told. cnn films lady boss, the jackie collins story, airs sunday at 9:00 p.m. on cnn. and that's it for us today. thank you for joining "inside politics". join us back here on sunday for "inside politics sunday". i'll talk with the round table about the politics of the week. erica hill and chris cuomo pick up the breaking news right now. >> we're watching the rescue efforts in realtime in south florida. and the situation is very hard. and it is right now in a moment of even greater difficulty. as you can kind of see over my left shoulder, that haze is fire. they've been dealing with rolling pocket fires. why? because an entire building collapsed and the infrastructure along with it and everything in it. that means every kind of

chemical in every unit. you know, dozens of units involved. cars, of course, power lines. fuel lines. water informal everything that is feeding one another in a cycle of incendiary incidents. you're seeing a fire that popped out of a low floor. it starts to burn in color. that means that's the fire actively eating through what the fuel is. eventually it starts to turn more white which is proof the suppression efforts are gaining ground. that is of the utmost importance. why? because fire will kill who is still inside and alive, and it can hurt and kill the people who are trying to get in to do search and rescue. they have to deal with it. in fact, they had a hose on this building all night long. trying to deal with fire. one of the reasons that you see all the water in the basement earlier today. now, work in the basement has been slowed, and they're trying to approach through different avenues of opportunity to get penetration into this building.

why? because the water is rising. it's a high water table here. this is south florida right on the beach. and it's dangerous. and it's not creating opportunities. the rain has been a huge factor here while it does cool it off for a second, the humidity is south florida in the summer. it's humid. but it also is compacting the pile and creating weight. it's creating shifting. that's creating peril, danger, for the people doing what you're seeing right now. now, this is not in realtime, but this is the real deal. they're not just picking up buckets and going by hand. this isn't some kind of minuscule effort. they're looking for avenues of opportunity. are there tunnels? are there voids? is there a hard enough piece of that pile from the use it as a platform to bring in harder and heavier equipment? that's what's happening. there are over 130 men and women on that pile doing the best, and they've been in the worst situations. that said, we've never seen anything like this in america. a big tower collapsing under its

own weight. this wasn't oklahoma city or incendiary device. there's no proof of that. it wasn't terrorism. there's no proof of that. how did this happen? this building was not special. there are a lot of buildings like this on that road? is there something they need to know about, or was this something they have to figure out? they're not doing that in earnest right now. nay have to deal with search and rescue, but that question hangs heavy on a community that is literally living a shared agony of the unknown. i'm joined, of course, by dr. sanjay gupta, talking to the people who stand by waiting to help people, and the waiting continues. >> it does. and so many of the people who are part of the search and rescue mission have different skill sets. they know how to break and breach like you were describing but also to shore things up. because the problem is you don't have been these voids always that are natural. you find something, you got to

maintain it. that's the shoring up process. talking to trauma surgeons standing by, because as we talked about before, these are some of the most intricate rescues of all. it's not as simple as just simply lifting rubble off somebody. understand what's going to happen to their body as soon as you do that. >> explain that. common sense tells you they're trapped. take the heavy stuff off and they're good? >> if it's quick, good. if they've been trapped for a certain amount of time, there's impact on the muscle. it releases a substance that can be toxic to the body. right now it's trapped in the area along with the tissue and the muscle. as soon as you lift that up, it can go into the rest of the body and can be devastating. people can go into shock and it can be a critical situation. those are two things they rely on. that's why the trauma surgeons are here. sometimes, this has not happened yet, but they stand by to potentially have to do an amputation.

that would be the safest in some situations. or sometimes they'll put in an i.v., give fluids to flush it out before they do the rescue. there's no absolute sort of formula to this. but these guys, as you point out, we saw them at work in haiti. the search and rescue folks, the trauma folks, many were there. they go into miami. they know how to do this, but they haven't had a lot to do. there have been four people who have died. one of those four did go to the hospital first. subsequently died sadly and was take ton the morgue. there have been rescued but not requiring that level of care at this point. >> so search and rescue, as i understand it is a function of two things. one is where are the opportunities for them over time, and two, what is the risk to them over time? and that is part of the balance also, especially with this fire, and this weighting down of a

pile that's shifting? >> no question. that's a significant risk talking to these guys. structural instability. we're looking at a building that's part of a building that collapsed. we already know the degree has been falling on rescuers as they're trying to do their work. water, gas, sewage, all the other things are potential problems as well. it's an unknown environment. it's really unpredictable. we keep hearing they're going inch by ench slowly for that reason. we don't know, is that a live power line? am i going to disrupt something that's going to cause a problem in another place? it's a really tragic environment. again, they've done this before. not here in this country, for the reasons you mentioned. but they've done this sort of work in places around the world. >> i appreciate you, brother. we need you in these situations to understand, and also there's a sensitivity involved. we're surrounded by men members of this community. they are scared. a lot of people of faith here.

they lived through the pandemic. there are a lot of elderly people who made it through hard times. there was so much happiness that people survived the pandemic and now this. now, something else that i'm seeing miscommunicated in terms of people's perspective. this pile is not that high in relation to the height of the tower before. true. there have been pictures you can see on the internet of the pile in relation to the pool. that is adjacent to the pile. true, it's not that high. that is feeding a misperception that it should, therefore, be easy to get into it. because it's not that high. this is not a mountain to climb. that is, again, with all sensitivity, that is a challenge, because it shows just how compacted this building was on top of itself. you understand what i'm explaining? those floors that were very high have now been condensed tightly, and the water is making it more

so. now, does that mean that it creates less of a degree of survivalability? yes. there's no reason to fake the reality. but there is still hope. otherwise they wouldn't be doing search and rescue. it's dangerous. they believe there are voids. they are hearing sounds, still, not as much as they were before, but that can mean different things also. that's the reality on the ground. but this is complex. this is a community in waiting. the agony of the unknown is the worst in situations like this. trust those who have been around it. i want to bring in a representative from here, a member of congress. you know her well, debbie washer man schultz. you're needed here. you are surrounded by constituents who have never seen anything like this. >> right. >> and they're coming out of a hard time. and they don't know the fate of people that are in a pile that is burning behind them. >> this is an unprecedented

tragedy without a comparison. i've just come from the reunification center after talking with families. this community is so close, so tight knit. there's a predominantly jewish community here. it's tight knit. all through yesterday from the time i woke up through 9:00 last night when i had been here all, most of the day, i have friends, and former staffers, who have family and friends in that building. and you know, there's 750,000 people in the congressional district. it's an everybody knows somebody kind of thing. the families are understandably frustrated and fightened and hopeful. they're wondering is why is this taking so long? they think they don't see activity. i'm trying to explain to them it's a painstaking process, as you mentioned. it's complicated by that there's still a building that's unstable

attached to it. the rubble is unstable, and we have to make sure we don't have anyone else hurt or perhaps killed. and the safety of the search and rescue team as well. >> how do you handle emotionally being in a situation where the local rabbi, there are lots of places of worship, different denominations, praying, reading the psalms, people desperate for miracles and watching the building burn, with each passing hour, they're broken by this? >> this is incredibly hard. and the faith community, all faiths have been here. this place is permeated with pastors and rabbis and so much religious help. but this is a community that's going to survive this by its own resiliency. these are communities, whether it's the hispanic community has come from third world countries that fled strife or the jewish

community with generations of resiliency, this is a community that is sticking together, going to come together, needs to lean on one another, and then all of us, i just want to stress, this is a toxic time in our country when it comes to politics. there's been no daylight from between the local, state, and federal representatives here who are all working together, we're all rowing in the same direction, and we're trying to make sure we lift this community up and can help them take the steps necessary to climb out of this. >> red and bdied the same way i this building. everybody is crushed the same way and everybody family feels the same thing. there is nothing mixed about crisis. and we're hoping that in the worst of a situation, we see the best in ourselves. but this phase will take the time it takes. and then there is a haunting question. this does not happen in america. >> no. >> and yes, we've heard every engineer say so far this will likely be a one-off that was

unpredictability, undetectable, not correlated to what was said about this building in the 40-year recertification. okay. but there's also nothing unusual about these towers related to all the other art deco and beautiful buildings up and down collins avenue and the others in south florida. people are going to want answers and be worried. >> you're echoing my thoughts yesterday. i'm waiting for the calls that we will get from constituents, what about my building? this building isn't unusual. the whole entire road is dotted up and down the beach in my district with buildings just like it. and we have resiliency issues that we have to look at. we'll have to get to the bottom of this. we have to make sure we can do everything we can to save any potential survivors first, and make sure that the remains are taken out. we have jewish families that it's important in our faith tradition that bodies are intact, and obviously that's

challenging, or that the parts are buried together. there's so many different moving parts to the tragedy. i sit on the house oversight committee. we'll need to get to the bottom of it. thankfully the president not only approved the unprecedented relief because this is a private structure. >> you've gotten everything you've asked for? >> yes. >> government has been responsive? >> unprecedented. and fema, especially, who usually doesn't -- they don't approve this kind of relief that the president has authorized for a private structure, but like we've said, this is a tragedy without precedent, and we have to make sure that there's a thick safety net under. these are communities, surf side doesn't have a big budget. they're going to have huge costs that are going to be reimbursable. families are without a home. no one is going into that building. the surrounding areas are going to need long-term housing expenses. there are going to be funeral expens to be taken care of.

all of that assistance has been approved. going forward, we need the similar body like the transportation safety board that investigates structural issues that arise here, they're going to probably get involved in this. we have to get to the bottom of this. look, i -- we all have to hope it's a one-off, but i don't know that it is. we don't know -- lots of these buildings are built the same way, over and over again, all the way through decades. >> yeah. look, i mean, there are going to be layers of this. i don't know the local resources, first responders. the word is good. the response is good. the fema men and women involved, especially the ones on the structure right now, i've been with in bad situations. >> they're remarkable. >> and they know what they're doing. >> they do. >> that's the good news. the bad news is this is going to be an emotional toll the likes of which you've never dealt with in your district. this is not a hurricane. this is not where it's unders

understandable. >> right. >> this is unfathomable coming out of a pandemic, and the pain is already palpable. and i feel for you, because they're going to be looking at you and leaning on you. >> we're going to be here. and it's good you're here now and they're going to need you. representative, we're here to help. >> thank you. >> not just to say the obvious. >> it's going to be a long haul. >> god willing we have better stories to come. >> i hope to talk to you when we do. we're going to take a break. as things change, we'll be on scene and monitor. you can stay with cnn. ♪ i wish that i knew what i know now ♪ ♪ when i was young... ♪ you need a financial plan that fits the way you want to live in retirement. a plan that can help grow and protect your money - now or in the future. with an annuity in your plan to help cover essential expenses, you'll have the freedom to live the retirement you want. this is what an annuity can do.

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we're getting updated information about what's happening in and around the search and rescue here. there are a lot of people affected by this. 159 unaccounted for. that's a countless number of families and extended family members. we just heard from the senator marco rubio's office that emergency visas are being approved for families. that's really important. the reality is here if things don't change in the near-term, you're going to have an unprecedented event here for families to process and deal with. we're hoping for good outcomes. we're hoping for any outcomes at this point. but getting families here is a priority. now, another development is that search and rescue is a specialization. all first responders know how to do it, but some are trained on it and do it much better than others. florida is unusual as a state. it has multiple search and rescue teams that train and go all over this country and the

world to do exactly what you're watching on your screen. they actually have two teams involved right now in this rotating. that is a huge benefit. meaning you could not ask for better in terms of the men and women tasked with doing through this pile. i am not saying this just as a point of information. i'm saying it from a point of personal experience. i know the men who are involved with the task force that are now in here spelling the first crew that we're in. i've seen them work. i've seen them in ugly environments. one of which was not just a hurricane or what you're used to saying but an unprecedented event in our history, that taxed first responders in a way we'd never seen before. and that was 9/11. i was there when the buildings came down. i was there waiting for people i knew who were never found. and i watched the people dig for days and weeks and many of the challenges and the lessons are being applied to this pile right

now. one of the men who was fundamental in that effort and can help us fundamentally understand what it means here and now is former commissioner of the new york fire department. commissioner, can you hear me? >> chief, i can hear you. can you hear me? all right, good. thank you. it's been a minute since we were having exactly the conversation we're going to have right now. we were together a lot after 9/11 with you helping us understand what the people in your charge were doing to try and find people and how hard it was. how do those lessons apply? but first, just what does it mean to you that since 9/11 we haven't seen anything close to this nature or scale of what we're dealing with right now?

>> all right. chief, i can't hear you, and i'm not going to waste your time. let's take a quick break and try to get the communication right with the chief. this is the best analog we have is 9/11. forget about the terror aspect and the government interface. the community, the complexity of the search, that is the only other time i've seen this. this doesn't happen in america. buildings don't fall under their own weight. this wasn't just an accident. there's going to be a reason. we don't know what it is. frankly, we haven't had time to process the factors, but tom does. we'll come back and have a conversation that counts. wes as much as you do, like this guy in a hat. that's why progressive car insurance covers your pets for up to $1,000

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we are here following the situation. now, you see people on that top loader.

what they're doing, it's an extended crane liner. they're looking. okay? there have been pockets of fire they're trying to figure out, where it's coming from and what they're doing. this situation simply put, is hard. it is hard for the first responders and hard for the people experts at the search and rescue. it's hard for a numb of reasons and it's very hard for the family, the loved ones, and the extended community members of the 159 who are unaccounted for. let alone the four we know so far who have been retrieved from the building deceased. three came out deceased. one was alive, taken to the hospital and succumbed thereafter. there are people looking with waves of disbelief. this doesn't happen in america. people live through the pandemic. they sheltered down here in florida and made it through and now this. it was over in an instant in the middle of the night. they haven't heard from people. the numbers are moving around. they're standing a block away

and watching it actively on fire. they're praying, lost, and in pain. and the first responders are acutely aware, and they're going in, they're trying to extend their shifts and do more. they're some of the best men in search and rescue men and women involved with fema. we know it is a matter of fact about florida's unusual access to search and rescue. they have multiple highly trained teams. it is hard, and it is slow. and it has been complicated by moisture, and by pressure. you had fire below they had to have a hose on all night. and that created difficulty underneath that you are watching with people standing in feet of water. you've had rain on top of a pile that was already very compressed. why? why was it so compressed? why is this pile not higher? what made the collapse so intense and made the collapse happen at all? those families matter. and these questions matter to them.

yes, they want to know who is alive and who isn't. but they want to know why they're staring at this pile in the first place. it's not a question that's just forgotten by the urgency of the moment. it matters. this doesn't happen in america. it happened, and we're going to have to know why. there's also something very erie about this. the last time we processed something like this in our country, something that was anything like this, a building collapsing under its own weight, so many joined in the agony of the unknown and standing by and watching people dig through slowly for answers that may or may not come was 9/11. and one of the men who guided us through the effort and made sure our resources were brought to bear in one of the most epic research and rescue efforts was thomas von ussen. i have not spoken to him since, but i spoke to him all the time in the aftermath about what the men were capable or able to do, what the first responders were

able to do, the men and women involved. and it's good to have you now, sir. if this is familiar, the smell down here at the scene, the odors they're anticipating, the wind is blowing on top of us now. just like back then, and many of the challenges, and the lessons apply as well. is that the truth? >> you're correct. i haven't seen an incident in the past 20 years that's so similar to what we had to deal with exempt on a small -- except on a smaller scale. >> what are the challenges in kind of satisfying the frustration? why aren't they moving faster? why can't they use the equipment and get in there and find them? what are the answers? >> well, they are answers that people don't feel better about. there are answers that people don't like to hear, and you said it earlier, and one of your other interviews. you know, there's going to be a

point where it's no longer a rescue. it's going to be a recovery. but right now these guys are doing really the best they can to continue in rescue mode. they're hoping there's somebody underneath that piece of steel you're looking at right now, and that piece of concrete is against it and somebody is getting air. they're going to pull them out alive. they're hoping. as the time goes by and becomes more compressed and heavier, and as they brought in all the heavy equipment, if they started pushing stuff around, they would kill anybody that has survived up to this point. they're going as quickly as they can, but they have to be so cautious in the process. it's not something you can really explain to people unless they've been in a situation like that. digging tunnels under that, if it was a mountain, it would be easier for them to crawl around. but it's not. it's compressed. it looks like a third of what it should be of 12 stories.

it's a really tough battle thaer in right now. >> now, the risk to people who may be alive on the inside and god willing, they are, the risk to the men and women who are trying to get to them comes back to that odor. just like this 9/11. i'm not smelling wood burning right now. we don't know what's in there. it's chemicals and the vehicles. it's compounds. it's the building materials. we've lived through this before, about this being breathed in and how toxic it can be for the men and women trying to do the best they can. explain. >> well, we've got firefighters dying today 20 years later from working on that pile for a long period of time after. most of these guys, i notice don't have masks on. some of them are in areas where they don't smell anything. there are no fumes coming out. those who are on top of anything leaking really need to mask up, because you just don't know what's in those -- in that smoke that's coming out. like you mentioned, there's

probably propane tanks in there, gasoline fumes. i don't know what kind of gas they use in the building. there's gasoline from the cars. there's so many things you don't know what you're breathing in. >> we know that the guys that the first responder, the men and women on that from the task force that's on there right now from south florida, the fema task force, too, they've pulled people out of a similar situation in haiti 72 hours later. they're clinging to that because they keep relaying that as a motivation to keep going here. but when you lay out what our best scenario is here, what could be still true for so many of the people gathered around us now watching the broadcast for why there is hope? >> well, the hope is diminishing as the time goes by, but it doesn't mean it's hopeless. it is definitely a fact you're going to find more people that

did not survive. we can hope and fight the fight as long as they can and as hard as they can, and there's hoping they will find some survivors. as the time goes by, and as the more they move that stuff, harder it is. i had memories of 9/11 with the five gallon pails. it looks like they're picking up stones, but they're looking for voids and trying to find ways to crawl in and take even more risk. when that stuff moves, that's heavy stuff. we had a situation where you couldn't -- you could get 50 strong young guys down there, you couldn't move a piece of steel. you had to bring in heavy equipment. they'll reach that point, but they don't want to get to that point without giving it the best shot they can. as the days go by, they have to bring in heavy equipment and move the steel and concrete. >> i remember you explaining the faster we move stuff, the less

chance we're going to search and rescue anybody. so there's a disconnect there. it moves faster that way, but it's a bad sign in terms of what the objective is of the activity to begin with. i wish you could be here for one reason, commissioner. not since the acuteness of the crisis, the pain, the unknown, the people who have come out in the community and how they're supporting each other, how they're holding onto each other, their sense of common purpose that sometimes can only come from pain, they're here for one another. that's going to be what gets them through this is their belief in their common cause of just how much pain there is and how fragile it is, and they're living that in realtime like we did then. thank you for helping us understand this now. god bless. >> thank you. look, all we can do is watch and wait and explain what's

happening, and again, here comes more rain. they're just bans of the storm systems that are coming through. not helpful. will it help put out the fire? no. the fire is internal to the building right now. and there is not an opening on the other side. so it's going to burn, and it's going to help compact things more and be a nuisance to the men and women doing the job. but you'll see now they're using this as a vantage point to put water on that fire and control it. this is what they've been doing. this is a multifront fight for them. from below the water levels started to get high. you have rain coming in and stuff leaking out of the building. they didn't have enough opportunity to justify the risk. they tried to come at it laterally and on top. they're having a lot of struggles, but there is no quit in who we've seen on this structure so far. we're going to take a break. we'll let the storm pass. we'll be back. if your walls could talk...

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next hour, derek chauvin will be sentenced for the murder of george floyd. today chauvin's request for a new trial was denied in fact he

was convicted on all three counts in april including second degree murder. the sight of chauvin pressing his knee for more than nine minutes ignited outrage and calls for police reform. we are outside the court. omar, what can we expect to see coming up in the next hour or so? >> when things get going about 45 minutes or so in downtown minneapolis, we'll see a number of things. mainly, we're going to hear from both the prosecution and the defense on what they feel the sentence should be for derek chauvin. to lay things out, when you look at the maximum sentencing penalties that we can see for the charges, derek chauvin's ben convicted of, the second degree murder charge carries a maximum penalty of 40 years. the thrd of 25 years with a second degree manslaughter a max of ten years, and/or a fine.

crucially, he's not going to face that type of time in a realistic fashion. he has no criminal history. that puts him more in a range of 10 to 15 years. but then you look at what the judge in this case, the judge ruled, in may. he ruled in favor of aggravating factors. things that boost the number up. he said that derek chauvin abused a position of trust and authority, acted with particular cruelty, acted in concert with three other individuals who all actively participated in the crime, and committed the offenses in the presence of children. again, these are all things that are going to factor into the sentence that comes down. prosecutors wanted to get 30 years. the defense has pushed for him to get probation and time served or at the very least something below the lower range of sentencing guidelines. we're just going to have to see. but then in the after portions of this, crucially we learned two hours ago the judge denied

chauvin's request for a new trial. the sentencing will be the closure of one major chapter. >> omar, we'll watch and follow along. thank you. the vice president at the u.s./mexico border today amid a growing migrant crisis. that's next. his room. ♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? your mother loved this park. ♪ she did. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla.

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we take you live now to vice president making remarks on this, her first trip as vice president to the border. taking you live now to the vice president, speaking during her first trip as vice president to the border. >> that belief has been reinforced throughout our day today. whether it was when i met with children or unaccompanied minors or i met with leaders who have been on the ground in el paso

for many, many years doing work that is directly about supporting and interacting with folks who are immigrating to the united states and who are crossing this border. my trip to guatemala and mexico was about addressing the root causes. the stories that i heard and the interactions that we had today reinforce the nature of those root causes, a lack of economic opportunity, very often violence, corruption, and food insecurity, and basic needs not being met, including fear of cartels and gang violence. so, the work that we have to do is the work of addressing the cause, the root causes. otherwise, we'll continue to see the effect, what is happening at the border. it is going to require, as we have been doing, a comprehensive

approach that acknowledges each piece of this. informed also by the recognition that the united states is a neighbor in the western hemisphere and not only do we have a reason to concern ourselves with the root cause issues because of what we see at the border but also because we are -- we live in this neighborhood. the western hemisphere. and like anyone living in a neighborhood, one must understand and see the effect and the relationship between fellow neighbors. so that's the work we've done. i want to, in particular, recognize secretary mayorkas. the time that we spent with the dedicated men and women of cbp really has reinforced the work that secretary mayorkas has done in terms of bringing technology, bringing resources, bringing professionalism and support to

the men and women who are on the ground doing the job every day. i commend all of them for the success that they have seen thus far. i'd call it progress. we're not exactly where we want to be yet, but we have seen extreme progress over these last few months because of his dedication and his efforts. so, with that, i want to also make the point, you know, when we have this conversation about what's happening at the border, let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about human beings. let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about stories that, as the bishop shared and many of the community folks shared, involve horrendous tales of abuse and fear and harm, not only for folks who are coming here in their home country experiencing that but along the path of their migration. and so, let's recognize with a

sense of humanity that these issues must be addressed in a way that is informed by fact and informed by reality and informed by perspective that actually is dedicated to addressing problems and fixing them in the most constructive and productive way. the president and i are absolutely committed to ensuring that our immigration system is orderly and humane, and i do believe that we are making progress in that regard. so, with that, i'm going to now introduce the secretary of the department of homeland security, ale mayorkas, to make a few comments. >> thank you very much, madam vice president, and a privilege to be -- >> the vice president just speaking there. joining us now is democratic congressman henry of texas. he's one of several lawmakers

who have encouraged the vice president to spend time at the border. he has specifically reached out, in a letter earlier this month, asking her to come this this district. i know she was in el paso today. congressman, really quickly, i just want to touch on what we heard from the vice president there. she said we can't lose sight, you need to recognize the sense of humanity and that the actions need to be informed by reality. she called for a comprehensive approach to address the cause, the root causes of immigration and also the effects. you're calling for a little bit of that too, but i know you told my colleague, kate bolduan yesterday, you haven't seen a lot of that. it's more the push from democrats and the pull from republicans. >> yes, and certainly we need to be compassionate on how we treat the immigrants that come down to the border, but at the same time, even though we're compassionate, we still have to enforce the law. the law says if somebody's not supposed to stay here, unfortunately, we have to deport them. if you have a hundred people

that ask for asylum, an immigration judge is going to deny about 88% of them and only 12% will come in. so, we could be compassionate, but at the same time, we cannot forget that we have to enforce the laws that are on our books. point. period. >> and do you feel like that is the focus of the vice president and of this administration? that twofold response? >> well, let me be very diplomatic. in talking to our men and women on the ground, and, again, i don't just go visit the border for a few hours, but i live there. even today, during the visit, i was getting some calls and texts from my border patrol friends, the men and women in blue. with all due respect, again, they don't want to have a pat on the back. they want to have the resources, the personnel, the boots on the ground, and they want to be given the power to be able to deport people if the law calls for that.

so, we want to be compassionate. we want to treat people with respect and dignity, but i emphasize, we have to enforce the law. >> we are very tight on time, sir. i know you would have liked to have seen the vice president spend some time near -- in the rio grande valley in your district. what do you think this visit achieves today? >> well, you know, i'm glad that she checked the box and went down to the border. that's good. but the epicenter is down there in the low rio grande valley. i mean, that's the bottom line. if you want to get a snapshot, go to donna, texas, and see what's happening down there. >> she has not responded to your letter that you sent. you have not heard from the administration even about this visit today to your state of texas. do you expect that will change? sorry, sir, we have to go now to the president, who is speaking. my apologies. man, how are you? >> i'm good. >> nice to see you. how are you doing? i feel silly sitting down in

front of all of you here. >> he listen signing a bill that will designate the site of the pulse nightclub shooting. >> i'm joe biden, i'm jill's husband. >> let's listen in now to the president. >> before i sign, let me start with a few words about what's going on now in florida. and you know, the people who are here who are part of what happened that night at the pulse nightclub and the scores that i just spoke to a moment ago, they're online looking at this. they understand that -- what it's like to have to wait and wonder what happened. the families -- i remember going down there to the pulse nightclub afterwards and wondering, is it my son, my daughter, my husband, someone i love? is that who got lost because they didn't know for certain initially.

and as congressman ceccilline knows, there's nothing worse than having to wait and wonder what happened. i know, val, when you were a police chief, you had to go through waiting a lot as well. and so, i just want to say, i've spoken to governor desantis, and we provided all the help that they have, they need. we sent the best people from fema down there. we're going to stay with them, with the disaster declaration we made, provide for everything from housing to, god forbid, whether there's a need for m mo moratoria for the bodies to be placed. i just want to say, and i'm sure i speak for all the members of the congress here today and all the survivors here that it's a tough, tough time. there's so many people waiting. are they alive? will they be -- what will happen? so, our heart goes out to them,

and the people of florida, i want to -- i've spoken to debbie w wasserman schultz, and i promise you the administration, the congress are doing everything to be of assistance now and after this occurs. after they decide exactly what the state of play is. but i'm glad to welcome everyone here to the adjunct to the white house here, in-person and virtually. survivors and family members, victims and the path breaking leaders like senator baldwin, just over five years ago, the pulse nightclub, a place of acceptance and joy, became a place of unspeakable pain and loss. and we'll never fully recover, but we'll remember, and we have to -- what we're goingo