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you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. voila! maybe a couple throw pillows would help. get a strategy gut check from our trade desk. ♪ tonight, a major turning point in our long battle against covid-19. the cdc saying people who are fully vaccinated no longer need to wear a mask indoors or outdoors, except in certain circumstances. president joe biden calling it a great day, republicans in congress trying to downplay the deadly capitol insurrection as hero michael fanone described
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the horrible violence he experienced, and we obtained body cam video. also, print -- prince harry compares royal life to living in a zoo. i want to bring in dr. sanjay gupta. thanks for joining tonight. there's a lot going on. it's a huge announcement by the cdc after more than a year of masks, of distancing, fear of spreading the virus, people who have been vaccinated have way less restrictions. how important is this moment? >> it's a big moment, don, i mean, it in some ways, i didn't think we would get to this moment anytime soon and certainly not this soon. i mean, in some ways it feels early, really, for this. i was talking to folks at the cdc last week, and they were saying, it's likely that indoor masking is still going to be recommended for some time to come. i thought maybe even into the summer. so it felt sudden. but it also seems to follow the science.
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the three big questions, you know, the vaccines, they protect you from getting sick. we've known that since the trials came out. we now know the vaccines limit your chance of becoming infected. you're not likely to become infected after you've had the vaccine, the critical thing we learned over the past few weeks, don, even if you've been vaccinated and get infected, that the likelihood you would then be able to spread the virus to somebody else is really, really low. and i think that that's what really pivoted the cdc towards saying, okay, if you're vaccinated you really no longer need to wear a mask. >> how did they figure it out, sanjay? >> you know, they watched the case numbers fall over time, they've seen what's happened here, we're still in a it, don, i want to be clear about that, 600 roughly died today. you know, any other day, that's two plane crashes, any other time that would be horrifying but compared to what it was, the numbers have come way down. they've just been following these scientific studies for some time. if i could show you, i don't
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know if we have this graphic from israel, they alluded to this during a press conference today, but basically it shows that after two weeks, after the second shot your chance of getting a symptomatic infection, protection is 94%. but the asymptomatic infection, i don't even know i have it, that sort of infection, 90% protected. that's really good. when they started to look at all this data, that's what triggered these changes. >> weren't medical workers part of the study? >> yeah. so they were following medical workers, in israel, they were following -- in a couple of other studies, general population as well. it was a variety of people. but they had a pretty good cross section and they had a good idea that they were likely going to 'a significant drop in infections overall, but i think what really -- it wasn't that it surprised them, but what they really noticed was that they weren't seeing any secondary infections as well. >> all right, the reason i hunkered down on that, if that's an actual term, but, you know, we'll go with it.
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with these medical workers, wouldn't they be wearing masks, how do they know if it was a vaccine, and not the vaccines plus the masks, preventing transmission? i guess you could say every little bit helps but how did they determine which was more effective? >> yeah, no, it's -- some of those situations, people were wearing masks, and indoors, obviously, for -- during this whole covid time, wherever you are, you've been wearing masks but they followed these health care workers in and out of their communities, they followed them over time so, you know, even health care workers, when they say, okay, health care workers have a certain rate of infection, often times it's hard to say exactly where they got it just because you're a health care worker doesn't mean you're obviously always in the hospital so like in schools for example they were seeing the community rate of transmission was often higher in the community versus in the schools and people who were getting positive diagnoses were often getting it not while they were in the school but in the community and same thing with the hospital workers. so masks, obviously, play a big
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difference in terms of curbing transmission, but in this case they came to the conclusion that it was the vaccine reducing the likelihood of actually having a high enough viral load in the body. even if you got an infection your viral load couldn't rise to the point where you could still transmit it. >> here's the president talking today about the new guidance. >> the rule is very simple. get vaccinated, or wear a mask until you do. if you're not vaccinated, or not fully vaccinated, you should wear a mask for your own protection and the protection of other unvaccinated people. the choice is yours. >> so it seems like there's a real risk of people who did not get vaccinated, no longer wearing masks and spreading the virus, i mean, is it a good idea to rely on the honor system in this situation? i know, sanjay, quite frankly, walking my dogs today, dropped my mask and then all of a sudden i couldn't find it and i felt
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like i'd lost my security blanket. that's a real thing. i'm walking around without a mask. no one is asking me if i'm fully vaccinated. it's indeed the honor system, and you don't know if people are telling the truth. >> i think it's going to be a real issue, don, i think you and i will have conversations about tense situations this may cause now because of the honor system. let me make a distinction between outdoors and indoors. outside walking your dog. it's pretty clear now, on other data, other than the data we were just talking about, that outdoor transmission is really, really unlikely, maybe basically nonexistent. there have been a few possible confirmed cases of outdoor transmission but it's really unlikely. i don't think outdoor masking is really necessary anymore, frankly if you're vaccinated, or even unvaccinated because the virus just doesn't spread that way. i know that's jarring to hear for people. we live and learn. not all viruses a behave the
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same. i think this is a social science experiment in some ways, there's these technology companies that are trying to develop apps so that you can show, like a tsa pre-check sort of model where you can say i'm vaccinated and you can go into a certain line and get through things quicker and not have to wear a mask. other people say that's an infringement because it's health care information. the federal government's not going to mandate this. but let's say, don, you're going into on a indoor concert sometime this summer, it is possible that if you have proof of vaccination in some way, that you'll be, you know, in a different line, and not have to wear a mask, whereas people who don't have that proof will have to wear a mask. we could be in that sort of dichotomy at some point. we'll see. but i think the next few months will be really interesting given how the cdc is approaching this. >> that's going to be real -- especially even now, as you know, certain buildings, there's a little workout room in my building and people come in, sometimes they're masked and sometimes they're not. others will walk in and say,
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hey, i'm fully vaccinated, do you mind if i don't wear the mask? it's been the honor system happening probably privately but now when you're in public spaces, i think things are obviously, as you said, we're going to be relying on that, which is -- we'll see. time will tell and the data will bear it out. eight members of the new york yankees have tested positive for covid, sanjay, all of them have been fully vaccinated. what do you think is going on here? they are -- they test positive but then they can't -- it's not enough to spread, right? >> yeah, i think there's two things to keep in mind here, one, it was interesting, i followed the story of the yankees, so these -- this is a group of people who get tested regularly even if they've been vaccinated. part of their protocol. most people who have been vaccinated aren't getting tested or certainly not regularly. they get tested regularly, and as you point out eight of them come back positive despite having been vaccinated.
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it tells us two things, these breakthrough infections happen and they may be happening at a higher rate than we realize but the larger point is that they really didn't get sick, one person had mild symptoms, but mostly they didn't get sick and what you just said, they're not likely at all to then be able to spread the virus according to the studies -- >> that means the vaccine is working. >> that means the vaccine is working. that means you've got enough of these antibodies in your body that even if the virus gets into your body, the antibodies get to work so the virus can't start to replicate and get to a load high enough it could then spread from you to someone else and infect someone else. that's the key. people thought that might be the case. they hoped that might be the case, prove that would be the case. >> also, re, these guys are -- they're all together, so if one of them gets it, there is a chance that another one -- they're in a bubble together, that's the whole point of it to keep them safe but if they're in that bubble together they will be in close confines and probably give it to each other.
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am i wrong about that? >> exactly. no. >> okay. >> that's exactly right. i would be curious, i don't know if they were wearing masks or not, i mean, these are other details that could be important but the basic premise is right, they were vaccinated, they still got infected. people say, well, the vaccine doesn't work, no, no, no, the vaccine was designed to really prevent you from getting seriously ill, which it does very well. now we also know that it can prevent you from -- or at least decrease the likelihood that you'll get infected, and certainly decrease the likelihood that you will develop an infection that's big enough to actually spread to somebody else? >> so now i want to talk to you about this. you've got a new cnn special, airs on saturday at 9:00 p.m. and it's called race for the vaccine, a clip, and then we'll talk about it. >> the team gave the world the first glimpse of its new enemy.
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each coronavirus particle filled with genetic instructions called rna, and covered in a corona, or crown of protein spikes, inhale one of these viruses, and the spikes latch onto cells in our airways. the spikes then change shape, fusing the virus and the cell together. at this point the virus can replicate, and fast. >> so when you compare those first days, we were learning about the virus, to now having three vaccines in the u.s., tons of supply, you know, we've got the whole thing about the masks, that sounds like an incredible scientific accomplishment. >> they called it the moon shot, don. at first i thought that was an exaggeration, too much hyperbole, it's incredible. i don't think anybody really thought we would have three authorized vaccines within
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basically a year of identifying the genetic sequence of this. it's a pretty incredible story. these scientists all over the world, on five continents, following these teams, making bets and gambles to figure out what was going to work. it was a race to the vaccine to see who would get there first. we know how that race ends but the story along the way is incredible. i've got to say, don, you and i have talked about this before, these vaccines, they save lives, there's countries around the world that simply don't have them. i have a lot of relatives in india, they wish they had these vaccines, 2% to 3% of the country have the vaccine. i have an uncle who died. a little bit younger than my dad. i was talking to my dad, and he said if he was still in india, wouldn't have been able to get the vaccine. he would have had the same fate. and if my uncle lived in the united states, he probably
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wouldn't have died. in some places we can't give the vaccines away, like in some communities here in the states. >> i heard you say you're 71 years old. >> yeah. >> tested positive at the beginning of the week and by the end of the week he was gone. >> yup, he got sick on a tuesday, he died by thursday. this is two weeks ago now, and it was very shocking. it was like a -- like a trauma death. >> sanjay, i'm so sorry for you loss and we're thinking about everyone. your relatives, and everyone in india, they're really -- they're really in a bad way right now. sanjay, you've got the book -- what's the name of your book again? >> keep sharp. >> keep sharp. you've got keep sharp, you've got chasing life, your new podcast and then you have this special that airs this weekend on saturday at 9:00 p.m. sanjay, you're a busy man, we need you right now. you stay safe, thank you, sir. >> thanks for having me, don, anytime. now i want to turn to the
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brutal truth about the capitol insurrection, the truth you heard tonight from officer michael fanone who was attacked as he tried to defend the capitol. as some republicans are trying to whitewash what happened. joining me is denver riggleman, and amanda carpenter, good evening to both of you, so good to have you on. congressman riggleman, listen to what d.c. metropolitan police officer michael fanone told me moments ago about how his experience changed him. >> it's definitely changed my perspective on quite a few things. you know, like i still -- i am who i am. you know, i'm a free born son of america. you know, i make my own decisions about different issues, whether it's politically or personally. nobody tells me what to think, how to think. but i recognize like the dangerousness of political
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rhetoric and how it, you know, resulted in the violence that we saw on january 6th at the capitol. >> congressman, when you hear officer fanone speak out like this, do you think it will do anything to make republicans recognize the danger? >> i hope it would but, you know, we've been seeing videos since january 6th, and, i haven't told a lot of people this, don, but a good friend of mine i graduated with in high school was with capitol police, i knew so many of them. they protected me. i went on trips with them. i've talked to a few of them and there's a little bit of shell shock that people aren't believing the violence that they witnessed that day, and listening to officer fanone, if we haven't changed minds in the last four months i don't know what else to do. i would hope that everybody and every office would have a visit from him and talk to him about his experience. i think if that happened it
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change some minds. but you talk about rhetoric and an idea of what happened on the capitol, it's so baked in right now, don, that i don't know if anybody's going to change their mind and i think it's a shame, as we should be protecting law enforcement. i think the best thing about congress, what you can do in congress, is have a voice, it's to protect those who protect you. and right now i feel like we're letting them down, and it breaks my heart to see something like that. i served in the military, he served to protect me. it's an oath that you take to serve and protect. or to protect the constitution. i feel like we're letting them down right now with our own oath to the constitution. >> i speak to him almost every day, just a couple days after the insurrection and today i spoke -- he was on capitol hill, he sounded down, and then during the interview earlier he said, you know, every time i tell the story, it's like a piece of me, you know, goes away. i'm sure you saw it. and it's just -- he is basically screaming at people to believe their own eyes, and their own ears. do you think this is going to change anything?
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it's just unfathomable. >> it's not on him. it's on us. i had the same reaction listening to him talk. i was just thinking, it is disgraceful that he has to go door to door on capitol hill asking people to believe what is so clearly on tape. that's not on him, don, that's on us. and i do think that there are many republicans that want to whitewash this and make it go away. if they're allowed to do that, that's our fault. you know, this is part of my work i try to do, i have friends working with republican accountability project, denver is involved in a lot of things. it's on us to make sure that people don't turn away from this. there's a long time between now and the next election. i refuse to accept the idea that this cake is baked because a lot of these members, they can run from this question for a little while but they can't hide forever. they will go on the record, they will be held accountable and we
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will make sure this never happens again. i refuse to accept any other reality. >> let's play what we were just talking about, amanda, here it is. >> you were on capitol hill today. what was that like? >> it was -- it's exhausting. you know, telling that story is exhaustion. every time i get out there and speak publicly, or really just speak to anybody, i feel like i leave a piece of myself there, and i just -- i'm never going to get that back. like, i'm getting tired. i hope that, you know, me speaking out publicly, inspires other people, other officers, you know, other members of congress, staff members, whoever, if you had an experience on january 6th, you know, it's time for everybody to
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come forward. >> congressman, amanda's right, i mean, and if we let people forget, especially those of us who have a platform and a voice, you're a former lawmaker, it is on us. what he said was astounding. >> we're accountable. you know, and -- you know, i -- no, i have stories in my life when you're a military veteran and things i've seen that when you tell them, when somebody wants to know about them, you are exhausted and what he went through, not only the physical pain, but the mental pain of having that type of assault done to him. thinking he's going to die. >> not just him. >> not just him, right. fellow officers, epeople he shares with. i know that feeling of thinking you're going to die. i know that. and when i hear him i get emotional. and that's why i'm having a tough time tonight, and i apologize, don, but, you know, i've been through times where you're to a point where you're
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like, well, this is it, you know, we're good. i'm done. and when you get there and come out on the other side, there's an exhaustion and a mental issue that sometimes you go through that i went through, took me about six to eight months, where you think you're cool but you're not. and then when you have to restate that story over and over you're trying to get people to listen to you, i can't imagine what that's like. i didn't have that, i don't have people who weren't believing me, i didn't have people that said that was just a tourist trip, whatever that knuckle head said the other day, you know, about saying it was no different than a tour, right, and that's the thing that you have problems with, is i want to use much stronger language about this, i want to use stronger language than knuckle head or somebody who's ignorant. but we have to keep our dignity. and amanda made an incredible point that at some point the people have to stand up and we have to hold those accountable that won't listen to people like michael fanone, the capitol
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police. there's an emotional component to this. i love the deputy for what he did. i'd like to have a whiskey with him and talk to him. i really would. >> we'll see if we can arrange that. amanda, thanks for putting it in perspective. great way of putting it. it's on us. >> and we can do something about it. >> and we can do something about it. >> thank you, amanda and congressman, appreciate it. republican after republican trying to whitewash the deadly insurrection, what can we do to stop the lies and misinformation? a hero police officer michael fanone telling me this tonight. >> those are lies. and peddling that bull shit is an assault on every officer that fought to defend the capitol. it's disgraceful.
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attack on the capitol, despite police officers like michael fanone describing the horrible violence they experienced. let's discuss now with bren dan nihan, a professor of government at dartmouth college, thank you, professor, for joining us. >> i want to play this clip from michael fanone responding to lawmakers and others downplaying the insurrection, misleading americans about what happened. here it is. >> i'm not interested in getting into political squabbles. i'm not an elected official. i don't expect anybody to give two -- about my opinions. i will say this, those are lies. and peddling that bull shit is an assault on every officer that fought to defend the capitol. it's disgraceful. >> so bren dan, we have videos
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of the events firsthand, firsthand accounts of what happened. indictments against the rioters, yet there's still so much denial. why don't people believe what they see with their own eyes? >> it's pretty remarkable. memories are short, people don't pay close attention to politics most of the time. i think we're already seeing that crystallizing moment that happened after january 6th fading. officer fanone is an incredible spokesperson to help people remember, but, you know, i think for a lot of people it's already slipping away. there's so much going on with covid and everything else, and unfortunately, people -- you know, they're not paying attention, they've maybe forgotten, and partisan zip is a hell of a drug. there's a lot of reasons people want to minimize what took place that day. we're all vulnerable to misinformation. the people i really fault are the members of congress who were there on january 6th, who know
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what happened, and who are now minimizing or whitewashing or denying what took place. you know, people trust them. people trust -- people have sources they trust, and those sources are giving them terrible information. and it's helping us move past something we can't move past, the violent insurrection to overturn the results of an election, a democratic election in this country. it's remarkable to me that we're just a few months afterwards and we barely talk about it. you know, they could have killed the vice president of the united states. they could have killed the speaker of the house. that could have been a cataclysmic event, even as it was, it was a tragedy. >> is there something about americans that make us so susceptible to disinformation? >> well, we're obviously extremely polarized. that doesn't help. you know, people are going to have information sources they trust. and, you know, if those sources
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aren't giving them good information, right, if they're not either changing the subject or talking about something else, or denying or whitewashing what took place, then unfortunately it may be hard to reach people. that's why people like officer fanone are so important. because he can speak credibly to lots of kinds of people. he has no political interest in this issue as he said, right, other than just making sure that it's not forgotten. and i think that's quite powerful and maybe that's something that can break through. >> how can we reverse course here and get people to stop buying into disinformation, to think more critically, really? >> well, i think we can do a lot to promote media literacy. that's something that educators are starting to think about how to address more effectively, the k-12 level and in college, but of course we have most of the adult population that is already out of the formal education system and we have to think about them too. there are things that social media platforms can do, and things that media organizations
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can do as far as not amplifying misinformation and not having people on air who will lie to their viewers, i think that's a really important step. but ultimately we also need political incentives to be accurate, to not lie to the public. and that means defeating people, you know, causing them to suffer political consequences that will dissuade future politicians from lying to us. we had a president, you know, tell the -- you know, make false statements more than 20,000 times. you know, right now that's -- you know, he rode the birther myth to the white house. in those -- under those circumstances, how can we be surprised when other politicians follow that same playbook? so i do think we need to rebalance those incentives and that's going to put the burden on all of us to hold those politicians accountable. i will just say this, hold them accountable when they're on your side. it's easy to say that people on the other side who are lying are bad. it's harder to say it about the people on your own side.
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that's what we depend on. >> i agree. >> we need folks like denver riggleman -- >> professor, thank you so much, i appreciate you joining us. i loved what you had to say, your perspective. we'll have you back, thanks. >> thank you. so a study shows black drivers are stopped and searched more than white drivers. we'll look at how one low-level infraction draws officer's eyes. plus, prince harry in a stunning new interview, speaking out about why he really left the royal family. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. daughter: slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide.
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something as simple as an air freshener hanging from a rearview mirror can get drivers pulled over by police and those traffic stops can go horribly wrong for black drivers. here's cnn's nick watt. >> the law in some states says you pulled over, an air freshener dangling from your rearview mirror. daunte wright told his mom that's why he was stopped before an officer fatally shot him. cops say he was stopped for expired tags, then they noticed the air freshener and found an outstanding warrant. either way, minnesota's aclu is concerned about police using low-level infractions as an kus for pre-textual stops. when phil was stopped in 2019 -- >> he was following me for 20
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minutes. >> culvert hit record on his phone. >> can i ask you why you stopped me. >> you can't have anything ranging from your rearview mirror? >> yael. >> soon, a relentless line of questioning begins. >> any marijuana in the car? >> no. >> mr. culvert, when's the last time you smoked margin? >> i never smoked it. >> whether you spoke smoked it a few days ago. >> i don't smoke. >> no other illegal drugs. >> no. >> do you have a medical marijuana card? >> no, i don't need it, because i don't smoke. >> he should have let phil go after the first question and he didn't find or see anything wrong. >> but the deputy kept questioning, asked to search the car. >> i don't care about your race or gender, anything, man. >> you don't care about my -- >> i'm here enforcing laws. >> it wasn't legal for this deputy to pull phil over because he had this thing hanging. >> you can't have minor air fresheners be a legal
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justification to pull somebody over. >> there are state legislators in minnesota who agree, but is that the solution? >> if an air freshener hanging from a car has an opportunity to distract a driver that causes a crash, that kills a child, ask the parent of that child if that law should be taken off the books. >> here's the issue, stanford university researchers found in a 2020 study that black drivers are stopped more than white drivers. searched more than white drivers. >> we need cultural training and diversity training. >> i think law enforcement officers should look at how are the trainers. >> the deputy who pulled culvert over was a trainer, he was fired over this and similar steps as the sheriff's office wsh dereached out to the deputy for comment, got none. >> it was never about the air freshener. >> so culvert did not back down. >> so when this all goes through
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and you see i'm good and you see that i don't got nothing, what happens i go about my day and you just wasted 30 minutes of my time. i'm going to definitely -- >> my last brush with a deputy, i was definitely going a few miles too fast, and he just pulled up next to me in the next light and just said, dude, slow down. has something like that ever happened to you? >> i don't hate cops, i hate the bad ones out there doing wrong for us, but the good ones, fighting the good fight with us, you know, thank you. >> and phil culvert did get a financial settlement from the la paz county sheriff's department where a new sheriff is now in charge, and he told us that culvert's video, and other videos did reveal a problem culture within the department, deputies were under pressure to perform, and there wasn't enough supervision. he says that is now changing. don is this. >> thank you, nick, happens a lot, though, and you get tangled
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up in the system and you have to unspoil it. it's a hole thing. w. kamau bell is here to talk about that and more. does all this come down to the dangers of driving while black, we'll talk about it next. this is our block. our place. our people. our block, it's just like yours. full of the people who shaped you. they all deserve care and access to the vaccine. no matter their address, income, or skin color. not having a ride to get the vaccine. can't be the reason you don't get it. you wanna help? donate a ride today.
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an air freshener dangling from a car's rearview mirror mirror, and a traffic stop that can go horribly wrong. i want to talk more about this. great show on sunday night, by the way, kamau, let's talk about what we just saw before the break. that traffic stop sure was something. i don't know what you call it. they continued questioning, the young man said it was never about the air freshener. we've talked about being pulled over, profiled, what do you think when you watch this? we're looking at a traffic stop. this goes beyond into other things, beyond traffic stops, then i said you get tangled up in the system, and then you have to unspool yourself and you have to spend more money and you have a record and all these -- that's what we've been trying to explain to people about profiling what that means, but go on, take it away. >> don, i can just sit here and keep nodding while your talk, i don't have a problem doing that. >> yeah. >> but yeah, i think the thing i
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saw when i see that young man, i'm glad he's alive. we've seen so much footage of something like that happening, and you sort of don't want him to speak so directly to the police officer, and in the same token, yeah, speak up, talk. and yet we know that there's -- we think -- we often think that this is only happening in the ones we have footage of but this kind of thing is happening every day all the time and we don't always get to see the footage. >> it's not always police officers, you think about people who just think, like, hey, you're black, and i can just make up anything about you, and someone's going to believe me. >> yeah, i mean, you know, we talk about microaggressions, which i say are racism when nobody dies, those kind of things happen all the time, all day long, and not even talking to my black friends about it. and they're like, what, i don't understand what you're talking about. >> well, maybe they'll understand if they watch united shades of america, the latest episode of your show, united shades, the episode is based in
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portland, about the history and current power of protests. let's play a clip. >> i remember the first night that i got gas, the sensation is your throat starts to burn and then your sinuses start to burn and then your eyes start to burn. it -- it hurts. the feds were so brutal. they were there to [ bleep ] us up. they did, they accomplished that. >> okay. i'll see you when i see you. >> there's got to be a better way than taking 19-year-old kids and young adults, as we're trying to make a difference, and using chemical weapons on them. >> i shouldn't be, like, going out there with pepper spray and a baton and a taser to keep myself safe for preaching that my life matters. i shouldn't have to do that. i really shouldn't have to do that. >> thank you, mom. >> thank you, mom. >> kamau, there's a lot of debate today, as there has been through the years, about what
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constitutes an acceptable form of protest. talk to us about that, and the double standard that's often applied to protests by people of color. >> well, let's be clear about something, don, this country wouldn't exist such as it is without protests. this country was started on a protest. this country, the people who came to this country, cleared the land of native americans, brought black people over here, brought africans over here, it was all a previous to for what they wanted, more freedom. when you talk about the boston tea party, the american revolution, all of that was protest, that stuff we call patriotism. we want people to be proud of it, but the things happening right now in the streets, that's protest too, and it's all about expanding the rights of who this country treats as a citizen, and making sure that we all have access to justice. >> let me just say something about your show, it's a good thing, when your show comes on on sunday night, like it's time to sit down and learn something. it's like a beer. or a tequila, or a glass of scotch or whatever and watch.
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you know what i'm saying? and you learn -- i almost said you learn "s," you learn stuff from watching your show, kamau. it's great. congratulations on the success. >> i'm allowed to say "s" on my show. >> you can say it if you want, but, you know -- >> that's on you. kamau, thank you. be sure to tune in, an all new episode airs this sunday 10:00 p.m. only on cnn. trust me, you want to watch it. it's fantastic. prince harry's extraordinary new interview about why he left the royals, and what his dad has to do with it. ahhh! get out of here mouse. ahhh! ♪ don't flex your pecs. terminix.
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"armchair expert" the duke of sussex spoke of genetic pain. something, he says he inherited from prince charles, and something he is coming to terms with during therapy. >> i never saw it. i never knew about it. and then, suddenly, i started to piece it all together and go, okay, so, this is where he went to school. this is what happened. i know this bit about his life. i also know that's connected to his parents. >> yeah. >> so, that means that he is treating me the way that he was treated. >> exactly. >> which means, how can i change that for my own kids? and well, here i am. i have now moved my whole family to the u.s. well, that wasn't the plan. do you know what i mean? but sometimes, you have got to make decisions and put your family first, and put your mental health first. >> harry puts his royal parching days down to childhood trauma joking about being photographed playing naked billiards. he compared royal life to a mixture between the truman show and being in a zoo. >> it's the job, right? get on with it. in my early 20s, i was a case
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