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states capitol, just released by the justice department. it shows the horrifying moments a man armed with a flagpole tackled and beat down an officer trying to protect the capitol and the people there. before we play this, a warning, it is very hard to watch. it shows a police officer in distress, and again it is uncensored and includes profanities. >> fucking piece of hit? attack america, fuck that! take your shit off .
>> the man in that video, the one m the red jacket, is thomas webster. he's a former marine, a retired nypd officer, being charged with seven federal crimes, including assaulting police, unlawfully entering capitol grounds with a dangerous weapon and civil disorder. despite that and despite federal prosecutors charging several others, some republican lawmakers are downplaying or outright dismissing what happened that day, refusing to acknowledge the heroism of the as far as who put their lives on the line. terrence gainer joins me. you saw the video. cnn and other outlets pressed to
get the video for transparency. you are a former u.s. capitol police chief. thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> what do you make of what you just saw? >> well, it's painful for me to watch and i wasn't even there, but having spent so much time on that hill with those officers, i get how it hurts them. and every time there's a video like this that comes out -- and i am glad there is transparency on that, it really rips the scab off of their psychological and personal wounds they had. they fought very hard that day for long periods of time. >> the fact that we're seeing this, and there remain denials by not just one, not just two, but more than a dozen republicans in the house, that this even happened, you know, using the words like a mob of missfits or a normal tourist visit, how do you reconcile the two? i mean, where do we go from
here? >> well, it's shameful and i think where we go is still press to have some full commission that can get at the truth. i know the various committees are trying, but that's not the way you do a comprehensive investigation. not when there's so many departments of the u.s. departments and bureaus involved in this and igs. we just can't get at the truth as to how to prevent this. and those members who take that position, they really ought to be ashamed. but the part that i think makes it most difficult this afternoon, because those as far as are up there now and their families are watching this type of thing, is they need to go to work and try to dismiss the liars and deniers that are there to protect whoil they do their job. so hats off to the officers that are there and the other departments that came to help. but we're not going to get better until we recognize what the problem is. and that webster, he ought to be
ashamed of himself, having been a career officer and a marine. that's not at all what those two operations stand for. he's a terrible representative of what many of us have devoted our life to. >> this also comes as the fbi, just in the last week, has warned lawmakers that online conspiracy theorists may carry out more acts of violence against people that they believe are part of what they call the kabal. that's a correct warning from the fbi, coupled with the fact that in his testimony this week, michael bolton, the inspector general, said it is difficult to directly point to who is in charge of security at the capitol. how can that be? >> well, i don't think that's the case at all. i don't agree with the inspector general. the chief of police, the acting chief of police is responsible for the security, overseen by
the members of the police board, two very experienced individuals from their own military and law enforcement background. so i think there's a lot -- they're in much better shape now than we were on the 6th. but i think there's a lot of improvements to be made. again, that's the challenge of trying to police in this open environment, the capitol police do not have enough personnel right now. we know that from the general honorary report. they're asking for more money and more time to get ready. the fences are still up and around, and i think we need to reinforce with the officers that we appreciate what they're doing, thank their families for sending them up there, but get at the heart of the matter. >> terrence gainer, thank you for weighing in on this and for your service to all of us. >> thank you. now to what was happening inside the capitol during the insurrection. two staffers for house speaker nancy pelosi are recounting
horrifying moments as they were locked down inside of a conference room on january 6th while pro-trump rioters roamed the halls screaming and banging on their door. drew griffin joins me now. you spoke exclusively to these staffers and their story is frightening. this is all part of your new special that will air this sunday night. tell us what they told you. >> reporter: that they were just simply scared to death and scared, poppy, that they were going to be dragged out of that conference room and beaten. they had no idea what lied on the other side of their door, and in this clip you'll see just the precautions they were taking and how scared they really were when that mob came through the halls of congress. there are now hundreds in the mob. roaming halls, banging on doors. taking photos and videos. some members of congress are being escorted to safety, but scattered behind doors,
staffers, news media, are in hiding. >> i remember telling my colleagues, we need to go into lockdown. >> reporter: inside house speaker pelosi's office, her staffers rushed to a conference room, locked the door. among them, speaking exclusively to cnn. >> we started hearing the banging, and, like, the hooting and hollering. >> nancy, nancy! >> very close to us. and then i realize, okay, music off, everybody silence your cell phones, turn the lights off. do not say anything. >> we're coming for you, nancy! >> it was menacing. i mean, they were like, where is nancy, where is nancy? where are the people that work for her? >> reporter: they had barricaded themselves in, hoping the door
would hold. >> it was coming from all directions and we heard somebody yell, i found nancy pelosi's office. people were chanting, nancy, nancy! they came in this way, so we're hearing it from behind us and in front of your door. the sound surrounded us, to the people we're just hearing shouting and yelling and banging and crashing and shattering of glass. but then once they started banging on the door, that's all i heard. that's what i still think about, the door sound. >> reporter: those two women, they're just staffers, poppy. they had nothing to do with any voting or any election or anything like that. they were just government workers, terrified that a mob was going to drag them out and beat them. they stayed in there for two hours until, finally, almost like being rescued from a school shooting scenario, a s.w.a.t. team had to come. this was one of the many, many
different aspects of this insurrection that we investigated for this documentary, which really holds a mirror up not only to that day, but what got us to that day, and why so many millions of americans really have been manipulated into believing lies. >> and where we go from here with so many continuing denials. drew, before you go, i wonder what was most surprising to you and your team working on this and reporting out this documentary. >> reporter: what was so surprising is we were able to track where a lot of this manipulation began, and it was very similar to investigations i've done on multi-level marketing scams. this thing began many, many years ago, manipulated by people who actually decided this is the route that they were going to take. and they brought so many
innocent patriot americans along for the ride with them, who continue, poppy, to be deluded. one line says this is an insurrection disguised as patriotism and wrapped in a trump flag. i think that really summarizes what's going on here and why so many people are having a hard time looking at january 6th, holding a mirror up to it. because they fear what they're going to see looking back at them. >> yes, well, but you have to look at it deeply to acknowledge it, to move forward. drew, i look forward to watching it. to you and your team, hats off. i know it was a ton of work. thank you. be sure to watch the cnn special report on democracy, it airs at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. still to come, senator joe manchin trying to find ten republicans to find his compromise on the senate voting rights bill.
plus, after a decades' long fight, juneteenth is now a federal holiday. we will talk to one woman who helped make it happen. and the florida gop says a tweet branding a gubernatorial candidate as anti-semitic was a typo. we'll join one of the officials who came to defend him ahead. with visible, you get unlimited data for as little as $25 a month. but when you bring a friend, you get a month for $5. so i'm bringing everyone within 12 degrees of me. bam, 12 months of $5 wireless. visible. wireless that gets better with friends.
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capitol hill, or maybe it's over. democratic senator joe manchin is trying to find ten republicans to support the compromise proposal he put forth this week on the election overhaul bill. it is the magic number, ten, that the democrats need to defend against a filibuster. manchin's proposal is pretty clear here and he lays out a number of things. one thing it includes is mandatory voter i.d. requirement across the country, also declares election day public holiday, mandates at least 15 consecutive days of early voting. but minority leader mitch mcconnell is vowing to block it. >> equally unacceptable, totally inappropriate, all republicans, i think, will oppose that, if that were to surface on the floor. >> jessica dean is with us live from capitol hill. good morning. john harwood is at the white
house. jess, let me begin with you. it was notable yesterday when stacey abrams said on cnn that she was supportive of what manchin is putting forward here, but it's not enough to get him on board. any chance he gets the ten he needs? >> reporter: at this point it is all but impossible, seeing that path forward to 60 votes here in the u.s. senate. that just seems like it's not happening. you just heard from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, and when he says no republican support, it means no republicans will be supporting this bill. we saw that press conference yesterday. my office is right down the hall. we saw so many republican senators going in to comment on this, that they would not be supporting it. senators that participate in other bipartisan legislation, so that tells you a lot. one thing to deep in mind, though, is the political game that democrats are playing. they want to look unified. they want to be unified when it comes to voting rights. so by getting manchin on board, and remember he was a lone holdout on this, it allows them to get 50 votes and present a unified argument against
republicans, saying that democrats are for this voting rights bill and it is the republicans that are obstructing it here, that they are a party of obstruction. so, again, it's a bit of a political play to get manchin to come on board. but at this point in terms of getting it to pass the senate, poppy, that seems all but impossible. >> so, then, john, then what happens? because you've got a continued belief within the biden white house and on down that the bipartisan works, it's necessary, and it can happen. but you've got a growing wing, more progressive wing of the democratic party that is fed up, and says we're wasting time on this. how much is the white house going to weigh in here? >> reporter: the white house, poppy, doesn't have many good options, either on this case in voting rights, or infrastructure. they have to pursue the potential for a bipartisan path, because they've got members on their side, as jessica was just
indicating, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema and others, because of the states they represent or their own political temperaments, they want to try and see if they can get something done across the aisle, if they can, on infrastructure, a partial package, voting rights, great. if they can't, then they have to see if they can get it done with democrats alone. and the process of failing on voting rights, on infrastructure, both efforts in which joe manchin is involved, may influence his willingness to go along with them and unify in the case of infrastructure on a reconciliation path, the special budget procedure which says you could pass a bill with only democratic votes. that's how they passed the covid relief bill. so if joe manchin's attempt to compromise on infrastructure fails, he may be more open to the argument that democrats, to act, we've got to do it alone. same on voting rights. joe manchin has said, we've got to do this with both parties, we
can't blowup the filibuster. on the other hand, if he proposals what he thinks is a good faith compromise and says i think i can get republicans and they put up a stop sign and say absolutely not, you're not going to get republicans, that may condition how joe manchin reacts when the rest of the party says, to safeguard democracy and vo voting rights, we've got to do it alone. we don't know if that's going to happen and joe manchin has great reluctance to taking that step, but the white house has no other option to pursue the potential path. >> i don't think joe manchin has cracked the door open on that option. we'll see. thank you both, appreciate it. some lawmakers are optimistic that new legislation establishing juneteenth as a national holiday could pave a new path forward. we will speak with an organizer pushing for lasting, meaningful reform ahead.
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in texas finally learned they had been freed more than two years after president lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation. >> i've only been president for several months, but i think this will go down, for me, as one of the greatest honors i will have had as president. >> let's talk about this. abby phillips, senior cnn political analyst and the host of inside politics sunday is with me, and the co-founder of the voting rights organization, black voters matter. both of you ladies, thank you for being with me. we were talking about your big smiles in the commercial break because it's a big day for the country. abby, the first federal national holiday since martin luther king day was established in 1983, you had president biden saying this is a powerful day for all americans to learn from our history. how significant is this moment? >> yeah, i think it's particularly significant considering how polarized this country is and has been over the
last several years. this is, obviously, not the be all and end all of racial justice in the united states. however, i do think the juneteenth is about celebrating what this country can be about, which is about moving toward its full promise of equality for everyone. and so marking the fact that independence day, you know, to quote frederick douglas, what is independence day to a slave was nothing to black people for so long. juneteenth is that independence day for black americans, particularly in the south, and it's important to recognize the disparate celebration of freedom in this country, what that was for so long, and the fact that now, truly, black americans can say that they are free. that is progress. that's what america is supposed to be about. >> and the fight, though, continues, as abby just said,
for what real true equality is and that has been so much of your fight. and you're kicking off this freedom ride for voting rights tomorrow. you've talked about, you know, this is not just about the fight we have now, but the fight we have going forward, to transform this nation, in your words, for the people that built it. what is your goal? >> absolutely. juneteenth, primarily, we want to honor the legacy of those that literally found the way to celebrate their own liberation and find a way to connect in our communities. so we are watching the freedom ride for voting rights, because right now we know that there is an assault on voting rights all across this country. in 47 states we're seeing voter suppression legislation and now we have a real opportunity before the people act and the advancement act will address that. if we are serious about the celebration of juneteenth and we're serious about this is a space around where all people
are liberated and have freedom, then we have to be able to make sure we're protecting voting rights. so now i am currently on the bus traveling and we're going to a march today with eight of the original freedom riders that will get to talk to them, hear their stories and they're going to bless our freedom ride as we set off tomorrow. >> you're on the bus now. that's why the shot is going up and down. that explains a lot to me. >> abby, you had sheila jackson-lee, congresswoman yesterday, saying the passage of this bill shows bipartisan can work and we can make progress. not to diminish that, there are still more than a dozen, we have them here, house republicans, who voted against this, because they said it divides our nation further was some of the reasoning. do you share the optimism of congresswoman lee? >> i think that the majority of people in this country, in washington, are reasonable people who understand american
history, notwithstanding the 14 members who seem to want to just ignore the plain facts that are in front of us, which is that, first of all, black people were enslaved for a long time in this country, and were not free, and did not celebrate july 4th as independence day because they were enslaved. and so it's just simply a fact that this is a different moment for black americans, that they've had a different experience, and just acknowledging that fact doesn't make it devivisive. it's just acknowledging the truth and acknowledging history. and a lot of people don't want to do that. but, look, there are political reasons for them making the connection between, you know, juneteenth and critical race theory, obviously. this is about trying to score points with the base. it's not about facts and it's not about history. >> let me show everyone something beautiful, and this is
opal lee. if you're not familiar with her, our viewers, she was there yesterday at the signing. you see president biden with her. at the age of 89, in 2016, she walked from her home in ft. worth, texas, to washington, d.c., in order to try to get this to happen, to turn juneteenth into a national holiday. listen to what she told our chris cuomo last night. >> it's not a black thing. it's not a texas thing. none of us are free until we're all free, and we're not free yet. there are so many disparities. >> and latasha, that speaks to the work that is ahead. >> absolutely, as she said, until all of us are free, none of us are free. and part of that is being able to use your voting rights and use your agency to determine who governs and under what
conditions you're governed by. so miss opal is right, we have to literally understand that the america that has missed out and the constitution has yet to be realized, it's aspirational, and we shall not rest. >> can you leave us with a song of hope that you serenaded me with on the commercial? >> ♪ the day i started to fight ♪ ♪ keep your eyes on the prize and hold on ♪ . we've got to keep our eyes on the prize and hold on and people can join us on the freedom ride this week. we're so excited. happy juneteenth, y'all! >> thank you. how can we top that, abby? thank you, both. l abby, look forward to your show. we'll see you then. >> thanks, poppy. >> thank you, both.
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the florida republican party is facing intense backlash for a tweet that attempted to brand a democratic gubernatorial candidate as anti-semitic. according to politico, the tweet, which has since been deleted, read this way, quote, while governor ron desantis works on policies and legislation in support of jewish communities, pelosi calls an anti-semitic charlie crist a leader and won't do anything to defend florida's jewish community. that included video of house speaker nancy pelosi saying she clarified her comments when she
was slammed for language critics say equates israel and the taliban and hamas, criticized by many of other own fellow democrats. they responded saying charlie crist is not anti-semitic. i find this disgusting, it's a flat-out lie. that's defending someone she's running against. the florida republican party has since claimed the tweet was a typo. the spokesperson tells politico was a total mistake, human error. let's talk about this with florida gubernatorial candidate nicky freed which serves as commissioner. thank you for being here. good morning. >> good morning. >> it's complicated, hopefully people followed that. but it matters because words matter. they always matter, even if they are in deleted tweets. how do you respond to the florida gop saying it was a mistake and a typo? >> the florida republican party,
what they did was admissible, attacking my opponent as anti-semitic and calling it a typo, not taking responsibility. and words have consequences. and what the republican party has done, not just here in the state of florida, but across the country, is using the jewish community as almost a ping-pong ball, and using it as a political tool to divide us. and all that is doing is actually increasing the anti-semitism across our entire country. we need to take responsibility and ownership that what we put out was a flat-out lie to spread misinformation and divide not only democrats, but our state and fuel the hatred we've seen the last four years. >> big picture, this follows last month's marjorie taylor greene comparing mask mandates to the holocaust. now you have this. i just wonder, if you think about florida, sort of a microcosm for what is happening more broadly across the country,
what your reaction is as a jewish woman. >> yeah, you know, as somebody who has been to israel on numerous times, spent an entire summer there, i have been to the concentration camps to bear witness to what happened during the holocaust, and to use the holocaust in comparison to wearing masks only shows the insensitivity and almost to increase the hatred that is across our entire country and our state. and using it to divide the jewish population. look, it's not just on the right side. what this is doing is also fueling hatred on both sides. so we all have to take ownership, de-escalate the hatred and understand that the purposes of people like me being here, the first jewish cabinet member in over 40 years to serve in the state of florida, when we are the third largest jewish population in the nation. we need to recognize our similarities, recognize that we have to appreciate our differences and learn from this. the only way that we are going
to overcome hatred and overcome anti-semitism is by education and not by divisive tweets like you saw from the republican party. >> let's turn to your race. you are running to be the next governor of florida. you're challenging charlie crist and others on the democrat side and you may be up against ron desantis. every type of democrat, except for you, has lost recently in the state of florida, andrew gilliam, bill nelson, you name it. you've acknowledged the party was on the defensive in florida in the last election. do florida democrats need a new formula to win statewide? >> yeah, absolutely. and that's what we're presenting. it's to follow the formula that we had in 2018. i want our state, as a jewish female from miami, the first female to be elected in the state of florida and entire southeast. we had an equation in 2018 that
we talked above partisan politics, talked about issues that concerned people across the board, whether they were democrat, republican, independent, and the people of our state don't want to see the divisiveness. they want to have a leader who is going to do something new and that's me crisscrossing our state and talking about issues that are impacting people's lives every single day. i said we've got to try something new and break the system. how many times can floridians be voting for constitutional amendments and they get to tallahassee and get dismantled by special interests for 24 straight years. we've got to try something different. >> let's move on to you and focus on you because you're the one running. you've been very critical of governor desantis' handling of the covid pandemic. listen to what he said earlier this spring. >> if you look at what's happening in south florida right
now, this place is booming. it would not be booming if it was shut down. >> the data backs it up. i mean, florida has a 4.8% unemployment rate, well below the national average, the per capita death rate from covid-19 is 27th, nowhere near the highest. do you think he deserves credit for that? >> no, i don't think he deserves credit. >> why? >> he had a hands-off approach to covid. first of all, there was a lack of transparency during the entire pandemic. he had no information that was coming out of our nursing homes, no information that was coming out of our prisons. >> he was one of the quickest governors to move to lock down the nursing homes, the opposite of what happened here in new york. >> well, the problem was he also wasn't giving information. so it made orders very confusing to the people of our state. local governments are the ones that stepped up and took leadership here. then he dismantled their power along the way. the people that really should take credit for what is
happening in our state are our local governments and businesses that also stepped up, our food stores that made sure that there was social distancing, the restaurants that made sure that they had qr codes. it was private businesses and local governments that stepped up. ron, the entire time, not only was not empathetic toward the people of our state but was very confusing on the way he was leading our state. >> okay, i hear your points on the messaging. i'm just asking you, commissioner, since you're running to be governor of florida, about the hard data while ron desantis was, and remains governor, and you can't argue that the unemployment rate in florida right now is half what it is in new york and california, and it is 27th on the list when you look at covid deaths. my question is, all your criticism of him saying he didn't shut down soon enough, calling for mask mandates statewide, looking at the data, did he have it right and did you have it wrong? >> no, and i go back to what the local governments did. the governor didn't do a mask
mandate, the local governments did. that is what slowed down the spread of the virus, down in south florida and orlando and tampa and our big cities. that was what slowed down the virus, because those leaders stood up and made decisions. and then when the governor lost control of the narrative, he then took away the power from our local government. and so to give the governor credit and to re-invent the history of this issue is not appropriate. sure, we are doing better now. but that is because of our local governments. he chose which organization, which industries to open up, at what times, made it very confusing. it was the local governments and businesses that stepped up to the plate. >> commissioner, let me ask you one final question. we'll have you back. i wish we had a lot more time. let me ask you this. i thought it was interesting, i was watching an interview you did recently when you launched your campaign, actually, you said this in the announcement, and you said it won't be easy. what do you think your greatest weakness is? >> you know, i think my greatest weakness is the fact that right
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flee in 2020, the highest number since world war ii. explain why you call -- >> good morning, poppy. >> -- what's going on now a triple threat. >> it's a triple threat because last year has been tough for everyone because of covid. it's been brutal for people whose lives are uprooted by conflict and disaster. the conflict is driving people from their homes, the climate crisis is adding to the forces that are creating this displacement crisis, more than 1% of the world's population homeless because of conflict and disaster. and then covid has added to the numbers. it's added to the misery, and so we've seen a 40% rise in the amount of people caught up in humanitarian crisis, 235 million in total. so the refugee numbers that have been published by the u.n. are a reminder that beneath the surface, the structural factors
that are driving human misery around the world, even before covid, remain very strong, and the increase in the number, 2.9 million more refugees were displaced in 2019, shows how urgent it is that diplomacy and humanitarian aid gets taken to a new level. >> does the irc have a handle on or assessment of how many or how few of these refugees have access to vaccination from covid? >> yes, the committee is a global humanitarian charity founded here in new york by albert einstein between the wars and we're now working in 35 to 40 countries. and the simple truth is that the race between vaccines and variants is being won in rich countries like the u.s. and in europe, and it's being lost in the poorer countries where we work. essentially 1% of the population are getting vaccinations in the poorer parts of the world, africa and elsewhere, and when it comes to health workers, the numbers aren't that much better. and so we need the
redistribution of excess vaccines that president biden announced last week, but we need two other things, production of vaccines in these poorer countries in quantities that are sufficient, 11 billion vaccines are needed in total, but just to finish the point, we need to distribute the vaccines within these countries. we need the chains to get the vaccines into arms. >> it's a very good point. just vaccine enough is not everything. before you go, on that exact point, imf chief told me this week that even the billion vaccine dose commitment made by the united states and rich western nations to poorer countries isn't enough, that it needs to be much higher. >> absolutely. >> you agree with her? >> yeah, the numbers are simple. there's 7 or 8 billion people in the world. they need, more or less, two vaccines each. so if there's 5 billion adults, you can see that 1 billion vaccines doesn't get you close enough to the kind of global
universal coverage that's necessary. the international monetary fund, they've said the world could, using excess vaccines, reach 40% of the global adult population this year. but at the moment we haven't got the surge of redistribution and distribution that's necessary to make that happen, both in the interest of people in poor countries, and frankly, in our interest as well. >> david milliband, president and ceo of the international rescue committee, thank you for being here. but really thank you for the work the irc does every day that many of us don't see. >> thank you very much, poppy. >> and thanks to all of you for joining me today, for joining jim and myself all week. have a good, safe weekend, and we will see you on monday. "at this hour" with kate bolduan is next. age before beauty? why not both? visibly diminish wrinkled skin in...
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