >> it shows the stax of this decision. if he's aloud on facebook, you can guaranteed he's going to make those statements on facebook. he's going to be posting those on facebook. i don't know how often he'll use the platform. i'm assuming he's going to be using it quite a bit. right now he's emailing statements to reporters and really relies on them getting his word out. but as you know, he always enjoyed the fact that he could just post directly and bypass that media filter. i'm sure he would love to do so especially right now given he has really no other platform. >> look, i'm not saying should or shouldn't. i'll see what facebook does there. justification before was one thing and the same thing still exists, you know, they're going to have to figure out highway they justify changing it. let's talk about paul ryan who did this interview at some retreat yesterday with liz cheney. on the one hand people are all like, oh look, former house speaker paul ryan, letting liz cheney speak her mind, giving liz cheney this platform to sort of old a mirror up to the
republican party. well, if paul ryan really wanted to effect change within the republican party or within the conservative movement, what avenue does he have at his disposal, oliver? >> sure. paul ryan sits on the board of fox corporation. as you know, fox has been really one of the main driving forces in pumping this poison, this poison of the big lie, of sanitizing what happened on january 6th. they've been responsible for pumping that poison into american politics. and paul ryan, paul ryan wears that fox jersey and he stood by silently as fox has done this. in the past, we've asked paul ryan about tucker carlson's anti-immigrant remarks. he stood by silent. i'm not sure he said anything at the gop retreat. make no mistake, paul ryan is collecting a paycheck from fox effectively profiting off this rhetoric that everyone assumes he detests. >> oliver darcy, thank you so much. appreciate it. we do have some breaking news, at least 23 people have been killed, dozens are hurt as an overpass carrying a subway
train collapses. we're going to take you live to the scene of this horrific tragedy. plus, cnn is live in india where the covid explosion is getting worse by the day. clarissa ward goes inside a hospital experiencing what they call the apocalypse. ♪ >> announcer: "new day" brought to you by -- cell phone repair. did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? just get a quote at libertymutual.com. really? i'll check that out. oh yeah. i think i might get a quote.
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around 10:30 p.m. last night local time here in mexico city and really came as a shock, obviously. i want to show you what the scene looks like now. it's hard to really tell, brianna, but that is the underside of a -- one of the cars of the train that fell to the ground after that overpass collapsed. initially, you know, hundreds of first responders came here to try and get to the people who were inside that train. ultimately 23 people so far have lost their lives. 65 people were transferred to the hospital. we're told no one is left trapped inside that debris there, so that is a good thing at this point. but of course the questions now will go to while the focus remains on the people as they recover, the people that have lost their lives, in the next days, weeks, brianna, the question will be how did this spectacular failure of infrastructure here actually happen? we can show you the cctv video
of this overpass collapsing. it is striking to see how quickly it just collapses to the ground. there are people here in mexico city are saying, how did this snap if it can happen here on this part of the subway line, why wouldn't it happen somewhere else in the city? this city relies heavily on the subway system. many of it having tracks like the ones behind me, using this overpass system, so there's some fear here in the city, brianna, about if this could happen here, could it happen somewhere else? >> the roads traveling underneath these overpasses and obviously this is just a devastating report out of mexico city, matt. thank you so much for bringing that to us. covid ripping through india at a desperate overwhelming pace. crowded hospitals overrun with patients struggling to breathe. we will take you there next. and a billionaire breakup. bill and melinda gates announcing their divorce after 27 years. so what happens to the $130 billion fortune?
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♪ the coronavirus crisis in india is getting worse by the day. hospitals struggling to cope with the surging number of patients with the country's most popular state home to more than 200 million people among the hardest hit. cnn's clarissa ward went inside an overwhelmed hospital where the scenes were just profoundly horrific. she joins us now with images that i know are difficult to see. clarissa, i can't imagine what you saw. >> reporter: that's right, john. i mean, this was really, you know, i've covered some terrible things, but this is right up there in terms of just absolutely harrowing scenes. this state that we went to, neighboring state, one of the hardest hit in the country. and i do want to warn our
viewers again as you already have that this is really tough to watch, but the families that we spoke to, they want the world to see their agony. >> reporter: a man wails in anguish. but no one is listening. his cry just one of many at this hospital. oh, my child, he says. oh my god, my baby. inside the entrance, his son is fighting for his life. gasping for air, his body convulsing. there are no doctors attending to him. the handful of medical staff working in this ward are stretched thin to breaking point. this hospital is completely overwhelmed. the doctors say that they have
about 55 beds. currently they're treating more than 100 patients. and you can see people are literally just lying on the floor, desperately hoping to get some medical attention. 32-year-old kavita says she's been here for four days. begging for oxygen that has not come. i'm getting anxious, she says. no one is listening to me here. >> reporter: are you struggling to breathe? >> i'm unable to breathe freely, she tells us. no one is taking care of me. in the next room, more than 20 patients are packed in tightly. this is what now passes for the intensive care unit. family members have taken on the role of primary carers, where medical staff are simply
unavailable. this man complains no one will change his wife's soiled bedding. suddenly there is a commotion. will someone please call the doctor, this man shouts? his mother, 55-year-old rajbala appears to be slipping away. her sons work furiously to revive her. a doctor comes in and tells them to stop crowding her. but the family is inconsolable. we've been here for six days and only today we got the ventilator for my mother, he tells us. the oxygen is out. we had to bring an oxygen cyl cylinder. it's a story we hear again and again. one man approaches us pleading -- his wife can't get a bed.
no one is listening to me. i've tried everything, he says. please help me or she will die. i'm not a doctor. i'm so sorry. i can't help you. another man tells us his wife is struggling to breathe outside. they won't let her in. we spot the hospital administrator and ask him what's going on. >> this man says his wife is dying outside and needs oxygen. he insists that oxygen isn't the problem but says they are desperately short of staff. those who do work here risk becoming patients themselves. these men tell us they move a dozen bodies a day. have you ever seen anything like this before? are you not worried to be working here? you're not wearing protective gear.
we should be wearing proper ppe they say, but even the doctors don't have it, so how can we? we hear screams coming from the icu. rajbala has flatlined again. her son desperately pumps her chest. a doctor comes in. he takes her pulse. but it's too late. this time there is no point in trying to resuscitate her. the agony of her sons is shared by so many in this country. failed by a healthcare system on the brink of collapse and a government accused of mismanaging this crisis.
just a few hundred yards away in the same hospital complex, it's a very different picture. orderly lines of people patiently wait to be vaccinated. following the prime minister's announcement that anyone over 18 can be inoculated. a state lawmaker is among 600 people getting their vaccine. the hospital administrator and local journalists eagerly stand by to capture the moment. we were just in the hospital over there. >> yeah. >> it was shocking to see -- >> why? >> it was shocking. >> why? >> because the conditions are so bad here. why do you think india has been hit so badly? the hospital administrator interrupts and warns him that we have been asking too many questions. sir, you don't need to coach him what to say.
he's telling him what to say. >> we are trying the best. and some problems were there. but we are trying. >> do you accept that the government has failed its people in the handling of this crisis? because i've been talking to a lot of people and i have to tell you, people are angry. people feel that this didn't need to be so ugly. the situation is not only bad here, we're trying to find solutions, he says. we're increasing the number of beds and we're working tirelessly around the clock. but back in the covid ward, the impact of those efforts is not yet being felt. rajbala's body is left for nearly an hour before it is
finally moved. india's leaders may promise that everything is being done to end this crisis, but for now, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. >> i mean, clarissa, it is -- that report is so important. you're taking us right inside. i mean, these are the scenes that have played out all over the world. and we haven't always been able to see them, but there they are. you can't ignore them. it is hard to not turn away. i'll be honest, it is heart breaking. >> reporter: yeah. i mean, it's absolutely heart breaking. and it's just everywhere you go, brianna. everyone you talk to has somebody they know who has died. somebody they cared about who has died. no one in this country is immune to this collective grief. and the problem is becoming more and more widespread and the government is announcing various efforts. you know n our story, you notice most particularly the acute
shortage of medical staff. five doctors taking care of that entire ward of people. now the indian government is saying they're going to draft in medical students. final year medical students will be brought in to try to help tackle this immense crisis. but the reality is a lot of people say it's too little too late. and now india is staring down the barrel at the peak of this second wave, not due to come yet for another ten days. and people are just horrified honestly to see how much more suffering they can even take. >> clarissa, you talk about how you have been to a lot of war zones and not seen this much suffering. that hospital is a war zone. i mean, that hospital honest to god looked like a war zone there and a war going in the wrong direction. in terms of what they can do going forward, i mean, how strictly are lockdowns being followed at this point? >> well, as you can see, there are lockdowns across the country, but this is what a
lockdown looks like in dehli. this is no where are near as crowded as this street would normally be. there are people all over the streets. there's cars. there's traffic. people are moving around. and the concern that the government has and i think a lot of people can sympathize or understand this, is that in a country like india with 1.4 billion people nearly, an economic lockdown can have such extreme repercussions that they're almost as painful as this sort of second wave of the virus itself. so you're constantly juggling these two opposing needs. but i think most people here understand frankly that the situation is unsustainable as it stands. while the government says it's getting out oxygen to the places that need to get it, we're hearing stories everyday of people dying in hospitals because there simply isn't enough oxygen. >> and we've been hearing stories from so many reporters,
clarissa, who said the government is covering things up, they're not being honest. you showed us that playing out in front of your cram. thank you so much for your very important report. we appreciate it. so here at home, covid cases are going down. and as life returns to normal, couples planning weddings in washington, d.c. just got a bit blind sided. up to 250 people can come to their reception, but nobody is allowed to dance. >> no dancing. plus, rudy giuliani is ready for a fight, but does former president trump have his back? [ crowd cheering ] [ engine revving ] [ race light countdown ] ♪ ♪ when you save money with allstate you feel like you're winning. safe drivers save 40%
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all right, you guys, thank you so much for coming on to talk about this because this is on the minds of so many couples across the country as they're dealing with different restrictions. in d.c., let's look at what you're talking about. venues at 25% capacity for up to 250 people. venues with more than 250 people, guests remain seated, socially distanced. venues must adhere to rules applied to restaurants if food is served. standing and dancing not allowed for receptions here. jillian, to you, tell what you say you were expecting to have this summer, you know, the size of the wedding that you were having and how you think this may be impacting you. >> yeah, for sure. thank you again for having me this morning. so, my husband and i got married in july of last year. so we had our ceremony, but now we were really hoping for july 10th of this year to actually have our reception.
so, bringing everybody in, all of our loved ones from across the country and even a lot of o our friends live outside of the united states as well. so, we were hoping to bring everybody together and celebrate and just, you know, be able to celebrate our marriage. so it is really frustrating that this ban is in place at this time. >> so when we're talking, stephanie, about what is going to be affected here, you know, you think of -- and you tell me your impression of this, you have, of course, the reception. people tend to mingle. you have the dances, not just the fun dancing but also those very important traditional dances the father/daughter, mother/son dances. so are all of these things not allowed under the ban? >> that is correct. everything from standing and mingling at a cocktail hour before you head into the reception to not being able to have a first dance. can you imagine? d.c. is saying you may not even have a first dance with your new
husband or wife. you can't have a father/daughter dance. mother/son dance. and certainly, you know, no dancing with all of your friends and family. everyone has to remain seated the whole time, which is not what couples are wanting for their wedding day. >> no, they're not. jillian, let me just challenge you a little bit here. you know that weddings have been super spreader events. what were you planning to do for precautions? >> for sure. and really the safety of all of our guests should be the number one priority. so, i really think at this point there's a reasonable solution for this. we were planning to all wear masks this entire time during the wedding. and, you know, if d.c. wants to meet halfway and allow standing, dancing, mingling, we can even require a negative covid-19 test or show a vaccination card. you know, i really think at this
point in the pandemic we are able to do these things to just really make sure that everyone is safe. i really hope they can meet us the middle here. >> stephanie the kind of co confusing thing is d.c. is right in between maryland and virginia and they have different rules, right? >> that is correct. they're completely different. a lot less restrictive. they are certainly not banning standing during a cocktail hour. they are not banning any sort of dancing. they have reduced capacities which are still greater than what d.c. is allowing, but none of those further restrictions are in place, so couples are turning to virginia and maryland. even at the last minute, i'm in the process of a wedding set for last week that was in washington, d.c. moving them to virginia so they can celebrate. >> it is a balancing act between getting back to normal and doing these obviously important things
in life. and trying to manage public health as well, but you're right the middle of conversation. jillian, congratulations to you and james on your upcoming wedding. may it be as beautiful -- may the marriage be as beautiful as the wedding i meant so say. stephanie, thanks so much for really talking about the broad impact here. >> thank you. >> thank you. bill and melinda gates are not so lucky. they're not as lucky as jillian and james. they are divorcing after 27 years of marriage. how will it impact their charitable foundation and their fortune? >> that's some cold water you just threw on that wedding love right there. that is rough. tough turn. >> well, i was trying to make a turn and that's how i did it. >> all right. and at the end of another supreme court term, it's long-time silent justice is suddenly speaking up. i'm ordering some burritos! oh, nice. burritos?! get a freshly made footlong from subway® instead. with crisp veggies on freshly baked bread. just order in the app!
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christine romans joins me now. obviously we say the bezos marriage break up lot of money here. it's almost incalculable. >> there's a big charitable effort as well here from this couple. look, they put out this statement yesterday really got an awful lot of attention saying why they were breaking up this marriage after 27 years the two are splitting up. let me read to you what they said there. they said that they came to the point where they couldn't grow as a couple anymore. they vowed to keep working together, running the bill and melinda gates foundation. that's probably the most influential charity on the planet. they have spent $54 billion promoting global health and fighting poverty and in the u.s. bolstering early childhood education. bill gates co-founded microsoft. he is worth something like $137 billion. john, he owns 100 million microsoft shares. every time the stock moves a dollar, he makes 100 million more.
that makes this divorce the biggest since jeff bezos and mckenzie scott split a couple years ago. scott received a quarter of bezos's amazon shares that made her the world's 18th richest person just like that. how will the gates split affect their fortune? we know from the court filings they have a plan here, a separation agreement with the court on how to dissolve the marriage and the finances. that's different from a prenup. we also know the couple has dedicated their lives to giving their money away. the couple along with warren buffett created that giving pledge back in 2010 encourages the world's richest people to give most of their wealth to charity. >> there was this collective gasp in the world yesterday. the gates foundation philanthropy, it's an understatement. they're almost like a whole other governmental entity that takes care of the stuff in the world that no one else is dealing with. >> the sticky problems, the problems that don't have easy outcomes, they spend billions trying to fix. trying to program around the problems in the world and fix them.
it's so successful that there are other very smart, successful rich people who have just said, you know what, we're going to give you our money, like warren buffett, we're going to give you our money because your foundation does it so well. another thing, they've been giving money fight against the pandemic, 1 and three quarters billion dollars over the last year. that was focussed on equity, getting vaccines and medical supplies in an equitable way around the world. >> that work we're told will continue. >> they say the foundation will continue, the marriage will not. >> christine romans, thank you very much. brianna? >> that's the thing, john. things you learn about yourself. i learned i am personally invested in the gates' marriage. i was very sad to find out they were breaking up. 27 years. you know, that's a long time. >> it is a long time. and, you know, the foundation has to continue. it is just so important to so many people. let's hope they can find a way to keep that going. >> that's right. the supreme court justice known as the, quote, silent justice, has suddenly found his voice. as the supreme court wraps up
this term, clarence thomas has gotten, well, chatty shall we say. look, you know, i guess work from home maybe has changed all kinds of people? is that what's happening here? what is it? >> no. okay. first of all, this is the very last day of oral arguments for this session. so for our audience, they can tune in at 10:00 a.m. eastern time and hear justice thomas and all eight of his colleagues live in a way they never were able to do before. before the pandemic all nine would be sitting there on their elevated mahogany bench jumping in, interrupting each other, non-stop. now it's almost like a committee hearing by phone because the chief goes down the row by eseniority and calls on each justice. well, this has given a great opportunity to clarence thomas. it's also given a great opportunity to the newest justice, amy coney barrett. we get to hear from them in equal measure as their
colleagues. and justice thomas was actually talking more last year at this time over the teleconference hearings than he did in the last decade. asking questions of each side, you know, showing his hand in ways we hadn't seen before. although i have to say, bri, he is one of our most predictable justices on the right wing, but he has this deep baritone voice that probably many in our audience have never heard and is very distinctionve so he enhanc the arguments. as a journalist, it's not as much fun as them -- the free for all that we've become accustom to where they really probe the weaknesses in an argument in a way that they were able to do when they all just jumped in. >> yeah. and look, it's not the same as being there in person. i know for you, joan, but maybe that is something we have to look forward to in the months ahead. >> i am so looking forward it to. >> this is great just to hear their thinking all of the
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