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it shows officers being taunted and physically attacked. >>. [ yelling ] >> >> it's important to know this footage was released after cnn and other outlets requested the case. it's being used in the case against thomas webster, who has pleaded not guilty to all charges. another nexti stalking, screaming, punching another capitol officer. and then this scene, a wave pushing their way through a tunnel, literally crushing the officers' loon of defense there. you just saw the vitriol with your own eyes, yet some republican lawmakers would have you believe the compact opposite, casting attack as peaceful, blaming antifa or the fbi. marshall, a rally outside the
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justice department happened earlier today. they attempted to completely rewrite the history of january 6th again. they can't seem -- >> they are digging deeper and deeper into shall conspiracy, jim. a pretty small rally earlier today outside the justice department. the higher was congressman paul gosar. you have mentioned him plenty of times on this show. he's leading with the disinformation, the laws, the false flag theories about january 6th. i want to play a short clip what he said about ashley babbitt. of course, she is the pro-trump rioters who was fatally shot that day by a police officer inside the capitol. listen to what he said. >> they don't want us to know the truth about ashley's death, but we do. release the video. release the investigative report. give ashley the dignity she deserves. give congress the self-respect
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and stop covering up the murder. he's actually right about one thing. the authorities could be more transparent about this whole situation. they haven't released the officer who fired the shot, right? but he didn't tell the full story. ashley babbitt tragically was killed while she was breaking into the speaker's lobby, right outside the house chamber, while lawmakers were evacuating. the officer who pulled the trigger was the only guy between the rioters and ms. babbitt, and the lawmakers on the other side. maybe congressman g congressman think -- some of them said hang mike pence. some said we want to shoot nancy pelosi in the brain. lieutenants to what scott fairland said after he shortly picked up a baton on the ground. >> we're patriots too!
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we fuckin' disarm them and then we tomorrow the fucking capitol. >> he's heading into the budge, clearly that poses a threat. many had makeshift weapons. we're giving you the truth. >> it makes you uncomfortable to see that video and listen to that language, but when you have people trying to create this ultimate reality on january 6th to try to explain what happened to ashley babbitt and some of the other rioters, it's important to show all of this raw footage in all of its terrible just awfulness. i mean, there's just for other way away it. marshall, when you were talking to some of the people at that rally, if you want to call it that, outside the justice department earlier today, did they seem to cup to grips? is this new video helping them to understand what happened on january 6th, that they know this
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was an attack they pro-trump insurrectionists carried out? >> there were a few dozen people there. you could hear people shouting out from the crowd. they said that these were patriots. they said that they thought that some of these people did nothing wrong. so, jim, i think they're kind of drinking the kool-aid. >> it sure sounds like it, but we're going to continue to show these videos. more are coming, i assume. thank you to you, marshall cohen, and your colleagues bringing it to light. congressman gosar is not the only rep trying to rewrite the insurrection. and brian todd has more. >> reporter: some conspiracy theorists are going to town, circulating a narrative that the fbi orchestrated the assault. >> real ly reaching into
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disinformation sources to undermine -- plant a false flag and distract from the real actors who were responsible for the insurrection, is really quite a stretch. >> reporter: it started with an article published by revolver news, a right-wing website it was a weave of inaccurate -- the crux of the theory? that indictments against some rioters accused of planning the attacks including references to unindicted co-conspirators, who the article claims could be undercover fbi agents. as newy and untrue the theory is, it's gone viral, primary because it was promoted by tucker carlson on his show on
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tuesday. >> fbi -- according to government documents. >> reporter: and some republican lawmakers have gotten in on the act. >> we don't like to see government agents stirring up trouble. this is not only third-world stuff, but this is like putin kind of activity. >> reporter: representatives marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz called for an investigation, gaetz sending a letter to the fbi, and one entered the argument into the congressional report this week. >> again, there is no evidence that anonymous co-conspirators names in the january 6th indictments worked for the fbi, even though some might have cooperated with the bureau afterwards. >> an fbi act or confidential informant cannot be an
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unindicted co-conspirator. the way they have -- on the contrary, they are trying to foil the unlawful purpose. >> still, monitors of extremi groups are worried about the potential for violence this false theory could incite month those who buy do it. brian todd, cnn, washington. i want to bring in cnn's chief media correspondent and anchor of "reliable sources" and phil mudd, also a former cia counter-terrorism -- i want to start with us first. they're just nutty, and getting stranger and louder by the day, and people like tucker carlson echoing them to millions of people tell, i bryant, why is
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not so dangerous and irresponsible. >> these ideas move from fringe web sites to fox news in a matter of hours. no longer do ideas trickle out on the dark corners of the internet and take months or years. now they hit the mainstream right away. this was an inside job conspiracy theory, with absolutely no basis. i think what it does is that it softens the ground for choose your own reality, where if you're a tucker fan, can you choose your own real yesterday, as scholar jay rosen said, if you want to believe it was antifa that attacked a capitol, you can believe that, you can find a source to tell you that. ultimately this is a failure of fox news as a news organization. he should back it up with the newsroom.
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the newsroom should research it, find the proof. of course they're not doing that, the proof is not out there. in a real news organization, it would be backed up by evidence, documents, none of that is happening, which is a failure by fox as an organization, jim. >> right, not just fox news -- but i hate to say there's nice people who work at fox television, but it seems like an overall corporate failure to allow this irresponsible, dangerous bullshit -- i hate to use that word, i'm old school, but it's crazy nonsense. i want to get your reaction to this. people are trying to blame the fbi for what happened on january 6th, and, you know, it makes you think you're just losing your mind when you watch this stuff. you're looking at this new video put out by the justice department, phil, i don't see any antifa. so i just wonder, how is it that
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people are -- how are they processing this video and thinking it's somebody else? >> leadership. statistic simple question is leadership. you remember after 9/11 there's a lot of anti-muslim and anti-immigrant sentiment. it was a republican leader george bush that kept a lid on it. don't believe this stuff, we're americans, that's part of the fabric of america. that's immigration. remember mccain versus president obama, all this stuff about president obama as being a kenyan, a closet muslim. the republican party said we don't this conspiracy stuff. in a lot of ways the republican party has flipped, and to ensure they win the base, conspiracies that would have died in the past are kept alive. leadership counts. if leadership persists with the message, people are going to believe it, jim. >> brian, marjorie taylor greene
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pushed this conspiracy theory on twitter. she said we need names and answers about the operatives that are involved in organizing and carrying out the capitol riot. this is a sitting congress democrat woman pushing these dangerous lice. she pushes lies about the holocaust, and now she's moved on to the other crazy lies. at what point does twitter take her off the platform? >> that's a very interesting spot for twitter, because this is the kind of thing that is beyond fact checking in a way. my 4-year-old daughter, when i put her to sleep at night, if she claims i can there's a monster under the bed, we can shane a flash light. but this is is like a ghost in the closet. there's no way to debunk that -- phil knows better than i --
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years from now we will know someday if there happened to be a sing the government contact in one of these militia group that happened to be involved in some way. it's just, you know, tucker will hold on to anything to try to basically saying to his audience prove me wrong. prove me wrong. it's a ghost in the closet. no amount of night will disprove him or disprove his theory. so we're in a world beyond fact checking. that is where the worst conspiracies thrive. >> it's just so awful, reuben gallego tweeted this -- it's prove that some are being treated lie -- he put -- to make it sfwoo a club. gosar and biggs were the first to leave. representative clyde was screaming like a banshee. you square that with michael
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fanone, who described a situation he had with the congressman clyde, who described some of his nextists as tourist, let's listen. >> i greeted him, extended my hand, stared at me, refused to shake my hand. i introduced myself. i said my name is officer michael fanone, and i fought to defend the capitol on january 6th. i explained some of the injuries that i suffered as a result of that. he just stared at me, turned away. >> this is so weird, phil, from the back the blue crowd, is this -- is this what it has come to? republicans can't even be seen with someone who rinked their lives protecting them? is that what we're talking about here? >> you hit somebody i've been pondering a couple years. the republican party used to be
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we're in national security, defense spending, which was obviously high against president trump. now we're into saying all these people are trustworthy. you're going to persuade the american people that they can't trust people like me, and that's not good. >> when i watch that video, brian, i cannot understand how that happened in the united states of america. each new video that comes out, and for all the false flag people, there are more videos coming out. and as they come outs es -- this is conspiracies are going to look more and more ridiculous. >> ultimately i think there's so much shame and embarrassment at least among some of summer on the right, they tend to come up with excuses, alternate tiff narratives about the riot, but this version of this after 9/11, this inside jock ske stuff, it
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not live on fox news or msnbc. that's what's changed in the united states, the mainstreaming of conspiracy thinking. and to your point, cnn and other networks are out there trying to get more videos. fox news is not a part of the coalition, neither is newsmax. they don't seem interested in digging deeper. i'll have a cnn tornado tomorrow on "reliable sources" to get into more of that. they say they fear for their lives. some revealing that they've even been threatened with physical violence. what is this dangerous job? working at american polling sites. that's another big part of this. that's next. you're live in the "cnn newsroom."
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is it a general feeling s. specification threatening things that have happened? what did you find? >> i agree, it's heartbreaking, really. these very widespread. to hear of things that election workers and officials have gone through around the country. it's easy to forget, but these officials and these workers ran our elections during a pandemic. there was no vaccine. they really put their lives at risk. in fact a number of them got covid to ensure to count our votes. some even died. to see what they have gone through in the weeks leading up to the election and frankly until now, the threats against themselves and their families, in some ways fleeing their
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homes, it is a direct threat to our democracy. >> some of these nice election workers are very wonderful senior citizens, elderly people who are doing this in their retired. there's always going to be people who are angry that an election did not go their way, but is there a different tenor to that anger now, would you say in this post-trump era, this trumpism era? >> no question. this is on a whole other level, and, it's really part of a larger assault on democracy. it wouldn't be if it is what it is now if it weren't for the big lie, if people weren't being fed disinformation and being told somebody is to blame for their candidate losing, and that target has been directly put on the backs of election officials.
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it's not just come from former president trump. frankly, it's come from a lot of these new bills being introduced around the country that criminalize actions that election officials may take for technical infractions. it's taking their power away and their ability to help voters, so there's really a clear message, unfortunately, that's getting through to a certain segment of the public that election officials are to blame for election results, which really all they're trying to do is make sure that americans can vote and that they're counting the vote fairly. >> i want you to hear from a ridge administration and election official in the state of georgia. he was on cnn this week. he's he's genuinely afraid to the physical safety of the people who work in his office. let's listen. >> we have started receiving calls over the last two weeks. it's like november is starting up all over again with the
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number of calls we are getting earlier this week somebody said they were going to come down here and use his second amendment rights on everyone in the office. it's not letting up. >> what are you proposing, lawrence, to address this? what has to happen so these election workers feel safe? do we need to have cops at these election sites? >> look, one of the biggest things we can do is start prosecuting the people who are making these threats. we're forcing officials in some cases to flee their homes, so treating this more seriously, having the department of justice create a national task force, where they were focused on this, and they prioritize and give resources to state and local law enforcement to make sure those people are prosecuted, that's a big thing to do. we also have to start pushing back against the disinformation,
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and the best way to do that is promote accurate information about elections. election officials are probably the best source for accurate election information about the elections they are running, so social media companies should be doing more to promote posts, give election officials free advertising. i do think one of the best way to say combat disinformation is with truthful information. there's a lot more we can be doing on that front. >> absolutely. you're absolutely right about that. lawrence norden, unfortunately we have to talk about this in this day and age, but we're glad to have you here for your insights. >> thanks, jim. take a look at what's happening in the south, suspected tornado striking alabama, temperatures out west soaring past 120 degrees. a live look is next. rcedes-benz has patented thousands of safety innovations. crash-tested so many cars we've stopped counting. and built our most punishing test facility yet,
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we have brand-new video out of alabama, possible tornado damage. this was just unbelievable footage coming in. we're being told it's possible tornado damage, but it sure looks like it. of course we'll be following these developments to see if it can be designated an actual tornado. cnn meteorologist gene norman joins me now. when you look at this video, just incredible stuff. show us where people are seeing the worst of these extreme weather systems. it looks really bad, but you're seeing the excessive heat in the
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western part of the country as well. >> exactly right, jim. heat in the west, flooding in the south and even another threat in the midwest. we are looking at over 30 million people under heat advisories for like the fifth or sixth dana row. vegas, phoenix, down in tucson, in fact vegas at 110 right now, that's the sixth dana rout. the drumbeat of heat will continue for the next couple days, and the heat will start to spread boo the pacific northwest by the time we get to the early part of monday. we should see at least two den more records even in places like oregon and washington. again, we're talking about temperatures 10 to 15 degrees above normal in places like vegas, bakersfield and sacramento. plus the drout, which would compound things and add to the fire risk out in the west.
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let's talk about what you were talking about earlier, the extreme weather because of a tropical storm right now between the mississippi and alabama border. it's still bringing a lot of rain and that's the big threat. rain and also isolated severe storms. we've had records of tornadoes in sections of georgia, as well as the florida panhandle, but also a lot of heavy rain. that severe weather threat in terms of tornadoes will continue at least until 8:00 tonight, and they may extend that. also, heavy rain, an additional 4 to 6 inches is possible, which stretch all the way from the panhp piedmont into the panhandle. it would reintensify by early monday, thankfully moving away from the u.s., but notice the west-to-east move, that's due to a sagging cold front, which is
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you u.s. is seeing a dramatic uptick in shootings. it seems like no state in that safe. in anchorage, alaska, there were people wounded, and this is days after a disturbing shooting in new york. broad daylight, shots whizzing around, nearly hitting two children, a 5-year-old boy and 10-year-old girl. the man who was shot is now in
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stable condition. overnight in minneapolis, another shooting left five people wounded, and none of the injuries there, officials say, are life-threatening. in atlanta, the aflund buckhead neighborhood is -- and cnn's natasha chen joins me from -- so sorry to hear this about atlanta, natasha, what are you learning about this situation? >> yeah, jim, the talk of buckhead seceding has been happening for years, but recently there's been so much momentum. the people who oppose have formed a new group. first the state legislature would have to approve it, send a referendum to voters. none of that can start happening until next year, but if you ask the people there this weekend how they feel, they'll point to the recent crime, saying they're
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giving this idea some real thought. the city of atlanta, like many cities, is seeing an uptick, leaving residents wondering why. >> at the end of the day, people are in fear. >> reporter: and now some people in buckhead think they have the answer -- breaking up with the city altogether. this is hardly a new idea, but it's caught steam in recent weeks. the latest incident, two teens allegedly shot a security guard in an attempt to break into an apple store last weekend. >> i really support this whole idea of people starting to stand up and say, no, no, we have to fight for you're homes here. >> reporter: the homes account for only about 20% of the city's residents, but provide about 40% of the city's tax base. >> i think it will be good have control over our own roads, other police force.
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i think it would be great to see our tax dollars staying local and being used here. >> we have talked to all of our neighbors. they're all fed up. >> reporter: bill white's group is gaining funding and traction, as it calls for citihood, with leadership stronger than what white has seen with atlanta mayor lance bottoms. >> reporter: why now elect a new mayor? >> that would make sense to work with the new mayor, the clinical definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting a different result. >> reporter: no one disagrees there's a real problem, but there's a rift on how to fix it. it is said a secession would set a bad press didn't. >> this is 1861 all over again in the city of atlanta. >> reporter: there were racial undercurrents. atlanta is about 40% white,
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while the buckhead neighborhood is about 77% white. >> i think ultimately the bigger picture was that moving these people away, moving this big section of the city away from the city of atlanta would just be a devastating impact. >> reporter: a financial impact that would bring uncertainty to the whole area, according to the man leading the campaign to keep buckhead in atlanta. >> it's just a lot of little details that have to be worked out. >> reporter: ed lindsey, a republican who represented buck did not head for a decked kay, in the georgia legislature, uss without specifics, and what to do with thousands of children in beckhead attending atlanta public schools, the better way, he says is electing new atlanta leaders. >> it's not a matter of simply carving things up. it's a matter of folks coming together and demanding better from our local elected officials.
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>> reporter: bill white said he would negotiate for the children to stay in the existing school system, just one of the exampleses of things that could bet complicated here, as the opposition group reminded us it's more difficult to break off from an existing city versus creating a new one out of an unincorporated area like out georgia cities have done in the recent past. >> thank you so much, natasha. the fight over teaching critical race theory in schools. >> just because i do not want critical race theory that the to my children? school does not mean that i am a racist, damn it.
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critical race theory is the latest lightning rod. those opposed say it's a threat to america's way of life. randi kaye travels to missouri to take a closer look. >> just because i do not want critical race theory taught to my children in school does not mean that i'm a racist, damn it. >> reporter: a heated community forum outside st. louis, missouri, where the rockwood school district has become a flash point in the national debate about critical race theory. these moms were preparing to protest at the district school board meeting.
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>> sort of wave it around. >> okay. >> reporter: fighting for a more diverse lesson plan where their children go to school. >> the children want to learn all kinds of curriculum, all right? is there implicit bias? is there racism? absolutely. >> to have my daughter say i want blue eyes, kurty, long blond hair and light skin like her teacher, let's start presenting our children with diverse curriculum. >> people who were educated years and decades ago, they got a verse of history that wasn't exactly right. that was whitewhat should. now we're starting to reconcile with in a. >> reporter: critical race theory indicates that much of the policies are infused. the district says it doesn't teach critical race theory, but a curriculum rooted in diversity, equity and including for years, but this spring, the
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phrase became a lightning rod, and some parents began accusing the district of maxist ideology and liberal propaganda. now lessons many hoped would bring the community together have created a chasm. >> a 5-year-old is not responsible for the 17th-generation greatgrandpa's action even if it was in their lynnage. >> reporter: but what's wrong with them learning about it? >> sure, they can learn about it, without making them think something was wrong with them about how the his dorsey of the united states was formulated. >> reporter: you say some children are made to feel guilty? >> correct. >> reporter: for things they didn't do? >> correct. >> reporter: terry harris is director of student services for rockwood school district. they're making us feel guilty, white shaming us. >> in our district we're not
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white shaming, not anyone feel bad about being white or calling anyone a racist. we have diverse students in the rockwood school district that show up every single day, students who desire to see themselves reflected in the curriculum. >> reporter: that includes lessons about slavery, but also about a black astronaut, and the african-american invector of the traffic signal. >> for children of school ages those are conversations that can be had at a later dade. >> a district and proponents of this are saying they're not propagandizing, just teaching, just asking them to think, not telling them what to think. >> i understand. if that's what they were actually doing, they wouldn't need to find a need to cover it up. >> reporter: the so-called cover-up is a problem. the controversy seems to have picked up steam during the
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pandemic, when children were kept home and parents had a closer look at lesson plans. this leak e-mailed advised teachers to not making everything visible about the race-based lesson plans on the platform parents can view. the e-mail also suggested avoiding trigger words like privilege and democratic. the district told us that e-mail does not reflect the mission, vision and value of the district adding rockwood encouraging transparency. >> the history is white people have done things not great in the history of the united states. we also have lots of great things. what i advocate for is just telling the truth. >> they are teaching divisive rhetoric to children that are too young for that type of understanding and psychology. >> reporter: but those protesting saying ignoring the hits torrie and what they cause
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